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Message started by Sprintcyclist on Oct 4th, 2024 at 1:30am

Title: trumps losses
Post by Sprintcyclist on Oct 4th, 2024 at 1:30am


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..........  Judge Kuntz’s 145-page order is a sweeping indictment of the Trump Administration’s decision to terminate TPS for Haiti.  Despite having a narrowed window of time during an expedited discovery period, Plaintiffs obtained extensive evidence that the Trump Administration terminated TPS for Haiti in violation of the Administrative Procedures Act (APA) and the Equal Protection Clause of the U.S. Constitution. Although the U.S. government attempted to withhold thousands of pages of documents and ultimately submitted material discovery in camera (for Judge Kuntz’s eyes only), the information was damning.  For example, in one disclosed email exchange, a DHS official brags “African countries are toast . . . Haiti is up next.”      .........


https://www.aila.org/blog/trump-administrations-continued-discriminatory-and-unlawful-immigration-policies-toward-haiti

he tried it before , he lost before, he is lying again

Title: Re: trumps losses
Post by Sprintcyclist on Oct 4th, 2024 at 2:05am


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.........   his conviction in a New York City criminal trial on 34 counts of falsifying business records related to the notorious Stormy Daniels hush money payment          ........


https://finance.yahoo.com/news/8-trump-losses-in-a-row-and-counting-143947849.html

I don't think americans like lying losers

Title: Re: trumps losses
Post by Sprintcyclist on Oct 4th, 2024 at 2:07am


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........  The 2018 midterm elections. Voter disgust with Trump in the second year of his presidency helped Democrats flip 40 seats and recapture the House of Representatives from Trump’s Republican party. While it’s normal for the president’s party to lose ground in the midterms, exit polls in 2018 revealed unusually high levels of opposition to Trump, which fueled record turnout.        ..........



https://finance.yahoo.com/news/8-trump-losses-in-a-row-and-counting-143947849.html

lost the midterms badly

Title: Re: trumps losses
Post by Sprintcyclist on Oct 4th, 2024 at 2:12am


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.......... The 2020 presidential election. Trump was the first incumbent to lose a reelection bid since George H. W. Bush in 1992.        ............


https://finance.yahoo.com/news/8-trump-losses-in-a-row-and-counting-143947849.html

wow, so for almost 3 decades the incumbent won, then the loser trump lost

Title: Re: trumps losses
Post by Sprintcyclist on Oct 4th, 2024 at 10:08am
he lost the popular vote, twice.

Title: Re: trumps losses
Post by Sprintcyclist on Oct 4th, 2024 at 10:12am
In the 2022 midterm elections most of Trump’s choices lost, including Senate candidates Herschel Walker in Georgia, Mehmet Oz in Pennsylvania, and Blake Masters in Arizona, allowing Democrats to keep the Senate.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/8-trump-losses-in-a-row-and-counting-143947849.html

his 'support' was the death touch. If you were standing as a republican you'ld be hoping he did not know your name

Title: Re: trumps losses
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 4th, 2024 at 10:27am

Not enough storage space in the internet cloud to detail all of Trump's losses.


Title: Re: trumps losses
Post by philperth2010 on Oct 4th, 2024 at 10:40am
If Trump wins the 2024 election he will be the first convicted fellon to occupy the White House....America will have a criminal who is facing further charges for his criminal conduct as their President....Why would anyone vote for a criminal who has never accepted responsability in his entire corrupt life....Many of those who has supported Trump have been found to be corrupt or facing corruption charges trying to defend the lies and crimes of Donald Trump....A second Trump term will only increase the corruption and lies that Trump has already flagged he will commit on day one???

:-? :-? :-?

Title: Re: trumps losses
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 4th, 2024 at 10:46am

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 4th, 2024 at 10:40am:
If Trump wins the 2024 election he will be the first convicted fellon to occupy the White House....America will have a criminal who is facing further charges for his criminal conduct as their President....Why would anyone vote for a criminal who has never accepted responsability in his entire corrupt life....Many of those who has supported Trump have been found to be corrupt or facing corruption charges trying to defend the lies and crimes of Donald Trump....A second Trump term will only increase the corruption and lies that Trump has already flagged he will commit on day one???


