Covid inquiry results today.
No mention of charges of crimes against humanity
for despots like Dan Andrews:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-29/covid-response-review-released/104531920


Review of COVID response finds Australians unlikely to accept lockdowns again

By political reporter Tom Crowley

    Topic:Epidemics and Pandemics

2h ago

In short:

A review of Australia's COVID-19 response hails "courageous decisions" and "decisive" action early in the pandemic, but says social licence has been eroded by lengthy restrictions that were poorly communicated.

The review makes recommendations for "the next pandemic", including better preparedness and clear delineation of responsibilities between federal, state and territory governments.
What's next?

The government says it plans to establish what it is calling a Centre for Disease Control, a national public health body, by the start of 2026.

Australia's COVID-19 response frayed after early successes, damaging the public's trust and making it unlikely that lockdowns or other harsh restrictions will be tolerated again, a federal government review has found.

The review hailed "courageous decisions" taken by leaders early in the pandemic, without which it concluded the pandemic death toll would have been several times larger, but said cracks started to emerge as the pandemic wore on and communication was often poor, undermining public confidence.

"Trust has also been eroded, and many of the measures taken during COVID-19 are unlikely to be accepted by the population again," the reviewers said.

Recommendations focused on better preparedness and co-ordination between levels of government, to improve readiness for future pandemics. Studies of the impact on children and on population-wide mental health were also recommended.

But the reviewers – senior public servant Robyn Kruk, epidemiologist Professor Catherine Bennett and economist Dr Angela Jackson – also offered wider commentary on the effectiveness of border closures, lockdowns, school closures, vaccine mandates and aged care strategies.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/breaking-news/several-measures-in-australias-covid-response-would-not-be-accepted-again-covid19-inquiry-report-finds/news-story/4377ea075743cca3c264a4165b0384d5

Several measures in Australia’s Covid response would not be accepted again,
Covid-19 Inquiry report finds

Jessica Wang
2 hours ago.
Updated 2 minutes ago


Australians are “unlikely” to accept large-scale Covid-19 measures and restrictions in an inevitable future pandemic, with “heavy-handed” rules and large-scale vaccine mandates key factors to eroding trust.

As a result, vaccine immunity for diseases has waned, with a warning of “co-occurring outbreaks” that could overrun Australia’s health system.

The final report into Australia’s large-scale Covid-19 response has been released and warns the government that it needs to “rebuild trust” with the public, with “many of the measures taken during Covid-19 unlikely to be accepted by the population again”.

While Australians were more likely to follow government directives at the beginning of the pandemic, trust increasingly “eroded” as the pandemic continued, the report said.

Co-authored by former NSW Health director general Robyn Kruk, epidemiologist Catherine Bennett and health economist Angela Jackson, the report found this was, in part, because people weren’t given reasons behind the advice underpinning restrictions.


“This fed the perception that the government did not trust the public to understand or interpret the information correctly and contributed to the decrease in trust,” it said.

Submissions made to the inquiry noted that restrictive measures became “increasingly inappropriate” and were too “heavy-handed and controlling”.

The report recommended that a future public health emergency response should consider “fairness and proportionality when implementing and enforcing restrictive measures”.

Health Minister Mark Butler said the report was “thorough and measured” and vowed to implement its recommendations.

“We have a responsibility, particularly as a government, to examine our response to the pandemic, to learn what we did well, and in particular, to learn what we could have done better, and importantly, to build, as this report describes it, a high-level playbook for the next pandemic because we know there will be the next pandemic,” he said.

Mr Butler acknowledged Australia’s pandemic plans were “grossly inadequate”, limited Australia’s effectiveness and forced leaders to “build the plane while it was flying”.

People were forced to accept medical experiments on themselves.

Vaccines normally have a 10 year period to gain approval but in
many cases they were only tested for 6 weeks.
A new technology involving mRNA was used in many vaccines
which was not fully understood yet it went ahead anyway.
Govt bodies like ATAGI went along for the ride with dozens
of high qualified medical people including many university professors
all agreed that it was worth the risk.
There was a 100% agreement amongst them.

People in Victoria were given massive life changing fines for sitting by themselves
on a park bench in the sun
yet there was no evidence of Covid being transferred outdoors.

We had some of the longest lockdowns in the world - over 260 days of house arrest
for 5.5 million people.

