J.K. Rowling and Elon Musk Named in Cyberbullying Lawsuit Filed by Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif After Olympic Win (EXCLUSIVE)


J.K. Rowling and Elon Musk have both been named in a criminal complaint filed to French authorities over alleged “acts of aggravated cyber harassment” against Algerian boxer and newl crowned Olympic champion Imane Khelif.

Nabil Boudi, the Paris-based attorney of Khelif, confirmed to Variety that both figures were mentioned in the body of the complaint, posted to the anti-online hatred center of the Paris public prosecutor’s office on Friday.

The lawsuit was filed against X, which under French law means that it was filed against unknown persons. That “ensure[s] that the ‘prosecution has all the latitude to be able to investigate against all people,” including those who may have written hateful messages under pseudonyms, said Boudi. The complaint nevertheless mentions famously controversial figures.

“J. K. Rowling and Elon Musk are named in the lawsuit, among others,” he said, adding that Donald Trump would be part of the investigation. “Trump tweeted, so whether or not he is named in our lawsuit, he will inevitably be looked into as part of the prosecution.”

Khelif — who on Saturday won the Olympic gold medal in the women’s 66 kilogram boxing competition — spent much of the 2024 Olympics in Paris at the center of a noisy and unpleasant dispute about her gender eligibility that reverberated around the world. Despite being born female and not identifying as transgender or intersex — and being backed by the International Olympic Committee, who asserted “scientifically, this is not a man fighting a woman” — Khelif faced a torrent of accusations and abuse over her gender.

Most of the attacks came via social media, particularly on X/Twitter, and the controversy was escalated when high-profile figures stepped into the fray. In one message to her 14.2 million followers, Rowling posted a picture from Khelif’s fight with Italian boxer Angela Carini, accusing the former of being a man who was “enjoying the distress of a woman he’s just punched in the head.” Musk, meanwhile, shared a post from swimmer Riley Gaines that claimed “men don’t belong in women’s sports.” The X owner co-signed the message by writing: “Absolutely.” Trump posted a message with a picture from the fight with Carina accompanied by the message: “I will keep men out of women’s sports!”

Boudi said that although the complaint mentions names, “What we’re asking is that the prosecution investigates not only these people but whoever it feels necessary. If the case goes to court, they will stand trial.”

Boudi also claimed that while the lawsuit was filed in France, “it could target personalities overseas,” pointing out that “the prosecutor’s office for combating online hate speech has the possibility to make requests for mutual legal assistance with other countries.” He added that there were agreements with the U.S. equivalent of the French office for combating online hate speech.

Logan Paul was also among those who attacked Khelif on social media, posting on X following her win against Carini: “This is the purest form of evil unfolding right before our eyes. A man was allowed to beat up a woman on a global stage, crushing her life’s dream while fighting for her deceased father. This delusion must end.”

Paul later deleted the post and admitted that he “might be guilty of spreading misinformation.”

But for Bouli, such apologies — including those that Khelif has received personally from prominent figures who tweeted derogatory comments — wouldn’t change anything regarding the investigation. “The lawsuit is filed and the facts remain,” he said.

As for X, Boudi said the complaint is aimed at the authors of social media posts and not the platforms themselves. “It’s the responsibility of lawmakers to issue sanctions to platforms, not ours,” he said. But he did note that cyber harassment cases were now being taken much more seriously by judicial authorities and that, in some cases, “there are prison sentences.”

Khelif’s coach, Pedro Diaz, told Variety that the bullying Khelif endured during her run in the Olympics “incredibly affected her” and “everyone around her.”

“The first time she fought in the Olympics, there was this crazy storm outside of the ring,” said Diaz, who runs Miami-based Mundo Boxing Gym and started training with Khelif in February 2023. “I had never seen anything so disgusting in my life,” added the coach, who has participated in the training of 21 Olympic champions prior to the Algerian boxer. Diaz said he asked Khelif to refrain from looking at social media so she “wouldn’t lose her focus on winning the gold medal.”

“She’s so smart and has such an amazing motivation,” he said, adding that her gold medal win “felt like the most rewarding victory of my career as a coach.”


https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/jk-rowling-elon-musk-imane-khelif-lawsuit-1236105185/

Why did they think they was a man?

freediver wrote on Aug 14^th, 2024 at 7:25pm:

Why did they think they was a man?

You could have simply googled it but i'll indulge you. Not that i think for a second you will watch this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNwrQmdLUyo&ab_channel=PBSNewsHour

"The pair of boxers have been in the spotlight after it was revealed that the two were banned from the 2023 World Championships due to failed gender eligibility tests administered by the International Boxing Association (IBA)."

"It is not verified that Khelif has a variation in sex traits or DSDs, according to GLAAD and interACT. "

"It is not verified if Khelif has been diagnosed with Swyer syndrome"

"The organization does not use the gender eligibility tests that the IBA utilize. Instead, the IOC went back to using passports to determine age and gender, which were the previous regulations used at prior Olympics. "

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/olympics/news/imane-khelif-condition-explained-gender-fact-check/51994b8a2e23e7b423782f7a

Just what has been verified?

freediver wrote on Aug 14^th, 2024 at 7:25pm:

Why did they think they was a man?

It has XY chromosomes = a man.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/imane-khelif-olympics-boxer-trans-debate-gender-xy-chromosome-b2594067.html

While little is known about Khelif’s medical history, the International Boxing Association’s (IBA) president had previously claimed a test had shown she had XY chromosomes [male] and therefore did not meet their eligibility criteria.



https://static.independent.co.uk/2024/08/02/00/newFile-1.jpg

freediver wrote on Aug 14^th, 2024 at 7:25pm:

Why did they think they was a man?

According to the boxing organisation that oversees her competition, she had DNA testing done that concluded she possessed male chromosomes, if I recall correctly. The IOC ignored this.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 14^th, 2024 at 9:32pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 14th, 2024 at 7:25pm: Why did they think they was a man? According to the boxing organisation that oversees her competition, she had DNA testing done that concluded she possessed male chromosomes, if I recall correctly. The IOC ignored this.

No. The IBA has been most contradictory in telling us precisely what test they are talking about. They cannot get their story straight. They are a Russian organisation who only lodged their "concerns" after the Russian contender was beaten. What's more, they have been utterly rejected by the IOC and they have been unconditionally cut adrift.

Imane was born a woman, has lived her life as a woman and passed all IOC criteria. This is nothing short of a vicious witch hunt that has been fuelled by the trans debate and all it's angry little minions.

ANd they are in a very serious sense not only messing with in a reputational sense. If she is thought to be trans in Algeria where even homosexuality is a crime, then her very life could be in danger.

You think the howling masses care? Of course not. No more than they needed actual facts to launch their viscous campaign against her.

Claims are claims - the IOC allowed --- as a woman on the basis of passport - that raises many questions for the future.  Look at Queensland 'rules' about paper ID.... typical in the deluded nutty state... the smrat state ..

I feel sorry for the poor bloke being born without a dick and raised as a girl and then finding out that on the benches he sits legs open like a man to allow the air etc... walks like a man.... features like a man... build like a man ... no tits to speak of .... no internal woman organs... is  -- going to show and tell in this lawsuit... undergo full testing ... or just rely on filing a suit?

Expecting an objective test is a neutral position.................. no sides taken here.... no bullshit swallowed...... at what point does a bloke without a dick become a woman?  Well - they don't ..... EVER ....

Why is the IOC so afraid of an objective test?  Do they WANT Michaela Tyson to box with the girls next time around?  'Ear, 'Ear ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FuhX15OXsAAEUyL.jpg

freediver wrote on Aug 14^th, 2024 at 7:25pm:

Why did they think they was a man?

No tits, no arse, raised as a girl, born with no dick, doesn't walk like a girl, sits like a bloke (as someone pointed out - NO Muslim woman would sit like that - or a non-Muslim for that matter - legs together girls) ..... arbitrary assignment of gender gone totally wrong... (heh, heh, heh).... this is as bad as the original attempt to turn a boy into a girl because of an accident.... don't marry your cousins, they say .....

Full test or no competition.... the IOC has to straighten up its act - if this person passes a proper test - all well and good... if not - outski!  They are just playing a game here - like kids and politicians - which they are in essence - they are trying to put a fast one over and see how far they can get with it.... college pranksterism at its very lowest.

Did you know that those blokes dressing up as women and demanding to be called 'ma'am' started off as a college prank using big beefy football players?  Haven't you worked that out yet?  Now it's become a disease of the mind for every borderliner ready to leap over the edge....

I identify as a Labrador in front of the fire in winter...   8-)   8-)   8-)

mothra wrote on Aug 14^th, 2024 at 11:33pm:

No more than they needed actual facts to launch their viscous (sic) campaign against her.

