We have lots of leftists supporting fundamental muslims with Hamas Hezbollah and the Islamic regime in Iran.

The leftists socialists and communists supported the Islamic revolution in 1979 in Iran.
When Khomeini took power he had no use for these useful idiots so he executed them.

We have similar things happening in the west today with leftists supporting Islamists

Will the leftists listen to ex muslims or brand them Islamophobes?


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Leftists for Jihad: A Warning from History “This position of the far-left to defend Islamic extremists demonstrates a cognitive dissonance of an unbridled magnitude. As a secular Muslim Arab who has lived my entire life in the Middle East and North Africa, I find the level of convergence of the far-left in the West and the Islamists (who represent a far-right ideology) both perplexing and alarming… Most of them seem to be under the impression that Islamist acts of terror against the West and Israel only occur because of Western imperialism or support for Israel, when in fact the Islamists have been committing terrorist acts against the Arab world for centuries… It has nothing to do with Western imperialism, but, in fact, has to do with Islamist imperialism.” On October 7th 2023, the Islamic supremacists of Hamas sent scores of their men from Gaza into Israel. They proceeded to slaughter and abuse any Jews they could lay their hands on, executing children in front of their parents, gang raping and sexually mutilating young women, and proudly broadcasting all of this to the world.These atrocities have commanded unwavering support from young Western leftists, who have deluded themselves into thinking that Hamas are freedom fighters seeking to liberate Palestine from Zionist occupation, rather than jihadist fanatics seeking to annihilate the Jews and establish shari’ah. For months on end, they have marched in solidarity with whom they believe to be the Palestinian ‘resistance’. The defence of Islamic supremacists by the far-left is a textbook case of confirmation bias. To confirm their belief in Hamas as fellow anti-imperialists, Western leftists ignore or deny their religious extremism. They convince themselves that acts of religious violence are actually acts of defiance against Western imperialism. This is the same fatal mistake which has underpinned previous alliances between the far-left and the Islamic far-right. More than forty years ago in Iran, Islamists and the radical left joined forces, and the destructive consequences of that alliance provide us with crucial lessons for the present day. We will delve into those lessons here, adapting and expanding the words of the Ex-Muslim author Armin Navabi. The Black and the Red In the decades prior to 1979, Iran enjoyed significant progress in economic development, women’s rights, education, health, and other areas. Many of these positive developments, which occurred under the rulership of Reza Shah and his son Mohammad Reza Shah, provoked the fury of the Islamic clerical establishment. In tandem with this, the Shah’s repression of dissent and restriction of political freedoms galvanised restless Iranian leftists. In 1979, these two camps would combine to overthrow the Shah in an Islamic Revolution, with deadly consequences for those same leftists and the Iranian people as a whole. In the years leading up to the revolution, Iranian leftists, deeply influenced by communist theories and literature, were growing impatient. Lacking the means to mobilise a people’s revolution by themselves, they found allies in the Islamic clergy. Many mullahs, including the Ayatollah Khomeini, grew increasingly enraged with the Shah due to their progressive reforms concerning women’s rights, which contradicted Islamic law (shari’ah). Iranian leftists observed the mullahs’ fight against the Western-backed Shah, and summarily concluded that they were anti-imperialists. By uniting with the mullahs and using their vast network of mosques and popular influence, the far-left reasoned, they would be powerful enough to overthrow imperialism. Now of course, the conservative religious values of Islamic clergymen directly clash with the progressive socialist values of the far-left. Alas, cognitive bias led Iranian leftists to ignore or deny the religious fundamentalism of Khomeini and company. Thus, in forging a pact with the mullahs – which Mohammad Reza Shah famously referred to as the unholy alliance between “the black and the red” – these leftists believed that they could work together to stage a successful revolution against capitalism and colonialism. This would prove to be wishful thinking, to say the least. Before long, the far-left would be nothing more than a prop for clerical fascism, to be subsequently discarded, outlawed, and finally destroyed.

