Wangany Mala documentary screened in NT and Bali explores pre-colonial trade between north-east Arnhem Land and Indonesia 8-)

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 10:00am:

Wangany Mala documentary screened in NT and Bali explores pre-colonial trade between north-east Arnhem Land and Indonesia 8-)

That seems really interesting,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbupG90wwfE

Thanks for posting.

A documentary about pre-colonial trade between Indonesians and some Indigenous Australians, it's an interesting topic.

But since the subject focuses on Indigenous Australians and Muslim people without belittling or degrading them, let me be clear, without naming any names, this will unsettle the usual suspects.

It's a shame, because it's an interesting topic.  I hope the documentary is released for general consumption soon.

Deep the paranoia runs within this one....

The campaign to unsettle their petal psyches is working beyond expectations... all they have to see is a headline and off they go.... yardle, yardle, yardle... before anyone even arrives to discuss it....

Wouldn't your time be better spent out there working for some better ideas to help your Aboriginal brethren and sisthren, and maybe mentoring some of them in the proper ways?  Maybe you could coach them in a sport and the ideals of sportsmanship and citizenship and responsibility....

What kind of personal specialty do YOU have, Kangala?  Maybe go learn one and pass on skills and social interaction skills... maybe prevail upon aqua's daughter to  hold an annual boot camp or something for them.... maybe get some Federal and State funding... get together with some genuine Elders (not the Blactivist type of loser), develop a few programs... a little meditation on a hillside.... a quiet country retreat to learn skills and such... socialise...

You'd be a lot better off yourself than coming here and exploding your ulcers trying to get at those who are in the right as regards equality and equal treatment, etc.... trying to undermine those genuinely seeking resolutions for problems, starting with finding where the money is going...

This from a NSW MP:-

"It’s hard to fathom how far we’ve fallen as a society when a violent offender is treated as an honoured guest in the very court where he stands accused of terrorising our community’s most vulnerable.

This week, in Taree District Court, an Indigenous (I say Aboriginal - I'm 7 generations or so Indigenous) teenager who pleaded guilty to robbing two elderly women—one 92 and the other 88—was invited to perform a Welcome to Country before being sentenced.

This is a young man who admitted to not only breaking into their homes but also to sexually touching one of these women during his terrifying invasion.

Yet, despite the gravity of his offences, the judge invited him to perform this welcome—a shocking display of misplaced priorities.

Think about the message this sends. It is almost beyond belief.

It is an appalling failure of the judge to prioritise the wellbeing of victims, the integrity of our justice system, and simple common decency.

We are all equal under the law. And the court is there to enforce the law and protect our most vulnerable.

Let's do away with the virtue signalling."

This kind of rubbish is nowhere near a good start...   ;)  ;)  ;)

U-Sus #1 has entered the chat, contributed nothing to the topic, as expected.

Move along Crappler, your usual disparaging remarks towards Indigenous people aren't needed here.

Now then - for the learned and deep comment:-

This could be interesting to watch - I do hope that the Usual Suspects don't blow a gasket about any ideas or interpretations that might sound remotely critical of their pets... the moment they see a headline like this, their deep-seated paranoia sets in and they see White Sheets under every bed .....  oooOOOOOOOOHHHH!

Think I'll start a new strand here called "Aboriginal Culture 101" - to give the plebs a chance to voice their ideas on 'Aboriginal Culture'... some here reckon they know it all........ now...................... which of the 1100 odd groups do they want to start with?   Ummmmm ...

One way trade - trepang for whatever the Indos (Moluccans) gave them.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 1:10pm:

Now then - for the learned and deep comment:- This could be interesting to watch - I do hope that the Usual Suspects don't blow a gasket about any ideas or interpretations that might sound remotely critical of their pets... the moment they see a headline like this, their deep-seated paranoia sets in and they see White Sheets under every bed .....  oooOOOOOOOOHHHH! Think I'll start a new strand here called "Aboriginal Culture 101" - to give the plebs a chance to voice their ideas on 'Aboriginal Culture'... some here reckon they know it all........ now...................... which of the 1100 odd groups do they want to start with?   Ummmmm ...

You're just modifying people quotes so you can argue with yourself now...

I suppose it's better than accidentally admitting that you're not interested in discussion, only trying to trap people by their comments you demand they make while refusing the reciprocity required to form a discussion and having the cheek to make demands.

Whooooooops!

Shot yourself in the foot, again.