What happened to this poor 70 year old woman?

What happened to the thugs who pushed her over and sprayed pepper spray into her eyes?



Australian Police Concuss & Pepper Spray 70 Year Old Woman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1jGKsIAT9w

Covid lockdown police violence:


Police Brutality - Man coward slammed: Flinders st Railway Station Melbourne Victoria Australia 2021

Sep 24, 2021

This guy woke up in a pool of his own blood and urine, calling for his mum.
I hope and pray that he doesn’t have brain damage from what looks like a ‘coward dump’ by a police officer.

I also pray that this officer (and his colleagues) get through this and have a change of heart, but justice must be served.

This did not look like someone upholding and enforcing the law, but that is what it seems he is paid to do.

??WHERE IS THE CONDEMNATION FROM OUR POLITICIANS??



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYTFz4icJeg

More Covid violence:

Police choke woman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39---Rf-aVA

The magistrate didn't allow a jury to make a decision.  WTF?


Charges dropped against cop who body slammed victim at Flinders Street.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvJLTvVp2OU

Dan said the cops did a good job:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYbVzFmtccc

Bobby. wrote on Oct 29^th, 2024 at 3:31pm:

People were forced to accept medical experiments on themselves. Vaccines normally have a 10 year period to gain approval but in many cases they were only tested for 6 weeks. A new technology involving mRNA was used in many vaccines which was not fully understood yet it went ahead anyway. Govt bodies like ATAGI went along for the ride with dozens of high qualified medical people including many university professors all agreed that it was worth the risk. There was a 100% agreement amongst them. People in Victoria were given massive life changing fines for sitting by themselves on a park bench in the sun yet there was no evidence of Covid being transferred outdoors. We had some of the longest lockdowns in the world - over 260 days of house arrest for 5.5 million people.

I didn't take their experimental sh.t and I'm still alive to prove them wrong ;)

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 29^th, 2024 at 6:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 29th, 2024 at 3:31pm: People were forced to accept medical experiments on themselves. Vaccines normally have a 10 year period to gain approval but in many cases they were only tested for 6 weeks. A new technology involving mRNA was used in many vaccines which was not fully understood yet it went ahead anyway. Govt bodies like ATAGI went along for the ride with dozens of high qualified medical people including many university professors all agreed that it was worth the risk. There was a 100% agreement amongst them. People in Victoria were given massive life changing fines for sitting by themselves on a park bench in the sun yet there was no evidence of Covid being transferred outdoors. We had some of the longest lockdowns in the world - over 260 days of house arrest for 5.5 million people. I didn't take their experimental sh.t and I'm still alive to prove them wrong ;)

sir brave Nail dodged a bullet.



https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/128/173/390/original/bd640edfab34c2cb.jpeg

The Nuremberg principles clearly state that medical experiments on humans are illegal.

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/167/950/880/original/a4575cfdd178bfcc.png

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/167/953/960/original/55dcd22be6215ffb.jpg

And, as promised...

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1695560663

Also...

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1693394451/16#16

Everything I said in those 2 threads has happened... but one didn't really need to be a clairvoyant to foresee this.

Moving along to today, here's a few comments about this whitewash sham of a "Covid Inquiry":

https://x.com/LettersfromTim/status/1851169984736895456


Quote:

The fix was in the moment @Mark_Butler_MP selected Bunker Bennett Nobody minimised or failed to read the published literature quite so comprehensively, except perhaps Nick of the Codpiece By the time the bill is due she’ll be retired to the central coast with the Prime Grifter

https://x.com/LettersfromTim/status/1851189947979739257


Quote:

Saying “people are unlikely to accept future lockdowns” is mindless Scenario: human 2 human transmission of H5N1 emerges ie a new Influenza pandemic Hospitals are overwhelmed, workplaces / schools are hazardous, protections are scarce What then? A lot of “free” dead people

https://x.com/LettersfromTim/status/1851202101428568338


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“In future, Australians will only have an appetite for short, sharp lockdowns, if any at all, and there would probably be decreased public compliance." This is the best Catherine Bennett could muster? Flu pandemics don’t take prisoners They kill people - a lot of them

https://x.com/dj1au/status/1851174206098325861


Quote:

It was always going to be about lockdowns and loss of freedom. We are hearing virtually nothing about how many lives were saved or how it was necessary to prevent hospitals being overwhelmed.

