What cheeky, nosey devils these car companies are:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2024-10-09/car-brands-are-tracking-and-sharing-your-data-with-third-parties/104440742

These car brands are collecting and sharing your data with third parties:

Tesla    Collects voice and video and shares some data with third parties
Hyundai   Collects and shares voice recognition and other data with third parties
Kia    Collects and shares voice recognition and other data with third parties
Mazda   Collects and shares driving data, as well as "voice consumption" data
MG     Collects driver data, unclear if shared
Ford     Collects and shares driver data, but not biometric data
Toyota    Collects and shares driver data, including driver behaviour and vehicle location, but not biometric data
Isuzu Ute   Does not collect or share driver data in Australia
Subaru   Does not collect or share driver data in Australia



In short:

An investigation by consumer advocacy group Choice found most of Australia's popular car brands collect and share "driver data", ranging from braking patterns to video footage.

Kia and Hyundai collect voice recognition data from inside their cars and sell it to an artificial intelligence software training company.
What's next?

Privacy and consumer rights advocates are pushing for law reform to limit data collection to what is "fair and reasonable".


Choice sifted through the privacy policies of the 10 most popular car brands in Australia to identify which track their drivers and passengers.

As car makers add microphones, sensors and other internet-connected features,
cars are fast becoming all-seeing data harvesting machines dubbed "smartphones on wheels".

But many car makers are not being up-front about data collection and often keep the fine print in their privacy policies vaguely worded, Choice investigative reporter Jarni Blakkarly said.

"We found that seven out of 10 of those car brands contain concerning privacy policies that allows them to track driver data, driving habits, and sell that data to third parties.

"We found Hyundai, Kia and Tesla to be the most concerning."


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I thought it was highly illegal to record someone's private conversation?
Even cops need a court order to do that.

What the hell is going on?

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/how-australias-biggest-car-brands-are-collecting-and-using-your-data



How Australia’s biggest car brands are collecting - and using - your data

Experts have called for privacy laws to be changed amid concerns over
carmakers' collection of customer data through connected services.


Speaking to CHOICE, Dr Vanessa Teague from the Australian National University’s College of Engineering, Computing and Cybernetics said the data collection undertaken by these companies was “totally unacceptable”, and called for new laws to be implemented to prevent it.

“The idea that you can de-identify an image, or a voice is de-identified, it’s nonsense,” Dr Teague said.

“What these car companies are doing is totally unacceptable. It should be illegal. These practices are good evidence that we need the Privacy Act updated or the Privacy Act enforced, because none of this should be acceptable in our country.

“Opt-out is not the answer; you should have to opt-in to some of these features if you want them.
Many of these other features should simply be illegal.”

Bobby. wrote on Oct 9^th, 2024 at 8:28pm:

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/how-australias-biggest-car-brands-are-collecting-and-using-your-data How Australia’s biggest car brands are collecting - and using - your data Experts have called for privacy laws to be changed amid concerns over carmakers' collection of customer data through connected services. Speaking to CHOICE, Dr Vanessa Teague from the Australian National University’s College of Engineering, Computing and Cybernetics said the data collection undertaken by these companies was “totally unacceptable”, and called for new laws to be implemented to prevent it. “The idea that you can de-identify an image, or a voice is de-identified, it’s nonsense,” Dr Teague said. “What these car companies are doing is totally unacceptable. It should be illegal. These practices are good evidence that we need the Privacy Act updated or the Privacy Act enforced, because none of this should be acceptable in our country. “Opt-out is not the answer; you should have to opt-in to some of these features if you want them. Many of these other features should simply be illegal.”

I shoulda kept my EH! Both my cars are not smart enough. VR SS, VE S2 Wagon.

Setanta wrote on Oct 9^th, 2024 at 9:08pm:

I shoulda kept my EH! Both my cars are not smart enough. VR SS, VE S2 Wagon.

I think we'll get new laws to stop them.

On TV tonight they said in a time of war China
could disable all the Chinese cars in Australia remotely.

mitsubishi don't

or get an older car.

I will bear this in mind, when I go to the marketplace with a measly ten grand in hand.

The older the beast, the better.

Aurora Complexus wrote on Oct 9^th, 2024 at 10:10pm:

I will bear this in mind, when I go to the marketplace with a measly ten grand in hand. The older the beast, the better.

An old 4 cyl non turbo petrol Mazda or a toyota, 6 speed auto will last a decade.

I think my iphone does all that already. 

tickleandrose wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 2:01pm:

I think my iphone does all that already.

You need to get into settings and make sure that you disable many programs
from accessing microphones and cameras etc.