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Message started by MattE on Sep 16th, 2024 at 8:21pm

Title: Is "Your ABC" credible and trustworthy?
Post by MattE on Sep 16th, 2024 at 8:21pm
Just wondering?

And what about Mark Willacy?

Unlike the ABC, here is some brilliant reporting on Channel 7's Spotlight program:

https://youtu.be/cvjLvF5PIAE

Heston Russell is now requesting a meeting with the managing director of the ABC. If they refuse, they may have to go back to court.

Title: Re: Is "Your ABC" credible and trustworthy?
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Sep 16th, 2024 at 8:50pm
I'm guessing this is Sgt Schultz.... if so, he made a mistake, easily done when you are thinking at the speed of light and you react before you even realise you have.... I can understand... but the line between murder and wrongful death is fine there.

You remember that bloke who was shot in the head in The Killing House?  That bloke didn't intend to shoot him - but when operating on instinct in a very tight and fast-moving situation, mistakes happen.

I'm not condoning - just understanding.

I think it's time to drop all this guff.

OK - not Schultz.  Same-same.

Title: Re: Is "Your ABC" credible and trustworthy?
Post by Frank on Sep 16th, 2024 at 9:34pm
Former Australian soldier Heston Russell, who held the rank of Special Forces Major, has hit out at the ABC after the network was forced to delete doctored audio from a news report it claimed depicted Australian soldiers firing on unarmed civilians, admitting the content had been published in "error".

The network has launched an investigation into how the mistake occurred, after coming under fire from a Channel 7 investigation by current affairs program Spotlight.

Inclusion of the doctored audio made it appear as if Australian Defence Force personnel had fired six shots instead of just one.

In a lengthy statement, the ABC blamed the publication of the footage on an error, before claiming the lead journalists on the story "Jo Puccini, Mark Willacy and Josh Robertson had no role in the production and editing of the online video".

A report containing the footage has been available on the national broadcaster's website for almost two years and supported claims that Mr Russell had fired at civilians multiple times from a helicopter in 2012.
https://www.skynews.com.au/business/media/abc-forced-to-remove-footage-with-doctored-audio-it-claimed-showed-adf-member-shot-at-afghan-civilians/news-story/bdd90156de844d12cd5619a972deada4

Your ABC.  Lying.


Title: Re: Is "Your ABC" credible and trustworthy?
Post by Daves2017 on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:03pm
Asking if the ABC is credible and trustworthy is like asking if sky news is fair and balanced!

Title: Re: Is "Your ABC" credible and trustworthy?
Post by Frank on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:05pm

Daves2017 wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:03pm:
Asking if the ABC is credible and trustworthy is like asking if sky news is fair and balanced!

Sky isnt required to be fair and balanced.

The ABC is.


BIG diff.


Title: Re: Is "Your ABC" credible and trustworthy?
Post by MattE on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:13pm
It is reprehensible and unforgivable.

It is also being said the ABC went after Heston Russell by outing personal information about him such as his sexuality in the hope he would "go away" (kill himself).

The ABC is being trashed.

Mark Willacy is also (and rightly so) having to face the music. His credibility has been shredded by Channel 7 and his journalism (if he survives professionally) will always be viewed with a huge cloud over it.

I really think the ABC should stop with the activist journalism. It seems like it never ends well for them. Always in court, always losing and always costing the taxpayer a lot of money.

They always ask for budget increases. For what? For their legal defence? They should receive no extra money.

Title: Re: Is "Your ABC" credible and trustworthy?
Post by MattE on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:14pm

Daves2017 wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:03pm:
Asking if the ABC is credible and trustworthy is like asking if sky news is fair and balanced!


Sky News is a private media company.

You'll find its news to be quite balanced during the day time. In fact they have some of the best political reporters.

Of an evening they have opinion shows which are quite biased and right leaning. They aren't dishonest about it. The opinion show hosts are quite open about their political leanings.

The ABC is the PUBLIC broadcaster. It has a charter which it legally and ethically must uphold. Doctoring and making stuff up isn't part of the charter.

Title: Re: Is "Your ABC" credible and trustworthy?
Post by Bobby. on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:17pm

The ABC is our the Ministry of Truth.

1984  George Orwell

https://www.abhafoundation.org/assets/books/html/1984/139.html

The alteration of the past is necessary for two reasons, one of which is subsidiary and, so to speak, precautionary. The subsidiary reason is that the Party member, like the proletarian, tolerates present-day conditions partly because he has no standards of comparison. He must be cut off from the past, just as he must be cut off from foreign countries, because it is necessary for him to believe that he is better off than his ancestors and that the average level of material comfort is constantly rising. But by far the more important reason for the readjustment of the past is the need to safeguard the infallibility of the Party. It is not merely that speeches, statistics, and records of every kind must be constantly brought up to date in order to show that the predictions of the Party were in all cases right. It is also that no change in doctrine or in political alignment can ever be admitted. For to change one's mind, or even one's policy, is a confession of weakness. If, for example, Eurasia or Eastasia (whichever it may be) is the enemy today, then that country must always have been the enemy. And if the facts say otherwise then the facts must be altered. Thus history is continuously rewritten. This day-to-day falsification of the past, carried out by the Ministry of Truth, is as necessary to the stability of the regime as the work of repression and espionage carried out by the Ministry of Love.