It's a mystery.

10,000 supporters?  Sure.

50,000?  Okay.

But this rapist and convicted criminal has 70 million people who are willing to vote for him.

Cults are very strange things indeed.


Title: Re: trumps losses
Post by Sprintcyclist on Oct 4th, 2024 at 1:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 4th, 2024 at 10:46am:

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 4th, 2024 at 10:40am:
If Trump wins the 2024 election he will be the first convicted fellon to occupy the White House....America will have a criminal who is facing further charges for his criminal conduct as their President....Why would anyone vote for a criminal who has never accepted responsability in his entire corrupt life....Many of those who has supported Trump have been found to be corrupt or facing corruption charges trying to defend the lies and crimes of Donald Trump....A second Trump term will only increase the corruption and lies that Trump has already flagged he will commit on day one???


It's a mystery.

10,000 supporters?  Sure.

50,000?  Okay.

But this rapist and convicted criminal has 70 million people who are willing to vote for him.

Cults are very strange things indeed.


cults are addictive and powerful.
for people who have underachieved in their own lives a tendency to adhere to conspiracy theories removes the responsibility of that failure.
the us has been in decline (esp for poor undereducated people) for some time.
Trump says what they want to hear, reinforces their beliefs, he is their tv star, is good for a laugh and ensures they do not have to think.

Title: Re: trumps losses
Post by John Smith on Oct 4th, 2024 at 2:02pm

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 4th, 2024 at 10:40am:
If Trump wins the 2024 election he will be the first convicted fellon to occupy the White House....America will have a criminal who is facing further charges for his criminal conduct as their President....Why would anyone vote for a criminal who has never accepted responsability in his entire corrupt life....Many of those who has supported Trump have been found to be corrupt or facing corruption charges trying to defend the lies and crimes of Donald Trump....A second Trump term will only increase the corruption and lies that Trump has already flagged he will commit on day one???

:-? :-? :-?



Makes you wonder about some of his supporters on here.  ::)

Title: Re: trumps losses
Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 4th, 2024 at 2:23pm

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 4th, 2024 at 10:40am:
If Trump wins the 2024 election he will be the first convicted fellon to occupy the White House....America will have a criminal who is facing further charges for his criminal conduct as their President....Why would anyone vote for a criminal who has never accepted responsability in his entire corrupt life....Many of those who has supported Trump have been found to be corrupt or facing corruption charges trying to defend the lies and crimes of Donald Trump....A second Trump term will only increase the corruption and lies that Trump has already flagged he will commit on day one???

:-? :-? :-?


Why? Because Mr Trump wants to stop Nig Nogs getting in, that's why.

Look, he doesn't have to have a plan to keep them out, he just needs to say it. We don't like these people, he says, they're the worst of the worst. They pollute our streets, take our jobs and keep breeding more golliwogs. They're ugly, they talk like monkeys and they smell. Nobody wants them around, not even them.

Whitey can at least wash himself. He earns more, looks better, and he doesn't stink. He fills the room with the pleasant scent of Old Spice. His women fill the room with the pleasant aroma of freshly baked bread. They dress well, take their medication and glide through the room to top up your glass.

His kids are in their pajamas by 6pm each evening. Darkie's up all night, chattering away. They all sleep in the same room, contaminating each other. By the next morning, they're pooped.

Whitey's alive. He bounces out of bed for his 6am jog, then checks the stock market while his wifey serves him coffee. His kids line up to kiss his cheek before they bounce onto the yellow bus for school. Whitey cops a grope of the wife before he gets in the car to go to his important job. He kisses her gently so he doesn't spoil her makeup.

It's a new day in America, no?

Look, I know this is inconvenient for the leftards, but these are the facts. If the leftards want a country full of grease monkeys and ten-to-a-room shift workers, they should move under a bridge with the trolls.

The Superior Man doesn't notice inferior skin colour, it's not racist, we disagree with the very premise. The Jigaboos are just plain awful.

We will make America great again, no?


