How, with all the modern navigation equipment could the Kiwis have a hydrographic ship sink near Samoa? These ships are specifically designed and equipped to chart undersea topography. No mention of engine or other equipment failures that I’ve read. I bet the Captain loses his job.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-06/new-zealand-navy-ship-runs-aground-off-samoa-/104438052

wow - diversity, equity and inclusion. WTF?

NZ navy ship sinks while commanded by carpet muncher.


https://www.nzdf.mil.nz/assets/Uploads/Blog/Manawanui-Photo-3__FocusFillWyItMC4wOCIsIi0wLjM3IiwxMDAwLDU1MF0.jpg



https://x.com/captivedreamer7/status/1842716785541558508

Competency Crisis? New Zealand Naval ship HMNZS Manawanui runs around off Samoa and sinks -
lesbian Yvonne Gray's first command after resettling with her "wife" in NZ in 2012

https://www.contactairlandandsea.com/2024/10/06/hmnzs-manawanui-hits-reef-and-sinks-off-samoa/


https://www.contactairlandandsea.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/hmnzs_manawanui.jpg


HMNZS Manawanui hits reef and sinks off Samoa

06/10/2024

Royal New Zealand Navy Ship HMNZS Manawanui hit a reef off the southern coast of Upolu, Samoa, on Saturday evening while the ship was conducting a reef survey.

FILE PHOTO (July 2020): HMNZS Manawanui at sea for the first time under Royal New Zealand Navy Control, in the Hauraki Gulf. NZDF photo.

Photos circulating on social media today show the ship listing heavily and emitting smoke.

New Zealand Maritime Component Commander Commodore Shane Arndell said all crew and passengers from the ship were rescued in the early hours of Sunday morning.

“The 75 crew and passengers on board HMNZS Manawanui have made it to safety in Samoa and are being supported in Samoa or on supporting vessels,” Commodore Arndell said.

“The 75 left the ship in life rafts and sea boats after the ship grounded.

“New Zealand Defence Force worked closely with Maritime New Zealand’s Rescue Coordination Centre (RCCNZ) which coordinated rescue efforts.

“Several vessels responded and assisted in rescuing crew and passengers.

“A Royal New Zealand Air Force P-8A Poseidon was also deployed.”

Commodore Arndell said the incident occurred on Saturday evening while conducting a hydrographic survey 1 nautical mile from shore.

“The 75 crew and passengers began evacuating into lifeboats at 7.52 pm on Saturday 5 October,” he said.

“Rescuers battled currents and winds that were pushing the life rafts and sea boats toward the reefs, and swells made the rescue effort particularly challenging.

“We are very grateful for the assistance of everyone involved, from RCCNZ who coordinated rescue efforts, to the vessels which responded and took our crew and passengers from Manawanui to safety.

“At this stage the exact cause of the grounding is unknown and this will need further investigation.

“At 6.40am Sunday, the ship was listing heavily and smoke was visible from the ship.

At 9am it was known to have capsized and was below the surface.

“NZDF is working with authorities to understand the implications and minimise the environmental impacts.”

https://www.asiaone.com/world/new-zealand-navy-ship-sinks-samoa-all-75-onboard-safe
https://www.asiaone.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_top_image/public/original_images/Oct2024/06102024_ship%20sink_twitter.jpg

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:35pm:

