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Message started by tallowood on Aug 15th, 2024 at 11:18am

Title: Taste of history
Post by tallowood on Aug 15th, 2024 at 11:18am
Black broth. The Food That Made Spartans Strong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuxE6d1KW2M


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MELAS ZOMOS
INGREDIENTS
- 2lb (1kg) Pig Leg (or other pork product)
- 2 Cups (1/2 liter) Pig Blood
- 1 Cup (235ml) White Wine Vinegar
- 2 Tablespoons Olive Oil
- 1 Tsp Salt
- 4 Cups (1 Litre) Water
- 3 Bay Leaf
- 1 Large Chopped Onion



Title: Re: Taste of history
Post by tallowood on Aug 20th, 2024 at 12:10pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxypUB5K0KE

Food for hungry violent men.

Title: Re: Taste of history
Post by tallowood on Sep 11th, 2024 at 2:47pm
Medieval Irish Food

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGf_0_2Ji5I


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RECIPE
4 lbs (2kg) corned beef
1/4 cup (85g) honey
1/2 teaspoon salt

1 large head of Cabbage
1 Yellow Onion
2 Leeks
2 cups (475ml) beef broth
1 teaspoon salt
1 optional teaspoon of pepper

Boil the corned beef for 1 minute. Drain and repeat at least one more time. Mix the honey and salt together and coat the corned beef. Wrap the corned beef in aluminum foil and set in a dish or roasting pan. Roast in the oven at 325°F/165°C for approximately 1 hour per pound. 30 minutes before it is finished, open the foil to let darken.

For the cabbage, quarter the cabbage, dice the onion and leek. Place all of the ingredients in a pot and bring to a boil on the stove. Reduce to a simmer and cover. Let cook for 25-30 minutes.

Title: Re: Taste of history
Post by tallowood on Sep 27th, 2024 at 12:28pm
What Samurai(Japanese)ate in the Edo period

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW-CCrPiMmc

00:00 Intro
00:19 Breakfast
05:37 Lunch
07:48 Dinner

Title: Re: Taste of history
Post by John_Taverner on Sep 28th, 2024 at 11:16am
Great thread!

ISICIA OMENTATA (a kind of Ancient Roman Burger)

(Apicius. 2, 1, 7)

Ingredients:
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500g  minced meat
1     french roll, soaked in white wine
1/2   tsp freshly ground pepper
50ml  Liquamen (can be replaced by 1/2 tsp salt + a little white wine)
some stone-pine kernels and green peppercorns
a little Caroenum (reduced grape juice - reduce to 3/4 volume on a gentle heat)

Baking foil

Instructions:
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Mix minced meat with the soaked french roll. Ground spices and mix into
the meat. Form small burgers and put pine kernels and peppercorns into
them. Put them into baking foil and grill them together with Caroenum.

(Actually the closest thing to Liquamen would be Thai fish sauce)
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Title: Re: Taste of history
Post by John_Taverner on Sep 28th, 2024 at 11:27am
You could serve the Isicia Omentata with Ancient Roman bread.

This one was overcooked by a volcano and survived only to be excavated in Pompei:

https://ancienthistory.org/ancient/rome/bread-from-pompeii/

...but you can make your own:

https://breadtopia.com/panis-quadratus-ancient-bread-of-pompeii/
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Title: Re: Taste of history
Post by tallowood on Sep 28th, 2024 at 2:37pm

John_Taverner wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 11:16am:
Great thread!

ISICIA OMENTATA (a kind of Ancient Roman Burger)

(Apicius. 2, 1, 7)

Ingredients:
------------
500g  minced meat
1     french roll, soaked in white wine
1/2   tsp freshly ground pepper
50ml  Liquamen (can be replaced by 1/2 tsp salt + a little white wine)
some stone-pine kernels and green peppercorns
a little Caroenum (reduced grape juice - reduce to 3/4 volume on a gentle heat)

Baking foil

Instructions:
-------------
Mix minced meat with the soaked french roll. Ground spices and mix into
the meat. Form small burgers and put pine kernels and peppercorns into
them. Put them into baking foil and grill them together with Caroenum.

