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Message started by Baronvonrort on Sep 12th, 2024 at 9:14pm

Title: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Baronvonrort on Sep 12th, 2024 at 9:14pm
Labor introduced a bill which makes them the ministry of truth.


Quote:
'Attack on our freedoms': Government's revised online misinformation bill slammed as ‘chilling assault’ on free speech

Labor's new online misinformation bill has been slammed as a "chilling assault" on freedom of speech, with critics claiming the government's definition of "serious harm" could capture "any difference of opinion".

Communications Minister Michelle Rowland introduced the legislation to Parliament on Thursday, claiming misinformation and disinformation pose a “serious threat” to Australian’s  “safety and wellbeing” as well as “our democracy, society and economy”.

The Albanese government was forced to abandon a previous draft version of the laws after they were widely condemned by everyone from media organisations and tech companies to civil liberties groups and even the Australian Human Rights Commission.

But critics are already lining up to attack the bill, with the Institute of Public Affairs describing the legislation as “the single biggest attack on freedom of speech in Australia’s peacetime history”.

“Misinformation legislation introduced into federal parliament today represents a chilling assault on every Australian’s right to free speech. The new Bill broadens provisions to censor speech, which even the government’s fatally flawed first draft did not include,” said John Storey, the Director of Law and Policy at the IPA.

Free Speech Union of Australia also slammed the legislation, telling  SkyNews.com.au the legislation was an “attack on our freedoms”.

“Despite the outpouring of public concern last time around, the Government has still failed to address the key issues with it,” Free Speech Union of Australia Co-Director Dr Reuben Kirkham said.

While the bill would also create an “unelected and unaccountable star chamber bureaucracy” with the power to launch investigations and hearings to ensure compliance with censorship guidelines.

More here- https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/attack-on-our-freedoms-governments-revised-online-misinformation-bill-slammed-as-chilling-assault-on-free-speech/news-story/03f202bf41f4255fd0f7c4b4c05682fe


Their misinformation and disinformation bill should be called MAD.




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Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Baronvonrort on Sep 12th, 2024 at 9:58pm
Any leftists want to comment on this censorship attempt from Labor?

Once upon a time leftists opposed this MAD crap from governments today they have become full blown commies.

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Frank on Sep 12th, 2024 at 10:10pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 9:58pm:
Any leftists want to comment on this censorship attempt from Labor?

Once upon a time leftists opposed this MAD crap from governments today they have become full blown commies.

Indeed.

Why is that?

If something like this was introduced by Liberals, Labour in the UK, Republicans in the US, the pwoggy left would be livid, shrill and indignant.
When pwogs do it, the pwogs nod and acquiesce demurely.

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Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Sep 13th, 2024 at 12:22am
What's amazing about all this social movement these days, is that those who claim to be 'supporting' 'leftist' causes - the causes of 'feelings' and 'empathy'.... are all too often the Proto-Fascists who demand that Der Schtaat take over everything and command everyone ELSE to abide by whatever 'rules' they think they are entitled to demand.... i.e. the demand that the State create laws to uphold their ideas over the top of any and all others = Ultimate Fascism.

I've long detailed for yez all that this STYLE of government is no different in reality, whether it is 'left' or 'right' - one claiming to be a soft smarmy luvvah of the people while assuming absolute power.... the other claiming to offer 'strong guidance' from above (what's good for the boss is good for everyone)....

BOTH want to assume absolute power and control - and only the blind could not see that this has occurred over the past fifty years or so, with all this 'social change' madness that has swept the feet from under the West.... where the tolerant and accepting West now accepts anything as 'normal' - and then enforced that as a 'normality' over the top of all others.... and all while saying they are 'protecting minorities' and so forth, and thus 'creating everyone as equals'....

No - all they are doing is reducing under despotism those who actually know the difference, and who speak out against it, and who actually have the best interests of EVERYONE EQUALLY at heart.

Be advised - I sometimes say of my mad older brother that he 'had the best interest of his siblings at heart' ..... but his actual performance on the ground was that he was heartless in his puerile and futile attempts to dominate his siblings (struggling for his share of the loaf of bread we were lucky to live on - and like every asshole in history - making out he was doing it for the best good of all - look around you)....

You see - in my dysfunctional family I had great teachers... and one lesson I KNOW is how to look through what people say and only judge by what they do.....

Welcome to Reality!

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by John Smith on Sep 13th, 2024 at 8:38am
Is sky upset they won't be able to make crap up anymore? ;D ;D

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Bobby. on Sep 13th, 2024 at 8:43am

1984  George Orwell

https://www.abhafoundation.org/assets/books/html/1984/139.html

The alteration of the past is necessary for two reasons, one of which is subsidiary and, so to speak, precautionary. The subsidiary reason is that the Party member, like the proletarian, tolerates present-day conditions partly because he has no standards of comparison. He must be cut off from the past, just as he must be cut off from foreign countries, because it is necessary for him to believe that he is better off than his ancestors and that the average level of material comfort is constantly rising. But by far the more important reason for the readjustment of the past is the need to safeguard the infallibility of the Party. It is not merely that speeches, statistics, and records of every kind must be constantly brought up to date in order to show that the predictions of the Party were in all cases right. It is also that no change in doctrine or in political alignment can ever be admitted. For to change one's mind, or even one's policy, is a confession of weakness. If, for example, Eurasia or Eastasia (whichever it may be) is the enemy today, then that country must always have been the enemy. And if the facts say otherwise then the facts must be altered. Thus history is continuously rewritten. This day-to-day falsification of the past, carried out by the Ministry of Truth, is as necessary to the stability of the regime as the work of repression and espionage carried out by the Ministry of Love.


Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Yadda on Sep 13th, 2024 at 9:39am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 13th, 2024 at 12:22am:

What's amazing about all this social movement these days, is that those who claim to be 'supporting' 'leftist' causes - the causes of 'feelings' and 'empathy'.... are all too often the Proto-Fascists who demand that Der Schtaat take over everything and command everyone ELSE to abide by whatever 'rules' they think they are entitled to demand.... i.e. the demand that the State create laws to uphold their ideas over the top of any and all others = Ultimate Fascism........



.........You see - in my dysfunctional family I had great teachers... and one lesson I KNOW is how to look through what people say and only judge by what they do.....

Welcome to Reality!



Grappler,

Good post.




Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Brian Ross on Sep 14th, 2024 at 9:18pm

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Setanta on Sep 14th, 2024 at 9:21pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 9:18pm:


You should stop your niece from posting for you.

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Sep 14th, 2024 at 9:51pm

Yadda wrote on Sep 13th, 2024 at 9:39am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 13th, 2024 at 12:22am:

What's amazing about all this social movement these days, is that those who claim to be 'supporting' 'leftist' causes - the causes of 'feelings' and 'empathy'.... are all too often the Proto-Fascists who demand that Der Schtaat take over everything and command everyone ELSE to abide by whatever 'rules' they think they are entitled to demand.... i.e. the demand that the State create laws to uphold their ideas over the top of any and all others = Ultimate Fascism........



.........You see - in my dysfunctional family I had great teachers... and one lesson I KNOW is how to look through what people say and only judge by what they do.....

Welcome to Reality!



Grappler,

Good post.


Don't tell Mothra, Leftie in his new disguise, Skanka or PillPerth ... even Bwyan might think it can't possibly be a valid view coming from me...

Most people outside this mental asylum think my views are the bee's knees... but then - I don't have to poke at them or rattle their cages over their screeching that I am a racist or whatever... I can just state simple truths.

This has got to be the best fighting their bull gif I've come across... who put that speeding truck behind that cape:-



Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Baronvonrort on Sep 16th, 2024 at 5:27pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 13th, 2024 at 8:38am:
Is sky upset they won't be able to make crap up anymore? ;D ;D


You will be upset when AnAl gets booted out and you can't call Dutton a liar.

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Baronvonrort on Sep 16th, 2024 at 5:27pm
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Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Baronvonrort on Sep 16th, 2024 at 5:29pm
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Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Baronvonrort on Sep 16th, 2024 at 5:30pm
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Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by philperth2010 on Sep 16th, 2024 at 5:33pm
Most people know when something is bullshit but they are entitled to decide what they believe based on their own opinions....Media companies could just flag anything they believe is missinformation and let people decide from there....This sounds like something a Communist country would do to control the information the people can receive....It is a load of crap and should be dumped!!!

:-? :-? :-?

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Baronvonrort on Sep 16th, 2024 at 6:14pm

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 5:33pm:
Most people know when something is bullshit but they are entitled to decide what they believe based on their own opinions....Media companies could just flag anything they believe is missinformation and let people decide from there....This sounds like something a Communist country would do to control the information the people can receive....It is a load of crap and should be dumped!!!

:-? :-? :-?


The people who tell us men can get pregnant want to legislate on misinformation.

Media companies are the biggest suppliers of misinformation.



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Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by philperth2010 on Sep 16th, 2024 at 6:18pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 6:14pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 5:33pm:
Most people know when something is bullshit but they are entitled to decide what they believe based on their own opinions....Media companies could just flag anything they believe is missinformation and let people decide from there....This sounds like something a Communist country would do to control the information the people can receive....It is a load of crap and should be dumped!!!

:-? :-? :-?


The people who tell us men can get pregnant want to legislate on misinformation.

Media companies are the biggest suppliers of misinformation.


See what I mean Baron....Your Meme was complete bullshit but you have every right to post it!!!

:) :) :)


Quote:
Hydroxychloroquine doesn’t benefit hospitalized COVID-19 patients


https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/hydroxychloroquine-doesnt-benefit-hospitalized-covid-19-patients

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by lee on Sep 16th, 2024 at 6:37pm

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 6:18pm:
Quote:
Hydroxychloroquine doesn’t benefit hospitalized COVID-19 patients



only hospitalised patients?

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Baronvonrort on Sep 16th, 2024 at 6:44pm

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 6:18pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 6:14pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 5:33pm:
Most people know when something is bullshit but they are entitled to decide what they believe based on their own opinions....Media companies could just flag anything they believe is missinformation and let people decide from there....This sounds like something a Communist country would do to control the information the people can receive....It is a load of crap and should be dumped!!!

