I don’t think it’ll be long before KRudd becomes persona non grata in the US and forced out of his role as our ambassador to the US. He shouldn’t have gotten the job in the first place. Having said that, I’d have been more impressed by him if he hadn’t deleted those social media posts critical of Trump and instead stood by his comments. Shows how shallow and lacking in a spine he is!

Come on give him  a break. His pension wasn't enough to keep him out of the trough. ::)

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 9^th, 2024 at 1:14pm:

I don’t think it’ll be long before KRudd becomes persona non grata in the US and forced out of his role as our ambassador to the US. He shouldn’t have gotten the job in the first place. Having said that, I’d have been more impressed by him if he hadn’t deleted those social media posts critical of Trump and instead stood by his comments. Shows how shallow and lacking in a spine he is!

I'd bet Rudd will have his bags packed.

I'd also bet that Albanese and his senior ministers will be pissed off about his coming back as well!

He'll be meddling in government affairs over here, undermining the Albanese government, in the belief that he can make a comeback as the leader of the Labor Party and get another shot at being prime minister.

Maybe Albanese will pack the c~nt off to the UK or somewhere in Europe as Australia's High Commissioner/Ambassador.

Anywhere to keep the c~nt out of Australia.

lee wrote on Nov 9^th, 2024 at 2:19pm:

Come on give him  a break. His pension wasn't enough to keep him out of the trough. ::)

DEEP STATE !!!

rudd loves attention and is just as big a narcissist as donny

he's just not that good at it

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 9^th, 2024 at 1:14pm:

I don’t think it’ll be long before KRudd becomes persona non grata in the US and forced out of his role as our ambassador to the US. He shouldn’t have gotten the job in the first place. Having said that, I’d have been more impressed by him if he hadn’t deleted those social media posts critical of Trump and instead stood by his comments. Shows how shallow and lacking in a spine he is!

Rudd is Australia's Ambassador to America not a private citizen....Rudd should not have criticized any Leaders of America's Government which he must work with in his position....Rudd should resign or be sacked!!!

:-? :-? :-?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 9^th, 2024 at 2:38pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 9th, 2024 at 1:14pm: I don’t think it’ll be long before KRudd becomes persona non grata in the US and forced out of his role as our ambassador to the US. He shouldn’t have gotten the job in the first place. Having said that, I’d have been more impressed by him if he hadn’t deleted those social media posts critical of Trump and instead stood by his comments. Shows how shallow and lacking in a spine he is! I'd bet Rudd will have his bags packed. I'd also bet that Albanese and his senior ministers will be pissed off about his coming back as well! He'll be meddling in government affairs over here, undermining the Albanese government, in the belief that he can make a comeback as the leader of the Labor Party and get another shot at being prime minister. Maybe Albanese will pack the c~nt off to the UK or somewhere in Europe as Australia's High Commissioner/Ambassador. Anywhere to keep the c~nt out of Australia.

Perhaps more worrying, KRudd deleted his previous comments about Trump, erasing the historic record.

Harmless remarks about Trump being a danger to democracy - something every Western leader has expressed at one point or another. Most of Trump's cabinet have publicly said worse. His own Joint Chiefs of Staff Chair calls him a dangerous fascist.

Other remarks include:
- totally unfit for office
- embarrassingly stupid
- dumb as a rock
- criminally dead to rights
- an out and out felon
- a deranged lunatic
- a traitor to the American people

These are fairly banal descriptions too, until you know who said them: the most sober - and loyal - military men in America.

This time, he'll probably ditch the generals. He'll be picking absolute bottom feeders. We're talking third rate lawyers like Alina Habba as Attorney General.

If I was Rudd, I'd be asking for a transfer. The culture of Washington during the first Trump administration was so toxic, it's impossible to envisage how bad the second one will be.

Rudd should ask for Venezuela.

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 9^th, 2024 at 2:59pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 9th, 2024 at 1:14pm: I don’t think it’ll be long before KRudd becomes persona non grata in the US and forced out of his role as our ambassador to the US. He shouldn’t have gotten the job in the first place. Having said that, I’d have been more impressed by him if he hadn’t deleted those social media posts critical of Trump and instead stood by his comments. Shows how shallow and lacking in a spine he is! Rudd is Australia's Ambassador to America not a private citizen....Rudd should not have criticized any Leaders of America's Government which he must work with in his position....Rudd should resign or be sacked!!! :-? :-? :-?

