Despite recent polls giving former President Donald Trump an edge in the 2024 presidential election, American University professor Dr. Allan Lichtman is standing by his prediction that Vice President Kamala Harris will come out on top.

Lichtman, 77, has been dubbed by some the election “Nostradamus” due to his track record of predicting nine of the past 10 presidential contests.

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/election-nostradamus-stands-by-us-election-prediction-that-kamala-harris-will-beat-donald-trump/news-story/6417184de684e4057e6dee779029eefc

Let’s hope he’s right and Trump loses, and loses convincingly!

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 10:32am:

Let’s hope he’s right and Trump loses, and loses convincingly!

Indeed.

Not that a convincing win would stop him from challenging the results.

Even if Harris wins with 450 electoral college votes, and a 20,000,000 vote lead in the popular vote, the rapist & convicted felon will still say that he won and he'll still dog whistle his cult members to start violent riots.


Democratic nominee Kamala Harris will be the next president of the United States and beat Republican rival Donald Trump on Election Day, or so historian and election forecaster Allan Lichtman still predicts.

Known for correctly predicting the results of the last nine out of 10 presidential elections, Lichtman said on his YouTube channel Tuesday night that his prediction has not changed, despite Democratic nominee Harris' leads in battleground states shrinking and polls being nail-bitingly close.

"Nothing has changed to change my prediction that I made on Sept. 5," Lichtman said, "in defiance of the polls."

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 10:32am:

Let’s hope he’s right and Trump loses, and loses convincingly!

You can't say that, Armchair, it's hate speech.

Mr Trump is running a positive campaign. Did you see his rally?

Melania held his hand and let him kiss her on the cheek. They were all there. Elon, Don Jnr, Dr Phil, Hulk Hogan. There was so much love in the room.

I'm not sure where Rudy was. Steve Bannon's still in jail. Mike Pence is lying low, hiding from the base.

As you do. When Mr Trump gets in, he's going to purge the Enemy Within. Dems, RINOs, the fakers, the lot. We're talking mass arrests on Day 1. Mr Trump will be our Dictator for a Day.

It's going to be beautiful, Armchair, you'll see.

DRAIN THE SWAMP !!!

Enlarge the swamp. Suck everybody in. Make everybody suck until they are tired of sucking.

Obama's tan suit was a cloak of invisibility in the swamp. The creatures couldn't see what trickery the cleverly disguised white Obama was up to.

The poop-chute of history still has Karnal scheduled for a splashdown next to Greggy at a McDonalds on Novmber 6.

It's looking very likely that Trump will win, the system, is weighted towards him and the Republicans more so than the will of the people.

But we'll see.

Biden got 7 million more votes than Trump in 2020, it could happen again for Harris.

The GOP has been getting out the vote. Encouraging their supporters to vote early. Much of the 50 million early vote could be GOP.

It could be a Trump landslide.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 11:22am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 10:32am: Let’s hope he’s right and Trump loses, and loses convincingly! Indeed. Not that a convincing win would stop him from challenging the results. Even if Harris wins with 450 electoral college votes, and a 20,000,000 vote lead in the popular vote, the rapist & convicted felon will still say that he won and he'll still dog whistle his cult members to start violent riots. Democratic nominee Kamala Harris will be the next president of the United States and beat Republican rival Donald Trump on Election Day, or so historian and election forecaster Allan Lichtman still predicts. Known for correctly predicting the results of the last nine out of 10 presidential elections, Lichtman said on his YouTube channel Tuesday night that his prediction has not changed, despite Democratic nominee Harris' leads in battleground states shrinking and polls being nail-bitingly close. "Nothing has changed to change my prediction that I made on Sept. 5," Lichtman said, "in defiance of the polls."

Now now, Greggery. Mr Trump has promised to stand by the results of the election, believe me.

If it's rigged, that's another matter. Mr Trump needs to protect the will of the people. That's his job. As prez, remember, Mr Trump swore to protect the Constitution.

Mr Trump has recruited a few alternative delegates, just in case. He's also got a few friendly election officials in the swing states, at the local county level. They're there to run a fair election, Greggery. They'll be checking votes for fakery. Unlike previous elections, Illegals, dead voters and pets will not be allowed.

If the leftards cause any problems, Mr Trump's got Mike in Congress and his friends in the Supreme Court. You'll see, when Mr Trump wins, he'll honour the result of the election.