wow - diversity, equity and inclusion. WTF? NZ navy ship sinks while commanded by carpet muncher. https://www.nzdf.mil.nz/assets/Uploads/Blog/Manawanui-Photo-3__FocusFillWyItMC4wOCIsIi0wLjM3IiwxMDAwLDU1MF0.jpg https://x.com/captivedreamer7/status/1842716785541558508 Competency Crisis? New Zealand Naval ship HMNZS Manawanui runs around off Samoa and sinks - lesbian Yvonne Gray's first command after resettling with her "wife" in NZ in 2012 https://www.contactairlandandsea.com/2024/10/06/hmnzs-manawanui-hits-reef-and-sinks-off-samoa/ https://www.contactairlandandsea.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/hmnzs_manawanui.jpg HMNZS Manawanui hits reef and sinks off Samoa 06/10/2024 Royal New Zealand Navy Ship HMNZS Manawanui hit a reef off the southern coast of Upolu, Samoa, on Saturday evening while the ship was conducting a reef survey. FILE PHOTO (July 2020): HMNZS Manawanui at sea for the first time under Royal New Zealand Navy Control, in the Hauraki Gulf. NZDF photo. Photos circulating on social media today show the ship listing heavily and emitting smoke. New Zealand Maritime Component Commander Commodore Shane Arndell said all crew and passengers from the ship were rescued in the early hours of Sunday morning. “The 75 crew and passengers on board HMNZS Manawanui have made it to safety in Samoa and are being supported in Samoa or on supporting vessels,” Commodore Arndell said. “The 75 left the ship in life rafts and sea boats after the ship grounded. “New Zealand Defence Force worked closely with Maritime New Zealand’s Rescue Coordination Centre (RCCNZ) which coordinated rescue efforts. “Several vessels responded and assisted in rescuing crew and passengers. “A Royal New Zealand Air Force P-8A Poseidon was also deployed.” Commodore Arndell said the incident occurred on Saturday evening while conducting a hydrographic survey 1 nautical mile from shore. “The 75 crew and passengers began evacuating into lifeboats at 7.52 pm on Saturday 5 October,” he said. “Rescuers battled currents and winds that were pushing the life rafts and sea boats toward the reefs, and swells made the rescue effort particularly challenging. “We are very grateful for the assistance of everyone involved, from RCCNZ who coordinated rescue efforts, to the vessels which responded and took our crew and passengers from Manawanui to safety. “At this stage the exact cause of the grounding is unknown and this will need further investigation. “At 6.40am Sunday, the ship was listing heavily and smoke was visible from the ship. At 9am it was known to have capsized and was below the surface. “NZDF is working with authorities to understand the implications and minimise the environmental impacts.” https://www.asiaone.com/world/new-zealand-navy-ship-sinks-samoa-all-75-onboard-safe https://www.asiaone.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_top_image/public/original_images/Oct2024/06102024_ship%20sink_twitter.jpg

I really don’t think investigators will spend any time on her sexual orientation. Grow up.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:43pm:

I really don’t think investigators will spend any time on her sexual orientation. Grow up.

Learn how to remove quoted text.

forgiven

namaste

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:48pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 6th, 2024 at 3:43pm: I really don’t think investigators will spend any time on her sexual orientation. Grow up. Learn how to remove quoted text. forgiven namaste

I’m on my iPad on holidays, not my computer at home with a keyboard, so it’s harder to do!

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6th, 2024 at 3:48pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 6th, 2024 at 3:43pm: I really don’t think investigators will spend any time on her sexual orientation. Grow up. Learn how to remove quoted text. forgiven namaste I’m on my iPad on holidays, not my computer at home with a keyboard, so it’s harder to do!

Don't worry - you have been forgiven.   :)

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:43pm:

on Saturday evening while the ship was conducting a reef survey.

'Hey git us some more fersh un cherps'
'Jerst finishh thish one..
'Two shmall ones barman..mek thet lerge ones'
'Yihh, giz ther bottle thanksh..'

Not meaning to offend any Kiwis on this forum, but after Helen Clarke gutted the Air Force by disbanding their fighter jet squadrons, the NZ defence force has become a joke. They’re basically defenceless now thanks to Clarke.

chimera wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:58pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 6th, 2024 at 3:43pm: on Saturday evening while the ship was conducting a reef survey. 'Hey git us some more fersh un cherps' 'Jerst finishh thish one.. 'Two shmall ones barman..mek thet lerge ones' 'Yihh, giz ther bottle thanksh..'

Utt us good usn't utt?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 4:02pm:

Not meaning to offend any Kiwis on this forum, but after Helen Clarke gutted the Air Force by disbanding their fighter jet squadrons, the NZ defence force has become a joke. They’re basically defenceless now thanks to Clarke.

The Kiwis don't have a single jet fighter.

They are completely defenceless.

They only ever had old A4 Skyhawks  - sold off in 2001.

https://airforcemuseum.co.nz/aircraft/mcdonnell-douglas-ta-4k-skyhawk-nz6254/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disbandment_of_the_RNZAF_air_combat_force

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/McDonnell_Douglas_A-4C_Skyhawk_%288670293139%29.jpg/1280px-McDonnell_Douglas_A-4C_Skyhawk_%288670293139%29.jpg

In some ways NZ are military parasites on Australia -

they expect Australia to help them if they are invaded and don't put up
the money for their own defence nor to help us.
They are getting a free ride.

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 5:39pm:

I some ways NZ are military parasites on Australia - they expect Australia to help them if they are invaded and don't put up the money for their own defence nor to help us. They are getting a free ride.

Tonga could probably mount a successful invasion of Kiwiland!