Trump wasn't in office when Rudd said them. How could a Western leader ignore a US president sending fake electoral certificates to Congress and starting a deadly riot to threaten his own VP to accept them?

Trump was impeached. The Western alliance should have said more. All it takes for bad guys to get away with it is good guys to say nothing.

If the Republicans had acted on their own convictions in 2021, Trump would have been barred for office for good, according to the rules the founding fathers set up to keep despots out.

Karnal wrote on Nov 9^th, 2024 at 2:55pm:

lee wrote on Nov 9th, 2024 at 2:19pm: Come on give him  a break. His pension wasn't enough to keep him out of the trough. ::) DEEP STATE !!!

Deep state Australia. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Karnal wrote on Nov 9^th, 2024 at 3:26pm:

Perhaps more worrying, KRudd deleted his previous comments about Trump, erasing the historic record. Harmless remarks about Trump being a danger to democracy - something every Western leader has expressed at one point or another. Most of Trump's cabinet have publicly said worse. His own Joint Chiefs of Staff Chair calls him a dangerous fascist. Other remarks include: - totally unfit for office - embarrassingly stupid - dumb as a rock - criminally dead to rights - an out and out felon - a deranged lunatic - a traitor to the American people These are fairly banal descriptions too, until you know who said them: the most sober - and loyal - military men in America. This time, he'll probably ditch the generals. He'll be picking absolute bottom feeders. We're talking third rate lawyers like Alina Habba as Attorney General. If I was Rudd, I'd be asking for a transfer. The culture of Washington during the first Trump administration was so toxic, it's impossible to envisage how bad the second one will be. Rudd should ask for Venezuela.

The "historic record" hasn't quite been erased.

https://x.com/MrRexPatrick/status/1854334656281452707

As the saying goes... the Internet keeps receipts.

:)

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Karnal wrote on Nov 9^th, 2024 at 3:26pm:

This time, he'll probably ditch the generals. He'll be picking absolute bottom feeders. We're talking third rate lawyers like Alina Habba as Attorney General.

Trump publicly slagged off the generals on his staff to Rogan.

Called them useless, stupid - a disgrace to the uniform. Blew smoke up the arses of the junior officers he met in Iraq, who he claimed also slagged off their military seniors (always ready to drag others into the pit with him)... just after he ranted about how hot his Air Force One pilots were.

Rogan sat there... said nothing in defence of the military officers whose names were being traduced.

Rogan showed himself up for the suckhole he is...

Karnal wrote on Nov 9^th, 2024 at 3:43pm:

The Western alliance should have said more.. according to the rules the founding fathers set up to keep despots out.

British commander in chief William Howe marched with many horses in Operation Regime Change against the armed mobs of Washington.  The republicans are ever grateful.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 9^th, 2024 at 4:28pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 9th, 2024 at 3:26pm: This time, he'll probably ditch the generals. He'll be picking absolute bottom feeders. We're talking third rate lawyers like Alina Habba as Attorney General. Trump publicly slagged off the generals on his staff to Rogan. Called them useless, stupid - a disgrace to the uniform. Blew smoke up the arses of the junior officers he met in Iraq, who he claimed also slagged off their military seniors (always ready to drag others into the pit with him)... just after he ranted about how hot his Air Force One pilots were. Rogan sat there... said nothing in defence of the military officers whose names were being traduced. Rogan showed himself up for the suckhole he is...

i dare you to say that to his face  :D :D

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/168/373/819/original/5a8b463407524633.png

aquascoot wrote on Nov 9^th, 2024 at 4:44pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 9th, 2024 at 4:28pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 9th, 2024 at 3:26pm: This time, he'll probably ditch the generals. He'll be picking absolute bottom feeders. We're talking third rate lawyers like Alina Habba as Attorney General. Trump publicly slagged off the generals on his staff to Rogan. Called them useless, stupid - a disgrace to the uniform. Blew smoke up the arses of the junior officers he met in Iraq, who he claimed also slagged off their military seniors (always ready to drag others into the pit with him)... just after he ranted about how hot his Air Force One pilots were. Rogan sat there... said nothing in defence of the military officers whose names were being traduced. Rogan showed himself up for the suckhole he is... i dare you to say that to his face  :D :D