Title: Re: trumps losses
Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 4th, 2024 at 2:39pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 4th, 2024 at 1:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 4th, 2024 at 10:46am:

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 4th, 2024 at 10:40am:
If Trump wins the 2024 election he will be the first convicted fellon to occupy the White House....America will have a criminal who is facing further charges for his criminal conduct as their President....Why would anyone vote for a criminal who has never accepted responsability in his entire corrupt life....Many of those who has supported Trump have been found to be corrupt or facing corruption charges trying to defend the lies and crimes of Donald Trump....A second Trump term will only increase the corruption and lies that Trump has already flagged he will commit on day one???


It's a mystery.

10,000 supporters?  Sure.

50,000?  Okay.

But this rapist and convicted criminal has 70 million people who are willing to vote for him.

Cults are very strange things indeed.


cults are addictive and powerful.
for people who have underachieved in their own lives a tendency to adhere to conspiracy theories removes the responsibility of that failure.
the us has been in decline (esp for poor undereducated people) for some time.
Trump says what they want to hear, reinforces their beliefs, he is their tv star, is good for a laugh and ensures they do not have to think.


Thinking's overrated, Sprint. The leftards think.

The Superior Man acts.

When the Superior Man wants something done, he delegates. He's the boss, you see. The leftards have to do whatever he says

RIGGED WITCH HUNT !!!

Title: Re: trumps losses
Post by Sprintcyclist on Oct 4th, 2024 at 4:35pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 4th, 2024 at 10:46am:

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 4th, 2024 at 10:40am:
If Trump wins the 2024 election he will be the first convicted fellon to occupy the White House....America will have a criminal who is facing further charges for his criminal conduct as their President....Why would anyone vote for a criminal who has never accepted responsability in his entire corrupt life....Many of those who has supported Trump have been found to be corrupt or facing corruption charges trying to defend the lies and crimes of Donald Trump....A second Trump term will only increase the corruption and lies that Trump has already flagged he will commit on day one???


It's a mystery.

10,000 supporters?  Sure.

50,000?  Okay.

But this rapist and convicted criminal has 70 million people who are willing to vote for him.

Cults are very strange things indeed.



Quote:
.........   this rapist and convicted criminal has 70 million people who are willing to vote for him.    ..........
- Which bodes badly for the future of america

Title: Re: trumps losses
Post by Sprintcyclist on Oct 4th, 2024 at 6:36pm
trumps legal losses, he bought entirely all of these upon himself


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    March 7, 2024$382,000: Trump was ordered to pay £300,000 in legal fines after losing a lawsuit brought against Steele and his company Orbis Business Intelligence in the U.K. over the controversial dossier alleging Trump conspired with Russia to win the 2016 election.

Feb. 16, 2024$454.2 million: New York Judge Arthur Engoron ordered Trump and companies he controls to pay nearly a half-billion in penalties and pre-judgment interest for fraudulently misstating the value of assets on financial statements—an amount that will continue to accrue significant interest ......

Jan. 26, 2024$83.3 million: A jury ordered Trump to pay damages to writer E. Jean Carroll for defamation, after he attacked her and said she wasn’t “my type” when she accused him of sexually assaulting her in the 1990s .........

Jan. 12, 2024$392,638: Trump was ordered to pay nearly $400,000 in legal fees to The New York Times after a court tossed his lawsuit .............

May 9, 2023$5 million: A different jury ordered Trump to pay Carroll $5 million in a separate trial, which found him liable for sexual assault and defamation .......

Jan. 19, 2023$937,989.39: Trump and his attorney Alina Habba were jointly ordered to pay nearly a million dollars in sanctions over the ex-president’s lawsuit against Hillary Clinton and other Democrats, .......

Jan. 13, 2023$1.6 million: While not against him personally, the Trump Organization was sentenced to pay over a million after being found guilty for criminal tax fraud ...........