I trust this puts the matter to rest.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 10:31am:

Despite recent polls giving former President Donald Trump an edge in the 2024 presidential election, American University professor Dr. Allan Lichtman is standing by his prediction that Vice President Kamala Harris will come out on top. Lichtman, 77, has been dubbed by some the election “Nostradamus” due to his track record of predicting nine of the past 10 presidential contests. https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/election-nostradamus-stands-by-us-election-prediction-that-kamala-harris-will-beat-donald-trump/news-story/6417184de684e4057e6dee779029eefc

And Lichtman argues 10 out of 10 - that the 2000 election was, yep(!), stolen from Gore by the US Supreme Court when it prematurely stopped the Florida recount with Bush a few hundred votes ahead. At the time Jeb Bush, George W's brother, was the Governor of Florida.

Also, Lichtman's model has been successfully retroactively applied to every US election since Abraham Lincoln's in 1860.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 11:40am:

Enlarge the swamp. Suck everybody in. Make everybody suck until they are tired of sucking. Obama's tan suit was a cloak of invisibility in the swamp. The creatures couldn't see what trickery the cleverly disguised white Obama was up to. The poop-chute of history still has Karnal scheduled for a splashdown next to Greggy at a McDonalds on Novmber 6.

White? Hussein Obama is from deepest, darkest Africa. Mr Trump had investigators over in Kenya, remember. They came up with stuff that would blow your mind.

Mr Trump will release it in due course, along with his medical report, his tax returns and the Epstein Client List.

DEEP STATE !!!

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 11:49am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 10:31am: Despite recent polls giving former President Donald Trump an edge in the 2024 presidential election, American University professor Dr. Allan Lichtman is standing by his prediction that Vice President Kamala Harris will come out on top. Lichtman, 77, has been dubbed by some the election “Nostradamus” due to his track record of predicting nine of the past 10 presidential contests. https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/election-nostradamus-stands-by-us-election-prediction-that-kamala-harris-will-beat-donald-trump/news-story/6417184de684e4057e6dee779029eefc And Lichtman argues 10 out of 10 - that the 2000 election was, yep(!), stolen from Gore by the US Supreme Court when it prematurely stopped the Florida recount with Bush a few hundred votes ahead. At the time Jeb Bush, George W's brother, was the Governor of Florida. Also, Lichtman's model has been successfully retroactively applied to every US election since Abraham Lincoln's in 1860.

It's certainly a very good model (although he oversells it a bit), and he might very well be right again this year.

However, even if Harris wins the electoral college, I doubt very much that we'll see her inaugurated in January 2025.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 12:01pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 11:49am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 10:31am: Despite recent polls giving former President Donald Trump an edge in the 2024 presidential election, American University professor Dr. Allan Lichtman is standing by his prediction that Vice President Kamala Harris will come out on top. Lichtman, 77, has been dubbed by some the election “Nostradamus” due to his track record of predicting nine of the past 10 presidential contests. https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/election-nostradamus-stands-by-us-election-prediction-that-kamala-harris-will-beat-donald-trump/news-story/6417184de684e4057e6dee779029eefc And Lichtman argues 10 out of 10 - that the 2000 election was, yep(!), stolen from Gore by the US Supreme Court when it prematurely stopped the Florida recount with Bush a few hundred votes ahead. At the time Jeb Bush, George W's brother, was the Governor of Florida. Also, Lichtman's model has been successfully retroactively applied to every US election since Abraham Lincoln's in 1860. It's certainly a very good model (although he oversells it a bit), and he might very well be right again this year. However, even if Harris wins the electoral college, I doubt very much that we'll see her inaugurated in January 2025.

Greggy will not have a clear line of sight from McDonalds even if his associate Karnal lifts Greggy on his shoulders.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 12:01pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 11:49am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 10:31am: Despite recent polls giving former President Donald Trump an edge in the 2024 presidential election, American University professor Dr. Allan Lichtman is standing by his prediction that Vice President Kamala Harris will come out on top. Lichtman, 77, has been dubbed by some the election “Nostradamus” due to his track record of predicting nine of the past 10 presidential contests. https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/election-nostradamus-stands-by-us-election-prediction-that-kamala-harris-will-beat-donald-trump/news-story/6417184de684e4057e6dee779029eefc And Lichtman argues 10 out of 10 - that the 2000 election was, yep(!), stolen from Gore by the US Supreme Court when it prematurely stopped the Florida recount with Bush a few hundred votes ahead. At the time Jeb Bush, George W's brother, was the Governor of Florida. Also, Lichtman's model has been successfully retroactively applied to every US election since Abraham Lincoln's in 1860. It's certainly a very good model (although he oversells it a bit), and he might very well be right again this year.

