I did a search for election, and every single hit related to the impending election in a foreign country, which is about as alien to Australia as is China. Is this supposed to be an Australian Politics board, or just a safe haven for pot-heads and deviants?

What gets me in particular is the focus on Youth Crime. I don't have any particular political affiliation, but how stupid do you have to be to believe that increased deterrents and early intervention will solve what is in reality a deep seated sociodemographic issue. I just don't see the average yobbo agonizing over increased deterrents.

Most of the increase in crime is (taking population into account) in South East Queensland, which has also "coincidentally" suffered a significant demographic increase, partly due to interstate migration during the worst of the COVID epidemic. This has put a significant strain on infrastructure apart from anything else.

But how do you solve the problem? There is no simple solution. It's a subject for considerable research as opposed to knee-jerk reactions on both sides of politics.

Interesting post.
Difficult problem.

Unfortunately neither side of government is intelligent enough to deal with it.

My thoughts? It’s actually the judicial system that’s failing.The government can certainly improve the process. One strike your out. Parents forced to pay all costs associated with the crime or as is normal in Qld, crimes.
Your 14 year old daughter steals a car? You as the parents pay to replace it.

It’s as simple as garnish wages and or Centrelink.

Once parents are forced to suffer for their children crimes I believe they will suddenly become more responsible for their children.

I’m not in favour of jail for under 16 for finical reasons.
Our prison are all ready full. We should not have to build new ones.
I fully support the deportation of a child and family if the child is found guilty of a crime.
If you are from overseas and your children committed a crime here his a lift to the airport and a one way ticket to the country you are from.

That’s going upset half the south east population!

Maybe two strikes and you're on the plane 'home'.... citizenship canceled.

Let's go back to my 'provisional citizenship' for a specified period of time, during which you must prove non-criminal by nature (the odd minor offence is OK) and ready to assimilate - two serious breaches mean you're on the plane - no appeals, no questions asked ...... maybe ten years provisional or a graded system like P platers - a year of intensive no crime etc;  five years of maybe a couple of spread out minors, nothing habitual or gang-related, no association with criminal gangs etc; four more years of purity and good behaviour and you can get your citizenship certificate.

Then we look at those of foreign descent born here ... now look at Denmark - they deported one Dorker for crimes and he was born there of foreign parents made citizens ... back on the plane, lort hoved, and back to The Old Country you love to claim is yours by birth and whose gutter standards you adhere to .... hvis du ikke vil være en ordentlig Dansker, så er der flyet!  (If you don't want to be a proper Dane, there's the plane).

HERE!  **flings a dead rat in the room**  This'll get yez going.....

https://www.ecq.qld.gov.au/elections/election-events/2024-state-general-election

P.S  Sydney car chase yesterday - stolen car - two 13 yo girls, a 14 yo and a 16yo boy.  Something has to be done to control kids crime - parents need to step up and in some cases 'Elders' need to as well......

What if the kids have absconded from interstate? (usually Melbourne)  There isn't a one size fits all fixit, and they are not all immigrants either.

Exactly!

Send them back where they came from!

What Eva state.

For far too long Qld has been the dumping ground of poo people from overseas or interstate.!
One strike on moving here, 3 years jail on release kicked out of the state.

Your family kicked out on the guilty verdict behind handed down.
Free tickets to the boarder any one related and if you swill dare cross over again-  three years jail and any one associated with you-
Free lift too the boarder. Cycle repeats.

Some weeds survive the strongest spray,

You got get your hands dirty and pull them out one at a time and make sure you get rid of the roots .

Otherwise you beautiful garden will be overwhelmed.

Like poo Sydney is!

**poof**  "Your wish for the future is granted, Mr Albo!  Just look at the picture below!", said the genie.... "What would you like for your remaining two wishes?"

"What about peace in the Middle East?"

"Oh.... I dunno - bit hard that one.... I'd have to take sides, you understand, being an Ali Baba thing..."

"Can we keep Julia and Brittany in Europe then?"

**poof**  "Done!!"

"Now - what about convincing everyone in Australia to accept the Voice By Stealth from the Labor States?"

"Hmmmm - I dunno .........................you reckon we could take another look at that Middle East thing?"