What We Don’t Know
How much more Trump will have to pay in legal fines. The former president still faces other civil cases that could result in penalties, most notably several lawsuits brought by lawmakers and Capitol police officers that are moving together in court seeking to hold Trump liable for the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the Capitol building. He also has been indicted four times on criminal charges in state and federal courts, and the charges against him all could result in hefty fines—as well as prison time—if he’s convicted. Trump could have to pay $11.2 million in his criminal cases if he were convicted on every charge against him and sentenced to pay the maximum fine.          



https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/03/08/here-are-all-the-legal-bills-trump-has-faced-since-last-year-surpassing-540-million/

Title: Re: trumps losses
Post by Frank on Oct 5th, 2024 at 5:05am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 4th, 2024 at 6:36pm:
trumps legal losses, he bought entirely all of these upon himself


Quote:
    March 7, 2024$382,000: Trump was ordered to pay £300,000 in legal fines after losing a lawsuit brought against Steele and his company Orbis Business Intelligence in the U.K. over the controversial dossier alleging Trump conspired with Russia to win the 2016 election.

Feb. 16, 2024$454.2 million: New York Judge Arthur Engoron ordered Trump and companies he controls to pay nearly a half-billion in penalties and pre-judgment interest for fraudulently misstating the value of assets on financial statements—an amount that will continue to accrue significant interest ......

Jan. 26, 2024$83.3 million: A jury ordered Trump to pay damages to writer E. Jean Carroll for defamation, after he attacked her and said she wasn’t “my type” when she accused him of sexually assaulting her in the 1990s .........

Jan. 12, 2024$392,638: Trump was ordered to pay nearly $400,000 in legal fees to The New York Times after a court tossed his lawsuit .............

May 9, 2023$5 million: A different jury ordered Trump to pay Carroll $5 million in a separate trial, which found him liable for sexual assault and defamation .......

Jan. 19, 2023$937,989.39: Trump and his attorney Alina Habba were jointly ordered to pay nearly a million dollars in sanctions over the ex-president’s lawsuit against Hillary Clinton and other Democrats, .......

Jan. 13, 2023$1.6 million: While not against him personally, the Trump Organization was sentenced to pay over a million after being found guilty for criminal tax fraud ...........




What We Don’t Know
How much more Trump will have to pay in legal fines. The former president still faces other civil cases that could result in penalties, most notably several lawsuits brought by lawmakers and Capitol police officers that are moving together in court seeking to hold Trump liable for the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the Capitol building. He also has been indicted four times on criminal charges in state and federal courts, and the charges against him all could result in hefty fines—as well as prison time—if he’s convicted. Trump could have to pay $11.2 million in his criminal cases if he were convicted on every charge against him and sentenced to pay the maximum fine.          



https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/03/08/here-are-all-the-legal-bills-trump-has-faced-since-last-year-surpassing-540-million/



It is admirable that Trump is sticking to his guns. Most people would have folded in the face of a fraction of such relentless lawfare, assassination attempts, concerted and concentrated nasty and vindictive bilge for years. He is sticking with it because, as he said to the American people, the forces behind this TDS campaign are not really after him but are after the people who vote for him. He is just in the way.

There have been candidates outside the Uniparty for decades and they were all ganged up on by the establishment Uniparty. Trump captured one half of the Uniparty and dragged them, kicking and screaming, into actual, real opposition to the Uniparty.

He, like other challengers to the Uniparty, will never be forgiven. Everything is done, including assassination attempts, to destroy him. He deserves a medal for sticking with it.
He, more than anyone else, could have walked away to his estates and golf courses and easy life. But he is sticking with it.

Vote Trump. The only sensible, hopeful, positive vote.




Title: Re: trumps losses
Post by Sprintcyclist on Oct 5th, 2024 at 11:41am

Frank wrote on Oct 5th, 2024 at 5:05am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 4th, 2024 at 6:36pm:
trumps legal losses, he bought entirely all of these upon himself


Quote:
    March 7, 2024$382,000: Trump was ordered to pay £300,000 in legal fines after losing a lawsuit brought against Steele and his company Orbis Business Intelligence in the U.K. over the controversial dossier alleging Trump conspired with Russia to win the 2016 election.

Feb. 16, 2024$454.2 million: New York Judge Arthur Engoron ordered Trump and companiest ......

