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Message started by Armchair_Politician on Sep 26th, 2024 at 10:17am

Title: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Armchair_Politician on Sep 26th, 2024 at 10:17am
Trump and Vance are facing criminal charges in Ohio over their deranged rhetoric involving Haitians eating peoples' pets and the chaos these unfounded lies have caused in those communities.

https://apnews.com/article/haitian-immigrants-springfield-charges-trump-vance-012af00a8677da5caed55d03e8779774

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 26th, 2024 at 10:41am

Love it   :)

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Bobby. on Sep 26th, 2024 at 10:50am

But the allegations were all true -

they are eating the pets - cats and dogs.

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by John Smith on Sep 26th, 2024 at 11:02am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 10:50am:
But the allegations were all true -

they are eating the pets - cats and dogs.




I should email them your comment so they can start extradition proceedings

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Armchair_Politician on Sep 26th, 2024 at 11:27am

John Smith wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 11:02am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 10:50am:
But the allegations were all true -

they are eating the pets - cats and dogs.




I should email them your comment so they can start extradition proceedings


Please do!  :)

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Bobby. on Sep 26th, 2024 at 11:38am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 11:27am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 11:02am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 10:50am:
But the allegations were all true -

they are eating the pets - cats and dogs.




I should email them your comment so they can start extradition proceedings


Please do!  :)



If Trump said it - it must be true -

he's a prophet, a messiah, a redeemer and a saviour.

Only he can save us all from dying in WW3.

Vote #1   Trump.

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by SadKangaroo on Sep 26th, 2024 at 11:38am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 10:50am:
But the allegations were all true -

they are eating the pets - cats and dogs.


True in the sense that someone said so on 4chan, not true in the sense there is any supporting evidence to corroborate the claim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RK4NeEXUuc

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Bobby. on Sep 26th, 2024 at 11:42am


If Haitians know no other words in English -

be assured that they all have learned how to say, "Here kitty, kitty."

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 26th, 2024 at 3:44pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 10:17am:
Trump and Vance are facing criminal charges in Ohio over their deranged rhetoric involving Haitians eating peoples' pets and the chaos these unfounded lies have caused in those communities.

https://apnews.com/article/haitian-immigrants-springfield-charges-trump-vance-012af00a8677da5caed55d03e8779774




Quote:
............  Trump and Vance, a U.S. senator from Ohio, are charged with disrupting public services, making false alarms, telecommunications harassment, aggravated menacing and complicity.
The filing asks the Clark County Municipal Court to affirm that there is probable cause and issue arrest warrants against Trump and Vance. 
“Their persistence and relentlessness, even in the face of the governor and the mayor saying this is false, that shows intent,” Chandra said. “It’s knowing, willful flouting of criminal law.”   ..............

..................  More than 30 bomb threats were directed at state and local government buildings and schools, prompting closures, the assignment of additional law enforcement protection and security cameras. Some of the city’s Haitian residents have also said they feared for their safety as public vitriol grew, and Mayor Rob Rue has received death threats.

“If it were anyone else other than Trump and Vance who had done what they’ve done — wreak havoc on Springfield, resulting in bomb threats, evacuated and closed government buildings and schools, threats to the mayor and his family — they would have been arrested by now,” Chandra said. “They are not above the law.”      ..............


yes, they caused harm.

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Frank on Sep 26th, 2024 at 6:49pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 10:17am:
Trump and Vance are facing criminal charges in Ohio over their deranged rhetoric involving Haitians eating peoples' pets and the chaos these unfounded lies have caused in those communities.

https://apnews.com/article/haitian-immigrants-springfield-charges-trump-vance-012af00a8677da5caed55d03e8779774



Charges brought by private citizens are rare, but not unheard of, in Ohio. Examples might be a grocery store charging a customer for a bounced check. State law requires a hearing to take place before the affidavit can move forward. As of Tuesday afternoon, none had been scheduled.



Do Haitians sacrifice and eat animals?

Er.... yes.

Shedding Light on Voodoo Rituals in Haiti

Warning: Some readers may find these images of animal sacrifice graphic.
https://slate.com/culture/2013/11/anthony-karen-a-photographers-look-inside-a-haitian-voodoo-ritual-photos.html


Even cats? Yes.
https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/haiti-voodoo-culture-eating-animals-humans-jack-brewer

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Frank on Sep 26th, 2024 at 6:50pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 10:17am:
Trump and Vance are facing criminal charges in Ohio over their deranged rhetoric involving Haitians eating peoples' pets and the chaos these unfounded lies have caused in those communities.

https://apnews.com/article/haitian-immigrants-springfield-charges-trump-vance-012af00a8677da5caed55d03e8779774



Charges brought by private citizens are rare, but not unheard of, in Ohio. Examples might be a grocery store charging a customer for a bounced check. State law requires a hearing to take place before the affidavit can move forward. As of Tuesday afternoon, none had been scheduled.



Do Haitians sacrifice and eat animals?

Er.... yes.

Shedding Light on Voodoo Rituals in Haiti

Warning: Some readers may find these images of animal sacrifice graphic.
https://slate.com/culture/2013/11/anthony-karen-a-photographers-look-inside-a-haitian-voodoo-ritual-photos.html


Even cats? Yes.
https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/haiti-voodoo-culture-eating-animals-humans-jack-brewer

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:01pm

Frank wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 6:50pm:
Do Haitians sacrifice and eat animals?


Do you eat animals?

Ever swallowed some pork?


Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:02pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 11:42am:
If Haitians know no other words in English -

be assured that they all have learned how to say, "Here kitty, kitty."


An eye witness account:

"9. I personally witnessed the one occasion where Mr. Trump forced the Plaintiff and a 12-year-old
female named Maria perform oral sex on Mr. Trump and witnessed his physical abuse of both minors
when they finished the act."


Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Bobby. on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:04pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 11:42am:
If Haitians know no other words in English -

be assured that they all have learned how to say, "Here kitty, kitty."


An eye witness account:

"9. I personally witnessed the one occasion where Mr. Trump forced the Plaintiff and a 12-year-old
female named Maria perform oral sex on Mr. Trump and witnessed his physical abuse of both minors
when they finished the act."



Someone tell Greggy to stop it.



Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:07pm

An eye witness account:

12. I personally witnessed Mr. Trump physically threaten the life and well-being of the Plaintiff if she
ever revealed any details of the physical and sexual abuse suffered by her at the hands of Mr. Trump.