Deep runs the paranoia in this one.... the desperate need to try to cling to something from the disastrous defeat... now he sees white sheets in every post...

Have you studied at the mothra school of non-response and deflection?


FYI - it was I who started use of the term 'Usual Suspects' here - years ago.  After a while all I had to do was throw in the term 'Usual Suspects' - often with a question mark - and off the Usual Suspect Luvvahs would go, ranting and calling me racist... very much a Pauline Hanson style of 'conviction' ... it was like playing Pavlov with their dogs...... thing about that is that in doing so, they proved that they themselves KNOW who the Usual Suspects were and are in any given situation!!

There is the occasional Unusual Suspect; the exception that proves the rule!!

Rejoice, young man, in the days of your education!

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 5:53pm:

Deep runs the paranoia in this one.... the desperate need to try to cling to something from the disastrous defeat... now he sees white sheets in every post... Have you studied at the mothra school of non-response and deflection?

I literally quoted you doing what I said...

You're even failing at trolling at the moment.


Quote:

FYI - it was I who started use of the term 'Usual Suspects' here - years ago.  After a while all I had to do was throw in the term 'Usual Suspects' - often with a question mark - and off the Usual Suspect Luvvahs would go, ranting and calling me racist... very much a Pauline Hanson style of 'conviction' ... it was like playing Pavlov with their dogs...... thing about that is that in doing so, they proved that they themselves KNOW who the Usual Suspects were and are in any given situation!! There is the occasional Unusual Suspect; the exception that proves the rule!! Rejoice, young man, in the days of your education!

What a feather in your cap.

I guess the movie from the 90's ripped you off too?

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 10:16am:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 10:00am: Wangany Mala documentary screened in NT and Bali explores pre-colonial trade between north-east Arnhem Land and Indonesia 8-) That seems really interesting, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbupG90wwfE Thanks for posting. A documentary about pre-colonial trade between Indonesians and some Indigenous Australians, it's an interesting topic. But since the subject focuses on Indigenous Australians and Muslim people without belittling or degrading them, let me be clear, without naming any names, this will unsettle the usual suspects. It's a shame, because it's an interesting topic.  I hope the documentary is released for general consumption soon.

What IS the interest?


Muslims didnt colonised us Aborigines, they came fishing.
So we welcome Muslims in boats, even as the evil white colonial wacist gubberment don't. Oh - and swimming is Muslim garb is almost Dreamtime, you know.

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Frank wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 8:26pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 10:16am: Brian Ross wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 10:00am: Wangany Mala documentary screened in NT and Bali explores pre-colonial trade between north-east Arnhem Land and Indonesia 8-) That seems really interesting, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbupG90wwfE Thanks for posting. A documentary about pre-colonial trade between Indonesians and some Indigenous Australians, it's an interesting topic. But since the subject focuses on Indigenous Australians and Muslim people without belittling or degrading them, let me be clear, without naming any names, this will unsettle the usual suspects. It's a shame, because it's an interesting topic.  I hope the documentary is released for general consumption soon. What IS the interest?

You don't find it interesting to learn more about our past, or elements of Indigenous cultures' interactions with other peoples?

One of the main drivers of technological development in a culture is trade and interaction with outside cultures.

Aboriginals were frozen perpetually in a rudimentary hunter gatherer culture which suggests any trade was minimal.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 5^th, 2024 at 6:48am:

Frank wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 8:26pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 10:16am: Brian Ross wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 10:00am: Wangany Mala documentary screened in NT and Bali explores pre-colonial trade between north-east Arnhem Land and Indonesia 8-) That seems really interesting, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbupG90wwfE Thanks for posting. A documentary about pre-colonial trade between Indonesians and some Indigenous Australians, it's an interesting topic. But since the subject focuses on Indigenous Australians and Muslim people without belittling or degrading them, let me be clear, without naming any names, this will unsettle the usual suspects. It's a shame, because it's an interesting topic.  I hope the documentary is released for general consumption soon. What IS the interest? You don't find it interesting to learn more about our past, or elements of Indigenous cultures' interactions with other peoples?

How about you do some research as to when the Indonesian Archipelago came under the influence of Islam?

The time frame is very recent - only about 630 years.

You want to put that into context as to how long Aboriginals reckon they’ve been here?

Seeings they walked through the archipelago to get here and they’ve only been cut off for 8,000 years. ::)

LOL!