Awww... How old are you? 12?

aquascoot wrote on Nov 9^th, 2024 at 4:44pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 9th, 2024 at 4:28pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 9th, 2024 at 3:26pm: This time, he'll probably ditch the generals. He'll be picking absolute bottom feeders. We're talking third rate lawyers like Alina Habba as Attorney General. Trump publicly slagged off the generals on his staff to Rogan. Called them useless, stupid - a disgrace to the uniform. Blew smoke up the arses of the junior officers he met in Iraq, who he claimed also slagged off their military seniors (always ready to drag others into the pit with him)... just after he ranted about how hot his Air Force One pilots were. Rogan sat there... said nothing in defence of the military officers whose names were being traduced. Rogan showed himself up for the suckhole he is... i dare you to say that to his face

Why?

Are you suggesting that Rogan is so unhinged that he'd physically harm someone who called him a name?

Are you serious?

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 9^th, 2024 at 5:16pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 9th, 2024 at 4:44pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 9th, 2024 at 4:28pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 9th, 2024 at 3:26pm: This time, he'll probably ditch the generals. He'll be picking absolute bottom feeders. We're talking third rate lawyers like Alina Habba as Attorney General. Trump publicly slagged off the generals on his staff to Rogan. Called them useless, stupid - a disgrace to the uniform. Blew smoke up the arses of the junior officers he met in Iraq, who he claimed also slagged off their military seniors (always ready to drag others into the pit with him)... just after he ranted about how hot his Air Force One pilots were. Rogan sat there... said nothing in defence of the military officers whose names were being traduced. Rogan showed himself up for the suckhole he is... i dare you to say that to his face  Why? Are you suggesting that Rogan is so unhinged that he'd physically harm someone who called him a name? Are you serious?

I'd like to see you test him, vile, despicable disgrace.

Frank wrote on Nov 9^th, 2024 at 5:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 9th, 2024 at 5:16pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 9th, 2024 at 4:44pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 9th, 2024 at 4:28pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 9th, 2024 at 3:26pm: This time, he'll probably ditch the generals. He'll be picking absolute bottom feeders. We're talking third rate lawyers like Alina Habba as Attorney General. Trump publicly slagged off the generals on his staff to Rogan. Called them useless, stupid - a disgrace to the uniform. Blew smoke up the arses of the junior officers he met in Iraq, who he claimed also slagged off their military seniors (always ready to drag others into the pit with him)... just after he ranted about how hot his Air Force One pilots were. Rogan sat there... said nothing in defence of the military officers whose names were being traduced. Rogan showed himself up for the suckhole he is... i dare you to say that to his face  Why? Are you suggesting that Rogan is so unhinged that he'd physically harm someone who called him a name? Are you serious? I'd like to see you test him, vile, despicable disgrace.

Are you now confirming that Rogan is so unhinged that he'd physically harm someone if they merely called him a name?

Is he a man or a 10 year old boy?

What the hell is wrong with these little snowflakes?

"Mommy, mommy, the bad man called me a name".

Lol   ;D

'Don, it's Kevin, from Arstralia'.
'Kevin. I know Kevi......'
'Yeah, giggle.  Hey, Don we still get to play subs do we? Like I can give $368bn or $6983 billion or something, hey?'
'We'll see'.

I see the maniac with no honour or credibility refuses to leave the site.
I think forums would be rated and supported better if they actually made those whom say they'll leave the site, actually leave.
Especially if it's an under-performing site wondering why it's consistent approach over years has failed to grow the site.
Paid contributors need to be able to encourage new members to participate not just hang onto a few die-hard old timers.

Rudd should be moved sideways somewhere away from the USA as a show of good faith.

Carl D wrote on Nov 9^th, 2024 at 3:49pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 9th, 2024 at 3:26pm: Perhaps more worrying, KRudd deleted his previous comments about Trump, erasing the historic record. Harmless remarks about Trump being a danger to democracy - something every Western leader has expressed at one point or another. Most of Trump's cabinet have publicly said worse. His own Joint Chiefs of Staff Chair calls him a dangerous fascist. Other remarks include: - totally unfit for office - embarrassingly stupid - dumb as a rock - criminally dead to rights - an out and out felon - a deranged lunatic - a traitor to the American people These are fairly banal descriptions too, until you know who said them: the most sober - and loyal - military men in America. This time, he'll probably ditch the generals. He'll be picking absolute bottom feeders. We're talking third rate lawyers like Alina Habba as Attorney General. If I was Rudd, I'd be asking for a transfer. The culture of Washington during the first Trump administration was so toxic, it's impossible to envisage how bad the second one will be. Rudd should ask for Venezuela. The "historic record" hasn't quite been erased. https://x.com/MrRexPatrick/status/1854334656281452707 As the saying goes... the Internet keeps receipts. :)

Thanks, Carl. My mishtake - Rudd said it during the 2020 election.