Title: Re: Is "Your ABC" credible and trustworthy?
Post by Laugh till you cry on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:22pm
"Your ABC" and all MSM is a tool of government propaganda.

The media environment on the internet has opened up the opposition to US and global deep-state propaganda.

The truth is not fair and it is not balanced.

Any organization boasting it is fair and balanced is lying.

Title: Re: Is "Your ABC" credible and trustworthy?
Post by MattE on Sep 17th, 2024 at 7:30am
This wasn't just media 'bias'. The ABC doesn't get to wriggle its way out of it that easy.

This was blatant doctoring of footage to tell a totally different story as to what actually happened.

Instead of apologising and correcting the record, the ABC doubled down and attacked Heston Russell instead, even outing his sexuality which he kept private.

They're still doubling down.

Yes, they removed the footage this week. But they have had the original footage for over 18 months.

The ABC needs to be punished over this and I think the best way to punish them is by reducing their funding.

Title: Re: Is "Your ABC" credible and trustworthy?
Post by tallowood on Sep 17th, 2024 at 10:09am

Quote:
Inclusion of the doctored audio made it appear as if Australian Defence Force personnel had fired six shots instead of just one.


Disgusting.

Title: Re: Is "Your ABC" credible and trustworthy?
Post by John Smith on Sep 17th, 2024 at 10:18am

Frank wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:05pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:03pm:
Asking if the ABC is credible and trustworthy is like asking if sky news is fair and balanced!

Sky isnt required to be fair and balanced.

The ABC is.


BIG diff.



only in your mind ::)

Title: Re: Is "Your ABC" credible and trustworthy?
Post by Frank on Sep 17th, 2024 at 11:48am

John Smith wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 10:18am:

Frank wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:05pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:03pm:
Asking if the ABC is credible and trustworthy is like asking if sky news is fair and balanced!

Sky isnt required to be fair and balanced.

The ABC is.


BIG diff.



only in your mind ::)



The ABC is publicly funded statutory entity with a charter requiring political impartiality.
Sky is not. Nor the Granuiad or any other private news outlet.

BIG diff, even if you, obviously, are unable comprehend it, like you are of much else, Lotsa Short Planks.


Title: Re: Is "Your ABC" credible and trustworthy?
Post by lee on Sep 17th, 2024 at 11:48am

Frank wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 9:34pm:
Inclusion of the doctored audio made it appear as if Australian Defence Force personnel had fired six shots instead of just one.



To be fair (ahem), the ABC said that the clip was doctored after the it was made and therefore Willacy etc, should not be tarnished. However, it is incumbent upon the reporter and producer to view the final product, to determine whether it is an accurate portrayal of their documentary. How they could miss six shots instead of one is problematic.

Title: Re: Is "Your ABC" credible and trustworthy?
Post by buzzanddidj on Sep 17th, 2024 at 12:47pm

MattE wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 8:21pm:
Just wondering?

And what about Mark Willacy?

Unlike the ABC, here is some brilliant reporting on Channel 7's Spotlight program:

https://youtu.be/cvjLvF5PIAE

Heston Russell is now requesting a meeting with the managing director of the ABC. If they refuse, they may have to go back to court.



A former commando defamed by the ABC will receive more than $400,000 despite giving false evidence in court, but he shouldn’t expect an apology from the broadcaster.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/oct/24/heston-russell-abc-defamation-payout


Was he ever charged with PERGERY ?



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Title: Re: Is "Your ABC" credible and trustworthy?
Post by buzzanddidj on Sep 17th, 2024 at 1:27pm

MattE wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:14pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:03pm:
Asking if the ABC is credible and trustworthy is like asking if sky news is fair and balanced!


Sky News is a private media company.

You'll find its news to be quite balanced during the day time.

Of an evening they have opinion shows which are quite biased and right leaning.



In Victoria, we get this free to air - on the WIN TV network.

We call it "the bat-sh!t-crazy-hours"




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.I MEAN, where do FIND these people !

https://www.skynews.com.au/the-team




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Title: Re: Is "Your ABC" credible and trustworthy?
Post by thegreatdivide on Sep 17th, 2024 at 1:28pm

MattE wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 8:21pm:
Just wondering?

And what about Mark Willacy?