Yes, yes it was. Exactly what the government and big business wanted to hear.

Quote:

Australians are “unlikely” to accept large-scale Covid-19 measures and restrictions in an inevitable future pandemic

Of course they won't. Because governments deliberately promoted Covid containment measures (especially lockdowns and mask wearing) as restrictions rather than protections. And, in a country full of selfish "Stuff you, I'm alright, Jack" people, that really wasn't too difficult.

Plus, having an army of useful idiot antivaxxers and antimaskers (like the ones we have on this forum) made their job so much easier.


Quote:

with “heavy-handed” rules and large-scale vaccine mandates key factors to eroding trust.

All part of the deliberate "vaccines only and let it rip" disastrous course taken by our government (and most Western governments). And, in the case of Australia, we don't even have access to updated vaccines anymore, and no access to Novavax for the many vulnerable people who cannot tolerate mRNA vaccines (it seems these people are 'expendable' as far as the government and big business is concerned, just like the elderly).

I wonder if the report says anything about the infamous "the elderly and vulnerable will be protected when Covid is let rip" lie trotted out by our governments? No, of course it doesn't.


Quote:

As a result, vaccine immunity for diseases has waned, with a warning of “co-occurring outbreaks” that could overrun Australia’s health system.

Yes... because "the pandemic is over" or "Covid is just a cold now" (just ask anyone - especially our governments who are now too afraid to even say the "C" word anymore as recent vaccination advertising campaigns by the WA and Queensland State governments have shown).

It will be interesting to see what happens when H5N1 "bird flu" becomes the next big pandemic when it mutates into a human to human direct transmission variant (if it hasn't already) - especially if it maintains it's current 50% Case Fatality Rate.

And mpox is still spreading (the rate of spread seems to be on the increase lately but you'll be hard pressed to find any information about it from the government and the media, of course).


Quote:

The final report into Australia’s large-scale Covid-19 response has been released and warns the government that it needs to “rebuild trust” with the public, with “many of the measures taken during Covid-19 unlikely to be accepted by the population again”.

Really? So, whatever happened to 'Governments make laws and rules and the population is expected to abide by them for the common good'? Oh, wait... we're talking about Australia again.


Quote:

While Australians were more likely to follow government directives at the beginning of the pandemic, trust increasingly “eroded” as the pandemic continued, the report said.

Again... all part of the plan which came into effect (in every Western country - it really was a coordinated effort) when it was decided the pandemic had gone on for too long and it was time for people to start dying (in large numbers) for the economy.

As I said... this sham of a Covid Inquiry was a complete whitewash... which is exactly what the government was aiming for. "Mission Accomplished".

Hi Carl,
it would be nice if you could cover some of the points I made -  again -



People were forced to accept medical experiments on themselves.

Vaccines normally have a 10 year period to gain approval but in
many cases they were only tested for 6 weeks.
A new technology involving mRNA was used in many vaccines
which was not fully understood yet it went ahead anyway.
Govt bodies like ATAGI went along for the ride with dozens
of highly qualified medical people including many university professors
all agreed that it was worth the risk.
There was a 100% agreement amongst them.

People in Victoria were given massive life changing fines for sitting by themselves
on a park bench in the sun
yet there was no evidence of Covid being transferred outdoors.

We had some of the longest lockdowns in the world - over 260 days of house arrest
for 5.5 million people.

Good morning Bobby.


Quote:

People were forced to accept medical experiments on themselves.

Really? What "medical experiments" were those?

I don't seem to recall any "medical experiments" being conducted on myself or anyone else here in WA. What on earth was going on in Victoria?  ::)


Quote:

People in Victoria were given massive life changing fines for sitting by themselves on a park bench in the sun yet there was no evidence of Covid being transferred outdoors. We had some of the longest lockdowns in the world - over 260 days of house arrest for 5.5 million people.

This was unfortunate.

However, if people had done the right thing from the beginning and obeyed the Covid protection mandates like lockdowns and mask wearing instead of protesting about their 'freedumbs' and almost rioting in the streets then I'm sure the lockdowns wouldn't have gone on anywhere near as long as they did.

WA handled the pandemic very successfully for over 2 years with minimal lockdowns until Mark McGowan was forced into opening our borders to let Covid rip like the rest of Australia had already done.