Even her coach admits she has chromosomal issues, not just the IBA. ::)

"Imane Khelif's Coach Admits Boxer Has 'Problem With Chromosomes' After She Won Gold at Paris Olympics 2024"

https://www.ibtimes.sg/imane-khelifs-coach-admits-boxer-has-problem-chromosomes-after-she-won-gold-paris-olympics-75644

Weren't the same bigoted posters (Hi Crappler) that are now crying about her as a female boxer, the same ones arguing not so long ago that if you were born with a vagina you are a woman, no if's or but's??

The only consistency from the bigots is that they are consistantly inconsistant.

Never proven female - DNA says not....  hah.. HAH!!  I take it then you have no concerns or objections with a full test and not just a cursory look at a passport?  Is it your daughter going up against Michaela Tyson (transpassported) next time around?  Oh, wait - let's find a mediocre male boxer..... transpassport him ....

Born without a prick is not born with a vagina.  I haven't argued any such thing... you need more than a vagina to be a woman... a lot more, down to the genetic level - but you wouldn't know, being married as you are to a transgender that you don't know about, eh?

https://media.tenor.com/TywY4EYSTZEAAAAM/ha-ha-the-simpsons.gif

this person has an xy chromosome

the y chromosome codes for increased testosterone resulting in a punching strength about 2.5 times stronger then an xx individual

lia thomas in the pool is not inflicting damage on swimmers in other lanes (not physical damage)

this xy chromosome equipped individual was belting an xx chromosome individual in the face

the fact mothra supports this is very revealing of how much she cares about violence against females

she is in fact, a supporter of violence against women

we knew this because she supports the muslim practice of removing the clitorises of 90 % of somali teenage girls

with friends like mothra, the female of the species must rely on the strong competant rational support of the noble female such as the fearless JK Rowling

what a star JK is for calling out these disgusting treachorous hateful fake feminists such as mothra  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Aug 15^th, 2024 at 3:00pm:

Never proven female - DNA says not..

https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-04-2020/QPmeD7.gif

https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/tyson-offers-to-fight-olympics-trans-boxing-winner-give-proceeds-to-battered-womens-charity/


Tyson Offers To Fight Olympics Trans Boxing Winner
& Give Proceeds To Battered Women’s Charity


Fact checked by The People's Voice Community
August 2, 2024

The women’s boxing match at the Paris Olympics has triggered international outrage and raised more questions about the fairness of letting “biological males” compete against females.

Italy’s Angela Carini faced off against Algeria’s Imani Khelif on Thursday, in the welterweight (66kg) category, but lasted only 46 seconds. Khelif was disqualified from last year’s World Championships after being deemed biologically male.

After taking two hefty punches to the face, Carini was forced to withdraw from the contest. She threw down her helmet crying “this is unjust!”

She has since received an outpouring of solidarity from critics of transgenderism around the world, who denounced Khelif as a biological man and protested the bout as unfair.

Among those who slammed the situation were a UN women’s welfare official and Italy’s Prime Minister.

Author J.K. Rowling told the International Olympic Committee (IOC): “A young female boxer has just had everything she’s worked and trained for snatched away because you allowed a male to get in the ring with her” She adding that the 2024 Olympics “will be forever tarnished by the brutal injustice done to Carini.”



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This is a very interesting case.  Assume She has XY chromosome (so it says but no one provided the actual result).   But she is born with a vagina.   And because of that, society had raised her and treated her as a female.  This case, is not a case, where some male suddenly decided to call himself a female.   So this is not a trans case.  Mind you, the nation Algeria is quite conservative, and is often described having laws that is discriminatory against trans people. 

I guess, if this is not the modern society, and or DNA testing was never invented.  Then she would be a legendary female boxer. 

I remember in high school biology they taught us about a dozen different definitions of male and female, and the challenges to each. Nothing is ever clean cut in biology.

My take on it is to go back to the purpose of having a different competition for men and women. It is not to celebrate gender diversity. It is because women are weaker and need their own separate competition, or they would rarely make it in. It would be a sadder world if the only people who got around in tights were men. The only reason we have this controversy is because people are too afraid of upsetting the gender diversity Nazis or upsetting the gender equality Nazis by acknowledging the elephant in the room - that women aren't as good at sport.

If you remember that, the solution seems obvious - any gender ambiguity should should force the participant to compete in the men's competition. If it makes you feel better, you could relabel the men's competition to the open or unrestricted competition. Then the women's competition is to be restricted to people who satisfy every available definition of female.

Even for performance enhancing drugs things are getting very tricky, because it is getting easier to make drugs that resemble very closely what occurs naturally in the body, which is highly variable.

freediver wrote on Aug 15^th, 2024 at 5:11pm:

My take on it is to go back to the purpose of having a different competition for men and women

When did they merge the men and womens boxing that they have to go back to it?

tickleandrose wrote on Aug 15^th, 2024 at 4:52pm:

This is a very interesting case.  Assume She has XY chromosome (so it says but no one provided the actual result).   But she is born with a vagina.   And because of that, society had raised her and treated her as a female.  This case, is not a case, where some male suddenly decided to call himself a female.   So this is not a trans case.  Mind you, the nation Algeria is quite conservative, and is often described having laws that is discriminatory against trans people.  I guess, if this is not the modern society, and or DNA testing was never invented.  Then she would be a legendary female boxer.

she has a Y chromosome

this is not in dispute

she has extra testosterone as  a result and can pummel the face of a female opponent

mothra gets off on this

its sick

here we have trans mma fighter fallon fox (rhonda rousey xx on the left)

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here we have foxes opponent with a fractured skull

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XY individuals should never bash XX individuals into unconsciousness

its a disgrace

John Smith wrote on Aug 15^th, 2024 at 5:47pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 15th, 2024 at 5:11pm: My take on it is to go back to the purpose of having a different competition for men and women When did they merge the men and womens boxing that they have to go back to it?

Do try to keep up John.

freediver wrote on Aug 15^th, 2024 at 5:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2024 at 5:47pm: freediver wrote on Aug 15th, 2024 at 5:11pm: My take on it is to go back to the purpose of having a different competition for men and women When did they merge the men and womens boxing that they have to go back to it? Do try to keep up John.

The way I see it, it's you struggling to keep up. You said we need to go back to the purpose for separate comps.


freediver wrote on Aug 15^th, 2024 at 5:11pm:

My take on it is to go back to the purpose of having a different competition for men and women

I hadn't realised that we moved away from separate comps. So can you explain when did they merge the male and female comps?

John Smith wrote on Aug 15^th, 2024 at 6:32pm:

You said we need to go back to the purpose for separate comps.

The purpose for separate comps was to limit damage. It was never a part of the Olympics for them to be merged, therefore there was no need to separate them. Wiser heads prevailed at the time, they could probably foresee future problems, unlike the current IOC.

The fact that you are trying to read more into the statement that was said, is telling. ;)

John Smith wrote on Aug 15^th, 2024 at 6:32pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 15th, 2024 at 5:55pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2024 at 5:47pm: freediver wrote on Aug 15th, 2024 at 5:11pm: My take on it is to go back to the purpose of having a different competition for men and women When did they merge the men and womens boxing that they have to go back to it? Do try to keep up John. The way I see it, it's you struggling to keep up. You said we need to go back to the purpose for separate comps. freediver wrote on Aug 15th, 2024 at 5:11pm: My take on it is to go back to the purpose of having a different competition for men and women I hadn't realised that we moved away from separate comps. So can you explain when did they merge the male and female comps?

The explanation for all this is simple John. You are very confused.

aquascoot wrote on Aug 15^th, 2024 at 5:48pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Aug 15th, 2024 at 4:52pm: This is a very interesting case.  Assume She has XY chromosome (so it says but no one provided the actual result).   But she is born with a vagina.   And because of that, society had raised her and treated her as a female.  This case, is not a case, where some male suddenly decided to call himself a female.   So this is not a trans case.  Mind you, the nation Algeria is quite conservative, and is often described having laws that is discriminatory against trans people.  I guess, if this is not the modern society, and or DNA testing was never invented.  Then she would be a legendary female boxer.  she has a Y chromosome this is not in dispute she has extra testosterone as  a result and can pummel the face of a female opponent mothra gets off on this its sick

Mothra gets her rocks off on victim stories but
who is the victim in this one? -

is it the poor man who wants to be a woman and gets picked on by the media or
is it the poor woman who got beaten up by a bloke pretending to be a girl?

Are they both victims?

Can Tammy Tyson sort it out?

https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/453654891_10233265475887601_8498723848420796951_n-1.jpg

freediver wrote on Aug 15^th, 2024 at 9:39pm:

The explanation for all this is simple John.

It certainly is, but if I tell what the explanation is you'll hide behind your ban buttons again.

lee wrote on Aug 15^th, 2024 at 6:42pm:

It was never a part of the Olympics for them to be merged, therefore there was no need to separate them. Wiser heads prevailed at the time, they could probably foresee future problems, unlike the current IOC.

When did the current IOC merge mens and womens boxing?
Are you and FD overdosing on the same idiocy pills?

Well - they shoved Imane the Changeling into women's competition on the basis of a passport ID only - you should easily understand what that means when idiot governments like Queensland figure that a person can just be whatever they want to be on their paperwork.