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:13pm


Quote:
......... A grassroots immigrant advocacy group filed a complaint seeking criminal charges in Springfield, Ohio, against former President Trump and his running mate, Ohio Sen. JD Vance (R),...........

.............   alleges that Trump and Vance, by amplifying those claims, had a “direct impact” in spurring the 33 bomb threats that rocked the southwest Ohio city..............

............. alleging Trump and Vance committed seven separate offenses, including disrupting public services, making false alarms, aggravated menacing, complicity and telecommunications harassment. ................

.................. “Thirty-three bomb threats have been alleged across Springfield within the last two weeks. Hospitals, schools, universities, and government offices were all evacuated after receiving racially charged threats. Springfield government officials and their families received threats. Trump and Vance’s lies have harmed the Springfield community, and their lies have violated criminal law.” ...........

.............. “Investigation is neither needed nor requested. Despite the facts presented in the affidavit being open and notorious for the world to see, the prosecuting attorney has not yet acted to protect the community and hold Trump and Vance accountable for the harm they have instigated. Thus, the Haitian Bridge Alliance and Ms. Jozef request this Court, independently, to find probable cause based on the facts presented and issue arrest warrants for both Trump and Vance,” reads the complaint.  .......




https://thehill.com/latino/4897028-haitian-immigrants-springfield-ohio-criminal/

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Bobby. on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:22pm


Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Frank on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:26pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:13pm:

Quote:
......... A grassroots immigrant advocacy group filed a complaint seeking criminal charges in Springfield, Ohio, against former President Trump and his running mate, Ohio Sen. JD Vance (R),...........

.............   alleges that Trump and Vance, by amplifying those claims, had a “direct impact” in spurring the 33 bomb threats that rocked the southwest Ohio city..............

............. alleging Trump and Vance committed seven separate offenses, including disrupting public services, making false alarms, aggravated menacing, complicity and telecommunications harassment. ................

.................. “Thirty-three bomb threats have been alleged across Springfield within the last two weeks. Hospitals, schools, universities, and government offices were all evacuated after receiving racially charged threats. Springfield government officials and their families received threats. Trump and Vance’s lies have harmed the Springfield community, and their lies have violated criminal law.” ...........

.............. “Investigation is neither needed nor requested. Despite the facts presented in the affidavit being open and notorious for the world to see, the prosecuting attorney has not yet acted to protect the community and hold Trump and Vance accountable for the harm they have instigated. Thus, the Haitian Bridge Alliance and Ms. Jozef request this Court, independently, to find probable cause based on the facts presented and issue arrest warrants for both Trump and Vance,” reads the complaint.  .......




https://thehill.com/latino/4897028-haitian-immigrants-springfield-ohio-criminal/

They are sticking needles into little voodoo dolls as we speak...

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:27pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:22pm:


An eye witness account:

12. I personally witnessed Mr. Trump physically threaten the life and well-being of the Plaintiff if she
ever revealed any details of the physical and sexual abuse suffered by her at the hands of Mr. Trump.

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Frank on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:30pm

Quote:
Thirty-three bomb threats have been alleged across Springfield within the last two weeks. Hospitals, schools, universities, and government offices were all evacuated after receiving racially charged threats. Springfield government officials and their families received threats.


All hoaxes.

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:41pm

Frank wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:30pm:

Quote:
Thirty-three bomb threats have been alleged across Springfield within the last two weeks. Hospitals, schools, universities, and government offices were all evacuated after receiving racially charged threats. Springfield government officials and their families received threats.


All hoaxes.


That's right, folks: Frank endorses hoax bomb threats.


Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:47pm

Frank wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:30pm:

Quote:
Thirty-three bomb threats have been alleged across Springfield within the last two weeks. Hospitals, schools, universities, and government offices were all evacuated after receiving racially charged threats. Springfield government officials and their families received threats.


All hoaxes.




Quote:
.......... Thirty-three bomb threats   .......... receiving racially charged threats. Springfield government officials and their families received threats.     ........


this is what trump and vance created

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Frank on Sep 26th, 2024 at 11:04pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:47pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:30pm:

Quote:
Thirty-three bomb threats have been alleged across Springfield within the last two weeks. Hospitals, schools, universities, and government offices were all evacuated after receiving racially charged threats. Springfield government officials and their families received threats.


All hoaxes.



[quote].......... Thirty-three bomb threats   .......... receiving racially charged threats. Springfield government officials and their families received threats.     ........


this is what trump and vance created
[/quote]
So the answer is never to mention the chaos created by the large scale importation of unassimilable alien cultures, no matter how unassimilable and strange, no matter how much chaos and disruption they mean for locals. Just put up with anything and everything the woke progs foist on you because anything else is resistance  = Trump.
Got it.
Go meekly, quietly along with whatever your progressive betters force on you. That's real conservatism in an old Camry.

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Frank on Sep 26th, 2024 at 11:47pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:47pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:30pm:

Quote:
Thirty-three bomb threats have been alleged across Springfield within the last two weeks. Hospitals, schools, universities, and government offices were all evacuated after receiving racially charged threats. Springfield government officials and their families received threats.


All hoaxes.



[quote].......... Thirty-three bomb threats   .......... receiving racially charged threats. Springfield government officials and their families received threats.     ........


this is what trump and vance created
[/quote]
So the answer is never to mention the chaos created by the large scale importation of unassimilable alien cultures, no matter how unassimilable and strange, no matter how much chaos and disruption they mean for locals. Just put up with anything and everything the woke progs foist on you because anything else is resistance  = Trump.
Got it.
Go meekly, quietly along with whatever your progressive betters force on you. That's real conservatism in an old Camry.

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 27th, 2024 at 12:19am

Frank wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 11:47pm:
  ..............



he went broke running a casino

his shares are down -35.89% this month

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Frank on Sep 27th, 2024 at 12:28am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 12:19am:

Frank wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 11:47pm:
  ..............



he went broke running a casino

his shares are down -35.89% this month


In what universe is that the intelligent, Camry driving 'classic conservative '. response to :

So the answer is never to mention the chaos created by the large scale importation of unassimilable alien cultures, no matter how unassimilable and strange, no matter how much chaos and disruption they mean for locals. Just put up with anything and everything the woke progs foist on you because anything else is resistance  = Trump.
Got it.
Go meekly, quietly along with whatever your progressive betters force on you. That's real conservatism in an old Camry.


You just sound like gweggy, dnaraver, tgd , eckardt, sad, Karnal, Smiff and the other monomaniacs afflicted with TDS.



Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Frank on Sep 27th, 2024 at 12:30am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 12:19am:

Frank wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 11:47pm:
  ..............



he went broke running a casino

his shares are down -35.89% this month


In what universe is that the intelligent, Camry driving 'classic conservative '. response to :

So the answer is never to mention the chaos created by the large scale importation of unassimilable alien cultures, no matter how unassimilable and strange, no matter how much chaos and disruption they mean for locals. Just put up with anything and everything the woke progs foist on you because anything else is resistance  = Trump.
Got it.
Go meekly, quietly along with whatever your progressive betters force on you. That's real conservatism in an old Camry.


You just sound like gweggy, dnaraver, tgd , eckardt, sad, Karnal, Smiff and the other monomaniacs afflicted with TDS.



Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 27th, 2024 at 12:41am

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 12:30am:


............


he has a history of stealing from a charity, fraud, lying, sexism, racism, sexual assault, bankruptcies, verbally abusing fallen soldiers, mocking handicapped people, inciting a riot, trying to overthrow an election result.


Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by John Smith on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:10am

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 12:28am:
So the answer is never to mention the chaos created by the large scale importation of unassimilable alien cultures, no matter how unassimilable and strange, no matter how much chaos and disruption they mean for locals.



you can mention all the chaos you like dumbarse, you just don't get to make it up

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:41am

John Smith wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:10am:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 12:28am:
So the answer is never to mention the chaos created by the large scale importation of unassimilable alien cultures, no matter how unassimilable and strange, no matter how much chaos and disruption they mean for locals.



you can mention all the chaos you like dumbarse, you just don't get to make it up


and also mention it was push factors that did it.
trump thwarted a bill to get 1500 more border guards that would have helped.
The surge of immigrants has now stopped.
Biden returned more as a %age than trump did..

Final washup - it was not of Bidens doing.
trump deliberately made it worse for his own political gain
Even during it Biden did better than trump

Immigrants commit far less crimes than radical extremist right wingers.
Immigrants do the work americans won't.

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Frank on Sep 27th, 2024 at 5:19pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:41am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:10am:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 12:28am:
So the answer is never to mention the chaos created by the large scale importation of unassimilable alien cultures, no matter how unassimilable and strange, no matter how much chaos and disruption they mean for locals.



you can mention all the chaos you like dumbarse, you just don't get to make it up


and also mention it was push factors that did it.
trump thwarted a bill to get 1500 more border guards that would have helped.
The surge of immigrants has now stopped.
Biden returned more as a %age than trump did..

Final washup - it was not of Bidens doing.
trump deliberately made it worse for his own political gain
Even during it Biden did better than trump

Immigrants commit far less crimes than radical extremist right wingers.
Immigrants do the work americans won't.

;D :D :D

So the flood of millions illegal immigrants under the Biden/Harris presidency is ... er... Trump's fault.

And never mind that Trump doesn't hold any office in Congress, Senate, any government department.

Biden/Harris control all government agencies  - but everything is Trumps fault.


You guy have abandoned even the semblance of thinking, you are on an emotional roller coaster of euphoria for Kamala and blind hate for Trump, both emotions grow and divide uncontrollably, like cancer.
A sickly way to be in the world.


Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 27th, 2024 at 6:07pm

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 5:19pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:41am:
............  and also mention it was push factors that did it.
trump thwarted a bill to get 1500 more border guards that would have helped.
The surge of immigrants has now stopped.
Biden returned more as a %age than trump did..

Final washup - it was not of Bidens doing.
trump deliberately made it worse for his own political gain
Even during it Biden did better than trump

Immigrants commit far less crimes than radical extremist right wingers.
Immigrants do the work americans won't.

;D :D :D

So the flood of millions illegal immigrants under the Biden/Harris presidency is ... er... Trump's fault.

And never mind that Trump doesn't hold any office in Congress, Senate, any government department.

Biden/Harris control all government agencies  - but everything is Trumps fault.


You guy have abandoned even the semblance of thinking, you are on an emotional roller coaster of euphoria for Kamala and blind hate for Trump, both emotions grow and divide uncontrollably, like cancer.
A sickly way to be in the world.


No.
The immigrants went to the US in record numbers due to push factors.
ie, terrible conditions in their home country forced them to leave.. eg, poverty, corruption, crime.

had trump agreed on funding to employ more border guards the problem would have been less.
trump denied this despite the problems for his own political gain
There would have still been a problem.
It was not of bidens doing, he did not create it. It was moreso caused by poor governance in El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras


Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 27th, 2024 at 6:24pm

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 5:19pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:41am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:10am:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 12:28am:
So the answer is never to mention the chaos created by the large scale importation of unassimilable alien cultures, no matter how unassimilable and strange, no matter how much chaos and disruption they mean for locals.



you can mention all the chaos you like dumbarse, you just don't get to make it up


and also mention it was push factors that did it.
trump thwarted a bill to get 1500 more border guards that would have helped.
The surge of immigrants has now stopped.
Biden returned more as a %age than trump did..

Final washup - it was not of Bidens doing.
trump deliberately made it worse for his own political gain
Even during it Biden did better than trump

Immigrants commit far less crimes than radical extremist right wingers.
Immigrants do the work americans won't.

;D :D :D

So the flood of millions illegal immigrants under the Biden/Harris presidency is ... er... Trump's fault.


Yes.

Following orders from Trump, GOP kills immigration legislation

Congressional Republicans, at the behest of former president Trump, killed legislation to address the immigration crisis at the U.S.-Mexico border. The bi-partisan Senate measure was scuttled on Feb. 5, never coming up for a full vote.


Plus, he's a rapist.



Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Mattyfisk on Sep 27th, 2024 at 6:40pm

Frank wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 11:04pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:47pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 8:30pm:

Quote:
Thirty-three bomb threats have been alleged across Springfield within the last two weeks. Hospitals, schools, universities, and government offices were all evacuated after receiving racially charged threats. Springfield government officials and their families received threats.


All hoaxes.



[quote].......... Thirty-three bomb threats   .......... receiving racially charged threats. Springfield government officials and their families received threats.     ........


this is what trump and vance created

So the answer is never to mention the chaos created by the large scale importation of unassimilable alien cultures, no matter how unassimilable and strange, no matter how much chaos and disruption they mean for locals. Just put up with anything and everything the woke progs foist on you because anything else is resistance  = Trump.
Got it.
Go meekly, quietly along with whatever your progressive betters force on you. That's real conservatism in an old Camry.
[/quote]

No, dear boy, the answer is to never tell silly old fibs about eating our furry friends.