Unlike the ABC, here is some brilliant reporting on Channel 7's Spotlight program:

https://youtu.be/cvjLvF5PIAE

Heston Russell is now requesting a meeting with the managing director of the ABC. If they refuse, they may have to go back to court.


Heston says "I thought I was fighting for my life"

Yeh...well that's what happens in war  - you shoot people and they shoot back; war turns everyone participating in war into murderers.

The real war crimnals are the governments who refuse to institute the UN machinery necessary to "save mankind from the scourge of war" (UN Charter)




Title: Re: Is "Your ABC" credible and trustworthy?
Post by buzzanddidj on Sep 17th, 2024 at 1:34pm
While news and media consumption were at an all-time industry high, ABC News, with its heritage and trust, experienced greater audience increases than most other players, especially digital coverage. ABC News became Australia's No 1 digital news brand in January and has remained there. In March, its unique digital audience of 15.2 million – 61% of the population – was a record for any digital news brand in Australia, and ABC News digital was ranked No. 1 for audience every day from 29 February to the end of the reporting period.


https://www.transparency.gov.au/publications/communications-and-the-arts/australian-broadcasting-corporation/australian-broadcasting-corporation-annual-report-2019-20/content%2C-services-%26-communities/trusted-news-and-information








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Title: Re: Is "Your ABC" credible and trustworthy?
Post by John Smith on Sep 17th, 2024 at 1:38pm

Frank wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 11:48am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 10:18am:

Frank wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:05pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:03pm:
Asking if the ABC is credible and trustworthy is like asking if sky news is fair and balanced!

Sky isnt required to be fair and balanced.

The ABC is.


BIG diff.



only in your mind ::)



The ABC is publicly funded statutory entity with a charter requiring political impartiality.
Sky is not. Nor the Granuiad or any other private news outlet.

BIG diff, even if you, obviously, are unable comprehend it, like you are of much else, Lotsa Short Planks.


Publicly funded or not, EVERY news organisation should endeavor to report the truth. That it is privately owned and therefore can lie is a ridiculous position that the right have been pushing for decades now.

There is NO moral or ethical position the right won't trample over if it means it pushes their agenda.

Title: Re: Is "Your ABC" credible and trustworthy?
Post by Bobby. on Sep 17th, 2024 at 1:41pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 1:38pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 11:48am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 10:18am:

Frank wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:05pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:03pm:
Asking if the ABC is credible and trustworthy is like asking if sky news is fair and balanced!

Sky isnt required to be fair and balanced.

The ABC is.


BIG diff.



only in your mind ::)



The ABC is publicly funded statutory entity with a charter requiring political impartiality.
Sky is not. Nor the Granuiad or any other private news outlet.

BIG diff, even if you, obviously, are unable comprehend it, like you are of much else, Lotsa Short Planks.


Publicly funded or not, EVERY news organisation should endeavor to report the truth. That it is privately owned and therefore can lie is a ridiculous position that the right have been pushing for decades now.

There is NO moral or ethical position the right won't trample over if it means it pushes their agenda.



The ABC is a politically correct news service even
if it means grossly distorting the news.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1726482904

Title: Re: Is "Your ABC" credible and trustworthy?
Post by buzzanddidj on Sep 17th, 2024 at 1:45pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 1:28pm:

MattE wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 8:21pm:
Just wondering?

And what about Mark Willacy?

Unlike the ABC, here is some brilliant reporting on Channel 7's Spotlight program:

https://youtu.be/cvjLvF5PIAE

Heston Russell is now requesting a meeting with the managing director of the ABC. If they refuse, they may have to go back to court.


Heston says "I thought I was fighting for my life"

Yeh...well that's what happens in war  - you shoot people and they shoot back; war turns everyone participating in war into murderers.

The real war crimnals are the governments who refuse to institute the UN machinery necessary to "save mankind from the scourge of war" (UN Charter)



Being a member of the ADF, serving overseas, does not exonerate ANYONE from committing war crimes, murdering unarmed civilians - and then lying about it in court  - nor SHOULD it.




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Title: Re: Is "Your ABC" credible and trustworthy?
Post by MattE on Sep 17th, 2024 at 5:33pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 1:27pm:

MattE wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:14pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:03pm:
Asking if the ABC is credible and trustworthy is like asking if sky news is fair and balanced!


Sky News is a private media company.

You'll find its news to be quite balanced during the day time.

Of an evening they have opinion shows which are quite biased and right leaning.



In Victoria, we get this free to air - on the WIN TV network.

We call it "the bat-sh!t-crazy-hours"




.



.I MEAN, where do FIND these people !

https://www.skynews.com.au/the-team




.


Sky News Australia is also available free nationwide for anyone who owns a Samsung smart TV connected to the Internet. It is on channel 1010.

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