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South Western Sydney is probably the only place in Australia I was glad to get out of. I found that common courtesy was in short supply. Maybe it was just one bad experience. Following the bushfires in Bateman's Bay a few years ago, we almost ended up banning contractors from Sydney.  They were always the trouble makers.

Daves2017 wrote on Sep 29^th, 2024 at 6:11pm:

Send them back where they came from!

what a ridiculous comment
::)

Divide and Concur!  Secede from Brisdrain.....


Word for today:-

'consequence' (n)

a line of Greeks.

also

'concurrence' (n) (plural)

Greek rivers and streams.....

LNP trying to look tough on crime, unless it’s someone who gives a donation -


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-05/lnp-to-keep-donation-from-michael-trout-pending-court-case/104436428

What the hell is going on with you people in metropolitan cities? You yuppies would not survive a night in any town north of Maroochydore -- or west of Ipswich, for that matter.

<sarcasm> Oh, and thank you for the scraps of regional funding that your centralisation program has brought for us, since the 2022 Federal Election, Mr Albanese </sarcasm>

Daves2017 wrote on Oct 5^th, 2024 at 8:59pm:

LNP trying to look tough on crime, unless it’s someone who gives a donation - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-05/lnp-to-keep-donation-from-michael-trout-pending-court-case/104436428

Mr Dutton has a plan to tackle youth crime within the first 12 months of Mr Dutton becoming Prime Minister. Mr Dutton was a Police Commissioner until some years ago.

Just voted, very impressed with the organisation of the polling station. In and out in under 15 minutes.

I will add if it wasn’t compulsory I wouldn’t have been bothered to stop.

We have a quality independent in my area and I was always going too vote for her, I than filled out all the boxes and put labor 2nd last, Lnp dead last.

The quality of people running for government is terrible.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8641343/amp/Comrade-Anna-blasted-saying-Queensland-hospitals-people.html

You really going vote, for the bloke who enforce this labor policy  covid policy that saw children die when he was health minister under this woman  who should face murder charges after denying specialist care to children living just over the border in northern nsw?

You will never ever hear covid mention in politics.

That got it that wrong it’s all hush hush.

No!
Not forget or forgives!

Qld is coming for you labor.

Both state and federal.

With baseball bats

After I voted early, I campaigned for a couple of hours with a political party that I voted second to last on my ballot paper. I wish I did not do that. However, volunteering for the loser was an enlightening experience. His campaign information pamphlet was okay. But he seemed a bit of a wowser. The other political party campaigners told me that the candidate was a dedicated social worker. All he needed to do was to chew gum for more votes.

Daves2017 wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 1:07pm:

Just voted, very impressed with the organisation of the polling station. In and out in under 15 minutes. I will add if it wasn’t compulsory I wouldn’t have been bothered to stop. We have a quality independent in my area and I was always going too vote for her, I than filled out all the boxes and put labor 2nd last, Lnp dead last. The quality of people running for government is terrible.

Couldn't argue with you putting Labor 2nd last...

but putting the Greens above the Labor and the LNP is ridiculous.

They're the ones who you should have put last.

Independents are as useless as tits on a boar pig.

I’m sure the new member for Pittwater would disagree?
Are Teals really independent?

I’m very happy with the independent I voted for, she’s young and interested in our community rather than sliminess and crawling up the political party chain of command.

It’s a valid point about the greens,
I will consider it next time I vote

I'm wary of TEALs for a couple of reasons. 

They are yuppies with no finger on the pulse of the real world for many out there, if not most.  Election to a comfortable income to add to their existing etc will not alter that. 

They come from areas which are considered to be 'upwardly mobile' and thus the same applies.  In Pittwater I doubt they'd entertain Tent City (Suburb # XX) at all... that would startle the horses and cause acts of indecency in the public squares!!!

Being women to date, they have escaped the real lessons of life through being a Protected Species accorded Accredited Victimhood Status and thus have received endless privileges starting at pre-school, and again therefore, must inevitably remain out of touch, for all of their tenure, with the REAL issues.

Many voters will offer them The Pussy Pass, and will, unfortunately but in real life terms, think that an attractive woman can do no wrong etc.  Political recent history has shown they are AT LEAST equal sharks to men in politics and in (ab)using their privileges of office.  A pretty face can cover a host of evils and often ignorance of the realities - and I speak not as some religious fanatic - but as a realist.  The old adage that the best con persons are the very superficially attractive ones holds here, women as well as men.