If you're going to lie, make it a howler. Say they're eating our children.

You know, they come to our countries, steal our Black jobs, rig our elections and eat the kiddies.

Despicable stuff.

You can't blame people trying to blow them up for that, now can you?

They're tinted.


Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Frank on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 6:24pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 5:19pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:41am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:10am:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 12:28am:
So the answer is never to mention the chaos created by the large scale importation of unassimilable alien cultures, no matter how unassimilable and strange, no matter how much chaos and disruption they mean for locals.



you can mention all the chaos you like dumbarse, you just don't get to make it up


and also mention it was push factors that did it.
trump thwarted a bill to get 1500 more border guards that would have helped.
The surge of immigrants has now stopped.
Biden returned more as a %age than trump did..

Final washup - it was not of Bidens doing.
trump deliberately made it worse for his own political gain
Even during it Biden did better than trump

Immigrants commit far less crimes than radical extremist right wingers.
Immigrants do the work americans won't.

;D :D :D

So the flood of millions illegal immigrants under the Biden/Harris presidency is ... er... Trump's fault.


Yes.

[url=https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/following-orders-from-trump-gop-kills-immigration-legislation[/url]

Congressional Republicans, at the behest of former president Trump, killed legislation to address the immigration crisis at the U.S.-Mexico border. The bi-partisan Senate measure was scuttled on Feb. 5, never coming up for a full vote.


Plus, he's a rapist.



:D :D :D :D

People’s World is a voice for progressive change and socialism in the United States


Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:11pm

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 6:24pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 5:19pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:41am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:10am:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 12:28am:
So the answer is never to mention the chaos created by the large scale importation of unassimilable alien cultures, no matter how unassimilable and strange, no matter how much chaos and disruption they mean for locals.



you can mention all the chaos you like dumbarse, you just don't get to make it up


and also mention it was push factors that did it.
trump thwarted a bill to get 1500 more border guards that would have helped.
The surge of immigrants has now stopped.
Biden returned more as a %age than trump did..

Final washup - it was not of Bidens doing.
trump deliberately made it worse for his own political gain
Even during it Biden did better than trump

Immigrants commit far less crimes than radical extremist right wingers.
Immigrants do the work americans won't.

;D :D :D

So the flood of millions illegal immigrants under the Biden/Harris presidency is ... er... Trump's fault.


Yes.

[url=https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/following-orders-from-trump-gop-kills-immigration-legislation[/url]

Congressional Republicans, at the behest of former president Trump, killed legislation to address the immigration crisis at the U.S.-Mexico border. The bi-partisan Senate measure was scuttled on Feb. 5, never coming up for a full vote.


Plus, he's a rapist.



:D :D :D :D

People’s World is a voice for progressive change and socialism in the United States


You're shooting the messenger.

Trump ordered the GOP to kill the bill.

This is an indisputable fact.

Why do you continue to defend this rapist and convicted criminal?


Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Frank on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:19pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:11pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 6:24pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 5:19pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:41am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:10am:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 12:28am:
So the answer is never to mention the chaos created by the large scale importation of unassimilable alien cultures, no matter how unassimilable and strange, no matter how much chaos and disruption they mean for locals.



you can mention all the chaos you like dumbarse, you just don't get to make it up


and also mention it was push factors that did it.
trump thwarted a bill to get 1500 more border guards that would have helped.
The surge of immigrants has now stopped.
Biden returned more as a %age than trump did..

Final washup - it was not of Bidens doing.
trump deliberately made it worse for his own political gain
Even during it Biden did better than trump

Immigrants commit far less crimes than radical extremist right wingers.
Immigrants do the work americans won't.

;D :D :D

So the flood of millions illegal immigrants under the Biden/Harris presidency is ... er... Trump's fault.


Yes.

[url=https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/following-orders-from-trump-gop-kills-immigration-legislation[/url]

Congressional Republicans, at the behest of former president Trump, killed legislation to address the immigration crisis at the U.S.-Mexico border. The bi-partisan Senate measure was scuttled on Feb. 5, never coming up for a full vote.


Plus, he's a rapist.



:D :D :D :D

People’s World is a voice for progressive change and socialism in the United States


You're shooting the messenger.

Trump ordered the GOP to kill the bill.

This is an indisputable fact.

Why do you continue to defend this rapist and convicted criminal?

Bollocks. You have ZERO evidence of Trump 'ordering' the Republican Congressionals anything.
You are just making up lying, emotive propaganda language as always. Same with the ridiculously named Orwellian   "People's World"  :D.

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Mattyfisk on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 6:24pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 5:19pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:41am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:10am:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 12:28am:
So the answer is never to mention the chaos created by the large scale importation of unassimilable alien cultures, no matter how unassimilable and strange, no matter how much chaos and disruption they mean for locals.



you can mention all the chaos you like dumbarse, you just don't get to make it up


and also mention it was push factors that did it.
trump thwarted a bill to get 1500 more border guards that would have helped.
The surge of immigrants has now stopped.
Biden returned more as a %age than trump did..

Final washup - it was not of Bidens doing.
trump deliberately made it worse for his own political gain
Even during it Biden did better than trump

Immigrants commit far less crimes than radical extremist right wingers.
Immigrants do the work americans won't.

;D :D :D

So the flood of millions illegal immigrants under the Biden/Harris presidency is ... er... Trump's fault.


Yes.

Following orders from Trump, GOP kills immigration legislation

Congressional Republicans, at the behest of former president Trump, killed legislation to address the immigration crisis at the U.S.-Mexico border. The bi-partisan Senate measure was scuttled on Feb. 5, never coming up for a full vote.


Yes, but Mr Trump was just having a bit of fun, Greggery, that's all.

What's he supposed to do? Sit back and watch Sleepy Joe get all the credit for stopping illegals? That's the big fella's thing.

Besides, have you heard?

Now he's trying to get Congress to shut the government down again. Yes, after his last stand-off against Crazy Nancy went south, the big fella's demanding Mike reject the next budget bill, one month out from the election. Cunning, no?

Silly old Mitch is whining about what a bad look it would be - we all knew he was a Deep State RINO traitor. Mike's sitting on the fence, as you do.

Grow some balls, Mike. You have to break a few eggs to make America great again, everybody knows that.

Let a few more illegals in, shut down the government for a bit, tell Netanyahu to keep bombing Gazans. Every little bit helps, yes?

Every day, in every way, things keep getting better and better, no?