A 'very good model'?? 'oversells it'??

It has arguably been successfully applied to every US Federal election since 1860.

What standard would qualify as excellent to you?

How can you oversell a perfect record?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 12:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 12:01pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 11:49am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 10:31am: Despite recent polls giving former President Donald Trump an edge in the 2024 presidential election, American University professor Dr. Allan Lichtman is standing by his prediction that Vice President Kamala Harris will come out on top. Lichtman, 77, has been dubbed by some the election “Nostradamus” due to his track record of predicting nine of the past 10 presidential contests. https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/election-nostradamus-stands-by-us-election-prediction-that-kamala-harris-will-beat-donald-trump/news-story/6417184de684e4057e6dee779029eefc And Lichtman argues 10 out of 10 - that the 2000 election was, yep(!), stolen from Gore by the US Supreme Court when it prematurely stopped the Florida recount with Bush a few hundred votes ahead. At the time Jeb Bush, George W's brother, was the Governor of Florida. Also, Lichtman's model has been successfully retroactively applied to every US election since Abraham Lincoln's in 1860. It's certainly a very good model (although he oversells it a bit), and he might very well be right again this year. A 'very good model'?? 'oversells it'?? It has arguably been successfully applied to every US Federal election since 1860. What standard would qualify as excellent to you? How can you oversell a perfect record?

His record is exemplary.

But nobody can actually predict the future.

He seems to think his model is infallible, which it obviously isn't.

It's by far the best model out there.

I hope he maintains his perfect record. I'm behind him 100%.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 12:15pm:

His record is exemplary. But nobody can actually predict the future. He seems to think his model is infallible, which it obviously isn't.

So you haven't listened to Lichtman, then.

He emphasises that his model cannot infallibly predict the future.

In his own words:

'Can my prediction be wrong? Of course it can. There can always be an event that is so catastrophic that it changes the outcome of an election. And I'm not so arrogant, like Speaker Mike Johnson - that the Almighty speaks to me from on high... But I stick with the model. I don't change it on the fly, and so far it has proved to be 100% accurate'.

He reiterates that in almost every interview and discussion of his keys, he's had all year.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 12:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 12:15pm: His record is exemplary. But nobody can actually predict the future. He seems to think his model is infallible, which it obviously isn't. So you haven't listened to Lichtman, then.

I sure have.

Dozens and dozens of interviews.

I hope he's right - I'm behind him 100%.

He'll be right about the popular vote, that's for sure.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 12:28pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 12:25pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 12:15pm: His record is exemplary. But nobody can actually predict the future. He seems to think his model is infallible, which it obviously isn't. So you haven't listened to Lichtman, then. I sure have. Dozens and dozens of interviews. I hope he's right - I'm behind him 100%. He'll be right about the popular vote, that's for sure.

So he doesn't think or claim his model is infallible, then?

Something more dark and disturbing is that Lichtman says, in the 40 years he's been using his model publicly, this is the first time he's experienced a degree of vitriol against him so great that it has threatened his and his family's safety - that he's had to resort to enhancing his security for them and himself.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 12:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 12:28pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 12:25pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 12:15pm: His record is exemplary. But nobody can actually predict the future. He seems to think his model is infallible, which it obviously isn't. So you haven't listened to Lichtman, then. I sure have. Dozens and dozens of interviews. I hope he's right - I'm behind him 100%. He'll be right about the popular vote, that's for sure. So he doesn't think or claim his model is infallible, then?

Perhaps I should have said that some media outlets oversell it a bit  :)

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 12:47pm:

Something more dark and disturbing is that Lichtman says, in the 40 years he's been using his model publicly, this is the first time he's experienced a degree of vitriol against him so great that it has threatened his and his family's safety - that he's had to resort to enhancing his security for them and himself.

Yep.  Disgusting.

He makes a purely objective/non-partisan prediction, and the MAGA mob turns violent (as they always do).

Even if it was a subjective/partisan opinion, and he personally declared that he would really love to see Harris win, how does any sane person think that that justifies threats of violence?

“I’ve endured constant criticism for 42 years – I have never experienced the kind of hate that I have gotten this year,” Prof Lichtman told The National, two weeks before the 2024 US presidential election on November 5.