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 7:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6th, 2024 at 5:39pm: In some ways NZ are military parasites on Australia - they expect Australia to help them if they are invaded and don't put up the money for their own defence nor to help us. They are getting a free ride. Tonga could probably mount a successful invasion of Kiwiland!

The Chinese might invade there first -
it would take less than 1 day.   :-[

It is a damn good thing Australian ships never leave shore base or Australia would have the same problem.

Remember drunken Duncan the captain of the HMAS Voyager which was cut in two by aircraft carrier HMAS Melbourne in a nighttime exercise collision.

At least the New Zealanders didn't cut their ship in half.

Australian ships have been instructed not to leave port under any circumstances since that incident.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CnTM_YqqUs

The successful attack on Voyager was a text-book 'great white shark' ramming tactic.  The painted teeth on Yank planes inspired the jagged fangs on the aircraft carrier. It's hoped the method will  sort out the Chinese navy boys.

Maybe she was boppin' along to a song...

Quote:

But I will go down with this ship And I won't put my hands up and surrender There will be no white flag above my door I'm in love and always will be

Then she put up her hands, the white flag above her door, finally abandoned ship. Still in love but won't be commanding a canoe.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 7:39pm:

Australian ships have been instructed not to leave port under any circumstances since that incident.

You really are not very bright, are you?

Setanta wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 8:33pm:

Maybe she was boppin' along to a song... Quote: But I will go down with this ship And I won't put my hands up and surrender There will be no white flag above my door I'm in love and always will be Then she put up her hands, the white flag above her door, finally abandoned ship. Still in love but won't be commanding a canoe.

Setanta has raised his caftan and more.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 8:42pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 6th, 2024 at 8:33pm: Maybe she was boppin' along to a song... Quote: But I will go down with this ship And I won't put my hands up and surrender There will be no white flag above my door I'm in love and always will be Then she put up her hands, the white flag above her door, finally abandoned ship. Still in love but won't be commanding a canoe. Setanta has raised his caftan and more.

That's a very poofy thing to say.   

Not that .....        :-[

I didn't know they had one.............  past gf was the daughter of a NZ Captain - I think it was Achilles.....

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6th, 2024 at 3:35pm: wow - diversity, equity and inclusion. WTF? NZ navy ship sinks while commanded by carpet muncher. https://www.nzdf.mil.nz/assets/Uploads/Blog/Manawanui-Photo-3__FocusFillWyItMC4wOCIsIi0wLjM3IiwxMDAwLDU1MF0.jpg https://x.com/captivedreamer7/status/1842716785541558508 Competency Crisis? New Zealand Naval ship HMNZS Manawanui runs around off Samoa and sinks - lesbian Yvonne Gray's first command after resettling with her "wife" in NZ in 2012 https://www.contactairlandandsea.com/2024/10/06/hmnzs-manawanui-hits-reef-and-sinks-off-samoa/ https://www.contactairlandandsea.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/hmnzs_manawanui.jpg HMNZS Manawanui hits reef and sinks off Samoa 06/10/2024 Royal New Zealand Navy Ship HMNZS Manawanui hit a reef off the southern coast of Upolu, Samoa, on Saturday evening while the ship was conducting a reef survey. FILE PHOTO (July 2020): HMNZS Manawanui at sea for the first time under Royal New Zealand Navy Control, in the Hauraki Gulf. NZDF photo. Photos circulating on social media today show the ship listing heavily and emitting smoke. New Zealand Maritime Component Commander Commodore Shane Arndell said all crew and passengers from the ship were rescued in the early hours of Sunday morning. “The 75 crew and passengers on board HMNZS Manawanui have made it to safety in Samoa and are being supported in Samoa or on supporting vessels,” Commodore Arndell said. “The 75 left the ship in life rafts and sea boats after the ship grounded. “New Zealand Defence Force worked closely with Maritime New Zealand’s Rescue Coordination Centre (RCCNZ) which coordinated rescue efforts. “Several vessels responded and assisted in rescuing crew and passengers. “A Royal New Zealand Air Force P-8A Poseidon was also deployed.” Commodore Arndell said the incident occurred on Saturday evening while conducting a hydrographic survey 1 nautical mile from shore. “The 75 crew and passengers began evacuating into lifeboats at 7.52 pm on Saturday 5 October,” he said. “Rescuers battled currents and winds that were pushing the life rafts and sea boats toward the reefs, and swells made the rescue effort particularly challenging. “We are very grateful for the assistance of everyone involved, from RCCNZ who coordinated rescue efforts, to the vessels which responded and took our crew and passengers from Manawanui to safety. “At this stage the exact cause of the grounding is unknown and this will need further investigation. “At 6.40am Sunday, the ship was listing heavily and smoke was visible from the ship. At 9am it was known to have capsized and was below the surface. “NZDF is working with authorities to understand the implications and minimise the environmental impacts.” https://www.asiaone.com/world/new-zealand-navy-ship-sinks-samoa-all-75-onboard-safe https://www.asiaone.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_top_image/public/original_images/Oct2024/06102024_ship%20sink_twitter.jpg I really don’t think investigators will spend any time on her sexual orientation. Grow up.