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Mattyfisk on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:26pm

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:11pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 6:24pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 5:19pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:41am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:10am:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 12:28am:
So the answer is never to mention the chaos created by the large scale importation of unassimilable alien cultures, no matter how unassimilable and strange, no matter how much chaos and disruption they mean for locals.



you can mention all the chaos you like dumbarse, you just don't get to make it up


and also mention it was push factors that did it.
trump thwarted a bill to get 1500 more border guards that would have helped.
The surge of immigrants has now stopped.
Biden returned more as a %age than trump did..

Final washup - it was not of Bidens doing.
trump deliberately made it worse for his own political gain
Even during it Biden did better than trump

Immigrants commit far less crimes than radical extremist right wingers.
Immigrants do the work americans won't.

;D :D :D

So the flood of millions illegal immigrants under the Biden/Harris presidency is ... er... Trump's fault.


Yes.

[url=https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/following-orders-from-trump-gop-kills-immigration-legislation[/url]

Congressional Republicans, at the behest of former president Trump, killed legislation to address the immigration crisis at the U.S.-Mexico border. The bi-partisan Senate measure was scuttled on Feb. 5, never coming up for a full vote.


Plus, he's a rapist.



:D :D :D :D

People’s World is a voice for progressive change and socialism in the United States


You're shooting the messenger.

Trump ordered the GOP to kill the bill.

This is an indisputable fact.

Why do you continue to defend this rapist and convicted criminal?

Bollocks. You have ZERO evidence of Trump 'ordering' the Republican Congressionals anything.
You are just making up lying, emotive propaganda language as always. Same with the ridiculously named Orwellian   "People's World"  :D.


Good show, dear boy, is that your final answer? Lock it in?

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:32pm

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:11pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 6:24pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 5:19pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:41am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:10am:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 12:28am:
So the answer is never to mention the chaos created by the large scale importation of unassimilable alien cultures, no matter how unassimilable and strange, no matter how much chaos and disruption they mean for locals.



you can mention all the chaos you like dumbarse, you just don't get to make it up


and also mention it was push factors that did it.
trump thwarted a bill to get 1500 more border guards that would have helped.
The surge of immigrants has now stopped.
Biden returned more as a %age than trump did..

Final washup - it was not of Bidens doing.
trump deliberately made it worse for his own political gain
Even during it Biden did better than trump

Immigrants commit far less crimes than radical extremist right wingers.
Immigrants do the work americans won't.

;D :D :D

So the flood of millions illegal immigrants under the Biden/Harris presidency is ... er... Trump's fault.


Yes.

[url=https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/following-orders-from-trump-gop-kills-immigration-legislation[/url]

Congressional Republicans, at the behest of former president Trump, killed legislation to address the immigration crisis at the U.S.-Mexico border. The bi-partisan Senate measure was scuttled on Feb. 5, never coming up for a full vote.


Plus, he's a rapist.



:D :D :D :D

People’s World is a voice for progressive change and socialism in the United States


You're shooting the messenger.

Trump ordered the GOP to kill the bill.

This is an indisputable fact.

Why do you continue to defend this rapist and convicted criminal?

Bollocks. You have ...


... you over a barrel?  Yes.

Trump’s hammering of the deal, while he uses immigration as a campaign issue, and his demands that Republicans reject it won the day. On Tuesday, Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo., a member of McConnell’s leadership team and one of several prospects to replace him as leader, rejected the border bil, saying, “Americans will turn to the upcoming election to end the border crisis.”

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Frank on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:36pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:32pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:11pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 6:24pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 5:19pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:41am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:10am:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 12:28am:
So the answer is never to mention the chaos created by the large scale importation of unassimilable alien cultures, no matter how unassimilable and strange, no matter how much chaos and disruption they mean for locals.



you can mention all the chaos you like dumbarse, you just don't get to make it up


and also mention it was push factors that did it.
trump thwarted a bill to get 1500 more border guards that would have helped.
The surge of immigrants has now stopped.
Biden returned more as a %age than trump did..

Final washup - it was not of Bidens doing.
trump deliberately made it worse for his own political gain
Even during it Biden did better than trump

Immigrants commit far less crimes than radical extremist right wingers.
Immigrants do the work americans won't.

;D :D :D

So the flood of millions illegal immigrants under the Biden/Harris presidency is ... er... Trump's fault.


Yes.

[url=https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/following-orders-from-trump-gop-kills-immigration-legislation[/url]

Congressional Republicans, at the behest of former president Trump, killed legislation to address the immigration crisis at the U.S.-Mexico border. The bi-partisan Senate measure was scuttled on Feb. 5, never coming up for a full vote.


Plus, he's a rapist.



:D :D :D :D

People’s World is a voice for progressive change and socialism in the United States


You're shooting the messenger.

Trump ordered the GOP to kill the bill.

This is an indisputable fact.

Why do you continue to defend this rapist and convicted criminal?

Bollocks. You have ...


... you over a barrel?  Yes.

Trump’s hammering of the deal, while he uses immigration as a campaign issue, and his demands that Republicans reject it won the day. On Tuesday, Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo., a member of McConnell’s leadership team and one of several prospects to replace him as leader, rejected the border bil, saying, “Americans will turn to the upcoming election to end the border crisis.”

We already have a blinkered parrot (TGD) who selectively edits posts and repeats the same thing over and over and over again, regardless of what is said.

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Mattyfisk on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:55pm

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:32pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:11pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 6:24pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 5:19pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:41am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:10am:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 12:28am:
So the answer is never to mention the chaos created by the large scale importation of unassimilable alien cultures, no matter how unassimilable and strange, no matter how much chaos and disruption they mean for locals.



you can mention all the chaos you like dumbarse, you just don't get to make it up


and also mention it was push factors that did it.
trump thwarted a bill to get 1500 more border guards that would have helped.
The surge of immigrants has now stopped.
Biden returned more as a %age than trump did..

Final washup - it was not of Bidens doing.
trump deliberately made it worse for his own political gain
Even during it Biden did better than trump

Immigrants commit far less crimes than radical extremist right wingers.
Immigrants do the work americans won't.

;D :D :D

So the flood of millions illegal immigrants under the Biden/Harris presidency is ... er... Trump's fault.


Yes.

[url=https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/following-orders-from-trump-gop-kills-immigration-legislation[/url]

Congressional Republicans, at the behest of former president Trump, killed legislation to address the immigration crisis at the U.S.-Mexico border. The bi-partisan Senate measure was scuttled on Feb. 5, never coming up for a full vote.


Plus, he's a rapist.



:D :D :D :D

People’s World is a voice for progressive change and socialism in the United States


You're shooting the messenger.