:-? :-? :-?


The people who tell us men can get pregnant want to legislate on misinformation.

Media companies are the biggest suppliers of misinformation.


See what I mean Baron....Your Meme was complete bullshit but you have every right to post it!!!

:) :) :)


Quote:
Hydroxychloroquine doesn’t benefit hospitalized COVID-19 patients


https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/hydroxychloroquine-doesnt-benefit-hospitalized-covid-19-patients



For the scientifically illiterate like you when later studies show something works they throw out earlier studies showing it doesn't.

This peer reviewed study 4 years later showed HCQ has benefits treating covid.


Quote:
Evaluation of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine for the prevention of COVID-19 (COPCOV): A double-blind, randomised, placebo-controlled trial

Published: September 12, 2024

What do these findings mean?
Although CQ or HCQ are unlikely to be used in COVID-19 prevention at this stage, they could have been deployed with benefit earlier, and they might have value in future pandemics.

https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1004428




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Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Baronvonrort on Sep 16th, 2024 at 6:46pm
Two truths cannot contradict each other.

Which one was misinformation the article when Trump was POTUS or the one when Biden was POTUS?

The later article will be the correct one.


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Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Baronvonrort on Sep 16th, 2024 at 6:55pm

Quote:
Pauline Hanson 🇦🇺
@PaulineHansonOz

The Albanese Labor Government's introduction of new misinformation and disinformation legislation is just a renewed attack on freedom of speech in Australia.

This terrible bill will be strongly opposed by
@OneNationAus!

Labor has never understood freedom of speech or how it works, and people always fear what they don’t understand.

That’s why Labor wants to shut down freedom of speech.

That’s why Labor wants to give itself the power to decide what is misinformation and disinformation, and use this power to silence honest debate and honest criticism.

Labor is appalled at the very notion that Australians still have the right to say things that Labor doesn’t agree with.

Labor doesn’t trust the Australian people to sort out truth from fiction for themselves.

With this bill, Labor shows its contempt for the intelligence of the Australian people.

Labor will use this power to silence dissent.

If you speak the truth that gender ideology is contrived nonsense, or that climate change is a scam, or that COVID-19 vaccines are harmful – Labor will have the power to silence you.

This bill is all the evidence this country needs to have a good, hard look at enshrining the right to free speech in the Constitution.

One Nation tried to move an inquiry to kick start this process.

Labor opposed it along with those other staunch opponents of free speech in Australia, the Greens.

When are Australians going to wake up and understand these parties for what they are?

They despise democracy and the principles which underpin its foundations.

There is no democracy in Australia without freedom of speech, its most important principle.

One Nation will always fight to protect true freedom of speech in our continual efforts to defend Australian democracy.

https://x.com/PaulineHansonOz/status/1835554606153384130


The parties that support free speech

Libertarian
One Nation
Clive Palmer
Liberals?

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by philperth2010 on Sep 16th, 2024 at 7:36pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 6:44pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 6:18pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 6:14pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 5:33pm:
Most people know when something is bullshit but they are entitled to decide what they believe based on their own opinions....Media companies could just flag anything they believe is missinformation and let people decide from there....This sounds like something a Communist country would do to control the information the people can receive....It is a load of crap and should be dumped!!!

:-? :-? :-?


The people who tell us men can get pregnant want to legislate on misinformation.

Media companies are the biggest suppliers of misinformation.


See what I mean Baron....Your Meme was complete bullshit but you have every right to post it!!!

:) :) :)


Quote:
Hydroxychloroquine doesn’t benefit hospitalized COVID-19 patients


https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/hydroxychloroquine-doesnt-benefit-hospitalized-covid-19-patients



For the scientifically illiterate like you when later studies show something works they throw out earlier studies showing it doesn't.

This peer reviewed study 4 years later showed HCQ has benefits treating covid.

[quote]Evaluation of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine for the prevention of COVID-19 (COPCOV): A double-blind, randomised, placebo-controlled trial

Published: September 12, 2024

What do these findings mean?
Although CQ or HCQ are unlikely to be used in COVID-19 prevention at this stage, they could have been deployed with benefit earlier, and they might have value in future pandemics.

https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1004428



[/quote]

Fair enough....Could have and might have....Very convincing....Take a few doses just to be sure!!!

::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Frank on Sep 16th, 2024 at 9:58pm
What would be the measure of truth under this legislation?

Who would decide it and how ?



Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Bobby. on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:12pm


1984  George Orwell

https://www.abhafoundation.org/assets/books/html/1984/139.html

The alteration of the past is necessary for two reasons, one of which is subsidiary and, so to speak, precautionary. The subsidiary reason is that the Party member, like the proletarian, tolerates present-day conditions partly because he has no standards of comparison. He must be cut off from the past, just as he must be cut off from foreign countries, because it is necessary for him to believe that he is better off than his ancestors and that the average level of material comfort is constantly rising. But by far the more important reason for the readjustment of the past is the need to safeguard the infallibility of the Party. It is not merely that speeches, statistics, and records of every kind must be constantly brought up to date in order to show that the predictions of the Party were in all cases right. It is also that no change in doctrine or in political alignment can ever be admitted. For to change one's mind, or even one's policy, is a confession of weakness. If, for example, Eurasia or Eastasia (whichever it may be) is the enemy today, then that country must always have been the enemy. And if the facts say otherwise then the facts must be altered. Thus history is continuously rewritten. This day-to-day falsification of the past, carried out by the Ministry of Truth, is as necessary to the stability of the regime as the work of repression and espionage carried out by the Ministry of Love.

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Brian Ross on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:28pm

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Bobby. on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:30pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:28pm:



Brian - stop trolling.   >:(

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Brian Ross on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:32pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:28pm:


Brian - stop trolling.   >:(




Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Bobby. on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:36pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:28pm:


Brian - stop trolling.   >:(






Brian - stop trolling.         >:(

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Brian Ross on Sep 17th, 2024 at 1:05pm

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Gnads on Sep 17th, 2024 at 1:31pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 1:05pm:


Imbecile

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Gnads on Sep 17th, 2024 at 1:44pm
The very title of the Bill should be enough for you to know it is a massive over reach by the Albanese Govt & should be dumped.

Ministry of Misinformation & Disinformation - what a load of tripe.

You see these sort of things set up in China, Nth Korea & Russia.

Goughs removal from office was a precedent set that is much spoken of .... but I can tell you what caused his removal was nothing compared to what Albanese is trying to jam into legislation.

The beady eyed little tyrant trying to leave a toxic legacy..... bring on June 2025.

He looks more & more like that little tyrant Emperor Hideki Tojo every day. ;D
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Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Bobby. on Sep 17th, 2024 at 1:48pm

Labor's Misinformation Bill:

A Direct Attack on Free Speech – One Nation Will Fight Back


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1JYfdw5mcM


Sep 16, 2024

The Albanese Labor Government's introduction of new misinformation and disinformation legislation is just a renewed attack on freedom of speech in Australia.

This terrible bill will be strongly opposed by One Nation.

Labor has never understood freedom of speech or how it works, and people always fear what they don’t understand.

That’s why Labor wants to shut down freedom of speech.

That’s why Labor wants to give itself the power to decide what is misinformation and disinformation, and use this power to silence honest debate and honest criticism.

Labor is appalled at the very notion that Australians still have the right to say things that Labor doesn’t agree with.

Labor doesn’t trust the Australian people to sort out truth from fiction for themselves.

With this bill, Labor shows its contempt for the intelligence of the Australian people.

Labor will use this power to silence dissent.

If you speak the truth that gender ideology is contrived nonsense, or that climate change is a scam, or that COVID-19 vaccines are harmful – Labor will have the power to silence you.

This bill is all the evidence this country needs to have a good, hard look at enshrining the right to free speech in the Constitution.

One Nation tried to move an inquiry to kick start this process.

Labor opposed it along with those other staunch opponents of free speech in Australia, the Greens.

When are Australians going to wake up and understand these parties for what they are?
They despise democracy and the principles which underpin its foundations.

There is no democracy in Australia without freedom of speech, its most important principle.

One Nation will always fight to protect true freedom of speech in our continual efforts to defend Australian democracy.

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by lee on Sep 17th, 2024 at 1:52pm

Gnads wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 1:44pm:
Ministry of Misinformation & Disinformation - what a load of tripe.


Well they could mean what the Ministry will project. ;)

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Brian Ross on Sep 17th, 2024 at 3:16pm

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by John Smith on Sep 17th, 2024 at 3:28pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 5:27pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 13th, 2024 at 8:38am:
Is sky upset they won't be able to make crap up anymore? ;D ;D


You will be upset when AnAl gets booted out and you can't call Dutton a liar.


What are the chances of Dutton speaking the truth ?... I think I'm safe

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Frank on Sep 17th, 2024 at 3:40pm
Overview of the Bill

The Communications Legislation Amendment (Combatting Misinformation and Disinformation) Bill 2024 (the Bill) amends the Broadcasting Services Act 1992 (the BSA),
and other Acts as relevant for consequential amendments and transitional provisions. It has three key objectives:

•      to empower the Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA) to require digital communications platform providers take steps to manage the risk that misinformation and disinformation on digital communications platforms poses in Australia
•      to increase transparency regarding the way in which digital communications platform providers manage misinformation and disinformation
•      to empower users of digital communications platforms to identify and respond to misinformation and disinformation on digital communications platforms.

The Bill adds a new Schedule 9 to the BSA. It imposes core obligations on digital communications platform providers to:

•      assess risks relating to misinformation and disinformation on their platforms, and publish a report of the outcomes of that assessment
•      publish their policy or policy approach in relation to managing misinformation and disinformation
•      publish a media literacy plan setting out the measures the provider will take to enable end-users of the platform to better identify misinformation and disinformation.