Of course, if our governments and health departments, etc. had done their jobs properly and not allowed Covid to get into Australia and spread in the first place none of this would have been necessary.

Carl - don't be disingenuous -

Vaccines normally have a 10 year period to gain approval but in
many cases they were only tested for 6 weeks.
A new technology involving mRNA was used in many vaccines
which was not fully understood yet it went ahead anyway.
Govt bodies like ATAGI went along for the ride with dozens
of highly qualified medical people including many university professors
all agreed that it was worth the risk.
There was a 100% agreement amongst them.

it looks like the next virus will be met with the "swedish" approach.

looks like aquascoot was right all along  :) :)

aquascoot wrote on Oct 30^th, 2024 at 12:13pm:

it looks like the next virus will be met with the "swedish" approach. looks like aquascoot was right all along  :) :)

That would be the "let the elderly and vulnerable die so the young can flourish'' approach, would it?

Oh, wait... that's exactly the same approach that Australia and most of the rest of the world has been using for the past 2 or 3 years.

And... aquascoot is NEVER right (in my humble opinion).  :)

Carl D wrote on Oct 30^th, 2024 at 12:43pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 30th, 2024 at 12:13pm: it looks like the next virus will be met with the "swedish" approach. looks like aquascoot was right all along  :) :) That would be the "let the elderly and vulnerable die so the young can flourish'' approach, would it? Oh, wait... that's exactly the same approach that Australia and most of the rest of the world has been using for the past 2 or 3 years. And... aquascoot is NEVER right (in my humble opinion).  :)

yes, it seems that the world ended up adopting the swedish approach.

the elderly are a drain on social security, they tie up housing. they tie up health services  and businesses like travel and tourism are vital for the economy

so it was the logical step

aquascoot wrote on Oct 30^th, 2024 at 12:13pm:

it looks like the next virus will be met with the "swedish" approach. looks like aquascoot was right all along  :) :)

Of course he was right.

I think the vaccines did not much to help and just introduced more problems.

Human beings have an arrogance that we think we can fix anything with a drug.

aquascoot wrote on Oct 30^th, 2024 at 12:51pm:

yes, it seems that the world ended up adopting the swedish approach. the elderly are a drain on social security, they tie up housing. they tie up health services  and businesses like travel and tourism are vital for the economy so it was the logical step

Only for people like you.

I'll let the esteemed Dr. David Berger and Craig Wallace (https://x.com/CraigWtweets) comment further:

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1851593067654197417


Quote:

The last time I looked you didn't get a lighter sentence for murder because your victim was old or disabled. I think it's rather important that there is societal consensus before we sacrifice certain people, because "they're not worth as much". Not just some guy saying it's fine.

https://x.com/CraigWtweets/status/1851442213290701278


Quote:

I told ABC Radio Canberra today that the comments by Prof Peter Collignon who works at @ACTHealth about the 'value' of older & disabled lives through COVID19 were disgraceful and highlighted the way our lives were devalued at the height of the COVID19 pandemic

Yes, and Peter Collignon is another well known Covid minimiser. Just like Nick Coatsworth and several others.

hi carl

governments need to balance interests

having a dead tourism industry, a dead hotel industry, no foreign studients to inject cash would cause a lot of pain

many old people fully accept that death is approaching and welcome it

you and dr berger and a handful of others speak only for yourselves

you have formed a small narcissistic cult

the government arent listening because your cult has so few members , it cannot influence elections

so you shouldnt expect any favours from government

as i say, you must learn personal responsibility

you are stubborn and dont want to, but the government has weaned you off the government titty and you are not going to get any more breast milk

you need a cow and you will have to milk it yourself

So... let's see if I've got this right.

Australia's sham of a Covid Inquiry concludes that lockdowns were 'over the top' while conveniently ignoring the fact that tens of thousands of lives (some estimates say 60,000 lives) were saved by lockdowns and other Covid protections that were put in place before the vaccines were available.

It also says Australians were unlikely to accept lockdowns and other protection measures like mandatory masks and quarantine, etc. for a future pandemic and probably would not comply even if the government tried to (or even wanted to) implement them.

So... if that's the case then what is the point of having governments (Federal and State) here in Australia at all?

Here's what a few people have to say about all of this (there's many more replies that say pretty much the same thing but I couldn't fit them all in).

"brain dead country" indeed.