Any Queensland Queer can become a woman and beat up girls in the Olympic boxing then...  being as their mothers drove them to being queer, they'd likely love that chance... me lesbian chat-pal reckons these guys are the greatest and most violent misogynists in the world - says one broke her jaw when she was managing a lesbian club, and another crippled a friend of hers for life over being refused entry.

It's more time to re-open the asylums  and isolate them from society and insulate it from their anger and harm...

I pity the poor guy - born without a prick and forced to be a girl when that clearly doesn't suit at all .... gonna most likely need suicide watch with all that confusion .....

I wonder when there will be a lawsuit against “acts of aggravated harassment” by French Olympic organizers  of heterosexual and religious people during opening ceremony?

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2024 at 7:23am:

When did the current IOC merge mens and women's boxing?

Still trolling? There was never a merger that required them to be separated. They were distinctly and always separate. ::)


John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2024 at 7:23am:

Are you and FD overdosing on the same idiocy pills?

Nope, that is entirely your domain. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

aquascoot wrote on Aug 15^th, 2024 at 5:48pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Aug 15th, 2024 at 4:52pm: This is a very interesting case.  Assume She has XY chromosome (so it says but no one provided the actual result).   But she is born with a vagina.   And because of that, society had raised her and treated her as a female.  This case, is not a case, where some male suddenly decided to call himself a female.   So this is not a trans case.  Mind you, the nation Algeria is quite conservative, and is often described having laws that is discriminatory against trans people.  I guess, if this is not the modern society, and or DNA testing was never invented.  Then she would be a legendary female boxer.  she has a Y chromosome this is not in dispute she has extra testosterone as  a result and can pummel the face of a female opponent mothra gets off on this its sick

Some girls are born with XY.   In those cases, they would have a vagina, fallopian tube, and ovaries.   They are probably not fertile.  But. because of these, they are raised as female.  And in biblical sense, they are born with physical bodies of female.  It is only with advancement of science, that we find out that some of those girls indeed have a Y chromosome.   How do we know, if every other female athletes ever in the history of Olympics have similar conditions?  Do we then, in all fairness, subject all female athletes ever competed, even if they are completely physically female on the outside, to undergo a gene test?   And then if they tested +ve, we strip them of their gold and records? 

I don't think it would make sense to make new rules retrospective. For one thing, you have to consent to the test beforehand.

tickleandrose wrote on Aug 16^th, 2024 at 12:47pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 15th, 2024 at 5:48pm: tickleandrose wrote on Aug 15th, 2024 at 4:52pm: This is a very interesting case.  Assume She has XY chromosome (so it says but no one provided the actual result).   But she is born with a vagina.   And because of that, society had raised her and treated her as a female.  This case, is not a case, where some male suddenly decided to call himself a female.   So this is not a trans case.  Mind you, the nation Algeria is quite conservative, and is often described having laws that is discriminatory against trans people.  I guess, if this is not the modern society, and or DNA testing was never invented.  Then she would be a legendary female boxer.  she has a Y chromosome this is not in dispute she has extra testosterone as  a result and can pummel the face of a female opponent mothra gets off on this its sick Some girls are born with XY.   In those cases, they would have a vagina, fallopian tube, and ovaries.   They are probably not fertile.  But. because of these, they are raised as female.  And in biblical sense, they are born with physical bodies of female.  It is only with advancement of science, that we find out that some of those girls indeed have a Y chromosome.   How do we know, if every other female athletes ever in the history of Olympics have similar conditions?  Do we then, in all fairness, subject all female athletes ever competed, even if they are completely physically female on the outside, to undergo a gene test?   And then if they tested +ve, we strip them of their gold and records?

Oh really - how do we know that Imane Khelif hasn't got a big banana down there?  -
has anyone had a look?    :-/

lee wrote on Aug 16^th, 2024 at 12:31pm:

Still trolling?

no, just holding you to your comment


lee wrote on Aug 16^th, 2024 at 12:31pm:

There was never a merger that required them to be separated. They were distinctly and always separate. Roll Eyes

and yet it was YOU who claimed that the current IOC changed things

:D

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2024 at 1:33pm:

and yet it was YOU who claimed that the current IOC changed things

So that should be easy for you to prove. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Bobby. wrote on Aug 16^th, 2024 at 1:12pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Aug 16th, 2024 at 12:47pm: aquascoot wrote on Aug 15th, 2024 at 5:48pm: tickleandrose wrote on Aug 15th, 2024 at 4:52pm: This is a very interesting case.  Assume She has XY chromosome (so it says but no one provided the actual result).   But she is born with a vagina.   And because of that, society had raised her and treated her as a female.  This case, is not a case, where some male suddenly decided to call himself a female.   So this is not a trans case.  Mind you, the nation Algeria is quite conservative, and is often described having laws that is discriminatory against trans people.  I guess, if this is not the modern society, and or DNA testing was never invented.  Then she would be a legendary female boxer.  she has a Y chromosome this is not in dispute she has extra testosterone as  a result and can pummel the face of a female opponent mothra gets off on this its sick Some girls are born with XY.   In those cases, they would have a vagina, fallopian tube, and ovaries.   They are probably not fertile.  But. because of these, they are raised as female.  And in biblical sense, they are born with physical bodies of female.  It is only with advancement of science, that we find out that some of those girls indeed have a Y chromosome.   How do we know, if every other female athletes ever in the history of Olympics have similar conditions?  Do we then, in all fairness, subject all female athletes ever competed, even if they are completely physically female on the outside, to undergo a gene test?   And then if they tested +ve, we strip them of their gold and records?  Oh really - how do we know that Imane Khelif hasn't got a big banana down there?  - has anyone had a look?    :-/

Algeria is a country that has un-friendly policies against trans.  I doubt she would be called a national hero if she is one.  And even newscorp reported that she has a female body.  

And it does happen in the nature.   Whether we have bodies of male or females depending on interactions of hormones against our DNA in utero.    A good analogy would be say type 1 diabetes.  People born with insulin deficiency.    In XY females, there could be complete deficiency of testosterone or other male hormones.   Or perhaps, the receptors on their reproductive progenitor organs does not respond to sex hormones.  Causing them to born with female like l(aka very low) levels of male androgens at birth, and with female sex organs. 

The world is a fascinating place.   I foresee that in the future with advancement of science, esp gene and hormone therapy.   Gender re-assignment treatment would advance to a level where you cant physically and genetically tell the difference between a born sex to that of a changed sex. 

lee wrote on Aug 16^th, 2024 at 1:58pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2024 at 1:33pm: and yet it was YOU who claimed that the current IOC changed things So that should be easy for you to prove. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Very easy


lee wrote on Aug 15^th, 2024 at 6:42pm:

Wiser heads prevailed at the time, they could probably foresee future problems, unlike the current IOC.

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2024 at 3:09pm:

lee wrote Yesterday at 4:42pm: Wiser heads prevailed at the time, they could probably foresee future problems, unlike the current IOC.

Where exactly does it say they were once merged? Wiser heads prevailed by having separate events for women, always. The current IOC seems to want to be inclusive, based solely on passports. ::)

lee wrote on Aug 16^th, 2024 at 3:18pm:

The current IOC seems to want to be inclusive, based solely on passports

Every Olympic committee based their 'inclusivity' on passports and birth certificates you moron. The current IOC are doing exactly what the previous IOC's did.

The only thing that changed was the concocted outrage by the retarded right. That has nothing to do with the IOC, past or present.

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2024 at 3:24pm:

Every Olympic committee based their 'inclusivity' on passports and birth certificates you moron. The current IOC are doing exactly what the previous IOC's did.

And that was BEFORE DNA testing, Dumbass.


John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2024 at 3:24pm:

The only thing that changed was the concocted outrage by the retarded right. That has nothing to do with the IOC, past or present.

So you refute DNA evidence, good for you. It doesn't make you right.

"Concocted outrage" How very special you are. One more of the woke clowns. ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Aug 16^th, 2024 at 3:30pm:

And that was BEFORE DNA testing, Dumbass.

so now your upset that they did the same as every other IOC? :D :D :D


lee wrote on Aug 16^th, 2024 at 3:30pm:

So you refute DNA evidence, good for you

I refute that you've got a brain.

No Test - No Contest!

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2024 at 3:36pm:

so now your upset that they did the same as every other IOC?

Only in the dimwitted world of Guido is there no change. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Aug 16^th, 2024 at 4:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2024 at 3:36pm: so now your upset that they did the same as every other IOC? Only in the dimwitted world of Guido is there no change. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Pity for you that your comment was specifically about how the current IOC changed what they do, not about medical advances over the last few decades.

are you starting to realise just how stupid you are yet?

tickleandrose wrote on Aug 16^th, 2024 at 2:30pm:

Algeria is a country that has un-friendly policies against trans.  I doubt she would be called a national hero if she is one.  And even newscorp reported that she has a female body.