So much butt-hurt over the mere exposure to the awareness that a documentary exists.

Hilarious!

Thanks for the head's up, Brian. I'll be sure to look this up.

Gnads wrote on Nov 5^th, 2024 at 7:29am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 6:48am: Frank wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 8:26pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 10:16am: Brian Ross wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 10:00am: Wangany Mala documentary screened in NT and Bali explores pre-colonial trade between north-east Arnhem Land and Indonesia 8-) That seems really interesting, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbupG90wwfE Thanks for posting. A documentary about pre-colonial trade between Indonesians and some Indigenous Australians, it's an interesting topic. But since the subject focuses on Indigenous Australians and Muslim people without belittling or degrading them, let me be clear, without naming any names, this will unsettle the usual suspects. It's a shame, because it's an interesting topic.  I hope the documentary is released for general consumption soon. What IS the interest? You don't find it interesting to learn more about our past, or elements of Indigenous cultures' interactions with other peoples? How about you do some research as to when the Indonesian Archipelago came under the influence of Islam? The time frame is very recent - only about 630 years. You want to put that into context as to how long Aboriginals reckon they’ve been here? Seeings they walked through the archipelago to get here and they’ve only been cut off for 8,000 years. ::)

You're all so keen to demand I answer your questions but you never respond in kind when I do...

I wonder why?  I've never claimed to be an expert, I do have some limited experience working in tourism in the NT but that's it.

Is it because I call out the use of racial slurs, lies and misinformation so many people trade in within this forum?

Has my love for the truth and reality made me such a target for you lot?

It's not you, Kanga, it's what you represent.

They are bitter and resentful of a people they see as getting special privileges and whose entire existence is made up, in their minds, of what they were taught in school.

They bitterly resent any information that even suggests, let alone proves, that the First Nations people were anything more than brutal hunter gatherers who were saved by colonialism.

Amazingly and just worthy of theses, they see them as ingrates.

there's no educating them. they just need to die off.

Tick tock.

** enter mothra, stage left, walking the soft ground prepared by boomers, while rampant with fantasy and fanaticism**


"Ein moment!  In zer Sird Reich ve take our grammar very seriously...... are you meaning that 'boomers' are rampant with fantasy and fanaticism.... or that mothra is rampant with fantasy and fanatacism?  Choose your answer carefully..."

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mothra wrote on Nov 5^th, 2024 at 9:08am:

LOL! So much butt-hurt over the mere exposure to the awareness that a documentary exists. Hilarious! Thanks for the head's up, Brian. I'll be sure to look this up.

Calm down Miss Conniptions

Why don’t you ask Bwyan to offer an opinion on why he posted the clip and what he gained from watching it?

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 5^th, 2024 at 9:20am:

Gnads wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 7:29am: SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 6:48am: Frank wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 8:26pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 10:16am: Brian Ross wrote on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 10:00am: Wangany Mala documentary screened in NT and Bali explores pre-colonial trade between north-east Arnhem Land and Indonesia 8-) That seems really interesting, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbupG90wwfE Thanks for posting. A documentary about pre-colonial trade between Indonesians and some Indigenous Australians, it's an interesting topic. But since the subject focuses on Indigenous Australians and Muslim people without belittling or degrading them, let me be clear, without naming any names, this will unsettle the usual suspects. It's a shame, because it's an interesting topic.  I hope the documentary is released for general consumption soon. What IS the interest? You don't find it interesting to learn more about our past, or elements of Indigenous cultures' interactions with other peoples? How about you do some research as to when the Indonesian Archipelago came under the influence of Islam? The time frame is very recent - only about 630 years. You want to put that into context as to how long Aboriginals reckon they’ve been here? Seeings they walked through the archipelago to get here and they’ve only been cut off for 8,000 years. ::) You're all so keen to demand I answer your questions but you never respond in kind when I do... I wonder why?  I've never claimed to be an expert, I do have some limited experience working in tourism in the NT but that's it. Is it because I call out the use of racial slurs, lies and misinformation so many people trade in within this forum? Has my love for the truth and reality made me such a target for you lot?

Rubbish.

You wouldn’t know truth if it bit you on the arse.

mothra wrote on Nov 5^th, 2024 at 9:36am:

It's not you, Kanga, it's what you represent. They are bitter and resentful of a people they see as getting special privileges and whose entire existence is made up, in their minds, of what they were taught in school. They bitterly resent any information that even suggests, let alone proves, that the First Nations people were anything more than brutal hunter gatherers who were saved by colonialism. Amazingly and just worthy of theses, they see them as ingrates. there's no educating them. they just need to die off. Tick tock.