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hi carl

thank god for democracy

it means the 99 % who think like me can tell the 1 % who think like you to bugger off  ;D ;D

aquascoot wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 7:09pm:

hi carl thank god for democracy it means the 99 % who think like me can tell the 1 % who think like you to bugger off  ;D ;D

Oh, look.

It's OzPolitic's spokesperson for the "brain dead 99%" again.

:)

Carl D wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 7:14pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 7:09pm: hi carl thank god for democracy it means the 99 % who think like me can tell the 1 % who think like you to bugger off  ;D ;D Oh, look. It's OzPolitic's spokesperson for the "brain dead 99%" again. :)

  sure carl

you keep telling yourself that you and a handful of other  cult members know more then the chief health officers ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

So, when H5N1 "bird flu" becomes a full blown human to human transmission pandemic with a 50% CFR (Case Fatality Rate) is the government going to sit on it's hands and do nothing because "that's what the people want" or (more likely) "we're too afraid to try and introduce protections like lockdowns and mask wearing, etc." because "the people will not comply" (and it will upset the economy - but they won't say that part 'out loud', of course)?

Do people need to be dropping like flies in the streets before the government even begins to think about trying to do their job (which is supposed to be "protect the population")?

I wonder what would have happened during The Blitz in the Second World War if the majority of the UK population had said "No, we're not going to wear gas masks or go to bomb shelters or turn our lights out at night or black out our windows because it infringes on our freedoms"?

It's a good thing we didn't have the stupid, selfish populations and weak governments that we have today back then because I'm sure the outcome of WW2 would have been very different.

Carl D wrote on Nov 1^st, 2024 at 7:33am:

So, when H5N1 "bird flu" becomes a full blown human to human transmission pandemic with a 50% CFR (Case Fatality Rate) is the government going to sit on it's hands and do nothing because "that's what the people want" or (more likely) "we're too afraid to try and introduce protections like lockdowns and mask wearing, etc." because "the people will not comply" (and it will upset the economy - but they won't say that part 'out loud', of course)? Do people need to be dropping like flies in the streets before the government even begins to think about trying to do their job (which is supposed to be "protect the population")? I wonder what would have happened during The Blitz in the Second World War if the majority of the UK population had said "No, we're not going to wear gas masks or go to bomb shelters or turn our lights out at night or black out our windows because it infringes on our freedoms"? It's a good thing we didn't have the stupid, selfish populations and weak governments that we have today back then because I'm sure the outcome of WW2 would have been very different.

No hope of that -

Dirty Dan closed down Victoria over a couple of Covid cases.

He put 5.5 million people under house arrest.

Carl D wrote on Nov 1^st, 2024 at 7:33am:

So, when H5N1 "bird flu" becomes a full blown human to human transmission pandemic with a 50% CFR (Case Fatality Rate) is the government going to sit on it's hands and do nothing because "that's what the people want" or (more likely) "we're too afraid to try and introduce protections like lockdowns and mask wearing, etc." because "the people will not comply" (and it will upset the economy - but they won't say that part 'out loud', of course)? Do people need to be dropping like flies in the streets before the government even begins to think about trying to do their job (which is supposed to be "protect the population")? I wonder what would have happened during The Blitz in the Second World War if the majority of the UK population had said "No, we're not going to wear gas masks or go to bomb shelters or turn our lights out at night or black out our windows because it infringes on our freedoms"? It's a good thing we didn't have the stupid, selfish populations and weak governments that we have today back then because I'm sure the outcome of WW2 would have been very different.

hi there cult member.

use some common sense

if something had a 50 % fatality and people were dropping like flies, people would take 'personal responsibility" and they would socially distance and wear a mask and not go to the afl or to bars and clubs.

people are quite capable of assessing their own risk.
they do it all the time

they dont need some hyper anxious cult leader like dr berger to try and frighten them when they have all had covid and they didnt "drop like flies" ::) ::) ::)
 

far from it , for myself . i had to have an afternoon off work,  now thats what i call "a mild nothing burger"  ;)

I think the inquiry has been worthwhile.