By unfriendly do you mean they execute poofters who dress up as women?

Khelif sounds like these Palestinians who were born and raised as female despite being male.
The Doctor will explain why

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NZS270kr-8
Boxing rules were changed a couple of years ago to define woman as XX chromosome.
A Gold in Olympic boxing leads to a professional career this will not happen with Khelif he will have to box against men he has XY chromosomes.

XX produce eggs, XY produce sperm the science deniers should go back to school.

Is he one of these?

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John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2024 at 4:15pm:

Pity for you that your comment was specifically about how the current IOC changed what they do, not about medical advances over the last few decades.

Nope. You were the one pontificating about how they hadn't changed.

The IBA WAS the body IOC endorsed for the Paris Olympics, they removed the endorsement for LA28, and from June 2023. So the IOC changed their procedure.

https://olympics.com/ioc/news/ioc-executive-board-recommends-to-ioc-session-to-withdraw-recognition-of-international-boxing-association

The IOC had reservations about refereeing and judging, not how they determined gender.

https://olympics.com/ioc/news/new-boxing-qualification-system-approved-for-paris-2024

So the IOC changed the rules regarding gender. Not as something they have always done. ::)

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 16^th, 2024 at 4:42pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Aug 16th, 2024 at 2:30pm: Algeria is a country that has un-friendly policies against trans.  I doubt she would be called a national hero if she is one.  And even newscorp reported that she has a female body.   By unfriendly do you mean they execute poofters who dress up as women? Khelif sounds like these Palestinians who were born and raised as female despite being male. The Doctor will explain why https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NZS270kr-8 Boxing rules were changed a couple of years ago to define woman as XX chromosome. A Gold in Olympic boxing leads to a professional career this will not happen with Khelif he will have to box against men he has XY chromosomes. XX produce eggs, XY produce sperm the science deniers should go back to school. Is he one of these?

It is hard to say, since I dont have any more details about her condition. 

Lets play a mind game.   Lets just say, there is this person - say Person A, who was born with female genitalia in a MAGA community inside the bible belt in USA.  Person A will be given a female name, and raised as a female.  Now... you an outsider, suddenly came, and claim that through science, she should be a man rather than a woman.    Those community will think that you are trying to 'convert' a biological female (that they know) into a trans man.    They will claim that you are a charlatan, and that your science is rubbish.  Get out of our town.   :)

tickleandrose wrote on Aug 16^th, 2024 at 5:47pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 16th, 2024 at 4:42pm: tickleandrose wrote on Aug 16th, 2024 at 2:30pm: Algeria is a country that has un-friendly policies against trans.  I doubt she would be called a national hero if she is one.  And even newscorp reported that she has a female body.   By unfriendly do you mean they execute poofters who dress up as women? Khelif sounds like these Palestinians who were born and raised as female despite being male. The Doctor will explain why https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NZS270kr-8 Boxing rules were changed a couple of years ago to define woman as XX chromosome. A Gold in Olympic boxing leads to a professional career this will not happen with Khelif he will have to box against men he has XY chromosomes. XX produce eggs, XY produce sperm the science deniers should go back to school. Is he one of these? It is hard to say, since I dont have any more details about her condition.  Lets play a mind game.   Lets just say, there is this person - say Person A, who was born with female genitalia in a MAGA community inside the bible belt in USA.  Person A will be given a female name, and raised as a female.  Now... you an outsider, suddenly came, and claim that through science, she should be a man rather than a woman.    Those community will think that you are trying to 'convert' a biological female (that they know) into a trans man.    They will claim that you are a charlatan, and that your science is rubbish.  Get out of our town.   :)

Not a 'trans man' - a man incorrectly fitted with the wrong equipment... you don't seriously believe that shagging channel that goes nowhere is a female accoutrement, do you?  You can buy one of those at any chop shop....

In the highlighted section - you do understand RARE, don't you?  And these 'sex change operations' - are they to become boys or girls?  Lady's equipment buried deep is not going to work.... reduce the population of Gaza - neuter them!!  Cousins, you say?  Well - that's what you get when you marry cousin to cousin.

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Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Aug 16^th, 2024 at 5:50pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Aug 16th, 2024 at 5:47pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 16th, 2024 at 4:42pm: tickleandrose wrote on Aug 16th, 2024 at 2:30pm: Algeria is a country that has un-friendly policies against trans.  I doubt she would be called a national hero if she is one.  And even newscorp reported that she has a female body.   By unfriendly do you mean they execute poofters who dress up as women? Khelif sounds like these Palestinians who were born and raised as female despite being male. The Doctor will explain why https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NZS270kr-8 Boxing rules were changed a couple of years ago to define woman as XX chromosome. A Gold in Olympic boxing leads to a professional career this will not happen with Khelif he will have to box against men he has XY chromosomes. XX produce eggs, XY produce sperm the science deniers should go back to school. Is he one of these? It is hard to say, since I dont have any more details about her condition.  Lets play a mind game.   Lets just say, there is this person - say Person A, who was born with female genitalia in a MAGA community inside the bible belt in USA.  Person A will be given a female name, and raised as a female.  Now... you an outsider, suddenly came, and claim that through science, she should be a man rather than a woman.    Those community will think that you are trying to 'convert' a biological female (that they know) into a trans man.    They will claim that you are a charlatan, and that your science is rubbish.  Get out of our town.   :) Not a 'trans man' - a man incorrectly fitted with the wrong equipment... you don't seriously believe that shagging channel that goes nowhere is a female accoutrement, do you?  You can buy one of those at any chop shop.... In the highlighted section - you do understand RARE, don't you?  And these 'sex change operations' - are they to become boys or girls?  Lady's equipment buried deep is not going to work.... reduce the population of Gaza - neuter them!!  Cousins, you say?  Well - that's what you get when you marry cousin to cousin.

well according to the very conservative news.com.au she is a female, with female parts.  And that this is not a transgender issue.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/olympics/childhood-photos-of-boxer-at-centre-of-olympic-gender-scandal-emerge/news-story/8b1333a63fe99550d39b3d5448dfcd99

Yes, it is rare.   As to if they should become a man or woman.  Well... if they are born with female bits... how are you going to ... I dont know add it to make her a man?    :o

tickleandrose wrote on Aug 16^th, 2024 at 2:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 16th, 2024 at 1:12pm: Oh really - how do we know that Imane Khelif hasn't got a big banana down there?  - has anyone had a look?    :-/ Algeria is a country that has un-friendly policies against trans. I doubt she would be called a national hero if she is one.  And even newscorp reported that she has a female body.

Newscorp might have made that up.

The most likely biological situation with Imane Khelif is that he/she/it/they/thur/them has the external genitals of a female and the internal, testosterone producing testes of a man.

This very rare biological situation should not preclude Imane Khelif from being a happy healthy person who can go about their life free to do whatever they want, apart from competing in sport against 'standard' biological females. While Imane Khelif may not feel that's fair and the rest of the 0.018% of the population with DSD may not feel that's fair, it's actually very fair of 'standard' biological women who've devoted their whole life to a sport.

Gordon wrote on Aug 16^th, 2024 at 8:33pm:

The most likely biological situation with Imane Khelif is that he/she/it/they/thur/them has the external genitals of a female and the internal, testosterone producing testes of a man. This very rare biological situation should not preclude Imane Khelif from being a happy healthy person who can go about their life free to do whatever they want, apart from competing in sport against 'standard' biological females. While Imane Khelif may not feel that's fair and the rest of the 0.018% of the population with DSD may not feel that's fair, it's actually very fair of 'standard' biological women who've devoted their whole life to a sport.

yes - perhaps internal balls?

In any case - the female boxer who got punched twice in the face -
I saw it but - all 3 videos were take down in a matter of a few hours.
The punches weren't that hard -
she didn't get her nose broken or her skin split.

Also - the rules of boxing say that you must defend yourself at all times.
Both times she let her guard down and got punched over the top of her right glove.
That female had bad footwork - she didn't duck punches -
she didn't keep her guard up -  she didn't move around -
just stood there slugging it out -
she was a bad boxer.

The little girl on the right.