Good to know history can't be erased with a mere election win. I hope social media keeps the records, although it's clear that Musk will do whatever it takes to turn X into the propaganda wing of the administration.

There is one glimmer of light in this, albeit slim. Trump pisses everybody off. I can't see how he can possibly restrain his instincts to keep a guy like Musk in the tent. Why would he hang around to cop the inevitable abuse he's got coming? 

The last Trump administration leaked like a seive, divided into warring factions by DL himself. We know that Trump is incapable of managing a team. We know that he couldn't stay focused during his campaign to stay on message. We know that he couldn't resist the temptation to berate, bully and belittle his staff, putting them against each other, and we know how small the talent pool is of competent people willing to work for him.

The current display of hero-worship will fray before he hits office. It doesn't matter if the MAGA House and Senate rubber stamp his picks. It doesn't matter that Project 2025 have his loyalists ready to go. If the guy at the top is Trump, the house comes tumbling down, just as the first one did.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 9^th, 2024 at 4:28pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 9th, 2024 at 3:26pm: This time, he'll probably ditch the generals. He'll be picking absolute bottom feeders. We're talking third rate lawyers like Alina Habba as Attorney General. Trump publicly slagged off the generals on his staff to Rogan. Called them useless, stupid - a disgrace to the uniform. Blew smoke up the arses of the junior officers he met in Iraq, who he claimed also slagged off their military seniors (always ready to drag others into the pit with him)... just after he ranted about how hot his Air Force One pilots were. Rogan sat there... said nothing in defence of the military officers whose names were being traduced. Rogan showed himself up for the suckhole he is...

Just so. Rogan totally embarrassed himself, despite his limpwristed disclaimers that playing nice is his thing.

His attempts at tough questions were lame and brushed away. It was a softcock interview intended to keep his MAGA audience on side. Rogan might as well have been Tucker.

Rudd should be recalled, it isn't relevant that he is correct. Nobody in his position should comment on the other nations politics.

He should be recalled but fine to send him somewhere else - or not.

Australia should not wait for the US to say anything. It should have been done in 2020.

After being replaced as Labor leader in 2013 by Shorten, Rudd kept presuming he was spokesman. He made announcements and said he was offering policies for the people of Australia, to Shorten's annoyance. So his big mouth was known.

Rudd is an intelligent China loving leftie. He is also a bit of a self aggrandising, Duning Kruger sufferer, whom believes he knows everything about the Chinese way of life, business and language etc.
The problem is he doesn't and completely underestimated and misread (along with many other so called intelligent leftists) Chinas globalist military aims and retention of communist realities even with vast Western capitalist money provided to them.

He wasn't in any ambassador role when he hyperbolically and negatively verbalized and disparaged the now newly elected leader of the USA and the"Free World".
Hind-sight is 20/20 and obviously neither he nor Albanese like Trump period, as a leader of the "Right" and hoped he'd never be re-elected.
Well he has been and now coupled with his China love and Trump hatred, Rudd should be removed from the USA ambassador role. It would be in Australia's best interest IMHO.
He can be looked after and placed somewhere else, maybe.

goosecat wrote on Nov 9^th, 2024 at 8:04pm:

Rudd is an intelligent China loving leftie. He is also a bit of a self aggrandising, Duning Kruger sufferer, whom believes he knows everything about the Chinese way of life, business and language etc. The problem is he doesn't and completely underestimated and misread (along with many other so called intelligent leftists) Chinas globalist military aims and retention of communist realities even with vast Western capitalist money provided to them. He wasn't in any ambassador role when he hyperbolically and negatively verbalized and disparaged the now newly elected leader of the USA and the"Free World". Hind-sight is 20/20 and obviously neither he nor Albanese like Trump period, as a leader of the "Right" and hoped he'd never be re-elected. Well he has been and now coupled with his China love and Trump hatred, Rudd should be removed from the USA ambassador role. It would be in Australia's best interest IMHO. He can be looked after and placed somewhere else, maybe.