It’s established the fact that if any tiers of government trying to lock us up again they are going to need a much bigger police force and military.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ooVzxXX4aRM

aquascoot wrote on Nov 1^st, 2024 at 9:46am:

hi there cult member. use some common sense if something had a 50 % fatality and people were dropping like flies, people would take 'personal responsibility" and they would socially distance and wear a mask and not go to the afl or to bars and clubs. people are quite capable of assessing their own risk. they do it all the time they dont need some hyper anxious cult leader like dr berger to try and frighten them when they have all had covid and they didnt "drop like flies" ::) ::) ::)   far from it , for myself . i had to have an afternoon off work,  now thats what i call "a mild nothing burger"  ;)

So, are you trying to say that the "chodes" who live "lives of pure garbage" and who couldn't find the "narrow road to success" even with a map and a GPS and care about no one else but themselves would suddenly start to take "personal responsibility" if H5N1 goes on the rampage (as it looks like it will do soon)?

Even without being told to do so by the government?

Fascinating.

And totally unbelievable.

And, I'd be keeping an eye out if I were you because that "mild nothing burger" that caused you to only have an afternoon off work might turn out to be something a lot more serious in the coming months and years - especially if you get infected more than once.

Also...

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1851876056908878226


Quote:

🇨🇦Canada: Risk of long COVID reaches 37% after 3 infections. The risk of long COVID is estimated at : 🔹13% after infection 🔹23% during a second infection 🔹37% during a third infection

And it increases more and more with each extra infection.

https://www.inspq.qc.ca/publications/3510

You probably don't read French but I'm sure you'll get the idea.

:)

your an idiot carl

if there was something that caused 50 % of people to die, you wouldnt need the government to tell people to take care not to catch it.

surely you arent that dense  :'( :'(

aquascoot wrote on Nov 1^st, 2024 at 10:40am:

your an idiot carl if there was something that caused 50 % of people to die, you wouldnt need the government to tell people to take care not to catch it. surely you arent that dense  :'( :'(

And.... I do believe that's another white flag you owe me.

Accepted.

Actually, I said a week or two ago that it would probably be easier for you to send me one big white flag instead of numerous little ones but it would need to be about the size of the flag on top of Parliament House in Canberra.

Here's a picture so you can see the size of it.

The pollies should have put this flag up and left it up when they surrendered to the virus and decided to 'let it rip' and infect, kill and disable people. Which it is still doing.

Mind you, it would be a constant reminder that the pandemic isn't over as well as a reminder of their incompetence and I suspect that may cause problems with the 'vow of silence' regarding all things Covid that the pollies all took at one of their Secret Squirrel National Cabinet meetings a couple of years back.

You're welcome.  :)

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Quote:

[quote]🇨🇦Canada: Risk of long COVID reaches 37% after 3 infections. The risk of long COVID is estimated at : 🔹13% after infection 🔹23% during a second infection 🔹37% during a third infection

An Ontario man in his late 40s with a history of mental illness died by euthanasia after his assisted death assessors decided that the most reasonable explanation for his physical decline was a post COVID-19 “vaccination syndrome.”

hi carl

do you think that canberra should fly the white flag along with 99.9 % of the population because you and a handful of anxiety prone cult members think they should?


doesnt that seem a little narcissistic of you and your tiny cult?

most australians havent thought about covid in the last 12 months.

ask them.

leave your dungeon where you hide out like a survivalist and go talk to the fine people at belmont plaza  ;D ;D ;D ;D

tallowood wrote on Nov 1^st, 2024 at 12:13pm:

Quote: [quote]🇨🇦Canada: Risk of long COVID reaches 37% after 3 infections. The risk of long COVID is estimated at : 🔹13% after infection 🔹23% during a second infection 🔹37% during a third infection An Ontario man in his late 40s with a history of mental illness died by euthanasia after his assisted death assessors decided that the most reasonable explanation for his physical decline was a post COVID-19 “vaccination syndrome.”

Yes, very tragic.

Also very tragic is the 7 or 8 million (official) Covid deaths since the start of the pandemic yet some people seem to be fixated on the small number of deaths and health issues caused by the vaccines (which have saved millions of lives).


aquascoot wrote on Nov 1^st, 2024 at 12:21pm:

most australians havent thought about covid in the last 12 months.

Quote:

most australians havent thought been told anything about covid in the last 12 months.

There - fixed that for you.