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/08/imane-khelif-right-https-www-86772625.jpg

Looks like a little girl to me.

https://img.resized.co/breaking-news/eyJkYXRhIjoie1widXJsXCI6XCJodHRwczpcXFwvXFxcL2ltYWdlcy5icmVha2luZ25ld3MuaWVcXFwvcHJvZFxcXC91cGxvYWRzXFxcLzIwMjRcXFwvMDhcXFwvMDMxNDM5NTJcXFwvR2V0dHlJbWFnZXMtMjE2NDU4NDM1Mi1lMTcyMjY5MjU1OTUwMS5qcGdcIixcIndpZHRoXCI6bnVsbCxcImhlaWdodFwiOjQyMCxcImRlZmF1bHRcIjpcImh0dHBzOlxcXC9cXFwvd3d3LmJyZWFraW5nbmV3cy5pZVxcXC9pbWFnZXNcXFwvbm8taW1hZ2UucG5nXCIsXCJvcHRpb25zXCI6e1wib3V0cHV0XCI6XCJ3ZWJwXCJ9fSIsImhhc2giOiI0ZTY5ZGYyMzZmZGVmZGQxMjg4NzA5YmY0N2FlYzk5MWY2OTAyNjhiIn0=/gettyimages-2164584352-e1722692559501.jpg

lee wrote on Aug 16^th, 2024 at 3:30pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2024 at 3:24pm: Every Olympic committee based their 'inclusivity' on passports and birth certificates you moron. The current IOC are doing exactly what the previous IOC's did. And that was BEFORE DNA testing, Dumbass. John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2024 at 3:24pm: The only thing that changed was the concocted outrage by the retarded right. That has nothing to do with the IOC, past or present. So you refute DNA evidence, good for you. It doesn't make you right. "Concocted outrage" How very special you are. One more of the woke clowns. ;D ;D ;D ;D

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And that was BEFORE DNA testing, Dumbass.

The last Olympics was 2020. That was before DNA testing ? Not sure it is a good idea to call someone a dumbass when you say something like this.

Dnarever wrote on Aug 16^th, 2024 at 10:56pm:

Looks like a little girl to me. https://img.resized.co/breaking-news/eyJkYXRhIjoie1widXJsXCI6XCJodHRwczpcXFwvXFxcL2ltYWdlcy5icmVha2luZ25ld3MuaWVcXFwvcHJvZFxcXC91cGxvYWRzXFxcLzIwMjRcXFwvMDhcXFwvMDMxNDM5NTJcXFwvR2V0dHlJbWFnZXMtMjE2NDU4NDM1Mi1lMTcyMjY5MjU1OTUwMS5qcGdcIixcIndpZHRoXCI6bnVsbCxcImhlaWdodFwiOjQyMCxcImRlZmF1bHRcIjpcImh0dHBzOlxcXC9cXFwvd3d3LmJyZWFraW5nbmV3cy5pZVxcXC9pbWFnZXNcXFwvbm8taW1hZ2UucG5nXCIsXCJvcHRpb25zXCI6e1wib3V0cHV0XCI6XCJ3ZWJwXCJ9fSIsImhhc2giOiI0ZTY5ZGYyMzZmZGVmZGQxMjg4NzA5YmY0N2FlYzk5MWY2OTAyNjhiIn0=/gettyimages-2164584352-e1722692559501.jpg

The Palestinians in this video looked like little girls dressed as little girls despite having internal testicles.

The doctor said it was caused by inbreeding muslims marry their cousins. He also said it was fairly common in Gaza.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NZS270kr-8

lee wrote on Aug 16^th, 2024 at 5:38pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2024 at 4:15pm: Pity for you that your comment was specifically about how the current IOC changed what they do, not about medical advances over the last few decades. Nope. You were the one pontificating about how they hadn't changed. The IBA WAS the body IOC endorsed for the Paris Olympics, they removed the endorsement for LA28, and from June 2023. So the IOC changed their procedure. https://olympics.com/ioc/news/ioc-executive-board-recommends-to-ioc-session-to-withdraw-recognition-of-international-boxing-association The IOC had reservations about refereeing and judging, not how they determined gender. https://olympics.com/ioc/news/new-boxing-qualification-system-approved-for-paris-2024 So the IOC changed the rules regarding gender. Not as something they have always done. ::)

We were discussing the IOC's rules regarding gender, not the IBA's rules. The rules did not change, only the body that determined the result of the rules. The IOC's rules were ALWAYS to use the gender specified on birth certificates or passports to determine the applicants gender. The IOC's RULES have not changed.

John's confusion is, as ever, irredeemable.

freediver wrote on Aug 17^th, 2024 at 10:23am:

John's confusion is, as ever, irredeemable.

Don't cry fd. It's unbecoming

XX fight XX - XY fight XY ... easy???

I still pity the poor buggar born with no nuts to lick and rudimentary at best female bits that will never work etc.. a perpetual case of blue ovaries .... no wonder he wants to go into boxing - as long as it's not too hard .....

All the world is asking for is a definitive test.... man or woman ... not whether or not they can pass the self-ID passport test, duckie ... this isn't Queensland here - this is real people and real people's lives. 

John Smith wrote on Aug 17^th, 2024 at 9:30am:

We were discussing the IOC's rules regarding gender, not the IBA's rules.

As the authorised holder of the Boxing it was the IBA's remit. ::)

Dnarever wrote on Aug 16^th, 2024 at 11:04pm:

The last Olympics was 2020. That was before DNA testing ? Not sure it is a good idea to call someone a dumbass when you say something like this.

DNA testing wasn't around since "the same as every other IOC". ::)

lee wrote on Aug 17^th, 2024 at 12:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 17th, 2024 at 9:30am: We were discussing the IOC's rules regarding gender, not the IBA's rules. As the authorised holder of the Boxing it was the IBA's remit. ::)

And yet it was YOU who pretended that the current IOC changed the rules :D

John Smith wrote on Aug 17^th, 2024 at 12:57pm:

lee wrote on Aug 17th, 2024 at 12:53pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 17th, 2024 at 9:30am: We were discussing the IOC's rules regarding gender, not the IBA's rules. As the authorised holder of the Boxing it was the IBA's remit. ::) And yet it was YOU who pretended that the current IOC changed the rules :D

A quick check of the nuts would help and access to medical records.   :o    It's no good just going around licking their nuts...

John Smith wrote on Aug 17^th, 2024 at 12:57pm:

And yet it was YOU who pretended that the current IOC changed the rules

They did, from the IBA's rules. From DNA to Passports. ::)

Do try to keep up.

lee

dont try and argue with smith

he is incapable of admitting he is wrong even though he invariably is  ;D ;D ;D

aquascoot wrote on Aug 17^th, 2024 at 2:10pm:

lee dont try and argue with smith he is incapable of admitting he is wrong even though he invariably is  ;D ;D ;D

Smith was the school dunce -

he was kicked out of school at the age of 15.    ::)

lee wrote on Aug 17^th, 2024 at 2:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 17th, 2024 at 12:57pm: And yet it was YOU who pretended that the current IOC changed the rules They did, from the IBA's rules. From DNA to Passports. ::) Do try to keep up.

The AOC has never used the IBA's rules - they changed nothing

i.e. - AOC
2000 - Passports
2004 - Passports
2008 - Passports
2012 - Passports
2016 - Passports
2020 - Passports
2024 - Passports

The IBA set the rules for its own events.

aquascoot wrote on Aug 17^th, 2024 at 2:10pm:

lee dont try and argue with smith he is incapable of admitting he is wrong even though he invariably is  ;D ;D ;D

Funny you say that when he is correct on this one? The AOC is using the same criteria it has used for decades without change.

Well - this needs clarifying NOW before the next games and Sugar Raye and Michele Tyson are in the women's events..

This Algerian seems to be a special case of not being 'transgender' as such - but not fitting the bill to be a woman.  A clear case of gender assignment at birth gone wrong for possibly the right reasons...

The Olympics committee do drug tests - how hard is it to first check on hormones, then when in doubt, do further testing?  Such clear hard science is mandated for physically aggressive sports.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TR58rK28Aw

Dnarever wrote on Aug 17^th, 2024 at 11:30pm:

lee wrote on Aug 17th, 2024 at 2:00pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 17th, 2024 at 12:57pm: And yet it was YOU who pretended that the current IOC changed the rules They did, from the IBA's rules. From DNA to Passports. ::) Do try to keep up. The AOC has never used the IBA's rules - they changed nothing i.e. - AOC 2000 - Passports 2004 - Passports 2008 - Passports 2012 - Passports 2016 - Passports 2020 - Passports 2024 - Passports The IBA set the rules for its own events.

AOC?

Dnarever wrote on Aug 17^th, 2024 at 11:30pm:

The AOC has never used the IBA's rules - they changed nothing

"Sex testing came about in the 1940s, typically via visual inspection. As the decades went on, the process evolved to include physical examinations, chromosome testing and testosterone level testing, according to a National Library of Medicine report. "

https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/sports/olympics/sex-testing-olympics-2024-paris-rules/

That is a change.

More ...

"Mandatory sex testing was banned in '90s"

ibid

That's another change.

And another thing -

"Each sport's international federation gets to decide athlete eligibility"

ibid

The IBA was an International Federation.

Okay, the basic principal for banning the Algerian Boxer is that, with XY chromosome, she may have intra abdominal testis, which produces testosterone, which give her an unfair advantage in woman's sports.   We can agree to disagree on this regard. 

But why stop here.  What if... its a XX woman, who has a slow growing testosterone producing tumor that remained un-diagnosed, perhaps due to lack of health care in some areas of the world.  One would argue, that those XX women also has an unfair advantage against those who dont have the tumor.   Is this means, that in the future, in women sport, there are going to be discrimination against those with diseases as well, if that disease grants an unfair advantage? 

tickleandrose wrote on Aug 18^th, 2024 at 1:12pm:

ts a XX woman, who has a slow growing testosterone producing tumor that remained un-diagnosed, perhaps due to lack of health care in some areas of the world.