“I’ve gotten the most scurrilous, the most vulgar, the most violent, the most threatening type of feedback this time and I think it has to do with the kind of toxic politics since the advent of Donald Trump. We had nothing like that before Donald Trump.”

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 12:54pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 12:41pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 12:28pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 12:25pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 12:15pm: His record is exemplary. But nobody can actually predict the future. He seems to think his model is infallible, which it obviously isn't. So you haven't listened to Lichtman, then. I sure have. Dozens and dozens of interviews. I hope he's right - I'm behind him 100%. He'll be right about the popular vote, that's for sure. So he doesn't think or claim his model is infallible, then? Perhaps I should have said that some media outlets oversell it a bit  :)

Actually, nearly all media outlets massively undersell it, relying instead on two-horse-race reporting via polls that change daily (hourly, even!), which Lichtman rails against.

He calls it the pollster-media-political complex - a reference to Eisenhower's Military-Industrial complex. There a truckload of cash at stake by daily reporting of polls that pollsters and the media make during an election cycle by treating the election like a horse race. Politicians buy into it as it keeps their message fresh in the minds of voters.

Having said that, if Lichtman's model's predictions were the end of it, there might be a serious risk that many Americans wouldn't bother voting if it's a 'done deal', so the constant media focus via polls keeps the general public edgy and active - the weakness of non-mandatory voting!

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 11:44am:

It's looking very likely that Trump will win, the system, is weighted towards him and the Republicans more so than the will of the people. But we'll see. Biden got 7 million more votes than Trump in 2020, it could happen again for Harris.

Biden made a mistake today, calling Trump supporters "garbage"... even worse than Hillary's "deplorables" in 2016...

Whereas Trump sounded presidential at his rally:

"African Americans, Latinos, Arab Amercans, they are all coming over to us, we will unite the country and MAGA"...

Not a good comparison for Harris /Dems.   

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 1:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 12:54pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 12:41pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 12:28pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 12:25pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 12:15pm: His record is exemplary. But nobody can actually predict the future. He seems to think his model is infallible, which it obviously isn't. So you haven't listened to Lichtman, then. I sure have. Dozens and dozens of interviews. I hope he's right - I'm behind him 100%. He'll be right about the popular vote, that's for sure. So he doesn't think or claim his model is infallible, then? Perhaps I should have said that some media outlets oversell it a bit  :) Actually, nearly all media outlets massively undersell it, relying instead on two-horse-race reporting via polls that change daily (hourly, even!), which Lichtman rails against. He calls it the pollster-media-political complex - a reference to Eisenhower's Military-Industrial complex. There a truckload of cash at stake by daily reporting of polls that pollsters and the media make during an election cycle by treating the election like a horse race. Politicians buy into it as it keeps their message fresh in the minds of voters. Having said that, if Lichtman's model's predictions were the end of it, there might be a serious risk that many Americans wouldn't bother voting if it's a 'done deal', so the constant media focus via polls keeps the general public edgy and active - the weakness of non-mandatory voting!

Indeed.

This race will come down to which candidate can get their supporters off the couch.

Which is the biggest motivator - hatred or fear?

Trump supporters will get off the couch because they despise Kamala (and all women & people of colour) so much.  They really don't care about Trump's policies (or lack thereof) - it's all about hate.

Harris supporters will go out and vote because they're genuinely worried about what Trump will do to the country.

55 million people have already voted.

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 1:20pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 11:44am: It's looking very likely that Trump will win, the system, is weighted towards him and the Republicans more so than the will of the people. But we'll see. Biden got 7 million more votes than Trump in 2020, it could happen again for Harris. Biden made a mistake today, calling Trump supporters "garbage"... even worse than Hillary's "deplorables" in 2016...

Despite her 'deplorables' comment, she still received more votes than the rapist & convicted felon in 2016.

Millions more.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 1:28pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 1:20pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 11:44am: It's looking very likely that Trump will win, the system, is weighted towards him and the Republicans more so than the will of the people. But we'll see. Biden got 7 million more votes than Trump in 2020, it could happen again for Harris. Biden made a mistake today, calling Trump supporters "garbage"... even worse than Hillary's "deplorables" in 2016... Despite her 'deplorables' comment, she still received more votes than the rapist & convicted felon in 2016. Millions more.