Way to go, Craig.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

It's about time Covid minimisers like Peter Collignon were held to account.

https://x.com/CraigWtweets/status/1852188454081441941


Quote:

Last night, we lodged formal complaints with the leadership of the Australian National University and Canberra Health Services about offensive comments by Prof. Peter Collignon. We need to know if these comments reflect their positions, practices and values

https://x.com/Adv4Inclusion/status/1852186715601125777


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Following offensive comments by Prof. Collignon on a cost-benefit approach to valuing human lives in times of crisis we have lodged formal complaints with ANU leadership & Canberra Health Services asking if these views represent their values & standards:

https://www.advocacyforinclusion.org/letters-following-public-comments-by-professor-peter-collignon/


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Published on November 1, 2024 Following the comments regarding the cost-benefit approach to valuing human lives in times of crises by Professor Peter Collignon AM during an ABC Radio Canberra on Wednesday 30 October 2024, Advocacy for Inclusion has approached both the Australian National University as well as Canberra Health Services to clarify whether such comments represent and reflect their positions, practices and values. AFI has noted their unique institutional positions and role in upholding and modelling the human rights values espoused in the ACT. We would appreciate any statements or actions these institutions are prepared to take in response to this incident.

Probably nothing will happen but it's a start.

With any luck, "Fabio Codswallop" (Nick Coatsworth) will be next.

hi there carl

human rights include the right to thrive

not just the right of old decrepit codgers like yourself and dr berger to have everyone adjust their lives to make you the centre of attention  ::) ::)

Comments on ABC Radio Canberra on Wednesday 30 October 2024 by Professor Peter
Collignon, Infectious Diseased Physician and Microbiologist at Canberra Hospital:


“If we do get [another pandemic] happening in 5- or 10-years’ time at least we’ve costed
and looked at a cost benefit. What is a life worth? Well interestingly in health
economics if you’re doing an intervention or even a vaccine a life is probably worth
$50,000 per good quality life year so when people say you can’t put a price on life in fact
health always does when they’re making decisions about allocating billions of dollars
and we need to look at that. If you’re going to actually put in severe restrictions and it’s
going to cost you billions of dollars in your economy you’ve got to look at how many lives
are you really going to save from that and what is the age of those lives. Saving a 15-year
old is different to saving an 85 year old. If you’re 85 you have a different attitude but
you’ve got to be a bit hard nosed about this in how you allocate resources in society and
how you interfere in people’s livelihoods as well as trying to make their health as well as
you can with the resources you have.”
https://www.advocacyforinclusion.org/letters-following-public-comments-by-professor-peter-collignon/


Which bit is objectionable?
And what happened to your gay rainbow avatar, Carl? AFI  IS a gay one man Canberra operation with nothing more than a primitive website.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img641/9394/yawnr.gif https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img641/9394/yawnr.gif

And...

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Carl D wrote on Nov 1^st, 2024 at 9:08pm:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img641/9394/yawnr.gif https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img641/9394/yawnr.gif And...

Don't forget your gentleman's sponge bag, Bbwian- sorry - Derek...


https://youtu.be/-hfZqbZtT6E?si=VoyyTdWOZkdxniNGp

aquascoot wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 7:09pm:

hi carl thank god for democracy it means the 99 % who think like me can tell the 1 % who think like you to bugger off  ;D ;D

:)

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Carl D wrote on Nov 1^st, 2024 at 9:15pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 7:09pm: hi carl thank god for democracy it means the 99 % who think like me can tell the 1 % who think like you to bugger off  ;D ;D :)

Very gay - asses...


https://youtu.be/Z2sySORDLjo?si=-upYKDlIbhQDnBEv

Frank wrote on Nov 1^st, 2024 at 9:14pm:

Don't forget your gentleman's sponge bag, Bbwian- sorry - Derek... https://youtu.be/-hfZqbZtT6E?si=VoyyTdWOZkdxniNGp

Frank wrote on Nov 1^st, 2024 at 9:22pm:

Very gay - asses... https://youtu.be/Z2sySORDLjo?si=-upYKDlIbhQDnBEv

Well, at least I now know who Derek is. You've called me Derek a few times in the past and even though I asked "Who's Derek?" you didn't reply.

And I've never heard of The Catherine Tate Show before.