Trump ordered the GOP to kill the bill.

This is an indisputable fact.

Why do you continue to defend this rapist and convicted criminal?

Bollocks. You have ...


... you over a barrel?  Yes.

Trump’s hammering of the deal, while he uses immigration as a campaign issue, and his demands that Republicans reject it won the day. On Tuesday, Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo., a member of McConnell’s leadership team and one of several prospects to replace him as leader, rejected the border bil, saying, “Americans will turn to the upcoming election to end the border crisis.”

We already have a blinkered parrot (TGD) who selectively edits posts and repeats the same thing over and over and over again, regardless of what is said.


Please use lube, Greggery. The old boy squeals ever so when he's dry.

You may wish to use the pillow to bite down on, old boy. That's what they're there for, no?

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Frank on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:58pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:55pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:32pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:11pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 6:24pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 5:19pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:41am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:10am:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 12:28am:
So the answer is never to mention the chaos created by the large scale importation of unassimilable alien cultures, no matter how unassimilable and strange, no matter how much chaos and disruption they mean for locals.



you can mention all the chaos you like dumbarse, you just don't get to make it up


and also mention it was push factors that did it.
trump thwarted a bill to get 1500 more border guards that would have helped.
The surge of immigrants has now stopped.
Biden returned more as a %age than trump did..

Final washup - it was not of Bidens doing.
trump deliberately made it worse for his own political gain
Even during it Biden did better than trump

Immigrants commit far less crimes than radical extremist right wingers.
Immigrants do the work americans won't.

;D :D :D

So the flood of millions illegal immigrants under the Biden/Harris presidency is ... er... Trump's fault.


Yes.

[url=https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/following-orders-from-trump-gop-kills-immigration-legislation[/url]

Congressional Republicans, at the behest of former president Trump, killed legislation to address the immigration crisis at the U.S.-Mexico border. The bi-partisan Senate measure was scuttled on Feb. 5, never coming up for a full vote.


Plus, he's a rapist.



:D :D :D :D

People’s World is a voice for progressive change and socialism in the United States


You're shooting the messenger.

Trump ordered the GOP to kill the bill.

This is an indisputable fact.

Why do you continue to defend this rapist and convicted criminal?

Bollocks. You have ...


... you over a barrel?  Yes.

Trump’s hammering of the deal, while he uses immigration as a campaign issue, and his demands that Republicans reject it won the day. On Tuesday, Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo., a member of McConnell’s leadership team and one of several prospects to replace him as leader, rejected the border bil, saying, “Americans will turn to the upcoming election to end the border crisis.”

We already have a blinkered parrot (TGD) who selectively edits posts and repeats the same thing over and over and over again, regardless of what is said.


Please use lube, Greggery. The old boy squeals ever so when he's dry.

You may wish to use the pillow to bite down on, old boy. That's what they're there for, no?

Deranged perverts, the pair of you.


Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 6:24pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 5:19pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:41am:
...........  and also mention it was push factors that did it.
trump thwarted a bill to get 1500 more border guards that would have helped.
The surge of immigrants has now stopped.
Biden returned more as a %age than trump did..

Final washup - it was not of Bidens doing.
trump deliberately made it worse for his own political gain
Even during it Biden did better than trump

Immigrants commit far less crimes than radical extremist right wingers.
Immigrants do the work americans won't.

;D :D :D

So the flood of millions illegal immigrants under the Biden/Harris presidency is ... er... Trump's fault.


Yes.

Following orders from Trump, GOP kills immigration legislation

Congressional Republicans, at the behest of former president Trump, killed legislation to address the immigration crisis at the U.S.-Mexico border. The bi-partisan Senate measure was scuttled on Feb. 5, never coming up for a full vote.


Plus, he's a rapist.


I believe there would have always been a problem occur. The push factors were always there.
A positive involvement by trump would have lessened the problem

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:55pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:55pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:32pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:11pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 6:24pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 5:19pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:41am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:10am:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 12:28am:
So the answer is never to mention the chaos created by the large scale importation of unassimilable alien cultures, no matter how unassimilable and strange, no matter how much chaos and disruption they mean for locals.



you can mention all the chaos you like dumbarse, you just don't get to make it up


and also mention it was push factors that did it.
trump thwarted a bill to get 1500 more border guards that would have helped.
The surge of immigrants has now stopped.
Biden returned more as a %age than trump did..

Final washup - it was not of Bidens doing.
trump deliberately made it worse for his own political gain
Even during it Biden did better than trump

Immigrants commit far less crimes than radical extremist right wingers.
Immigrants do the work americans won't.

;D :D :D

So the flood of millions illegal immigrants under the Biden/Harris presidency is ... er... Trump's fault.


Yes.

[url=https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/following-orders-from-trump-gop-kills-immigration-legislation[/url]

Congressional Republicans, at the behest of former president Trump, killed legislation to address the immigration crisis at the U.S.-Mexico border. The bi-partisan Senate measure was scuttled on Feb. 5, never coming up for a full vote.


Plus, he's a rapist.



:D :D :D :D

People’s World is a voice for progressive change and socialism in the United States


You're shooting the messenger.

Trump ordered the GOP to kill the bill.

This is an indisputable fact.

Why do you continue to defend this rapist and convicted criminal?

Bollocks. You have ...


... you over a barrel?  Yes.

Trump’s hammering of the deal, while he uses immigration as a campaign issue, and his demands that Republicans reject it won the day. On Tuesday, Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo., a member of McConnell’s leadership team and one of several prospects to replace him as leader, rejected the border bil, saying, “Americans will turn to the upcoming election to end the border crisis.”

We already have a blinkered parrot (TGD) who selectively edits posts and repeats the same thing over and over and over again, regardless of what is said.


Please use lube, Greggery. The old boy squeals ever so when he's dry.


Will do.

I think P. Diddy has some to spare.


Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Mattyfisk on Sep 28th, 2024 at 12:44am

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:55pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:55pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:32pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:11pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 7:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 6:24pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 5:19pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:41am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 8:10am:

Frank wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 12:28am:
So the answer is never to mention the chaos created by the large scale importation of unassimilable alien cultures, no matter how unassimilable and strange, no matter how much chaos and disruption they mean for locals.



you can mention all the chaos you like dumbarse, you just don't get to make it up


and also mention it was push factors that did it.
trump thwarted a bill to get 1500 more border guards that would have helped.
The surge of immigrants has now stopped.
Biden returned more as a %age than trump did..