Hillary Clinton is an evil cow who was rightly splashed down in the wilderness by the poop-chute of history.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 1:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 1:28pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 1:20pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 11:44am: It's looking very likely that Trump will win, the system, is weighted towards him and the Republicans more so than the will of the people. But we'll see. Biden got 7 million more votes than Trump in 2020, it could happen again for Harris. Biden made a mistake today, calling Trump supporters "garbage"... even worse than Hillary's "deplorables" in 2016... Despite her 'deplorables' comment, she still received more votes than the rapist & convicted felon in 2016. Millions more. Hillary Clinton is an evil cow who was rightly splashed down in the wilderness by the poop-chute of history.

And still the American people preferred her over the rapist & convicted criminal.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 12:47pm:

Something more dark and disturbing is that Lichtman says, in the 40 years he's been using his model publicly, this is the first time he's experienced a degree of vitriol against him so great that it has threatened his and his family's safety - that he's had to resort to enhancing his security for them and himself.

Yes: the rise of China/Asia under neoclassical-determined  WTO rules pauperized  American blue-collar workers, and neither Repubs nor Dems did anything about it before Trump was president.

The 'dismal science' directed by flat-earth neoclassical economic orthodoxy has split the US into two hate-filled camps, neither of which understands the cause of  the American rust belt and its concurrent weakening of US global hegemony.   

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 1:33pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 1:32pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 1:28pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 1:20pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 11:44am: It's looking very likely that Trump will win, the system, is weighted towards him and the Republicans more so than the will of the people. But we'll see. Biden got 7 million more votes than Trump in 2020, it could happen again for Harris. Biden made a mistake today, calling Trump supporters "garbage"... even worse than Hillary's "deplorables" in 2016... Despite her 'deplorables' comment, she still received more votes than the rapist & convicted felon in 2016. Millions more. Hillary Clinton is an evil cow who was rightly splashed down in the wilderness by the poop-chute of history. And still the American people preferred her over the rapist & convicted criminal.

Clinton lost the election.

Fat cow Harris is going to lose as well. The GOP focused on increasing the runout of GOP voters which will overwhelm Harris's support.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 1:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 1:33pm: Laugh till you cry wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 1:32pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 1:28pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 1:20pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 11:44am: It's looking very likely that Trump will win, the system, is weighted towards him and the Republicans more so than the will of the people. But we'll see. Biden got 7 million more votes than Trump in 2020, it could happen again for Harris. Biden made a mistake today, calling Trump supporters "garbage"... even worse than Hillary's "deplorables" in 2016... Despite her 'deplorables' comment, she still received more votes than the rapist & convicted felon in 2016. Millions more. Hillary Clinton is an evil cow who was rightly splashed down in the wilderness by the poop-chute of history. And still the American people preferred her over the rapist & convicted criminal. Clinton lost the election.

Try to focus, and don't change the subject.

No matter how bad Clinton might or might not have been, American voters preferred her over the rapist & convicted criminal.

Millions more Americans preferred her.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 1:43pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 1:40pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 1:33pm: Laugh till you cry wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 1:32pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 1:28pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 1:20pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 11:44am: It's looking very likely that Trump will win, the system, is weighted towards him and the Republicans more so than the will of the people. But we'll see. Biden got 7 million more votes than Trump in 2020, it could happen again for Harris. Biden made a mistake today, calling Trump supporters "garbage"... even worse than Hillary's "deplorables" in 2016... Despite her 'deplorables' comment, she still received more votes than the rapist & convicted felon in 2016. Millions more. Hillary Clinton is an evil cow who was rightly splashed down in the wilderness by the poop-chute of history. And still the American people preferred her over the rapist & convicted criminal. Clinton lost the election. Try to focus, and don't change the subject. No matter how bad Clinton might or might not have been, American voters preferred her over the rapist & convicted criminal. Millions more Americans preferred her.

Confession: living dangerously, I'm secretly hoping Trump just scrapes in, which will likely bring the whole rotten global neoclassical economic system crashing down, as Trump scraps taxes, raises tarrifs, and "drill baby, drill.."

And dumb '50%+1' democracy is increasingly brought into disrepute. 