And you can phuk off and die too.

Gnads wrote on Nov 5^th, 2024 at 10:25am:

mothra wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 9:36am: It's not you, Kanga, it's what you represent. They are bitter and resentful of a people they see as getting special privileges and whose entire existence is made up, in their minds, of what they were taught in school. They bitterly resent any information that even suggests, let alone proves, that the First Nations people were anything more than brutal hunter gatherers who were saved by colonialism. Amazingly and just worthy of theses, they see them as ingrates. there's no educating them. they just need to die off. Tick tock. And you can phuk off and die too.

I think you need to calm down.

Saying someone is so set in their ways that their mind won't change and their toxicity will only end when they die is vastly different to telling someone to bugger off and die.

Gnads wrote on Nov 5^th, 2024 at 10:22am:

mothra wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 9:08am: LOL! So much butt-hurt over the mere exposure to the awareness that a documentary exists. Hilarious! Thanks for the head's up, Brian. I'll be sure to look this up. Calm down Miss Conniptions Why don’t you ask Bwyan to offer an opinion on why he posted the clip and what he gained from watching it?

Clip? It was an article about a documentary, Gonads.

Yet you didn't even bother to learn that much.

So i guess i rest my case.

It's worthy of a yawn from Auntie Tsk Tsk that it would be a shocking revelation that two peoples living geographically so close would, over thousands of years, interact with each other at some points. Polynesian and Melanesian peoples managed it despite being separated by a quarter of the world's surface area.

As for why Aboriginals did not adopt the technologies of their northern neighbours likely indicates that (a) what was being traded was of limited interest to both peoples and (b) that there was little to no interbreeding between the two peoples.

Given the very strict rules regarding interbreeding even among Aboriginal tribes - rules that still exist today, it would be almost certain that any productive interbreeding between Indonesian and Aboriginal peoples in Australia would have resulted in at least infanticide if not also the death of the mother at the hands of her clan/tribe relatives.

Consider this, grasshopper - your 'truth' is only your view - it is not and can never be absolute truth... therefore your 'pursuit of truth' via confrontation and sledging of those with different views is not pursuit of truth - but an attempt to impose your truth on others.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 5^th, 2024 at 10:43am:

Gnads wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 10:25am: mothra wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 9:36am: It's not you, Kanga, it's what you represent. They are bitter and resentful of a people they see as getting special privileges and whose entire existence is made up, in their minds, of what they were taught in school. They bitterly resent any information that even suggests, let alone proves, that the First Nations people were anything more than brutal hunter gatherers who were saved by colonialism. Amazingly and just worthy of theses, they see them as ingrates. there's no educating them. they just need to die off. Tick tock. And you can phuk off and die too. I think you need to calm down. Saying someone is so set in their ways that their mind won't change and their toxicity will only end when they die is vastly different to telling someone to bugger off and die.

Well, then - imagine the correct and rightful response to someone arriving here and calling for the extinction of an entire generation.... purest Nazism ...

BTW - methra - how's your rundown towards old age and all those things going?   Tick tock .... tick tock .... tick tock ...  sounds like your hate-filled ulcers might get you ... or hate-filled heart issues...

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 5^th, 2024 at 11:06am:

It's worthy of a yawn from Auntie Tsk Tsk that it would be a shocking revelation that two peoples living geographically so close would, over thousands of years, interact with each other at some points. Polynesian and Melanesian peoples managed it despite being separated by a quarter of the world's surface area. As for why Aboriginals did not adopt the technologies of their northern neighbours likely indicates that (a) what was being traded was of limited interest to both peoples and (b) that there was little to no interbreeding between the two peoples.

Phew - once you get the Briyawn you know you've won ....

What did they trade?  Roo skins for fish?

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 10:00am:

Wangany Mala documentary screened in NT and Bali explores pre-colonial trade between north-east Arnhem Land and Indonesia 8-)

The muslims are upset they didn't get to colonise Australia.

As with all Islamic colonisation the host culture is eradicated and replaced with Arab Islamic culture.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 5^th, 2024 at 5:25pm:

What did they trade?  Roo skins for fish?

Yeah, why not?!