Footnote:-  I went through a phase of voting for women on the basis that they should receive a 'fair go', just like our forefathers did when the 1900 referendum (think it was 1900) to give women votes (and yet, in some mysterious way, 'men' kept women down and women had to fight for the vote - snores).  I soon, following the advent of affirmative action by another name in the work I was doing at that time, along with a clear view of the mounting privileges, changed my view.  With the advent of endless rabid feminist pushes for more and more and more despite the realities of modern society, I ceased to vote for them, and now as a matter of principle, just like with Labor, I will not vote for them.

You choose your own way.

https://i.imgflip.com/97aeu1.jpg

Labor is gaining!

Not from any real talent from big teeth watshisname labor dude but more because the Lnp x Newman one term government  failure is finally being forced  get out from his smallest of small targets his hid behind and exposing himself.

And what a absolute cock he is, back behind the rock you crawled out from world be the “ what’s his name “ return to best strategy. No wonder the Lnp didn’t want him saying anything in public!

Finally hearing him making me grateful I follow my Vibe and put this dude from the Lnp dead last

No matter which one of these idiots win?

Queenslanders will be the losers!

I emailed some of the candidates to ask them if they would support what happened to Mt Warning also happening in QLD.

The Greens said they had never hear of the issue.

They AJP were strongly opposed.

No response for Labor or the LNP.

No surprise to see the libs already walking away from their election promises ... and they haven't even won yet. :D :D


Quote:

LNP leader David Crisafulli walks back election promise to resign if crime victim numbers increase under his government

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-25/david-crisafulli-walks-back-crime-victim-number-election-promise/104517750

John Smith wrote on Oct 25^th, 2024 at 4:49pm:

No surprise to see the libs already walking away from their election promises ... and they haven't even won yet. :D :D Quote: LNP leader David Crisafulli walks back election promise to resign if crime victim numbers increase under his government https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-25/david-crisafulli-walks-back-crime-victim-number-election-promise/104517750

The ABC seems to make a habit of accusing people of lying, while not quoting what they actually said.

I don't live in Queenslund - so some of you should be wondering why I take an interest in the run-down decadent shot-hole ....

The first reason is what freediver pointed out - asking the political parties their views on land grabs, development of private hunting reserves and spiritual retreats, all created by land enclosures to suit the less than 4% minority.  Only a fool would not consider that a clear and present danger to democracy of equals in this country.

The second reason is that these issues are nationwide, and therefore each state, which governments have been leading the way towards this monstrosity, must be handled one at a time.

The third reason is that my children and grand-children live there - and whatever madness is imposed on the people of Queensland by the ivory tower university of today educated twits who handle government departments there and of the type who seek election and advise governments elect there - will affect my children and grand-children and so forth.

So Grampa has drawn a line.... no more - they shall not pass.

If Labor get back in, woe betide you fools up there.... if the LNP get in - woe betide you for other reasons - but at least their ineptitude and self-entitlement and entitlement of their mates is bumbling and not a clear plan such as Labor has - to bring you all down to suit their mates, disempower you in your own country, and thus eventually subjugate you by eroding your rights and privileges in our democracy one at a time and bit by bit.

They shall not pass!

Too many people are inserting their current obsessions as the reason why the election played out the way it did.

It's much simpler than that,

https://i.imgur.com/wrXvQjN.png

https://i.imgur.com/5RMBT8f.png

So it's either the coal industry paying off the LNP, or the coal industry paying off the ALP?

Reaction from friends and family are interesting for me in Qld.

All of whom are paid up union members.

“ At least now the union will fight for me instead of protecting their job opportunities in labor “.

Said my son- a high school teacher.

It’s so very true!

freediver wrote on Oct 25^th, 2024 at 7:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 25th, 2024 at 4:49pm: No surprise to see the libs already walking away from their election promises ... and they haven't even won yet. :D :D Quote: LNP leader David Crisafulli walks back election promise to resign if crime victim numbers increase under his government https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-25/david-crisafulli-walks-back-crime-victim-number-election-promise/104517750 The ABC seems to make a habit of accusing people of lying, while not quoting what they actually said.

You projecting again FD?