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The calamitous mistake of Iranian leftists to view Khomeini and other firebrand Islamists as anti-imperialists would only be compounded by the efforts of the sociologist Ali Shariati, who reinterpreted Islam with a strong emphasis on social justice by incorporating elements of revolutionary Marxism. Thus, leftists who previously felt compelled to ignore or deny the religious fundamentalism of the mullahs no longer had anything to fear. By merging these ideologies, Shariati was able to convince many Iranian leftists that to fight for an Islamic Republic was to fight against imperialism, and mobilise the Muslim masses (especially the youth) against the Shah dynasty. His ‘Red Shi’ism’ ideology was the single most influential doctrine that led to the revolution. The revolution succeeded. The Shahs were deposed and the Ayatollah Khomeini emerged as the leader of Iran. It didn’t take long after the triumph of the revolution, however, for leftist ideals to be cast aside. Islamist Apologia Sadegh Khalkhali, a hardline cleric and head of the Islamic Revolutionary Court after the revolution, was infamous for his harsh and often brutal judgments, including ordering the execution of hundreds of people associated with the previous regime. In some cases, Khalkhali carried out the executions himself. He quickly became known as ‘The Hanging Judge’ and was supported by the Tudeh Party, i.e. the Iranian communist party. According to the newspaper ISNA: The method of the Tudeh Party after the revolution was the same as it had been observed over many years. The Tudeh Party, when perceiving people’s demands against the financial corruption of the monarchy, quickly identified liberalism as treason and counter-revolutionary, and openly branded the provisional government as a representative of imperialism. Alongside such an approach, when it realised that Islamism was the dominant discourse in society, it presented itself as a defender of the Islamic government, even nominating Sadegh Khalkhali as the party-supported candidate in elections, and even supported the proposal of the Islamic Republic favored by Imam [Khomeini] in contrast to the Democratic Republic proposed by Mehdi Bazargan. In the grip of delusion about the Islamist movement, the Tudeh Party rationalised the mass executions as ‘anti-imperialist’ – just as today’s Western leftists rationalise the mass murder of Jews by Hamas as ‘anti-Zionist’. Noureddin Kianouri, a prominent Tudeh member, defended Khalkhali’s actions as necessary to suppress counter-revolutionary elements and supporters of the former regime. In weekly Q&A sessions held in the early days of the revolution, Kianouri said: Khalkhali has rendered valuable services in the field of suppressing counter-revolutionaries, criminals, and proponents of the former regime… With unparalleled courage, he sent several hundred of the most important figures of imperialism to the firing squad. In 1981, Iran outlawed all political parties except the Islamic Republic Party. At this point, it should have been blindingly obvious to the Tudeh Party that the black and red alliance was over, that anti-imperialism was not on the agenda, and that Iranian leftists were in danger. Instead, they kept the faith. They maintained the fantastical belief that by intensifying the anti-American aspect of the revolution and courting the support of the Soviet Union, the Islamic Republic would become more anti-imperialist. They were in for a rude awakening. The Purge In 1988, the Islamic Republic began coordinating extrajudicial mass executions of political prisoners, including members of the Tudeh Party and supporters of other leftist political groups. The main target of the killings was the Mojahedin-e-Khalq (MEK), a militant leftist group. Khomeini issued an order for their execution, referring to them as ‘moharebs’ (those who wage war against Allah) and ‘mortads’ (apostates from Islam) to justify their elimination. The Ayatollah had never wanted the help of the hell-bound atheistic Marxists, and since they had long outlived their use, it was time to get rid of them. The Islamic crocodile that Iranian leftists had so innocently and generously fed would now swallow them whole. In part, the letter read: In the Name of God, The Compassionate, the Merciful, As the treacherous Monafeqin [MEK] do not believe in Islam and what they say is out of deception and hypocrisy, and as their leaders have confessed that they have become renegades, and as they are waging war on God, and as they are engaging in classical warfare in the western, the northern and the southern fronts, and as they are collaborating with the Baathist Party of Iraq and spying for Saddam against our Muslim nation, and as they are tied to the World Arrogance, and in light of their cowardly blows to the Islamic Republic since its inception, it is decreed that those who are in prison throughout the country and remain steadfast in their support for the Monafeqin [MEK] are waging war on God and are condemned to execution. The wave of Iranian political killings in 1988 was one of the largest mass executions of the late 20th century, and one that has largely been forgotten outside of Iran or the Iranian diaspora. The exact death toll remains uncertain. Most sources agree that thousands were executed, with estimates ranging from 4,000 to 30,000 people

Link to rest of article-
https://allianceofformermuslims.com/2024/02/06/leftists-for-jihad-a-warning-from-history/

If the left think they can reason with Islamists they're delusional.

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 5^th, 2024 at 11:54pm:

Link to rest of article- https://allianceofformermuslims.com/2024/02/06/leftists-for-jihad-a-warning-from-history/ If the left think they can reason with Islamists they're delusional.

Mothra and Bbwian will yawn and cry 'wacism and 'Islamophobia'.

They are so 'educated and open minded" ( ie stupid and blinkered) that no alternative views to the ABC/Guardian line will be ever read let alone engaged with. It would b ed incomprehensible and into operable for them to think outside the blinkers, or even rationally engage and refute different views. Their only argument is simply call everything  wacist and Islamophobic if it is not in agreement with them.

The fruits of Islamic revolution

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More wisdom from the Ayatollahs

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Hamas and Hezbollah are financed by Iran

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Leftists for Jihad: A Warning from History

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA2ZJYW2FeM

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 11:11pm:

Hamas and Hezbollah are financed by Iran

Terrorist state Israel is financed by the USA.

Jinja tells Islamicat the whitey voted for Trump

https://x.com/_Islamicat/status/1854151809402593785

Death to Terrorism and Terrorists.