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 5^th, 2024 at 5:23pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 10:43am: Gnads wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 10:25am: mothra wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 9:36am: It's not you, Kanga, it's what you represent. They are bitter and resentful of a people they see as getting special privileges and whose entire existence is made up, in their minds, of what they were taught in school. They bitterly resent any information that even suggests, let alone proves, that the First Nations people were anything more than brutal hunter gatherers who were saved by colonialism. Amazingly and just worthy of theses, they see them as ingrates. there's no educating them. they just need to die off. Tick tock. And you can phuk off and die too. I think you need to calm down. Saying someone is so set in their ways that their mind won't change and their toxicity will only end when they die is vastly different to telling someone to bugger off and die. Well, then - imagine the correct and rightful response to someone arriving here and calling for the extinction of an entire generation.... purest Nazism..

You're going to have to explain what you're talking about here mate...

Why?  You read it yourself - I suppose it was just that in your zeal to dig up anything to criticise the winners with you 'overlooked' the virulent hatred of one 'contributor' here for the Boomers.... they who built the joint...

Go back and look it over....... that's what you ally yourself with... I've tried to save you from yourself - but you will not listen...

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 5^th, 2024 at 10:23pm:

Why?  You read it yourself - I suppose it was just that in your zeal to dig up anything to criticise the winners with you 'overlooked' the virulent hatred of one 'contributor' here for the Boomers.... they who built the joint... Go back and look it over....... that's what you ally yourself with... I've tried to save you from yourself - but you will not listen...

So, let me clarify: you're asserting that because someone suggested people like you might be so entrenched in your views that there's no other option but to wait for your generation to pass, you're calling that "the purest form of Nazism"?

Mr "Maybe 10% are worth saving" thinks giving up trying to change the minds of people like you is calling for the genocide of an entire generation? 

Are you truly equating the resignation to outlasting outdated beliefs with a call for the extermination of an entire generation?

The same Mr. “Genocide would be the lighter option” now finds a way to twist patience into a threat of genocide?

This is rich coming from someone who once remarked, "Be a lot less trouble today if they’d gotten rid of all the Boongs," and yet now dares to label someone else as harbouring "Nazism"?

And let’s not forget, this same Mr. “The best punishment for some is a zip tie around the neck… just saying,” is suddenly scandalised at the thought of others simply waiting for your toxic ideology to expire naturally?

You’re treading into dangerous, hypocritical territory if you’re suggesting that Nazism equates to not engaging with those who refuse to evolve beyond outdated beliefs, and especially so given your outspoken endorsement of the British systematically eliminating entire Indigenous communities, among other truly abhorrent views.

Is this really a road you want to go down?

So much for another reset and attempt to act in good faith.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 6^th, 2024 at 7:53am:

So much for another reset and attempt to act in good faith.

Sure, sure - we always know that's what you are attempting... on your terms which don't hunt.

Got you so conditioned now you can't even find the issues.

So far about 10% of the Aboriginal population have saved themselves - why would anyone consider that any more than 10% of the remainder - the new lots coming on - are worth saving from themselves?

I don't hold any entrenched ideas or views - I judge on the facts in front of me.  It is your side of losers who are now entrenched and struggling to hold the future out.... it's very clear what the future holds for these divisive policies and putsches for Aboriginal supremacy in this land.

So - what did they trade with Indonesia?  Holden cars?  More likely Indonesians did a Captain Cook, took a look, and then they took it on the hook ... nice enough place to visit and maybe lay claim to in the overall state of things, but you couldn't force a convict to willingly live there.....

"Hey, Shukasabong - how did your trip across the Strait go?  Good place to visit - maybe migrate to?"

"Nah - nothing there but heat, swamps, insects, deserts, animals you can't really eat, droughts or floods, and ugly native women.... you could develop it, I suppose, but it would take a coupla hundred years and billions of baht.... you couldn't give tickets away for a tour... I'll stick with Bali, thanks......"

"What did you trade?"

"Got some artefacts here... as long as they don't want them back - Aborigine Givers, you know ... give stuff as presents and then whine about them being stolen .. jeez - that Bathiry woman in Romania did that to a wandering Gypsy lad once .. had him stuck in the Iron Maiden ... swapped some nets and fly traps for them..."

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 6^th, 2024 at 8:12am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 6th, 2024 at 7:53am: So much for another reset and attempt to act in good faith. Sure, sure - we always know that's what you are attempting... on your terms which don't hunt.