New Schedule 9 also empowers the ACMA to:

•      obtain information and documents relating to misinformation and disinformation from digital communications platform providers
•      make rules requiring digital communications platform providers to make and retain records relating to misinformation and disinformation, and to prepare reports consisting of information contained in those records

•      approve and register enforceable misinformation codes that have been developed by sections of the digital platforms industry, setting out the measures those sections of the industry will take to reduce the risk of misinformation and disinformation
•      in certain circumstances – for example, if misinformation codes do not adequately protect the Australian community from misinformation and disinformation, determine misinformation standards for sections of the digital platforms industry
•      make rules requiring digital communications platform providers to implement and maintain a process for handling complaints and resolving disputes about misinformation and disinformation
•      publish information relating to misinformation and disinformation.

Schedule 9 to the BSA defines misinformation and disinformation as the dissemination of content on a digital communications platform that, among other criteria, contains information that is reasonably verifiable as false, misleading or deceptive, and is reasonably likely to cause or contribute to serious harm of a specified type, with significant and far-reaching consequences for the Australian community (or a segment thereof) or severe consequences for an individual in Australia. The types of serious harm are:

•      harm to the operation or integrity of an Australian electoral process
•      harm to public health in Australia
•      vilification of a group in Australian society distinguished by race, religion, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, intersex status, disability, nationality or national or ethnic origin, or vilification of an individual because of a belief that the individual is a member of such a group
•      intentionally inflicted physical injury to an individual in Australia
•      imminent damage to critical infrastructure or disruption of emergency services in Australia
•      imminent harm to the Australian economy.

The effect of misinformation and disinformation being defined in this way is that the entirety of Schedule 9 to the BSA – including the ACMA’s regulatory powers and the core transparency obligations imposed on digital communications platform providers – is aimed specifically at addressing the risk that verifiably false, misleading or deceptive content disseminated on digital communications platforms will cause or contribute to one of these types of harm. These harms align with the purposes for which international human rights law allows restrictions to be placed on the freedom of expression.

The measures provided for in Schedule 9 focus on systems and processes, rather than the regulation of individual pieces of content. In line with this intent, there is an explicit statement in Schedule 9 to the BSA that nothing therein – or in any rule, code or standard made, approved or determined pursuant to Schedule 9 to the BSA – can require digital communications platform providers to remove content or ban an account, except in the case of disinformation that involves inauthentic behaviour.

Schedule 9 to the BSA empowers the ACMA to enforce compliance with digital platform rules, approved misinformation codes or misinformation standards, and core transparency obligations. Enforcement mechanisms available to the ACMA include formal warnings, remedial directions, infringement notices and civil penalties.
https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Fems%2Fr7239_ems_13b01a0b-4684-4e0e-b336-0028d4c0e3cd%22


Vilification: abusively disparaging speech or writing.
Disparaging: expressing the opinion that something is of little worth.

So it IS about policing opinions.  And what IS 'inauthentic behaviour"?

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Frank on Sep 17th, 2024 at 3:44pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 3:28pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 5:27pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 13th, 2024 at 8:38am:
Is sky upset they won't be able to make crap up anymore? ;D ;D


You will be upset when AnAl gets booted out and you can't call Dutton a liar.


What are the chances of Dutton speaking the truth ?... I think I'm safe

Vilifying disinformation and inauthentic online behaviour, right there.


Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Bobby. on Sep 17th, 2024 at 3:58pm


Quote:
vilification of a group in Australian society distinguished by
race, religion, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, intersex status, disability,
nationality or national or ethnic origin, or vilification of an individual because
of a belief that the individual is a member of such a group



It's Orwellian and very scary.



Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by John Smith on Sep 17th, 2024 at 3:58pm

Frank wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 3:44pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 3:28pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 5:27pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 13th, 2024 at 8:38am:
Is sky upset they won't be able to make crap up anymore? ;D ;D


You will be upset when AnAl gets booted out and you can't call Dutton a liar.


What are the chances of Dutton speaking the truth ?... I think I'm safe

Vilifying disinformation and inauthentic online behaviour, right there.



That dutton lies is fact.

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Frank on Sep 17th, 2024 at 4:02pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 3:58pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 3:44pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 3:28pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 5:27pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 13th, 2024 at 8:38am:
Is sky upset they won't be able to make crap up anymore? ;D ;D


You will be upset when AnAl gets booted out and you can't call Dutton a liar.


What are the chances of Dutton speaking the truth ?... I think I'm safe

Vilifying disinformation and inauthentic online behaviour, right there.



That dutton lies is fact.

That you peddle vilifying disinformation and display inauthentic online behaviour is a fact.


Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by John Smith on Sep 18th, 2024 at 8:40am

Frank wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 4:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 3:58pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 3:44pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 3:28pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 5:27pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 13th, 2024 at 8:38am:
Is sky upset they won't be able to make crap up anymore? ;D ;D


You will be upset when AnAl gets booted out and you can't call Dutton a liar.


What are the chances of Dutton speaking the truth ?... I think I'm safe

Vilifying disinformation and inauthentic online behaviour, right there.



That dutton lies is fact.