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 10:31am:

Despite recent polls giving former President Donald Trump an edge in the 2024 presidential election, American University professor Dr. Allan Lichtman is standing by his prediction that Vice President Kamala Harris will come out on top. Lichtman, 77, has been dubbed by some the election “Nostradamus” due to his track record of predicting nine of the past 10 presidential contests. https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/election-nostradamus-stands-by-us-election-prediction-that-kamala-harris-will-beat-donald-trump/news-story/6417184de684e4057e6dee779029eefc

ABC station "mistakenly" airs election results declaring Harris winner of key swing state

Published Oct. 30, 2024, 4:30 p.m. ET

An ABC station ignited a flurry of conspiracy theories after it aired what appeared to be official election results for Pennsylvania that showed Kamala Harris easily winning the key swing state — more than a week before Election Day.

The shocking result popped up at the bottom of the screen during Sunday’s broadcast of the Formula 1 Mexico Grand Prix by ABC local affiliate WNEP-TV, which services the northern part of the Keystone State.

It showed the Vice President capturing 52% of the votes, compared to 47% for Republican challenger Donald Trump, with 100% of the precincts reporting.
https://nypost.com/2024/10/30/media/abc-mistakenly-airs-fake-election-results-declaring-harris-winner-of-key-swing-state/

Of course it's rigged. Everyone knows it's rigged.

Frank wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 2:28pm:

Of course it's rigged. Everyone knows it's rigged.

Yet still no evidence.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 2:36pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 2:28pm: Of course it's rigged. Everyone knows it's rigged. Yet still no evidence.

ABC station "mistakenly" airs election results declaring Harris winner of key swing state

Published Oct. 30, 2024, 4:30 p.m. ET

An ABC station ignited a flurry of conspiracy theories after it aired what appeared to be official election results for Pennsylvania that showed Kamala Harris easily winning the key swing state — more than a week before Election Day.

The shocking result popped up at the bottom of the screen during Sunday’s broadcast of the Formula 1 Mexico Grand Prix by ABC local affiliate WNEP-TV, which services the northern part of the Keystone State.

It showed the Vice President capturing 52% of the votes, compared to 47% for Republican challenger Donald Trump, with 100% of the precincts reporting.

https://nypost.com/2024/10/30/media/abc-mistakenly-airs-fake-election-results-declaring-harris-winner-of-key-swing-state/

Frank wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 2:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 2:36pm: Frank wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 2:28pm: Of course it's rigged. Everyone knows it's rigged. Yet still no evidence. ABC station "mistakenly" airs election results declaring Harris winner of key swing state Published Oct. 30, 2024, 4:30 p.m. ET An ABC station ignited a flurry of conspiracy theories after it aired what appeared to be official election results for Pennsylvania that showed Kamala Harris easily winning the key swing state — more than a week before Election Day. The shocking result popped up at the bottom of the screen during Sunday’s broadcast of the Formula 1 Mexico Grand Prix by ABC local affiliate WNEP-TV, which services the northern part of the Keystone State. It showed the Vice President capturing 52% of the votes, compared to 47% for Republican challenger Donald Trump, with 100% of the precincts reporting. https://nypost.com/2024/10/30/media/abc-mistakenly-airs-fake-election-results-de...

Still no evidence of a rigged election.

Why won't you show us the proof?

I'm curious.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 2:37pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 2:36pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 2:36pm: Frank wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 2:28pm: Of course it's rigged. Everyone knows it's rigged. Yet still no evidence. ABC station "mistakenly" airs election results declaring Harris winner of key swing state Published Oct. 30, 2024, 4:30 p.m. ET An ABC station ignited a flurry of conspiracy theories after it aired what appeared to be official election results for Pennsylvania that showed Kamala Harris easily winning the key swing state — more than a week before Election Day. The shocking result popped up at the bottom of the screen during Sunday’s broadcast of the Formula 1 Mexico Grand Prix by ABC local affiliate WNEP-TV, which services the northern part of the Keystone State. It showed the Vice President capturing 52% of the votes, compared to 47% for Republican challenger Donald Trump, with 100% of the precincts reporting. https://nypost.com/2024/10/30/media/abc-mistakenly-airs-fake-election-results-de... Still no evidence of a rigged election. Why won't you show us the proof? I'm curious.

Just did, lying, hypocritical creep. You even quoted it just now.

