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Title: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Bobby. on Oct 18th, 2024 at 3:15pm
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/northern-territory-air-base-used-as-staging-ground-for-us-strike-on-houthi-weapon-stores/ar-AA1styuM
Northern Territory air base used as staging ground for US strike on Houthi weapon stores A remote Northern Territory air base was used as a staging post for this week's United States air strike on underground Houthi weapons stores in Yemen, an attack that has been seen as a warning to Iran. The Department of Defence confirmed Australia provided support for US strikes on October 17, targeting the Houthi facilities "through access and overflight for US aircraft in northern Australia". "Australia is committed to supporting the US, and key partners, in disrupting Houthi capabilities used to threaten global trade and the lives of mariners in the Red Sea, a vital international waterway," a defence spokesperson said. US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said early on Friday morning (AEDT) that President Joe Biden ordered the strikes to "further degrade the Houthis' capability" to destabilise the region and protect US forces in "one of the world's most critical waterways". While the US did not mention Iran, American media noted that the B-2 is the only plane capable of hitting deeply buried Iranian nuclear facilities. "This was a unique demonstration of the United States' ability to target facilities that our adversaries seek to keep out of reach, no matter how deeply buried underground, hardened or fortified," Mr Austin said. "The employment of US Air Force B-2 Spirit long-range stealth bombers demonstrate US global strike capabilities to take action against these targets when necessary, anytime, anywhere." The US has been battling Iran-backed Houthis since shortly after the Hamas terrorist attack on Israel over a year ago. It is not known whether the bombs, known as GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrators or MOPs, were used in the mission. |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Bobby. on Oct 18th, 2024 at 3:19pm
Wow - we're in the war.
B2 bombers cost $2 billion each - there are only 19 of them. https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/why-air-forces-b-2-bomber-costs-2000000000-210161 |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by tallowood on Oct 18th, 2024 at 3:47pm |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Bobby. on Oct 18th, 2024 at 4:20pm
I wonder if Albo knew about it?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-18/australian-airbase-used-in-us-strike-on-houthi-stores-yemen/104490578 Northern Territory air base used as staging ground for US strike on Houthi weapon stores Exclusive by defence correspondent Andrew Greene and chief digital political correspondent Jacob Greber Topic:Defence Forces 2h ago In short: The Department of Defence has confirmed Australia provided support for the US strikes on underground bunkers used by Yemen's Houthi rebels "through access and overflight for US aircraft in northern Australia". The US said its strikes were ordered by President Joe Biden to degrade the Houthi weapons stores and send a message to "our adversaries", which includes Iran. An Australian official said the support was "consistent with our long-standing alliance commitment and close cooperation, demonstrating the interoperability of our militaries". |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Yadda on Oct 18th, 2024 at 4:59pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 3:19pm:
bobby, Before they bombed Yemen and the Houthis, shouldn't the U.S. have counseled the Houthis, to please, please, end their freewill attacks upon Israel, and their freewill attacks upon international shipping in the Red Sea ? bobby, ......an aside. Did you ever watch the [a particular] Houthi spokesman on a news video [after their attack upon Israel or shipping], declaring their furious anger and hostile intent towards their [i.e. Allah's] enemies ? He is quite an intense 'seller of his goods' ! . Proverbs 29:8 Scornful men bring a city into a snare: but wise men turn away wrath. "Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night." Psalms KJV |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Bobby. on Oct 18th, 2024 at 5:03pm
Dear Yadda,
many blessings we are now in the war in the Middle East. Should our parliament have voted on it first? |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Bobby. on Oct 18th, 2024 at 5:15pm
https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-stealth-bombers-hit-houthi-underground-weapons-depots-in-apparent-warning-to-iran
US stealth bombers hit Houthi underground weapons depots in apparent warning to Iran Long-range B-2 plane reported used in Yemen strike for first time; US Defense Secretary Austin says op shows ability to target enemies’ facilities that are seemingly out of reach By AP 17 October 2024, 8:45 am US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said in a statement that the B-2 bombers targeted “five hardened underground weapons storage locations in Houthi-controlled areas of Yemen.” The B-2 would be used in any American attack on hardened Iranian nuclear facilities like Natanz or Fordo given it is the only aircraft in service that can drop the GBU-57, known as the “Massive Ordnance Penetrator.” “This was a unique demonstration of the United States’ ability to target facilities that our adversaries seek to keep out of reach, no matter how deeply buried underground, hardened, or fortified,” Austin said. Austin and the US military’s Central Command offered no immediate assessment of the damage done. However, Central Command said in a statement that initial assessments suggested no civilians had been killed. |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Yadda on Oct 18th, 2024 at 5:16pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 5:03pm:
bobby, The U.S. and Australia are close military allies, who are 'joined at the hip'. So the U.S. would have consulted with our 'executive' government, before such an action. That is sufficient. i.e. No need to telegraph an enemy too, that such an action could be coming. You have to learn to 'move with' the strategic times bobby. ;) :) |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Bobby. on Oct 18th, 2024 at 5:22pm Yadda wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 5:16pm:
So will Albo now declare war on Yemen? |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Yadda on Oct 18th, 2024 at 7:05pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 5:22pm:
Come on, don't be silly bobby. The Australian Labor Party, is Peace. You watch bobby..... ......as soon as the war in Gaza ends, Australia will volunteer to take in 75,000 Gazan refugees. Coz Australia is a peace loving nation, who wants to help needy, traumatised, peace loving refugees bobby. Australia is a big, and wealthy nation bobby. And there is still plenty of room in Australia, .....for lots of needy ISLAMIC refugees. |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Setanta on Oct 18th, 2024 at 7:11pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 5:22pm:
The Houthis, proscribed terrorists, are not the Yemen govt, they are an Iranian backed group fighting a civil war against the govt. |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by chimera on Oct 18th, 2024 at 7:54pm
The real target is the Iranian generals planning what missiles to deliver to the citizens of Israel. And to Tindal, Oz.
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Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Bobby. on Oct 18th, 2024 at 8:10pm Setanta wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 7:11pm:
OK so you're saying the Yemen Govt would have welcomed the attack? |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Setanta on Oct 18th, 2024 at 8:25pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 8:10pm:
That's not what I said but I would agree that it's more than probable. |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Bobby. on Oct 18th, 2024 at 8:34pm Setanta wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 8:25pm:
Fair enough. latest - nothing from Albo? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-18/australian-airbase-used-in-us-strike-on-houthi-stores-yemen/104490578 Editor's note 18/10/2024: The previous version of this story said "A remote Northern Territory air base has been used as a staging post for this week's major US air strike on underground Houthi weapons stores in Yemen." On Friday, the ABC approached the Defence Department asking if US aircraft involved in the strikes took off from RAAF Tindal in the Northern Territory. Defence did not confirm or deny the question and said Australia provided support "through access and overflight." The story has been updated to include a statement from a Defence spokesperson who clarified B2s were not operating out of RAAF Base Tindal. Defence declined to comment on all other questions citing operational security. |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Setanta on Oct 18th, 2024 at 8:44pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 8:34pm:
Perhaps a refueler based at Tindal, Fly over, refuel, next fuel stop Diego Garcia. |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Bobby. on Oct 18th, 2024 at 8:48pm Setanta wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 8:44pm:
Quite likely - Diego Garcia is much closer to Yemen. |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Dnarever on Oct 18th, 2024 at 8:50pm
Its difficult with all these conflicts especially in the middle east, I am no longer so sure that we are on the right side. I tend to seldom believe what the government say, not to say I believe the other side either.
Our governments seem to play favourites and the facts don't seem to matter very much. |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Bobby. on Oct 18th, 2024 at 8:54pm Dnarever wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 8:50pm:
It could have consequences - could the Houthis now target Australian ships heading for or leaving the Suez canal? |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 18th, 2024 at 11:18pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 8:54pm:
Do we have any commercial ships? Your links mention air to air refuelling these bombers didn't land here. Quote:
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Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Bobby. on Oct 19th, 2024 at 6:02am Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 11:18pm:
I'm sure we have cargo ships that use the Suez canal. Maybe they were refueled in the air? :-/ |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by chimera on Oct 19th, 2024 at 8:25am
Using Tindal is odd as refuelling could be done in the Mediterranean. But Tindal confirms that the US can reach Iran without crossing the Middle East and its defences. It's playing a mind game.