Jan. 26, 2024$83.3 million: A jury ordered Trump to pay damages to writer E. Jean Carroll for defamation,  .........

Jan. 12, 2024$392,638: Trump was ordered to pay nearly $400,000 in legal fees to The New York Times after a court tossed his lawsuit .............

May 9, 2023$5 million: A different jury ordered Trump to pay Carroll $5 million in a separate trial, which found him liable for sexual assault and defamation .......

Jan. 19, 2023$937,989.39: Trump and his attorney Alina Habba were jointly ordered to pay nearly a million dollars in sanctions  .......

Jan. 13, 2023$1.6 million: While not against him personally, the Trump Organization was sentenced to pay over a million after being found guilty for criminal tax fraud ...........




What We Don’t Know
How much more Trump will have to pay in legal fines. The former president still faces other civil cases that could result in penalties, most notably several lawsuits brought by lawmakers and Capitol police officers that are moving together in court seeking to hold Trump liable for the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the Capitol building. He also has been indicted four times on criminal charges in state and federal courts...............         



https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/03/08/here-are-all-the-legal-bills-trump-has-faced-since-last-year-surpassing-540-million/



It is admirable that Trump is sticking to his guns. Most people would have folded in the face of a fraction of such relentless lawfare, assassination attempts, concerted and concentrated nasty and vindictive bilge for years. He is sticking with it because, as he said to the American people, the forces behind this TDS campaign are not really after him but are after the people who vote for him. He is just in the way.

There have been candidates outside the Uniparty for decades and they were all ganged up on by the establishment Uniparty. Trump captured one half of the Uniparty and dragged them, kicking and screaming, into actual, real opposition to the Uniparty.

He, like other challengers to the Uniparty, will never be forgiven. Everything is done, including assassination attempts, to destroy him. He deserves a medal for sticking with it.
He, more than anyone else, could have walked away to his estates and golf courses and easy life. But he is sticking with it.

Vote Trump. The only sensible, hopeful, positive vote.


' ..........  but are after the people who vote for him. He is just in the way ....... ' you are just parroting his conspiracy lies

' ....... trump. The only sensible, hopeful, positive vote. ..... ' he is the most negative, erratic, conspiracy riddled person.
Many judges have said that about him and his crowd.

' ............. It is admirable that Trump is sticking to his guns. ....'
it is his narcissistic nature and what his mentor taught him. his mentor was  Roy Cohn.


Quote:
........  One of Donald Trump’s most important mentors, one of the most reviled men in American political history, is about to have another moment.

Roy Cohn, who has been described by people who knew him as “a snake,” “a scoundrel” and “a new strain of son of a bitch,” is the subject of a new documentary out this week from producer and director Matt Tyrnauer. It’s an occasion to once again look at Cohn and ask how much of him and his “savage,” “abrasive” and “amoral” behavior is visible in the behavior of the current president.      .........


https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/09/19/roy-cohn-donald-trump-documentary-228144/

Title: Re: trumps losses
Post by John Smith on Oct 5th, 2024 at 11:58am

Frank wrote on Oct 5th, 2024 at 5:05am:
It is admirable that Trump is sticking to his guns


there is a huge difference between 'sticking to your guns' and just outright lying and having a 4 year tantrum. Trump 'sticks to his guns' because he is incapable of telling the truth.

Title: Re: trumps losses
Post by Sprintcyclist on Oct 5th, 2024 at 3:04pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 5th, 2024 at 11:58am:

Frank wrote on Oct 5th, 2024 at 5:05am:
It is admirable that Trump is sticking to his guns


there is a huge difference between 'sticking to your guns' and just outright lying and having a 4 year tantrum. Trump 'sticks to his guns' because he is incapable of telling the truth.


it's what roy cohn taught trump


Quote:
........  “The first rule is attack, attack, attack,” Cohn says. “Rule two, admit nothing, deny everything… Rule three: no matter what happens, you claim victory and never admit defeat. You have to be willing to do anything to anyone to win.”    .......


https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/the-apprentice-trailer-donald-trump-roy-cohn-1235098600/

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