(Actually the closest thing to Liquamen would be Thai fish sauce)


Interesting and seems to be simple, I'll have a go at it next week.

Note:

Quote:
  french roll, soaked in white wine


I made burgers similar to that before but soaked bread in milk instead of wine.

Artichokes as a side looks good.
Are the green leaves on the photo meant?
If so meat is likely to be lamb ot mutton.

Title: Re: Taste of history
Post by Jovial Monk on Sep 28th, 2024 at 4:05pm
French roll—baguette or croissant?

Title: Re: Taste of history
Post by RussiAnVetEraN on Sep 28th, 2024 at 4:10pm
If you want to learn about Russia in this regard, then you should refer to the Domostroi book (it has been translated into English).


The "Domostroi": Rules for Russian Households in the Time of Ivan the Terrible

A manual on household management, the Domostroi is one of the few sources on the social history and secular life of Russia in the time of Ivan the Terrible. It depicts a society that prized religious orthodoxy, reliance on tradition, and absolute subordination of the individual to the family and the state. Specific instructions tell how to arrange hay, visit monasteries, distill vodka, treat servants, entertain clergy, cut out robes, and carry out many other daily activities. Carolyn Johnston Pouncy here offers, with an informative introduction, the first complete English translation.




Title: Re: Taste of history
Post by tallowood on Sep 28th, 2024 at 4:38pm



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Russian spice cookies or honey bread have been made since the 9th century, originally with rye flour, honey, and berry juice. Over time, other natural ingredients were added to the mix, but it wasn't until trade began with the Middle East and India in the 12th and 13th centuries that spices were added. Typically, the cookies were laced with cloves, ginger, citrus fruits, pepper, nutmeg, mint, anise, ginger, and many other flavorings, giving them the name pryanosti or well-spiced.


https://www.thespruceeats.com/russian-spice-cookies-pryaniki-recipe-1137299

Title: Re: Taste of history
Post by John_Taverner on Sep 30th, 2024 at 10:55am

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 4:05pm:
French roll—baguette or croissant?


Pain de campagne. More like large dinner rolls. Crusty top.

Vietnamese Bánh mì comes pretty close, and is probably more readily available. Actually I prefer Bánh mì.

Real Liquamen was made by fermenting fish in sea water then decanting off the liquid. It smells disgusting. What I can only describe as cathartic. It probably improves with age.  We made some during an experimental archaeology session in Italy.

Title: Re: Taste of history
Post by tallowood on Sep 30th, 2024 at 11:39am

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Real Liquamen was made by fermenting fish in sea water then decanting off the liquid. It smells disgusting. What I can only describe as cathartic. It probably improves with age.


Is it something like Asian "Fish sauce"? It goes well in coconut milk based seafood dishes.

It is umami and you use only minute portion of it.

Title: President Lincoln's Favorite Meal
Post by tallowood on Oct 28th, 2024 at 4:46pm
Making President Lincoln's Favorite Meal, Chicken Fricassee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeIxDGG843I

Title: Re: Taste of history
Post by Sophia on Oct 31st, 2024 at 6:04pm
A taste of history became a taste of memory recently we were in the province Treviso (near Venice)
We went to buy these potatoes cubes with rosemary and chicken
As soon as hubby tasted the potatoes he said he remembered his nonna and mum cooking it like that!
It did feel like a special memorable moment with food right there in Italia.

Title: Re: Taste of history
Post by tallowood on Oct 31st, 2024 at 6:19pm

Sophia wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 6:04pm:
A taste of history became a taste of memory recently we were in the province Treviso (near Venice)
We went to buy these potatoes cubes with rosemary and chicken
As soon as hubby tasted the potatoes he said he remembered his nonna and mum cooking it like that!
It did feel like a special memorable moment with food right there in Italia.



That is "Gustatory memory".

Why Taste and Smell Are So Emotionally Powerful

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