That you peddle vilifying disinformation and display inauthentic online behaviour is a fact.


why? Did you read about it on Breibart? ;D ;D

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Frank on Sep 18th, 2024 at 9:56am

John Smith wrote on Sep 18th, 2024 at 8:40am:

Frank wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 4:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 3:58pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 3:44pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 3:28pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 5:27pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 13th, 2024 at 8:38am:
Is sky upset they won't be able to make crap up anymore? ;D ;D


You will be upset when AnAl gets booted out and you can't call Dutton a liar.


What are the chances of Dutton speaking the truth ?... I think I'm safe

Vilifying disinformation and inauthentic online behaviour, right there.



That dutton lies is fact.

That you peddle vilifying disinformation and display inauthentic online behaviour is a fact.


why? Did you read about it on Breibart? ;D ;D

No, read it here, in your posts, thick muppet.

I posted the parliamentary explanatory notes on the Bill, thicko. You didn't understand a word of it, of course.
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1726139670/35#35



Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Baronvonrort on Sep 18th, 2024 at 11:37pm
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Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by John Smith on Sep 19th, 2024 at 9:14am

Frank wrote on Sep 18th, 2024 at 9:56am:
No, read it here, in your posts, thick muppet.


What you actually read and what you imagine you read are two different things.

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Sep 19th, 2024 at 9:47am

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 18th, 2024 at 11:37pm:
.


But he's a walking comedy line...

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Frank on Sep 20th, 2024 at 3:27pm

The latest H M A S. Album's Censorship. Or Mishipinformation.

https://youtu.be/M8Lbrls6Ios?si=7d-xc-tIlIQPN74I

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Baronvonrort on Sep 24th, 2024 at 9:42pm

Quote:
Communications Legislation Amendment (Combatting Misinformation and Disinformation) Bill 2024 [Provisions]

How to make a submission
The committee invites individuals and organisations to send in their opinions and proposals in writing (submissions)

Preparing a submission to an inquiry

Submissions close on the 30 September 2024.

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Senate/Environment_and_Communications/MisandDisinfobill


I'd strongly encourage Australians to do something they may never have done before and submit to the Senate Inquiry.  Even if it's a short paragraph expressing deep concern about what this Bill represents.

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Bobby. on Sep 24th, 2024 at 9:46pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 9:42pm:

Quote:
Communications Legislation Amendment (Combatting Misinformation and Disinformation) Bill 2024 [Provisions]

How to make a submission
The committee invites individuals and organisations to send in their opinions and proposals in writing (submissions)

Preparing a submission to an inquiry

Submissions close on the 30 September 2024.

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Senate/Environment_and_Communications/MisandDisinfobill


I'd strongly encourage Australians to do something they may never have done before and submit to the Senate Inquiry.  Even if it's a short paragraph expressing deep concern about what this Bill represents.



Big Brother won't read it -

he does whatever he wants for our own good.


Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Bobby. on Sep 26th, 2024 at 4:44pm

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Brian Ross on Sep 26th, 2024 at 9:03pm

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Bobby. on Sep 26th, 2024 at 9:14pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 9:03pm:



Brian - you're so boring.


Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 7th, 2024 at 10:49pm
While Aussies are watching US election results labor pushes their misinformation bill through parliament.

Labor and the Teals voted for it they passed it, we should vote out every politician who supported this.

AnAl says he will ban social media for those under 16 which is how he pushes his digital ID for adults who will need it to prove they're over 16 to access their social media accounts.

China has done a similar thing for internet access Labor is copying the commies.

Will these social media companies just say stuff it and withdraw from Australia?
This will this impact businesses who use social media


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Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Frank on Nov 7th, 2024 at 11:03pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 10:49pm:
While Aussies are watching US election results labor pushes their misinformation bill through parliament.

Labor and the Teals voted for it they passed it, we should vote out every politician who supported this.

AnAl says he will ban social media for those under 16 which is how he pushes his digital ID for adults who will need it to prove they're over 16 to access their social media accounts.

China has done a similar thing for internet access Labor is copying the commies.

Will these social media companies just say stuff it and withdraw from Australia?
This will this impact businesses who use social media


Ridiculous legislative nonsense. 'Lawmakers' think that the answer to anything and everything is making a law. Stupid.

You just set up a fake online persona - like on.... er... OzPol.

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 7th, 2024 at 11:10pm

Frank wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 11:03pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 10:49pm:
While Aussies are watching US election results labor pushes their misinformation bill through parliament.

Labor and the Teals voted for it they passed it, we should vote out every politician who supported this.

AnAl says he will ban social media for those under 16 which is how he pushes his digital ID for adults who will need it to prove they're over 16 to access their social media accounts.

China has done a similar thing for internet access Labor is copying the commies.

Will these social media companies just say stuff it and withdraw from Australia?
This will this impact businesses who use social media


Ridiculous legislative nonsense. 'Lawmakers' think that the answer to anything and everything is making a law. Stupid.

You just set up a fake online persona - like on.... er... OzPol.


These taxpayer funded public servants with esafety are costing us millions for stuff all.