Looks like it's hilarious. I'll have to watch some more on YouTube.  :)

Frank wrote on Nov 1^st, 2024 at 9:00pm:

Comments on ABC Radio Canberra on Wednesday 30 October 2024 by Professor Peter Collignon, Infectious Diseased Physician and Microbiologist at Canberra Hospital: “If we do get [another pandemic] happening in 5- or 10-years’ time at least we’ve costed and looked at a cost benefit. What is a life worth? Well interestingly in health economics if you’re doing an intervention or even a vaccine a life is probably worth $50,000 per good quality life year so when people say you can’t put a price on life in fact health always does when they’re making decisions about allocating billions of dollars and we need to look at that. If you’re going to actually put in severe restrictions and it’s going to cost you billions of dollars in your economy you’ve got to look at how many lives are you really going to save from that and what is the age of those lives. Saving a 15-year old is different to saving an 85 year old. If you’re 85 you have a different attitude but you’ve got to be a bit hard nosed about this in how you allocate resources in society and how you interfere in people’s livelihoods as well as trying to make their health as well as you can with the resources you have.” https://www.advocacyforinclusion.org/letters-following-public-comments-by-professor-peter-collignon/ Which bit is objectionable? And what happened to your gay rainbow avatar, Carl? AFI  IS a gay one man Canberra operation with nothing more than a primitive website.

sounds sensible

they stop breast screening and poop screening at 74.

if you are older, they dont think its worthwhile screening

they stop medicare rebates for knee MRI's at 50.

kids knees are valuable

older dudes knees are not as valuable

a new car is worth more then a clapped out clunker

surely this is obvious

its why they have young  migrants

replacing old useless codgers with workers

you cant get a migrant visa if you are old and clapped out

I believe this sums up Australia's sham of a Covid Inquiry pretty well:

Australian COVID inquiry promotes “let it rip,” denounces public health measures

Oscar Grenfell
1 November 2024


Quote:

The report of a government commissioned inquiry into Australia’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic was released on Tuesday. The inquiry spanned a year. The report runs to 892 pages. It is, however, completely worthless from an analytical or scientific standpoint, adding nothing to an understanding of pandemics and public health in general, or the experience of COVID-19 in particular. Instead, the report is a crude promotion of the profit-driven “let it rip” policies that persist to this day. It is noteworthy only as yet another marker of the assault on public health and the rights of the population that this homicidal program has entailed.

Quote:

The government selected a three-person panel that was always going to arrive at the conclusion Butler had already outlined. Robyn Kruk, who has been in the upper echelons of the public sector bureaucracy, working with pro-business governments for decades, was its chair. Economist Dr Angela Jackson was on the panel. The only individual of the three with medical expertise was Professor Catherine Bennett, Deakin University chair of epidemiology. Throughout the pandemic, Bennett was one of the epidemiologists who most aggressively supported the lifting of public health measures and insisted that the population would have to “live with the virus.” Under conditions where many principled epidemiologists and doctors sharply denounced this policy, the selection of Bennett as the sole public health expert on the panel made a mockery of its purported independence.

Quote:

Most fundamentally, the report presents the COVID-19 crisis entirely as a thing of the past. In a document supposedly about official preparedness for pandemics, the pandemic that continues is all but ignored. With the dismantling of official testing and reporting across the country, case numbers and other metrics are almost impossible to track. But it is clear that the virus continues to spread. In fact, COVID-contributed fatalities this year have occurred at a rate of 497.5 per month, barely lower than the 512 per month recorded in 2023. Other basic elements of the pandemic are simply ignored. The fact that COVID deaths resulted in the first decline in Australian life expectancy in at least 50 years does not rate a mention. To the extent that the mass deaths are referenced, more than 25,000 official COVID fatalities, it is in the coldest and most unsympathetic manner.

A complete and utter sham... just what the government wanted.

Disgraceful stuff.

Dr. Andrew Miller's thoughts on Australia's sham of a Covid Inquiry:

https://x.com/drajm/status/1853217866952376820


Quote:

My initial thoughts on the Covid Response Inquiry report. Interesting reading. Electing leaders who care for people seems to be the smartest approach to future pandemics cos politics will trump a CDC. My thoughts in @westaustralian this week

Dr. Andrew Miller.

Past Pres Aust Soc of Anaesthetists, & AMA WA. Columnist @WestAustralian.

https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/government-data-reveals-historic

Government Data Reveals Historic Death Surge Among Vaccinated Population in Australia

Official government data has revealed that Australia has suffered a historic surge
of all-cause excess deaths among the nation’s universally Covid-vaccinated population.

Lioness of Judah Ministry
Nov 05, 2024