If you would like to define what you consider to be a good faith discussion, we can try again and hold you to that if you like?

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 5^th, 2024 at 10:43am:

Gnads wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 10:25am: mothra wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 9:36am: It's not you, Kanga, it's what you represent. They are bitter and resentful of a people they see as getting special privileges and whose entire existence is made up, in their minds, of what they were taught in school. They bitterly resent any information that even suggests, let alone proves, that the First Nations people were anything more than brutal hunter gatherers who were saved by colonialism. Amazingly and just worthy of theses, they see them as ingrates. there's no educating them. they just need to die off. Tick tock. And you can phuk off and die too. I think you need to calm down. Saying someone is so set in their ways that their mind won't change and their toxicity will only end when they die is vastly different to telling someone to bugger off and die.

I wasn’t referring to you and she was inferring what amounts to the same thing.

mothra wrote on Nov 5^th, 2024 at 10:51am:

Gnads wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 10:22am: mothra wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 9:08am: LOL! So much butt-hurt over the mere exposure to the awareness that a documentary exists. Hilarious! Thanks for the head's up, Brian. I'll be sure to look this up. Calm down Miss Conniptions Why don’t you ask Bwyan to offer an opinion on why he posted the clip and what he gained from watching it? Clip? It was an article about a documentary, Gonads. Yet you didn't even bother to learn that much. So i guess i rest my case.

Video clip you pedantic bint.
So it was about a documentary… so what?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 5^th, 2024 at 11:29am:

Given the very strict rules regarding interbreeding even among Aboriginal tribes - rules that still exist today, it would be almost certain that any productive interbreeding between Indonesian and Aboriginal peoples in Australia would have resulted in at least infanticide if not also the death of the mother at the hands of her clan/tribe relatives.

Plenty of interbred Aboriginals/Timorese/ Indonesians in the top end now. Jessica Mauboy ring any bells?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 5^th, 2024 at 5:38pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 5:25pm: What did they trade?  Roo skins for fish? Yeah, why not?!

Trepang/ sea cucumber for the Indos

I would imagine better tools for the Aboriginals.

Gnads wrote on Nov 6^th, 2024 at 2:54pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 10:43am: Gnads wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 10:25am: mothra wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 9:36am: It's not you, Kanga, it's what you represent. They are bitter and resentful of a people they see as getting special privileges and whose entire existence is made up, in their minds, of what they were taught in school. They bitterly resent any information that even suggests, let alone proves, that the First Nations people were anything more than brutal hunter gatherers who were saved by colonialism. Amazingly and just worthy of theses, they see them as ingrates. there's no educating them. they just need to die off. Tick tock. And you can phuk off and die too. I think you need to calm down. Saying someone is so set in their ways that their mind won't change and their toxicity will only end when they die is vastly different to telling someone to bugger off and die. I wasn’t referring to you and she was inferring what amounts to the same thing.

So you and yours will use the defence that you didn't flat out say something, even if you inferred it, like the 10% style comments, but you're ok to judge others of how you interpret their inferences?

Poor form...

What she said and meant is nothing like how your interpreting it.

It's simple, you lot won't ever change your minds, so we just have to wait until you expire before your terrible beliefs no longer infect the landscape.

If you want to change the rules around inferences you'd better pepper your angus because you and the other tards are in for a world of pain.

"It's not you, Kanga, it's what you represent.  that's once in the 24 hours, clock....

any information that even suggests, let alone proves, that the First Nations people were anything more than brutal hunter gatherers who were saved by colonialism.  so they traded ... what ... with some Indos who dropped in but didn't consider the joint worth staying in ... so what?  Hunter gatherers worldwide trade stuff.... it's no big deal... why do YOU so desperately need to make out it makes something more of them than survival level hunter-gatherers? 

YOU GOT SOMETHING AGAINST HUNTER-GATHERERS?

;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

Gnads wrote on Nov 6^th, 2024 at 2:59pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 11:29am: Given the very strict rules regarding interbreeding even among Aboriginal tribes - rules that still exist today, it would be almost certain that any productive interbreeding between Indonesian and Aboriginal peoples in Australia would have resulted in at least infanticide if not also the death of the mother at the hands of her clan/tribe relatives. Plenty of interbred Aboriginals/Timorese/ Indonesians in the top end now. Jessica Mauboy ring any bells?

Yep, well plenty look like Nordic opera singers as well these days but 6000BC?