China-loving?

Shurely shome mishtake. You must have missed all the rat fuckers furor.

KRudd's been warning Uncle about the Chows since Hillary was Secretary of State. He's been freaking them out for years.

He would have gone on Fox as a China hawk if he didn't hate Rupert so much.

Short memory, is it?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 9^th, 2024 at 1:14pm:

I don’t think it’ll be long before KRudd becomes persona non grata in the US and forced out of his role as our ambassador to the US. He shouldn’t have gotten the job in the first place. Having said that, I’d have been more impressed by him if he hadn’t deleted those social media posts critical of Trump and instead stood by his comments. Shows how shallow and lacking in a spine he is!

Well said.

Karnal wrote on Nov 9^th, 2024 at 10:24pm:

China-loving? Shurely shome mishtake. You must have missed all the rat fuckers furor. KRudd's been warning Uncle about the Chows since Hillary was Secretary of State. He's been freaking them out for years. He would have gone on Fox as a China hawk if he didn't hate Rupert so much. Short memory, is it?

Retired Navy Capt. Jim Fanell, for one, strongly disagrees.

“For over two decades, Kevin Rudd has demonstrated his pro-[China] leanings,” said Mr. Fanell, a former director of intelligence for the Pacific Fleet.

"Beyond that he’s frequently written commentary for the PRC press, such as China Daily; he has also gone around the world speaking about the benefits of engagement with Beijing, despite never fully acknowledging the strategic trajectory of the Chinese Communist Party’s expansionist campaigns to complete the Great Rejuvenation of China,”
he said, using the abbreviation for People’s Republic of China.

The national rejuvenation campaign, Mr. Fanell said, has included the seizure of territory the Chinese government unilaterally assesses to be their own, from Taiwan and Japan’s Senkaku Islands in the South China Sea to disputed territory with India, Mongolia and even Russia, he said.

Mr. Fanell, co-author of the recently published book “Embracing Communist China: America’s Greatest Strategic Failure,” said Mr. Rudd has played the role of a China hand successfully in moving from prime minister to ambassador. But “he has all along behind the scenes been an advocate for Beijing’s grand strategy,” the retired officer told Inside the Ring.

Mr. Rudd’s pro-Beijing position was highlighted by a recorded conversation between Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese and Deputy Secretary of State Kurt Campbell in Tonga last month.

Mr. Campbell was overheard telling Mr. Albanese that Mr. Rudd had lobbied the U.S. government not to get involved or sponsor a Pacific island policing initiative that would help coordinate anti-crime efforts among the islands. The deputy secretary said he spoke to Mr. Rudd and “he asked us not to do it.”

The policing initiative was launched by Australia a day after the conversation was posted on X by New Zealand reporter Lydia Lewis on Aug. 27.

In his letter to The Washington Times, Mr. Rudd did not address the issue of why he derailed the U.S. role in the police program. Instead, he said he regularly holds discussions with the Biden administration on Australia’s foreign policy priorities in the region and welcomes U.S. support for the Pacific islands, including policing.

Of his views on China, Mr. Rudd said his Sept. 4 speech to the National War College was an example of his positions.

In that speech, he argued that Chinese President Xi Jinping is reviving Marxism-Leninism, which is a “framework that causes Xi and the [Chinese Communist Party] to conclude that history is on China’s side, and that the capitalist West, led by the United States, will be swept aside, heralding, in turn, the birth of a new era in world history.”
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/sep/11/inside-ring-kevin-rudd-friend-or-foe-of-china/

How terrified is the government and opposition of Trump's wrath?

Rudd's reason for deleting his anti-Trump posts is that they were removed to 'prevent them from being misconstrued as the representative sentiments of the Australian government'.

They'd been up for 4 years!!

Now they're a problem??!!!

Even Dutton is biting his nails that a vindictive Trump will not discriminate between a Liberal government/opposition or a Labor government. He'll only see Australia as 'nasty guys'...

After all, Trump might think, isn't Liberal and Labor the same thing? Socialists?

He had a run-in with Turnbull back in 2017, so...