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Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Setanta on Oct 19th, 2024 at 8:41am chimera wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 8:25am:
It probably came from Guam, refuelled over Au and Diego Garcia, same on the way back. |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by aquascoot on Oct 19th, 2024 at 9:33am
the war in yemen started by the saudis with obamas support has seen 2 million people die.
mainly kids now thats a genocide aided by obama and yet the leftie loons complain about 40,000 dead in gaza. the jews are so terrible at genocide unlike the obama administration was :'( :'( :'( |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Bobby. on Oct 19th, 2024 at 9:55am aquascoot wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 9:33am:
Bibi needs to go before a Nuremberg 2 trial for crimes against humanity. Let the court decide and have the gallows waiting outside. |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by tallowood on Oct 19th, 2024 at 10:34am Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 8:54pm:
Houthis have targeted Australian, among others, ships heading for or leaving the Suez canal for months now that's why they were bombed now. In any case according to DFAT Australia's top five trading partners are China, Japan, the United States, the Republic of Korea and India, which is Asia Pacific. |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by tallowood on Oct 19th, 2024 at 10:44am
To stop Houthis their khat supply and storage have to be destroyed.
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Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by chimera on Oct 19th, 2024 at 12:14pm
What a journey! Missouri to Guam 12,000km, to Oz 3000, to Diego Garcia 6000, to Yemen 4000= 25,000 at 1010km/hour for B2. That's 25 hours for B2 with two pilots, one way. Join the air force and travel the world..
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Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Bobby. on Oct 19th, 2024 at 2:11pm chimera wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 12:14pm:
Wouldn't it be easier to locate the B2 bombers in Israel? Yemen would then be only 1,800 km away. |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by tallowood on Oct 19th, 2024 at 2:23pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 2:11pm:
Maybe Israel in NATO instead of Ukraine? |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Bobby. on Oct 19th, 2024 at 2:26pm tallowood wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 2:23pm:
What? |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by tallowood on Oct 19th, 2024 at 2:35pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 2:26pm:
Quote:
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Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Bobby. on Oct 19th, 2024 at 2:51pm
Dear Tallo,
you speak in riddles - what is your point of contention? |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by chimera on Oct 19th, 2024 at 3:16pm
He feels there may be B2 in Ukraine. The 'B' is for 'boom' deep under the Kremlin.
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Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Bobby. on Oct 19th, 2024 at 3:28pm chimera wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 3:16pm:
I don't think even he knows what he means. :-[ |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Setanta on Oct 19th, 2024 at 5:26pm chimera wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 12:14pm:
Why Missouri as the starting point? |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by tallowood on Oct 19th, 2024 at 5:33pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 2:51pm:
Bobby, why would you put long range bombers within enemy's striking range? As for putting B2s in 404 even Zelensky in his cocaine fantasies didn't dream that dream. |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by chimera on Oct 19th, 2024 at 6:20pm Setanta wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 5:26pm:
'Where are B-2s stationed? Whiteman AFB, Missouri, is the only operational base for the B-2'. But prolly everything was done v. carefully with the beasts and bomb being rare and expensive. |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by chimera on Oct 19th, 2024 at 6:22pm tallowood wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 2:23pm:
um..yeah.. still not making much sense are you. Except as rabid demented Russ. |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Setanta on Oct 19th, 2024 at 6:25pm chimera wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 6:20pm:
They forward deploy them fairly often. Not every B2 lives in Missouri all the time. Guam quite often because of NK or China games. It wouldn't make sense that they would station them all in one place permanently, no flexibility, even though it may be their "home" base. |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by tallowood on Oct 19th, 2024 at 6:35pm chimera wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 6:22pm:
I'm not surprised about your cognitive disability so here is some help |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Oct 19th, 2024 at 6:35pm
FOBs are everywhere - to my personal knowledge Tindal has has revetments for B-52s and supplies since the 1980's... now B-2s and B-1s is hardly a stretch.