The American Karen they hired to run esafety is on $450K a year.
Her failed lawsuits against Elon Musk have cost taxpayers millions in legal bills she has lost every case.

The government and media will be exempt from this misinforamtion nonsense and they're the worst offenders.



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Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Frank on Nov 7th, 2024 at 11:39pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 11:10pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 11:03pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 10:49pm:
While Aussies are watching US election results labor pushes their misinformation bill through parliament.

Labor and the Teals voted for it they passed it, we should vote out every politician who supported this.

AnAl says he will ban social media for those under 16 which is how he pushes his digital ID for adults who will need it to prove they're over 16 to access their social media accounts.

China has done a similar thing for internet access Labor is copying the commies.

Will these social media companies just say stuff it and withdraw from Australia?
This will this impact businesses who use social media


Ridiculous legislative nonsense. 'Lawmakers' think that the answer to anything and everything is making a law. Stupid.

You just set up a fake online persona - like on.... er... OzPol.


These taxpayer funded public servants with esafety are costing us millions for stuff all.

The American Karen they hired to run esafety is on $450K a year.
Her failed lawsuits against Elon Musk have cost taxpayers millions in legal bills she has lost every case.

The government and media will be exempt from this misinforamtion nonsense and they're the worst offenders.

Well, they didn't say 'Pakistan' so it's all above board.

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Setanta on Nov 7th, 2024 at 11:55pm

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 5:33pm:
Most people know when something is bullshit but they are entitled to decide what they believe based on their own opinions....Media companies could just flag anything they believe is missinformation and let people decide from there....This sounds like something a Communist country would do to control the information the people can receive....It is a load of crap and should be dumped!!!

:-? :-? :-?


We can agree on that at least.

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by philperth2010 on Nov 8th, 2024 at 4:14pm

Setanta wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 11:55pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 5:33pm:
Most people know when something is bullshit but they are entitled to decide what they believe based on their own opinions....Media companies could just flag anything they believe is missinformation and let people decide from there....This sounds like something a Communist country would do to control the information the people can receive....It is a load of crap and should be dumped!!!

:-? :-? :-?


We can agree on that at least.


Maybe I am wrong then???

;) ;) ;)

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Bobby. on Nov 8th, 2024 at 11:26pm
https://cairnsnews.org/2024/10/30/kuwait-forces-1-million-citizens-to-hand-over-their-biometric-data-for-digital-id/

5G, Agenda 2030, Deep State, Digital Identification

Kuwait forces 1 million citizens to hand over their biometric data for digital ID

5G, Agenda 2030, Deep State, Digital Identification


Date: October 30, 2024

Author: Editor, cairnsnews

From Armstrong Economics

Kuwait has forced over one million citizens to hand over their biometric data in one of the most extreme pushes for digital ID. Kuwait introduced a national electronic ID (eID) that they say will assist with identification verification, digital signatures, E-government access, and the secure exchange of data. The deadline to file for this mandatory program was September 30 and the consequences for failing to comply were swift.

On October 1, the Ministry of Interior announced that those who failed to submit their data would be prohibited from all electronic services such as withdrawals, transfers, and account transfers. One cannot even withdraw cash. Around 35,000 people have been blocked out of their bank accounts and are unable to even view the balance. A few weeks later, those in noncompliance has their electronic bank cards deactivated. Visa, MasterCard, and K-Net all abided by the government’s rule.

Beginning on November 1, The Kuwait Banking Association stated it will implement a “complete block” on all accounts, which means one cannot even withdraw funds if they go to the bank in person. Expatriates have until December 31 to submit their biometric registration.

The government has reported an uptick of 6,000 new registrants per day compared to 600 since they began blocking citizens from accessing their own bank accounts. The government called this a “phased approach,” believing they’ve offered leniency to the public.

The issue here is that governments globally are strapped for funds and believe that they can increase revenues by at least 35% if they hunt down their citizens for taxes. Then we have the layer of the Great Reset put forth by Klaus Schwab and the World Economic Forum that is aiming to create a One World Government complete with a global database to track absolutely everyone. Australian journalist Maria Zaric has called it a “digital prison.” Once you’re locked in, you’re locked in.

People will be less likely to speak out against the government, protest, or refuse vaccinations if they know their government can immediately exile them from society. This is more than a mere identification as it provides the government with instant access to all of your information and they will track your every movement. This is only the beginning of a massive wave of tyranny. Our computer has been warning that we have been entering into a more authoritarian mode that will reach a head in 2032.

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 8th, 2024 at 11:30pm

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Gnads on Nov 9th, 2024 at 7:06am

John Smith wrote on Sep 13th, 2024 at 8:38am:
Is sky upset they won't be able to make crap up anymore? ;D ;D


🤣 When it comes to lefty fantasies the ABC & SBS are the leaders in making shyte up and promoting it as gospel.

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Gnads on Nov 9th, 2024 at 7:16am

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:28pm:


Brian - stop trolling.   >:(




The Yawning Idiot

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Gnads on Nov 9th, 2024 at 7:21am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 3:58pm:

Quote:
vilification of a group in Australian society distinguished by
race, religion, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, intersex status, disability,
nationality or national or ethnic origin, or vilification of an individual because
of a belief that the individual is a member of such a group



It's Orwellian and very scary.