Wouldn't that make it XY?

lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2024 at 1:17pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Aug 18th, 2024 at 1:12pm: ts a XX woman, who has a slow growing testosterone producing tumor that remained un-diagnosed, perhaps due to lack of health care in some areas of the world. Wouldn't that make it XY?

There are tumors that occur in XX genetic females that produces male androgen or both.   So, its like instead of injecting testosterone... some tissues in their body mutates and start to produce male sex hormone. 

Yes, IK has a rare medical condition that gives he/she/it/they/them/thur an unfair advantage.

In life, we are often unfair to a tiny % of the population to be fai r to the vast majority.

tickleandrose wrote on Aug 18^th, 2024 at 1:26pm:

There are tumors that occur in XX genetic females that produces male androgen or both.   So, its like instead of injecting testosterone... some tissues in their body mutates and start to produce male sex hormone.

And the international bodies should be able to tell whether that particular discipline would be impacted. ;)

what do the olympic oligarchs want?

ratings.

attention and eyeballs  =   $$$$

what better way to get eyebalss then to use rage bait

they dont care about a female getting her face punched in by a male
its controversial and the masses will watch

no different to ray gun

they dont care some really talented teenage break dancer got her dreams smashed so some fat mole could get a free trip to paris
the controversy is simply too profitable

Thank you everyone.  So Gordon here believes that Yes, IK has a rare medical condition that gives he/she/it/they/them/thur an unfair advantage.  While Lee is ambivalent, leaving it to the bodies that governed the sports. 

Okay, lets not concentrate on rare disease, like ovarian / germ cell tumour.  What about conditions that are more common?    Lets take for example polycystic ovarian syndrome.  The prevalence of PCOS is about 10%, give or take which study you based your figure from.  So it is fairly common. 

I can go on and on about pathogenesis of PCOS for many hours.  But in short, it is caused by imbalance of hormones produced by the ovaries, that then caused increased levels of other hormones, which can include: insulin like growth hormone, and male type androgens.   The symptoms of PCOS can include: excessive hair (female beard), acne, menstruation irregularities and infertility. 

Studies have found that women with PCOS are over represented in elite sports.  As the milder form of PCOS enable these female athletes to have higher muscle mass and increased bone mass than those without. 

So my question is then... where do we draw the line?  Should we then start to discriminate against those with naturally occurring diseases that gives an advantage in sports.  And at what level of sports should we start to restrict - e.g. local club level, state level, or international competitions only.

Thank you Tickle.

To the rest of you, you don't know what she has. And yes, she is a she. She was declared female at birth and has lived her entire life as a female.

The haste you all exhibit in pronouncing her a he is telling. you base this alone on contradictory reports from the Russian IBA, an association removed from the IOC incorporation for corruption. The IBA have given both the statements that Imane failed tests due to hormone levels and due to chromosome issues. Note, these concerns were only raised after a Russian fighter was defeated by Imane. They have been contradictory and inconsistent in their account of what their issue is with Imane. that is surely enough to tell us all to refrain from judgement.

Note .... neither of the above mean she isn't a woman.

but look at you all, hanging her out to dry and referring to her almost unanimously as a he ... or an it.

But more to the point, we don't know what the specifics are yet, only that she fought her way to the top of her sport and that all of her competitors stand by her. The IOC stands by her.

And she is filing a lawsuit for cyberbullying as a result of the hell she's been through.

And here you all are ... cyberbullying her.

On absolutely no evidence at all.

Mothra,

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She was declared female at birth and has lived her entire life as a female.

They were wrong -
it has XY chromosomes which equals a man.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 6:56am:

Mothra, Quote: She was declared female at birth and has lived her entire life as a female. They were wrong - it has XY chromosomes which equals a man.

Provide evidence of this.

And even if that were the case, no it doesn't. You absolute muppet.

mothra wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 6:57am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 6:56am: Mothra, Quote: She was declared female at birth and has lived her entire life as a female. They were wrong - it has XY chromosomes which equals a man. Provide evidence of this.

I dunno - I read it somewhere - it's easy to test for that -
even covertly - we leave our DNA everywhere we go.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 6:59am:

mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 6:57am: Bobby. wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 6:56am: Mothra, Quote: She was declared female at birth and has lived her entire life as a female. They were wrong - it has XY chromosomes which equals a man. Provide evidence of this. I dunno - I read it somewhere - it's easy to test for that - even covertly - we leave our DNA everywhere we go.

So just trolling again, Scrappy Doo. What an accomplishment. Satisfied?

mothra wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 7:00am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 6:59am: mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 6:57am: Bobby. wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 6:56am: Mothra, Quote: She was declared female at birth and has lived her entire life as a female. They were wrong - it has XY chromosomes which equals a man. Provide evidence of this. I dunno - I read it somewhere - it's easy to test for that - even covertly - we leave our DNA everywhere we go. So just trolling again, Scrappy Doo. What an accomplishment. Satisfied?

Nah - probably has a big banana down there too.     :o

mothra wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 6:31am:

Thank you Tickle. To the rest of you, you don't know what she has. And yes, she is a she. She was declared female at birth and has lived her entire life as a female. The haste you all exhibit in pronouncing her a he is telling. you base this alone on contradictory reports from the Russian IBA, an association removed from the IOC incorporation for corruption. The IBA have given both the statements that Imane failed tests due to hormone levels and due to chromosome issues. Note, these concerns were only raised after a Russian fighter was defeated by Imane. They have been contradictory and inconsistent in their account of what their issue is with Imane. that is surely enough to tell us all to refrain from judgement. Note .... neither of the above mean she isn't a woman. but look at you all, hanging her out to dry and referring to her almost unanimously as a he ... or an it. But more to the point, we don't know what the specifics are yet, only that she fought her way to the top of her sport and that all of her competitors stand by her. The IOC stands by her. And she is filing a lawsuit for cyberbullying as a result of the hell she's been through. And here you all are ... cyberbullying her. On absolutely no evidence at all.

And on any other issue, the same muppets who are now crying that 'she' is a 'he', would have been crying that she was a 'she' because 'she' was born with a vagina

Consistently inconsistent, thats what the haters are

John Smith wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 7:13am:

mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 6:31am: Thank you Tickle. To the rest of you, you don't know what she has. And yes, she is a she. She was declared female at birth and has lived her entire life as a female. The haste you all exhibit in pronouncing her a he is telling. you base this alone on contradictory reports from the Russian IBA, an association removed from the IOC incorporation for corruption. The IBA have given both the statements that Imane failed tests due to hormone levels and due to chromosome issues. Note, these concerns were only raised after a Russian fighter was defeated by Imane. They have been contradictory and inconsistent in their account of what their issue is with Imane. that is surely enough to tell us all to refrain from judgement. Note .... neither of the above mean she isn't a woman. but look at you all, hanging her out to dry and referring to her almost unanimously as a he ... or an it. But more to the point, we don't know what the specifics are yet, only that she fought her way to the top of her sport and that all of her competitors stand by her. The IOC stands by her. And she is filing a lawsuit for cyberbullying as a result of the hell she's been through. And here you all are ... cyberbullying her. On absolutely no evidence at all. And on any other issue, the same muppets who are now crying that 'she' is a 'he', would have been crying that she was a 'she' because 'she' was born with a vagina Consistently inconsistent, thats what the haters are

They just know they don't like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4tZRZSGxcE&t=15s&ab_channel=kristyfarquhar

mothra wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 6:31am:

And yes, she is a she. She was declared female at birth and has lived her entire life as a female.

What do you say to all the people who think they can change their gender after it has been 'declared'?

freediver wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 7:33am:

mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 6:31am: And yes, she is a she. She was declared female at birth and has lived her entire life as a female. What do you say to all the people who think they can change their gender after it has been 'declared'?

Nothing. You?

mothra wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 7:36am:

freediver wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:33am: mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 6:31am: And yes, she is a she. She was declared female at birth and has lived her entire life as a female. What do you say to all the people who think they can change their gender after it has been 'declared'? Nothing. You?

So you wouldn't dare say anything like "she is a she, she was declared female at birth and has lived her entire life as a female"?

freediver wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 7:44am:

mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:36am: freediver wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:33am: mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 6:31am: And yes, she is a she. She was declared female at birth and has lived her entire life as a female. What do you say to all the people who think they can change their gender after it has been 'declared'? Nothing. You? So you wouldn't dare say anything like "she is a she, she was declared female at birth and has lived her entire life as a female"?

God you're boring.

It has XY chromosomes - the same as any bloke.

mothra wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 7:47am:

freediver wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:44am: mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:36am: freediver wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:33am: mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 6:31am: And yes, she is a she. She was declared female at birth and has lived her entire life as a female. What do you say to all the people who think they can change their gender after it has been 'declared'? Nothing. You? So you wouldn't dare say anything like "she is a she, she was declared female at birth and has lived her entire life as a female"? God you're boring.