Just a step or two to the north from there. Almost there and back without refuelling, to Beijing, for a B2.. one refuel each way for a B1 - but they'd fuel up out of Okinawa or Guam along the way.... Diego Garcia for the ME ... Iran.... refuel on the way in - go in with full tanks.... fall back out of range of TacAir from China or Iran. |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Setanta on Oct 19th, 2024 at 6:46pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 6:35pm:
There's also Hawaii. |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Oct 19th, 2024 at 6:55pm Setanta wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 6:46pm:
Closer to the mainland the better - unless they want to redo 7/12/1941.... on this day of infamy.... Funny thing about Iran - its honchos want to be the big boy in the ME - ruling over the Arabs - their ancient enemies..... only the radicals like His Bollocks and Ham Ass are online with that... the Arab nations generally are against the idea ... someone said elsewhere that Iran controlled Iraq now... can't see it, but worth a look. I'm not up on that one.... can't even budget to service the paper shredder.... |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by chimera on Oct 19th, 2024 at 7:31pm Setanta wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 6:25pm:
They chose the words. https://www.whiteman.af.mil/About/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/886024/b-2-spirit/#:~:text=Whiteman%20AFB%2C%20Missouri%2C%20is%20the,Center%20at%20Tinker%20AFB%2C%20Okla |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by chimera on Oct 19th, 2024 at 7:34pm tallowood wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 6:35pm:
'Israel but not Ukraine in NATO' is sarcasm? oh very well. yes...eh |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Setanta on Oct 19th, 2024 at 7:35pm chimera wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 7:31pm:
Every unit has a "home base". You only need to google Guam B2 to see B2s not sitting idle in Miossouri. B-2 Spirit Bombers taxi, takeoff and land at Nellis Air Force Base, NV on December 3, 2018. Unit - 509th Bomb Wing, Homebase - Whiteman AFB. |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by chimera on Oct 19th, 2024 at 8:14pm Whiteman AFB, Missouri, is for the B-2'. sorted |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Bobby. on Oct 19th, 2024 at 8:21pm tallowood wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 5:33pm:
404? ( 404 error, page not found) You're still speaking in riddles that only you understand. Are you OK? |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Setanta on Oct 19th, 2024 at 8:34pm chimera wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 8:14pm:
Doesn't mean they started their trek there to hit Yemen. Sorted even betterer! ;D |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Setanta on Oct 19th, 2024 at 8:36pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 8:21pm:
HTTP error 404, page not found. He's saying Ukraine is 404, doesn't exist. |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Bobby. on Oct 19th, 2024 at 8:40pm Setanta wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 8:36pm:
At least you understand him. :-/ |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Setanta on Oct 19th, 2024 at 9:07pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 8:40pm:
He was also saying NATO should let Israel join it and not look at Ukraine joining. Ukraine is 404, it is part of Russia. |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Bobby. on Oct 19th, 2024 at 9:12pm Setanta wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 9:07pm:
Thanks - well I look forward to Tallo confirming the answer to his riddle. |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 19th, 2024 at 10:32pm Setanta wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 8:44pm:
They would refuel off west coast USA then again near Hawaii then another load east of Cairns then Diego Garcia. Return trip wouldn't use as much fuel with no payload. Quote:
They would need permission to fly over countries north of Australia so probably easier to just ask us. Quote:
Nice write up of B2s flying from USA to bomb the Taliban https://www.airandspaceforces.com/PDF/MagazineArchive/Documents/2016/December%202016/1216hours.pdf |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Bobby. on Oct 19th, 2024 at 10:44pm
Baron,
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Still strange. Why wouldn't they take the shorter path - land at Nevatim air base in Israel direct from the USA over the Atlantic - load up the ordnance and fly a short trip to Yemen? |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 19th, 2024 at 10:52pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 10:44pm:
They are based in the US for starters. It's stealth aircraft if they flew over Atlanitic they would have to ask permission to fly over other countries which takes away element of surprise. The mission idea behind B2 was it can take off from USA and bomb anywhere in the world |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Bobby. on Oct 19th, 2024 at 11:07pm Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 10:52pm:
Nonsense - the Atlantic leads to the Mediterranean via the Strait of Gibraltar - all international airspace. |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 19th, 2024 at 11:16pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 11:07pm:
Did you miss that part? When they come down for air to air refuelling everyone will know where they are. From Israel they have to fly over Saudi airspace the Saudis have American made air defences. The Americans don't take advice from Neville nobodies on the internet |
Title: Re: Tindal air base used for B2 strike on Yemen. Post by Bobby. on Oct 20th, 2024 at 12:42pm Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 11:16pm:
The Saudis are allied with the USA in the fight against the Houthis in Yemen. ::) forgiven namaste |
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