For a self-styled, small c 'christian' - bobby sure carries around a lot of capital H 'HATE'



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Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:35pm:

wow - diversity, equity and inclusion. WTF? NZ navy ship sinks while commanded by carpet muncher.

Holey, sunken ship, Bobby...

Could you even consider the possibility that the megalodon (confirmed sighting) is actively migrating near the waters of Samoa?

Nothing to do with carpet cleaners not having spatial awareness.

You realise that the way you are going the heterophobes are going to have a field day with playing with the emotions of the majority of Australians. Sick of the wokeness going on since 2010. Don't provoke it further. Let's remove the excuses that the "enthusiastic homosexual people" have with using illicit drugs.

The ship's crew is safe and unharmed, that's good.

No worries, Polynesian navigators used wayfinding techniques such as the navigation by the stars, and observations of birds, ocean swells, and wind patterns.

A New Zealand Navy ship captained by a lesbian ran aground and sank off the coast of Samoa last month as a result of human error, including failure to turn off autopilot, a damning report has found.


Woke DEI - it'll cost ya!

After the sinking of the ship which was one of just nine in the New Zealand Navy and the first lost at sea since World War 2, Captain Gray’s position as commander came into question after it was revealed she had been promoted amid a push for diversity and inclusion in the Defence Force.

She was lauded in a June 2023 New Zealand Department of Defence press release celebrating her and three other female commanders, in which one gushed about a culture change in the navy due to a “focus on diversity, equity and respect for personnel”.



You wouldn't want to join such a defence force.

The ship had a basic crew of 39. The lady steered the wheel and the 38 others cooked fersh ernd cherps and switched on the autopilot.

Frank wrote on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 8:57pm:

A New Zealand Navy ship captained by a lesbian ran aground and sank off the coast of Samoa last month as a result of human error, including failure to turn off autopilot, a damning report has found. Woke DEI - it'll cost ya! After the sinking of the ship which was one of just nine in the New Zealand Navy and the first lost at sea since World War 2, Captain Gray’s position as commander came into question after it was revealed she had been promoted amid a push for diversity and inclusion in the Defence Force. She was lauded in a June 2023 New Zealand Department of Defence press release celebrating her and three other female commanders, in which one gushed about a culture change in the navy due to a “focus on diversity, equity and respect for personnel”. You wouldn't want to join such a defence force.

It's the patriarchy wot did it.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:30pm:

How, with all the modern navigation equipment could the Kiwis have a hydrographic ship sink near Samoa? These ships are specifically designed and equipped to chart undersea topography. No mention of engine or other equipment failures that I’ve read. I bet the Captain loses his job. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-06/new-zealand-navy-ship-runs-aground-off-samoa-/104438052

I think that sort of gear tends to be sideways and rear looking. There is not need to have it looking forward, and no need to use it in navigation. You could drive that thing into a brick wall and it wouldn't see it coming. That's what the captain is for.

Hydrography is not sonar navigation. The captain is not on duty or even awake 24/7.  Captains aren't always officer of watch. It's been 2 months and the captain wasn't suspended.

ahh..'They were the officer in control of the ship, an officer supervising that person, and the ship's commanding officer.'
The captain was there but not actively in control. The three wise men....

If China make it into Oceania and onto New Zealand. It would be a peaceful tame occupation, as NZ would submit on peaceful terms as the Chinese know that it has already been colonised by its yellow brethren Maori.
Asia and Oceania are more friends than foes.
A lot of Oceanian nations have made good connections with Asian nations like China.

Australia, being a part of Sahul, is a different story.

Maoris went south and hit Aotearoa. James Cook hit the Barrier Reef and built Cooktown.  New Zealand hit Samoa and lost face.
China builds islands in its Sea (the Pacific Ocean as the first Chinese territory).

Her last thought before hitting rocks was going down on her partner.

The DEI system malfunctioned.

2 men in charge.
1 woman as captain.

'Captain'
'Yes that's me'.
'I've run into a rock, Maam'
'Sorry, it's my fault'.