Frank wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 2:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 2:37pm: Frank wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 2:36pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 2:36pm: Frank wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 2:28pm: Of course it's rigged. Everyone knows it's rigged. Yet still no evidence. ABC station "mistakenly" airs election results declaring Harris winner of key swing state Published Oct. 30, 2024, 4:30 p.m. ET An ABC station ignited a flurry of conspiracy theories after it aired what appeared to be official election results for Pennsylvania that showed Kamala Harris easily winning the key swing state — more than a week before Election Day. The shocking result popped up at the bottom of the screen during Sunday’s broadcast of the Formula 1 Mexico Grand Prix by ABC local affiliate WNEP-TV, which services the northern part of the Keystone State. It showed the Vice President capturing 52% of the votes, compared to 47% for Republican challenger Donald Trump, with 100% of the precincts reporting. https://nypost.com/2024/10/30/media/abc-mistakenly-airs-fake-election-results-de... Still no evidence of a rigged election. Why won't you show us the proof? I'm curious. Just did, lying, hypocritical creep. You even quoted it just now.

That's not evidence of a rigged election.

It's evidence that a TV station made a mistake.

Why won't you prove your rigged election theory?

I'm curious.

Allan Lichtman's assessment (he does NOT call it a prediction) using the US States map, is that the Democrats will win by at least 283 electoral college votes (270 needed to win).

He has left Pennsylvania out of his assessment as early voting is low making it too hard to assess.

If Pennsylvania goes 'blue' early, it's all over for the Republicans and the election will be a landslide to the Democrats.

Lichtman stressed that his keys do not predict states-based outcomes - his assessment is based on what data there is available on early voting numbers, party affiliation and gender aggregated numbers per state.

Votes are not counted until election day....Trump and his MAGA cult are claiming fraud even before a vote is counted....Be prepared for another insurection when Trump looses!!!

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philperth2010 wrote on Nov 1^st, 2024 at 3:01pm:

Votes are not counted until election day....Trump and his MAGA cult are claiming fraud even before a vote is counted....Be prepared for another insurection when Trump looses!!!

Yes, national and state early voting published figures only indicate voter registration - Democrat, Republican or other/unknown/no affiliation.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/early-vote

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 1^st, 2024 at 3:01pm:

Votes are not counted until election day....Trump and his MAGA cult are claiming fraud even before a vote is counted....Be prepared for another insurrection when Trump looses!!!

An even deadlier insurrection.

He'll claim victory quite early on election night, when most people are still awake (much earlier than he did in 2020).

If the final count, a few days later, reveals Harris as the winner he'll say it was rigged and then instruct his cult members to take violent action.

We know that this is exactly what's going to happen because he and Steve Bannon have told us so.

By the way, is Sloppy Steve out of prison yet?  :-/

Lichtman Live:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT5Aqj2dUKA

Frank wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 2:28pm:

Of course it's rigged. Everyone knows it's rigged.

Ah.

So you're saying Trump isn't really the winner.

I see.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 10:31am:

Despite recent polls giving former President Donald Trump an edge in the 2024 presidential election, American University professor Dr. Allan Lichtman is standing by his prediction that Vice President Kamala Harris will come out on top. Lichtman, 77, has been dubbed by some the election “Nostradamus” due to his track record of predicting nine of the past 10 presidential contests. https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/election-nostradamus-stands-by-us-election-prediction-that-kamala-harris-will-beat-donald-trump/news-story/6417184de684e4057e6dee779029eefc

Armchair is forgiven for following a false prophet.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 6^th, 2024 at 7:29pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 2:28pm: Of course it's rigged. Everyone knows it's rigged. Ah. So you're saying Trump isn't really the winner. I see.

You are lying and distorting as always, despicable creep.


The full post:
ABC station "mistakenly" airs election results declaring Harris winner of key swing state

Published Oct. 30, 2024, 4:30 p.m. ET

An ABC station ignited a flurry of conspiracy theories after it aired what appeared to be official election results for Pennsylvania that showed Kamala Harris easily winning the key swing state — more than a week before Election Day.

The shocking result popped up at the bottom of the screen during Sunday’s broadcast of the Formula 1 Mexico Grand Prix by ABC local affiliate WNEP-TV, which services the northern part of the Keystone State.

It showed the Vice President capturing 52% of the votes, compared to 47% for Republican challenger Donald Trump, with 100% of the precincts reporting.
https://nypost.com/2024/10/30/media/abc-mistakenly-airs-fake-election-results-de...

Of course it's rigged. Everyone knows it's rigged.



Obviouysly referring to the Big Media reporting which of course has been rigged. Putting Kackela ahead was a Big Media lie. A rigged, deliberate lie. Poor sods like Sprinty lapped it up as you, karnal and others peddled the lies.

Indeed I did - many times... Grapplerdamus has spoken.

I TOLD YOU SO