Israel is doing what the UN failed to do.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Oct 7^th, 2024 at 12:25am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 6th, 2024 at 11:11pm: Hamas and Hezbollah are financed by Iran Terrorist state Israel is financed by the USA.

No 2nd prizes you terrorist supporting scumbag.

The thread article is all about leftist farktards like you.

You spread the threat of terrorism exponentially.

Centuries of Moslems attacking Christianity and now they squeal unfair when a nation of Jews return and make a nation in the shape of a dagger thrust into the back and right into the center of their Islamic Empire prayer rug.

Ain't karma a hell of a thing for Moslems.😆

[...] My mistake.  Apologies.

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 8:59pm:

[...] My mistake.  Apologies.

Let's have a vote Members! ;)
Brian has just breached his ban on this Board (I'm banned from Defence Board).
Should I report this to the Gmods and have him given a Forum wide ban?
Or should I just ignore his cockup?
Just post yes or no in any manner you like... like 'hang him high's etc.

It's obvious that he tried to post-troll one of his yawns. ;)

Jasin wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 9:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 11th, 2024 at 8:59pm: [...] My mistake.  Apologies. Let's have a vote Members! ;) Brian has just breached his ban on this Board (I'm banned from Defence Board). Should I report this to the Gmods and have him given a Forum wide ban? Or should I just ignore his cockup? Just post yes or no in any manner you like... like 'hang him high's etc. It's obvious that he tried to post-troll one of his yawns. ;)

He banned me from his MRB which always puts pressure on me to
be careful not to make a post there by mistake -
as the Gmods here don't accept a mistake even with an apology -
they will still ban you for a week or more -
yet he is not banned on my MRB.

I would say that he should be forgiven if he promises not to report
either of us if we make a post on his MRB by mistake - and apologise.

Jasin wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 9:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 11th, 2024 at 8:59pm: [...] My mistake.  Apologies. Let's have a vote Members! ;) Brian has just breached his ban on this Board (I'm banned from Defence Board). Should I report this to the Gmods and have him given a Forum wide ban?

YES

He broke the rules

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 8:59pm:

[...] My mistake.  Apologies.

:D :D ;D ;D


You yawned in the wrong place, cockwomble??  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 5^th, 2024 at 11:54pm:

Link to rest of article- https://allianceofformermuslims.com/2024/02/06/leftists-for-jihad-a-warning-from-history/ If the left think they can reason with Islamists they're delusional.

Blind ideology sets up a strawman, again.

UN res 181 is not "the left", it's international law.

How to handle the Islamists' rejection of international law is the issue.

And guess who else is rejecting international law....

Bobby. wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 10:01pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 11th, 2024 at 9:19pm: Brian Ross wrote on Nov 11th, 2024 at 8:59pm: [...] My mistake.  Apologies. Let's have a vote Members! ;) Brian has just breached his ban on this Board (I'm banned from Defence Board). Should I report this to the Gmods and have him given a Forum wide ban? Or should I just ignore his cockup? Just post yes or no in any manner you like... like 'hang him high's etc. It's obvious that he tried to post-troll one of his yawns. ;) He banned me from his MRB which always puts pressure on me to be careful not to make a post there by mistake - as the Gmods here don't accept a mistake even with an apology - they will still ban you for a week or more - yet he is not banned on my MRB. I would say that he should be forgiven if he promises not to report either of us if we make a post on his MRB by mistake - and apologise.

make a deal.


https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61tmNfB-wBL._SL1200_.jpg

Looks like there is no support for Brian.
So I'll follow the rules and forward this to the Gmods.

Personally Brian. The difference between you and I (and other non troll members here) is that if I made such a mistake in the Defence Board you Dictate over. I wouldn't apologise like a beg for forgiveness.

Over to you Gmods ...please😉

Jasin wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 4:00pm:

Looks like there is no support for Brian. So I'll follow the rules and forward this to the Gmods. Personally Brian. The difference between you and I (and other non troll members here) is that if I made such a mistake in the Defence Board you Dictate over. I wouldn't apologise like a beg for forgiveness. Over to you Gmods ...please😉

Looks like we won't see him for a week or so.     :-/

Gmods have been PM'd and its now in their good time.


See how Brian's trolling has bitten back on himself.  ;D

Jasin wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 1:27pm:

Gmods have been PM'd and its now in their good time. See how Brian's trolling has bitten back on himself.  ;D

Brian sure has done some serious trolling -

over half his posts are just a yawning emoji.   ::)

Don't ban him.

We NEED a constant reminder, painful though it may be, of the stupidy and shallowness of the pwoggy left he represents.

The Lefty trolls here get themselves banned. I just give them what they want.
It's not World War 3. More like World Suicide 1.

Jasin wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 1:27pm:

Gmods have been PM'd and its now in their good time. See how Brian's trolling has bitten back on himself.  ;D

He hasn't been seen for 2 days.
Where is he?