Final washup - it was not of Bidens doing.
trump deliberately made it worse for his own political gain
Even during it Biden did better than trump

Immigrants commit far less crimes than radical extremist right wingers.
Immigrants do the work americans won't.

;D :D :D

So the flood of millions illegal immigrants under the Biden/Harris presidency is ... er... Trump's fault.


Yes.

[url=https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/following-orders-from-trump-gop-kills-immigration-legislation[/url]

Congressional Republicans, at the behest of former president Trump, killed legislation to address the immigration crisis at the U.S.-Mexico border. The bi-partisan Senate measure was scuttled on Feb. 5, never coming up for a full vote.


Plus, he's a rapist.



:D :D :D :D

People’s World is a voice for progressive change and socialism in the United States


You're shooting the messenger.

Trump ordered the GOP to kill the bill.

This is an indisputable fact.

Why do you continue to defend this rapist and convicted criminal?

Bollocks. You have ...


... you over a barrel?  Yes.

Trump’s hammering of the deal, while he uses immigration as a campaign issue, and his demands that Republicans reject it won the day. On Tuesday, Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo., a member of McConnell’s leadership team and one of several prospects to replace him as leader, rejected the border bil, saying, “Americans will turn to the upcoming election to end the border crisis.”

We already have a blinkered parrot (TGD) who selectively edits posts and repeats the same thing over and over and over again, regardless of what is said.


Please use lube, Greggery. The old boy squeals ever so when he's dry.


Will do.

I think P. Diddy has some to spare.


Isn't he the big fella's buddy? I read somewhere he said Puff was his good friend.

I could be wrong. We might need to run it past Aquascoot.

He's our resident factchecker, no?

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by mothra on Sep 28th, 2024 at 9:48am
The thing to remember is, and apologies if i'm restating what's already been said but it bears repeating, that this absolutely malignant conspiracy theory is of sheer racist design.

This 'rumour' was manufactured to push a particularly nasty, racist agenda that was entirely designed to win votes. At the terrible expense of entire communities.

And it's not the first time the very same lie has been told about migrants. We only need to think back a few years to remember the same lies being told about our South East Asian migrants.

Racist lies. Nasty, merciless racist lies.

And in the face of the absolute horror that this is, all we can do is decide what we choose to believe and what we choose to tell. And whose voice we allow ourselves to get behind.

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 28th, 2024 at 10:21am

mothra wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 9:48am:
The thing to remember is, and apologies if i'm restating what's already been said but it bears repeating, that this absolutely malignant conspiracy theory is of sheer racist design.

This 'rumour' was manufactured to push a particularly nasty, racist agenda that was entirely designed to win votes. At the terrible expense of entire communities.

And it's not the first time the very same lie has been told about migrants. We only need to think back a few years to remember the same lies being told about our South East Asian migrants.

Racist lies. Nasty, merciless racist lies.

And in the face of the absolute horror that this is, all we can do is decide what we choose to believe and what we choose to tell. And whose voice we allow ourselves to get behind.


the fanatical extremist right have no regard for anyone else.



Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by John Smith on Sep 28th, 2024 at 11:20am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 10:21am:
the fanatical extremist right have no regard for anyone else.



funny when the majority of them are bible tumpers who proclaim to spread jesus' word.

jesus would turn over in his grave if he knew.

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by mothra on Sep 28th, 2024 at 11:24am

John Smith wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 11:20am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 10:21am:
the fanatical extremist right have no regard for anyone else.



funny when the majority of them are bible tumpers who proclaim to spread jesus' word.

jesus would turn over in his grave if he knew.



Nothing i hear from any of them, nor the loudest Christians on this forum, bears any resemblance to the teachings of Jesus that i was raised with.

So much not so in fact that the diret opposite is true in most cases.

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 28th, 2024 at 12:00pm

mothra wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 11:24am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 11:20am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 10:21am:
the fanatical extremist right have no regard for anyone else.



funny when the majority of them are bible tumpers who proclaim to spread jesus' word.

jesus would turn over in his grave if he knew.



Nothing i hear from any of them, nor the loudest Christians on this forum, bears any resemblance to the teachings of Jesus that i was raised with.

So much not so in fact that the direct opposite is true in most cases.


Yep, you got it.

And, a real billionaire Christian wouldn't sell Bibles - he'd give them away.

And of course, a real Christian would know how to actually hold a bible.

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Mattyfisk on Sep 28th, 2024 at 2:04pm

mothra wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 9:48am:
The thing to remember is, and apologies if i'm restating what's already been said but it bears repeating, that this absolutely malignant conspiracy theory is of sheer racist design.

This 'rumour' was manufactured to push a particularly nasty, racist agenda that was entirely designed to win votes. At the terrible expense of entire communities.

And it's not the first time the very same lie has been told about migrants. We only need to think back a few years to remember the same lies being told about our South East Asian migrants.

Racist lies. Nasty, merciless racist lies.

And in the face of the absolute horror that this is, all we can do is decide what we choose to believe and what we choose to tell. And whose voice we allow ourselves to get behind.


Yes, Mother, but you're forgetting. None of this has been disproven.

Besides, no one's addressed the claims of cannibalism yet. The leftards don't want to go there it would seem.

Crickets chirping, no?

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Mattyfisk on Sep 28th, 2024 at 2:32pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 12:00pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 11:24am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 11:20am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 10:21am:
the fanatical extremist right have no regard for anyone else.



funny when the majority of them are bible tumpers who proclaim to spread jesus' word.

jesus would turn over in his grave if he knew.



Nothing i hear from any of them, nor the loudest Christians on this forum, bears any resemblance to the teachings of Jesus that i was raised with.

So much not so in fact that the direct opposite is true in most cases.


Yep, you got it.

And, a real billionaire Christian wouldn't sell Bibles - he'd give them away.

And of course, a real Christian would know how to actually hold a bible.


I know, Greggery, but at a price of $69 including both Testaments (Mr Trump likes them both equally), the full text of the US Constitution, the lyrics of Lee Greenwood's God Bless the USA and a dust-proof pleather cover, it's a bargain.

Imagine what they'll say at Bible Study when you turn up with an authentic Trump Bible. You'll be the envy of every parishioner in the room.

Imagine what the leftards and abortionists will say when they hear you testify or speak in tongues. Devil begone!

And, for a limited time only, you also get a set of free digital Trump playing cards. Images of Mr Trump as cowboy, spaceman, winning businessman and disco dancing playboy. You get the entire set to collect, share or swap with your friends. These could be worth a fortune in years to come, and you can download them free when you purchase your Trump Bible.