I am just curious to know when you consider the gender "declared" at birth to be the final arbiter?

Bobby. wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 7:48am:

It has XY chromosomes - the same as any bloke.

She is not an it and prove it.

freediver wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 7:51am:

mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:47am: freediver wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:44am: mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:36am: freediver wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:33am: mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 6:31am: And yes, she is a she. She was declared female at birth and has lived her entire life as a female. What do you say to all the people who think they can change their gender after it has been 'declared'? Nothing. You? So you wouldn't dare say anything like "she is a she, she was declared female at birth and has lived her entire life as a female"? God you're boring. I am just curious to know when you consider the gender "declared" at birth to be the final arbiter?

Well you could have tried asking me that question then, couldn't you.

mothra wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 7:51am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:48am: It has XY chromosomes - the same as any bloke. She is not an it and prove it.

Only a deluded freak like you could support a bloke smashing up a woman in a boxing ring.

mothra wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 7:52am:

freediver wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:51am: mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:47am: freediver wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:44am: mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:36am: freediver wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:33am: mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 6:31am: And yes, she is a she. She was declared female at birth and has lived her entire life as a female. What do you say to all the people who think they can change their gender after it has been 'declared'? Nothing. You? So you wouldn't dare say anything like "she is a she, she was declared female at birth and has lived her entire life as a female"? God you're boring. I am just curious to know when you consider the gender "declared" at birth to be the final arbiter? Well you could have tried asking me that question then, couldn't you.

I did. So you wouldn't dare say anything like "she is a she, she was declared female at birth and has lived her entire life as a female"?

Bobby. wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 7:54am:

mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:51am: Bobby. wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:48am: It has XY chromosomes - the same as any bloke. She is not an it and prove it. Only a deluded freak like you could support a bloke smashing up a woman in a boxing ring.

That never happened.

Tell me, if Imane had such an unfair advantage, why was she beaten so often before securing success?

freediver wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 7:55am:

mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:52am: freediver wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:51am: mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:47am: freediver wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:44am: mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:36am: freediver wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:33am: mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 6:31am: And yes, she is a she. She was declared female at birth and has lived her entire life as a female. What do you say to all the people who think they can change their gender after it has been 'declared'? Nothing. You? So you wouldn't dare say anything like "she is a she, she was declared female at birth and has lived her entire life as a female"? God you're boring. I am just curious to know when you consider the gender "declared" at birth to be the final arbiter? Well you could have tried asking me that question then, couldn't you. I did.

No. You didn't.

Would you like to ask me?

mothra wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 7:56am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:54am: mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:51am: Bobby. wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:48am: It has XY chromosomes - the same as any bloke. She is not an it and prove it. Only a deluded freak like you could support a bloke smashing up a woman in a boxing ring. That never happened. Tell me, if Imane had such an unfair advantage, why was she beaten so often before securing success?

What a silly thing to say -

all boxers lose many fights as they learn their trade.     ::)

Bobby. wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 7:59am:

mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:56am: Bobby. wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:54am: mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:51am: Bobby. wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:48am: It has XY chromosomes - the same as any bloke. She is not an it and prove it. Only a deluded freak like you could support a bloke smashing up a woman in a boxing ring. That never happened. Tell me, if Imane had such an unfair advantage, why was she beaten so often before securing success? What a silly thing to say - all boxers lose many fights as they learn their trade.     ::)

Only if they don;t have an unfair advantage.

mothra wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 8:00am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:59am: mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:56am: Bobby. wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:54am: mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:51am: Bobby. wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:48am: It has XY chromosomes - the same as any bloke. She is not an it and prove it. Only a deluded freak like you could support a bloke smashing up a woman in a boxing ring. That never happened. Tell me, if Imane had such an unfair advantage, why was she beaten so often before securing success? What a silly thing to say - all boxers lose many fights as they learn their trade.     ::) Only if they don;t have an unfair advantage.

Nonsense - a trained female boxer would beat an untrained male in the same weight class.    ::)

mothra wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 7:57am:

freediver wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:55am: mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:52am: freediver wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:51am: mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:47am: freediver wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:44am: mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:36am: freediver wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:33am: mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 6:31am: And yes, she is a she. She was declared female at birth and has lived her entire life as a female. What do you say to all the people who think they can change their gender after it has been 'declared'? Nothing. You? So you wouldn't dare say anything like "she is a she, she was declared female at birth and has lived her entire life as a female"? God you're boring. I am just curious to know when you consider the gender "declared" at birth to be the final arbiter? Well you could have tried asking me that question then, couldn't you. I did. No. You didn't. Would you like to ask me?

I am sorry you are in such a bad mood Mothra. Perhaps you can rephrase the question yourself into a form that you might deign to answer?

Bobby. wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 8:04am:

mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 8:00am: Bobby. wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:59am: mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:56am: Bobby. wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:54am: mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:51am: Bobby. wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:48am: It has XY chromosomes - the same as any bloke. She is not an it and prove it. Only a deluded freak like you could support a bloke smashing up a woman in a boxing ring. That never happened. Tell me, if Imane had such an unfair advantage, why was she beaten so often before securing success? What a silly thing to say - all boxers lose many fights as they learn their trade.     ::) Only if they don;t have an unfair advantage. Nonsense - a trained female boxer would beat an untrained male in the same weight class.    ::)

How did Imane go in the last Olympics, Scrappy Doo?

mothra wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 8:05am:

How did Imane go in the last Olympics, Scrappy Doo?

You tell me and don't call me puerile names - you silly old hag.

freediver wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 8:05am:

mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:57am: freediver wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:55am: mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:52am: freediver wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:51am: mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:47am: freediver wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:44am: mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:36am: freediver wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 7:33am: mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 6:31am: And yes, she is a she. She was declared female at birth and has lived her entire life as a female. What do you say to all the people who think they can change their gender after it has been 'declared'? Nothing. You? So you wouldn't dare say anything like "she is a she, she was declared female at birth and has lived her entire life as a female"? God you're boring. I am just curious to know when you consider the gender "declared" at birth to be the final arbiter? Well you could have tried asking me that question then, couldn't you. I did. No. You didn't. Would you like to ask me? I am sorry you are in such a bad mood Mothra. Perhaps you can rephrase the question yourself into a form that you might deign to answer?

I'm not fussed, Fleadriver. It's you that seems to have a bee in their bonnet over this one.

Quite frankly, you're making no sense to me. That is unless the unflattering interpretation i've come up with fits.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 8:11am:

mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 8:05am: How did Imane go in the last Olympics, Scrappy Doo? You tell me and don't call me puerile names - you silly old hag.

She came 5th, Scrappy Doo.

And if ever a name suited someone ...

mothra wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 6:31am:

you base this alone on contradictory reports from the Russian IBA, an association removed from the IOC incorporation for corruption. The IBA have given both the statements that Imane failed tests due to hormone levels and due to chromosome issues.

And the fact that her trainer says she has chromosomal issues.

"Imane Khelif's Coach Admits Boxer Has 'Problem With Chromosomes' After She Won Gold at Paris Olympics 2024"

https://www.ibtimes.sg/imane-khelifs-coach-admits-boxer-has-problem-chromosomes-after-she-won-gold-paris-olympics-75644

We shouldn't let the truth interfere with your judgement, eh?

lee wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 1:33pm:

And the fact that her trainer says she has chromosomal issues.

The very fact that it was used as an excuse to ban her qualifies as 'chromosomal issues'. It certainly doesn't confirm that she had xy chromosomes.

mothra wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 8:12am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 8:11am: mothra wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 8:05am: How did Imane go in the last Olympics, Scrappy Doo? You tell me and don't call me puerile names - you silly old hag. She came 5th, Scrappy Doo. And if ever a name suited someone ...

by that you mean


"silly old hag" :-/ :-/

John Smith wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 1:49pm:

The very fact that it was used as an excuse to ban her qualifies as 'chromosomal issues'. It certainly doesn't confirm that she had xy chromosomes.

Goodo Guido. Her trainer has the Schultz defence? I know nussing? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Maybe she had xz chromosomes? ;)

lee wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 6:20pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 1:49pm: The very fact that it was used as an excuse to ban her qualifies as 'chromosomal issues'. It certainly doesn't confirm that she had xy chromosomes. Goodo Guido. Her trainer has the Schultz defence? I know nussing? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Maybe she had xz chromosomes? ;)

Indeed.


How many male trainers carry their victorious female athletes on their shoulders like this? 
Not to mention the even more pressing (On the back of his neck) question: how many MUSLIM male trainers carry their MUSLIM lady athletes like this?


https://e3.365dm.com/24/08/1600x900/skynews-imran-khelife_6652433.jpg

John Smith wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 1:49pm:

lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 1:33pm: And the fact that her trainer says she has chromosomal issues. The very fact that it was used as an excuse to ban her qualifies as 'chromosomal issues'. It certainly doesn't confirm that she had xy chromosomes.