Why would we need a Ministry to oversee that when it’s already covered by 18C ?

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Bobby. on Nov 9th, 2024 at 9:36am

This is what they want to do here too:

https://cairnsnews.org/2024/10/30/kuwait-forces-1-million-citizens-to-hand-over-their-biometric-data-for-digital-id/

5G, Agenda 2030, Deep State, Digital Identification

Kuwait forces 1 million citizens to hand over their biometric data for digital ID

5G, Agenda 2030, Deep State, Digital Identification


Date: October 30, 2024

Author: Editor, cairnsnews

From Armstrong Economics

Kuwait has forced over one million citizens to hand over their biometric data in one of the most extreme pushes for digital ID. Kuwait introduced a national electronic ID (eID) that they say will assist with identification verification, digital signatures, E-government access, and the secure exchange of data. The deadline to file for this mandatory program was September 30 and the consequences for failing to comply were swift.

On October 1, the Ministry of Interior announced that those who failed to submit their data would be prohibited from all electronic services such as withdrawals, transfers, and account transfers. One cannot even withdraw cash. Around 35,000 people have been blocked out of their bank accounts and are unable to even view the balance. A few weeks later, those in noncompliance has their electronic bank cards deactivated. Visa, MasterCard, and K-Net all abided by the government’s rule.

Beginning on November 1, The Kuwait Banking Association stated it will implement a “complete block” on all accounts, which means one cannot even withdraw funds if they go to the bank in person. Expatriates have until December 31 to submit their biometric registration.

The government has reported an uptick of 6,000 new registrants per day compared to 600 since they began blocking citizens from accessing their own bank accounts. The government called this a “phased approach,” believing they’ve offered leniency to the public.

The issue here is that governments globally are strapped for funds and believe that they can increase revenues by at least 35% if they hunt down their citizens for taxes. Then we have the layer of the Great Reset put forth by Klaus Schwab and the World Economic Forum that is aiming to create a One World Government complete with a global database to track absolutely everyone. Australian journalist Maria Zaric has called it a “digital prison.” Once you’re locked in, you’re locked in.

People will be less likely to speak out against the government, protest, or refuse vaccinations if they know their government can immediately exile them from society. This is more than a mere identification as it provides the government with instant access to all of your information and they will track your every movement. This is only the beginning of a massive wave of tyranny. Our computer has been warning that we have been entering into a more authoritarian mode that will reach a head in 2032.

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by JC Denton on Nov 9th, 2024 at 10:50am
seems like it has tripartisan support and will pass

very sneaky and clever to push this one through right around the time of the u.s election, our politicians know australians are completely seppobrained at this point and care more about america than they about their own country so everybody would be distracted hyperventilating over irrelevant american sh1t to even give this a solitary thought or objection

we screwed n1gga

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 9th, 2024 at 12:39pm

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by JC Denton on Nov 9th, 2024 at 12:54pm
what are you objecting to now?

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 9th, 2024 at 1:20pm

JC Denton wrote on Nov 9th, 2024 at 12:54pm:
what are you objecting to now?


You, Your such a wally. A complete WOFTAM.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by JC Denton on Nov 9th, 2024 at 1:31pm
explain what was wrong with my post then dipsh1t

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 9th, 2024 at 3:57pm
Like most Righteingers you only support free speech when it suits you.  You like the ability to insult people with immunity. Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by JC Denton on Nov 9th, 2024 at 4:06pm
how do you know that c0ckhead? am i censoring you or trying to?

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 9th, 2024 at 6:51pm

JC Denton wrote on Nov 9th, 2024 at 4:06pm:
how do you know that c0ckhead? am i censoring you or trying to?




Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 9th, 2024 at 9:32pm
Imagine being Kevin Rudd having to explain at your first meeting with Donald Trump that the Australian Government wants to fine American social media companies 5% of their GLOBAL turnover if they don't restrict free speech and police "misinformation"

We should call AnAl Miss Information since he wants his ministry of truth
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Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Gnads on Nov 10th, 2024 at 11:15am

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 9th, 2024 at 6:51pm:

JC Denton wrote on Nov 9th, 2024 at 4:06pm:
how do you know that c0ckhead? am i censoring you or trying to?




He got you there yawning cockwomble.

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 10th, 2024 at 12:43pm

Gnads wrote on Nov 10th, 2024 at 11:15am:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 9th, 2024 at 6:51pm:

JC Denton wrote on Nov 9th, 2024 at 4:06pm:
how do you know that c0ckhead? am i censoring you or trying to?




He got you there yawning cockwomble.




Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Bobby. on Nov 10th, 2024 at 12:45pm

I hate Labor's communism -

they tell you what to think, what to feel, what to say.

Only their Party line is acceptable.

Title: Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 10th, 2024 at 1:41pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2024 at 12:45pm:
I hate Labor's communism -

they tell you what to think, what to feel, what to say.

Only their Party line is acceptable.




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