All profits from sales will go to the man who brought us Making America Great. As the big man says, we'll win so much we'll grow tired of winning.

With the Trump Bible, we'll never get tired of praying. Buy one today!

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 28th, 2024 at 3:13pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 2:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 12:00pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 11:24am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 11:20am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 10:21am:
the fanatical extremist right have no regard for anyone else.



funny when the majority of them are bible tumpers who proclaim to spread jesus' word.

jesus would turn over in his grave if he knew.



Nothing i hear from any of them, nor the loudest Christians on this forum, bears any resemblance to the teachings of Jesus that i was raised with.

So much not so in fact that the direct opposite is true in most cases.


Yep, you got it.

And, a real billionaire Christian wouldn't sell Bibles - he'd give them away.

And of course, a real Christian would know how to actually hold a bible.


I know, Greggery, but at a price of $69 including both Testaments (Mr Trump likes them both equally), the full text of the US Constitution, the lyrics of Lee Greenwood's God Bless the USA and a dust-proof pleather cover, it's a bargain.

Imagine what they'll say at Bible Study when you turn up with an authentic Trump Bible. You'll be the envy of every parishioner in the room.

Imagine what the leftards and abortionists will say when they hear you testify or speak in tongues. Devil begone!

And, for a limited time only, you also get a set of free digital Trump playing cards. Images of Mr Trump as cowboy, spaceman, winning businessman and disco dancing playboy. You get the entire set to collect, share or swap with your friends. These could be worth a fortune in years to come, and you can download them free when you purchase your Trump Bible.

All profits from sales will go to the man who brought us Making America Great. As the big man says, we'll win so much we'll grow tired of winning.

With the Trump Bible, we'll never get tired of praying. Buy one today!


The Bible means a lot to him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERUngQUCsyE

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Mattyfisk on Sep 28th, 2024 at 3:36pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 3:13pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 2:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 12:00pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 11:24am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 11:20am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 10:21am:
the fanatical extremist right have no regard for anyone else.



funny when the majority of them are bible tumpers who proclaim to spread jesus' word.

jesus would turn over in his grave if he knew.



Nothing i hear from any of them, nor the loudest Christians on this forum, bears any resemblance to the teachings of Jesus that i was raised with.

So much not so in fact that the direct opposite is true in most cases.


Yep, you got it.

And, a real billionaire Christian wouldn't sell Bibles - he'd give them away.

And of course, a real Christian would know how to actually hold a bible.


I know, Greggery, but at a price of $69 including both Testaments (Mr Trump likes them both equally), the full text of the US Constitution, the lyrics of Lee Greenwood's God Bless the USA and a dust-proof pleather cover, it's a bargain.

Imagine what they'll say at Bible Study when you turn up with an authentic Trump Bible. You'll be the envy of every parishioner in the room.

Imagine what the leftards and abortionists will say when they hear you testify or speak in tongues. Devil begone!

And, for a limited time only, you also get a set of free digital Trump playing cards. Images of Mr Trump as cowboy, spaceman, winning businessman and disco dancing playboy. You get the entire set to collect, share or swap with your friends. These could be worth a fortune in years to come, and you can download them free when you purchase your Trump Bible.

All profits from sales will go to the man who brought us Making America Great. As the big man says, we'll win so much we'll grow tired of winning.

With the Trump Bible, we'll never get tired of praying. Buy one today!


The Bible means a lot to him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERUngQUCsyE



More than that, Greggery, it's personal - like a politician's baseball team or family.

The Bible should be off-limits to the fake news, leftards. They destroy everything else, let's leave the Bible out of it, okay?

Unless you need a quick ten mil to do some urgent repairs at one of your golf clubs. Then it's all good, no?

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Frank on Dec 5th, 2024 at 11:47am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 12:41am:
he has a history of stealing from a charity, fraud, lying, sexism, racism, sexual assault, bankruptcies, verbally abusing fallen soldiers, mocking handicapped people, inciting a riot, trying to overthrow an election result.

Former ESPN personality Jemele Hill has finally made her pronouncement about the 2024 election, and it might surprise you to discover that she thinks Kamala Harris lost because of “racism” and “sexism.”

Well, maybe “surprise” isn’t the word since it was predictable that she would ascribe Harris’s loss to racism and sexism because she describes everything that ails America to racism and sexism. :'( :'(

Hill took to her podcast this week to deliver her highly anticipated analysis of the recent election.  :o

https://x.com/EricAbbenante/status/1863996936942129470



Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Brian Ross on Dec 5th, 2024 at 11:54am

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by aquascoot on Dec 5th, 2024 at 12:02pm

mothra wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 9:48am:
The thing to remember is, and apologies if i'm restating what's already been said but it bears repeating, that this absolutely malignant conspiracy theory is of sheer racist design.

This 'rumour' was manufactured to push a particularly nasty, racist agenda that was entirely designed to win votes. At the terrible expense of entire communities.

And it's not the first time the very same lie has been told about migrants. We only need to think back a few years to remember the same lies being told about our South East Asian migrants.

Racist lies. Nasty, merciless racist lies.

And in the face of the absolute horror that this is, all we can do is decide what we choose to believe and what we choose to tell. And whose voice we allow ourselves to get behind.



as karmal said we need to check the facts

trump increased his vote in latino, asian, black, muslim and YES even in peurto rican communities.

why are the left now the party of the "white supremicists"

why do the minority groups turn their backs on you?

maybe you should call them out for ingratitude (since you think you own them)  :-[ :-[ :-[

Title: Re: Trump and Vance face criminal charges
Post by Leroy on Dec 5th, 2024 at 12:04pm

Frank wrote on Dec 5th, 2024 at 11:47am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 12:41am:
he has a history of stealing from a charity, fraud, lying, sexism, racism, sexual assault, bankruptcies, verbally abusing fallen soldiers, mocking handicapped people, inciting a riot, trying to overthrow an election result.

Former ESPN personality Jemele Hill has finally made her pronouncement about the 2024 election, and it might surprise you to discover that she thinks Kamala Harris lost because of “racism” and “sexism.”

Well, maybe “surprise” isn’t the word since it was predictable that she would ascribe Harris’s loss to racism and sexism because she describes everything that ails America to racism and sexism. :'( :'(

Hill took to her podcast this week to deliver her highly anticipated analysis of the recent election.  :o


I agree with her, if the democrats didn't run on racism and sexism they may of had a chance. You can't demonize white men and expect them to vote for you.

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