He has XY ya dopey science denier.

Boxing rules define female as XX Chromosomes.

He was disqualifed from 2023 world championships for being XY.

He didn't proceed with appeal he accepted failing gender test.

No muslim woman would be carried like this

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Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 10:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 1:49pm: lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 1:33pm: And the fact that her trainer says she has chromosomal issues. The very fact that it was used as an excuse to ban her qualifies as 'chromosomal issues'. It certainly doesn't confirm that she had xy chromosomes. He has XY ya dopey science denier. Boxing rules define female as XX Chromosomes. He was disqualifed from 2023 world championships for being XY. He didn't proceed with appeal he accepted failing gender test. No muslim woman would be carried like this

hard to believe that anyone would deny he is xy when the boxing authorities banned him for being XY.

can smith really be that dumb

dont answer that  :D :D

aquascoot wrote on Aug 20^th, 2024 at 12:42pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 10:47pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 1:49pm: lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 1:33pm: And the fact that her trainer says she has chromosomal issues. The very fact that it was used as an excuse to ban her qualifies as 'chromosomal issues'. It certainly doesn't confirm that she had xy chromosomes. He has XY ya dopey science denier. Boxing rules define female as XX Chromosomes. He was disqualifed from 2023 world championships for being XY. He didn't proceed with appeal he accepted failing gender test. No muslim woman would be carried like this hard to believe that anyone would deny he is xy when the boxing authorities banned him for being XY. can smith really be that dumb dont answer that  :D :D

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anyone would deny he is xy

Nobody has denied that. The point is that XY is not the olympic standard. She passed the Olympic standard. There are girls with XY chromosomes.

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Girls with Swyer syndrome have an XY chromosomal makeup (as boys normally do) instead of an XX chromosomal makeup (as girls normally do). Despite having the XY chromosomal makeup, girls with Swyer syndrome look female and have functional female genitalia and structures including a vagina, uterus and fallopian tubes.

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 10:47pm:

He has XY ya dopey science denier.

perhaps it's the word 'confirm' that you struggle with?

Dnarever wrote on Aug 20^th, 2024 at 1:25pm:

Quote: Girls with Swyer syndrome have an XY chromosomal makeup (as boys normally do) instead of an XX chromosomal makeup (as girls normally do). Despite having the XY chromosomal makeup, girls with Swyer syndrome look female and have functional female genitalia and structures including a vagina, uterus and fallopian tubes.

The report I quoted says it is NOT verified that she has Swyer syndrome.

"It is not verified if Khelif has been diagnosed with Swyer syndrome"

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/olympics/news/imane-khelif-condition-explained-gender-fact-check/51994b8a2e23e7b423782f7a

But perhaps you have something newer? ::)

There is a report on 2 August and one saying something else on 10 August.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/boxing-news-target-of-vicious-online-slander-after-first-round-win-at-paris-olympics-two-thousand-and-twenty-fourwhat-is-disgraced-boxer-imane-khelif-s-rare-genetic-condition-swyer-syndrome/

She definitely has balls in doing that.

aquascoot wrote on Aug 20^th, 2024 at 12:42pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 10:47pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 1:49pm: lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 1:33pm: And the fact that her trainer says she has chromosomal issues. The very fact that it was used as an excuse to ban her qualifies as 'chromosomal issues'. It certainly doesn't confirm that she had xy chromosomes. He has XY ya dopey science denier. Boxing rules define female as XX Chromosomes. He was disqualifed from 2023 world championships for being XY. He didn't proceed with appeal he accepted failing gender test. No muslim woman would be carried like this hard to believe that anyone would deny he is xy when the boxing authorities banned him for being XY. can smith really be that dumb dont answer that  :D :D

He failed gender test twice lodged an appeal but didn't proceed with it.

He will not be able to fight women as a professional his amateur career is over.

Elon and JK can afford the best lawyers Elon showed that recently here when esafety dictator took him to court and lost.
Does France have loser pays other sides legal fees if they lose?

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Paris 2024 women's boxing stirs so much emotion -- can facts take back the moment? PARIS – If they had been running the tournament here at the Paris Games, International Boxing Assn. officials said Monday, the Algerian and Chinese Taipei fighters now in the medal rounds in women’s boxing, both figuring in a worldwide controversy,would never have been in the ring in the first instance. That’s because, IBA officials said, both Algeria’s Imane Khelif and Yu Ting Lin of Chinese Taipei were disqualified at the 2023 IBA women’s world championships in New Delhi upon DNA tests that showed evidence of XY chromosomes – that is, a marker each is male. The International Olympic Committee, which is overseeing Paris 2024 boxing, opted to base eligibility on an athlete’s passport. IBA officials suggested Monday that missed the mark, noting that as of June 2023, more than a year before these Paris Games, the IOC knew about the New Delhi DQs. 3 Wire Sports has seen the test results and a June 5, 2023 IBA letter to the IOC that says tests of Khelif, one in New Delhi, a prior test in Istanbul at the 2022 world championships, “concluded the boxer’s DNA was that of a male consisting of XY chromosomes.” For both Khelif and Lin, the New Delhi test – from, as IBA disclosed Monday, the independent Dr Lal PathLabs – consists of three pages. In part: The first page provides, along with basic identifying information for each athlete and date and time of sample collection, result summary – “abnormal” – and interpretation – “chromosome analysis reveals Male karyotype.” The second page offers photographic representation of the 22 paired autosomes and then, for each athlete, further depicts an X and a Y chromosome. Page three makes plain that the lab is a “national reference lab” and, as well, accredited by CAP, the Northfield, Illinois-based College of American Pathologists, and certified by the ISO, the Swiss-based International Organization for Standardization. First, the IOC has gone to considerable lengths in promoting the Paris Olympics as a Games of female equality. For the first time in Olympic history, on the field of play it’s 50% female, 50% male. And yet a controversy erupted over athletes testing as XY in women’s boxing. Which the IOC knew about, in June 2023. There is no dispute about that. None At the Istanbul worlds in 2022, each gave a blood sample. Collection was made May 17, one at 1:38 p.m., the other at 1:39 p.m. The independent Sistem Tip Lab, which as the IBA statement notes carries license No. 194-MRK, issued reports May 24. For both athletes, there is a summary on page 2 that says the same thing. Translated per Google from Turkish: “Result: In the interphase nucleus FISH analysis performed on cells obtained from your patient's material, 100 interphase nuclei were examined with the Cytocell brand Prenatal Enumeration Probe Kit. An XY signal pattern was observed in all of them.” n its statement, IBA said the sole Istanbul test was “not enough to make a decision with respective consequences,” reasoning that with “one test, [a] mistake is possible.” It said lawyers “advised to monitor the situation and to contact the IOC.” Thus, at the 2023 women’s words in New Delhi, a second test for each. This is the Dr Lal PathLabs test. Blood from both athletes was collected at 10:30 a.m. on March 17. Reports were produced March 23. As IBA said in its statement, “The findings were absolutely identical to the first test results.” On March 24, the then-IBA chief executive, George Yerolimpos, told Khelif and Lin they were going to be disqualified. They signed documents acknowledging they were being excluded per IBA Rule 4.2.1. The test details “were attached to the letter,” the IBA said. That updated version of the rulebook said, “‘Women/Female/Girl’ means an individual with chromosome XX Both athletes, meantime, were afforded the chance to appeal the DQs to the Swiss-based Court of Arbitration for Sport. Lin did not appeal. So, the IBA’s position is the disqualification in Lin’s case “became legal and binding.” To follow IBA logic – Lin is still, under its rules, DQ’d. Thus, if it were running the tournament here, Lin would not be eligible. Khelif initially appealed. On July 27, 2023, after Khelif did not opt to pay to continue the case, CAS said it was over. Same logic — here, Khelif would be ineligible. https://www.3wiresports.com/articles/2024/8/5/fa9lt6ypbwx5su3z20xxnfzgtao0gy

The WBO also went public saying these 2 are males

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he/she is a victim to the left and hence is above criticism. this is an ideological position .

supporters of male on female violence (such as mothra and smith) place their ideology (their religion) above considerations of a male smashing in the face of a female

they are the most dispicable people.

they have no compassion for violence against women

thankfully, the noble men of the right are here to protect vulnerable women

an XY is NOT a vulnerable  woman

he/she is a cheat and a violent psychopath

aquascoot wrote on Aug 21^st, 2024 at 2:23pm:

he/she is a victim to the left and hence is above criticism. this is an ideological position . supporters of male on female violence (such as mothra and smith) place their ideology (their religion) above considerations of a male smashing in the face of a female they are the most dispicable people. they have no compassion for violence against women thankfully, the noble men of the right are here to protect vulnerable women an XY is NOT a vulnerable  woman he/she is a cheat and a violent psychopath

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GT5t_oUW4AAJ3H_?.jpg

Think of the crying and lawsuits when the medals are stripped.

No Cont Test - No Contest!

You da man, Imane.