The Trump victory in the US will have - is beginning to have - a greater, more consequential impact than the Voice referendum victory. 
A similar change is beginning in Britain and Europe.

Keep a low profile be quiet and it may not be too bad for Australia.

Our politicians are no match for the Americans and it’s in the taxpayer interest they avoid all contact.

Scomo went over, got given a slap up feed, a marching band and a medal from Trump and it’s cost Australia 850 million and counting in submarines we don’t even have being built yet.

Americans love our politicians, they are viewed as that sucker who’s born every minute.

Trump could sell the Sydney Harbour Bridge to Albo and he would buy it!

Frank wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 8:07pm:

The Trump victory in the US will have - is beginning to have - a greater, more consequential impact than the Voice referendum victory.  A similar change is beginning in Britain and Europe.

Good - Dutton will romp in if he copies Trump.    ;)

Dnarever wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 9:10pm:

Keep a low profile be quiet and it may not be too bad for Australia.

A glimpse into duck wittery... 

Bobby. wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 9:17pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 11th, 2024 at 8:07pm: The Trump victory in the US will have - is beginning to have - a greater, more consequential impact than the Voice referendum victory.  A similar change is beginning in Britain and Europe. Good - Dutton will romp in if he copies Trump.    ;)

Last poll I heard today Duddo is all ready the preferred pm?

IMO he needs not copy anyone. His doing a excellent job now.
Just put forward a plan to wind back this “ big Australia” by stealth that Albo has let free and bring immigration under control and that’s really all he needs to put up and his got mine and the majority the country vote.

Daves2017 wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 9:16pm:

Our politicians are no match for the Americans and it’s in the taxpayer interest they avoid all contact. Scomo went over, got given a slap up feed, a marching band and a medal from Trump and it’s cost Australia 850 million and counting in submarines we don’t even have being built yet. Americans love our politicians, they are viewed as that sucker who’s born every minute. Trump could sell the Sydney Harbour Bridge to Albo and he would buy it!

I mean the cultural, values aspects and their more full-throated defence.

There will be a lot less timidity and polite  accommodation of the passive aggressive pwogwessive bullying.

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There will be a lot less timidity and polite  accommodation of the passive aggressive pwogwessive bullying.

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 10:26pm:

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Far coff, passive aggressive pwogwessive bully.


(Like this  ;D)

Frank wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 8:07pm:

The Trump victory in the US will have - is beginning to have - a greater, more consequential impact than the Voice referendum victory.  A similar change is beginning in Britain and Europe.

Trump's victory should extend the life of Western Culture a little further. Also it will put the brakes on the overreach of leftwing excesses. Trump is really only bringing the US back from the brink of the Democrat's "Error Catastrophe", one error after another which was moving the US light years away from the original intent of the Declaration of Independence

The Republicans before Trump are to blame as well, bring in the Patriot Act, and generally allowing the Deep State to run amok

The only way Trump will affect Lib/Lab Australia, is with trade, and foreign policy

Trump wants to deport millions immigrants who will more than likely not be accepted back into their native countries....Australia could be asked to take some of these immigrants as America took our inmmigrants during the Turnbull administration....Trump could demand Australia take refugees America does not want!!!


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Trump may deport hundreds of thousands of migrants whom Biden allowed to legally enter U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement has had a difficult time deporting migrants from China, as well as Nicaragua, Venezuela, Haiti and Cuba, because those countries often refuse to take back their nationals. Two sources familiar with the incoming administration’s plans said the Trump administration may consider sending migrants to third countries if their home country refuses to accept them. Trump used a similar policy at the end of his first term when the U.S. deported migrants from third countries to Guatemala.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trump-may-deport-hundreds-thousands-migrants-biden-allowed-legally-ent-rcna179357


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Donald Trump and Malcolm Turnbull's phone call: The full transcript Trump: Malcolm, why is this so important? I do not understand. This is going to kill me. I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country. And now I am agreeing to take 2,000 people and I agree I can vet them, but that puts me in a bad position. It makes me look so bad and I have only been here a week. Turnbull: Let me explain. We know exactly who they are. They have been on Nauru or Manus for over three years and the only reason we cannot let them into Australia is because of our commitment to not allow people to come by boat. Otherwise we would have let them in. If they had arrived by airplane and with a tourist visa then they would be here.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-04/donald-trump-malcolm-turnbull-refugee-phone-call-transcript/8773422

:-? :-? :-?

Trump may affect us more than you realise Bias.  He may affect us via our Superannuation, through our trade and through our foreign policy.  He may also affect us through our immigration and our race relations.  Tsk, tsk,  tsk...  ::) ::)

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 7:52am:

Trump wants to deport millions  OF ILLEGAL immigrants who will more than likely not be accepted back into their native countries...

corrected it for you.

Please tell us why America or Australia should accept illegals whose asylum claim has been rejected and who are not wanted by their own native countries either?

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 7:18am:

Frank wrote on Nov 11th, 2024 at 8:07pm: The Trump victory in the US will have - is beginning to have - a greater, more consequential impact than the Voice referendum victory.  A similar change is beginning in Britain and Europe. Trump's victory should extend the life of Western Culture a little further. Also it will put the brakes on the overreach of leftwing excesses. Trump is really only bringing the US back from the brink of the Democrat's "Error Catastrophe", one error after another which was moving the US light years away from the original intent of the Declaration of Independence The Republicans before Trump are to blame as well, bring in the Patriot Act, and generally allowing the Deep State to run amok The only way Trump will affect Lib/Lab Australia, is with trade, and foreign policy

... and not least a cultural shift. 

We'll see how happy Frank is when interest rates hit 10% because of the fat orange oompa loompas tarrifs

Frank wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 12:24pm:

Please tell us why America or Australia should accept illegals

Why should the aborigines?

Frank wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 12:24pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 7:52am: Trump wants to deport millions  OF ILLEGAL immigrants who will more than likely not be accepted back into their native countries... corrected it for you. Please tell us why America or Australia should accept illegals whose asylum claim has been rejected and who are not wanted by their own native countries either?

You don't want to understand do you Fwank....Trump want's to deport immigrants and he will need countries to take them....You don't think Trump will call Australia and make a deal???

From my post which you deleted....Australia should not take America's immigrants and Australia should not have asked America to take ours....


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Trump may deport hundreds of thousands of migrants whom Biden allowed to legally enter U.S.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trump-may-deport-hundreds-thousands-migrants-biden-allowed-legally-ent-rcna179357


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Donald Trump and Malcolm Turnbull's phone call: The full transcript

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-04/donald-trump-malcolm-turnbull-refugee-phone-call-transcript/8773422

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October 20, 2024
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Australia’s strong and growing defence relationship with the US should shield it from Donald Trump’s plans to dramatically hike tariffs on all US imports should he be re-elected, one of Washington’s most influential conservative leaders says.

tallowood wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 3:42pm:

October 20, 2024 ... Australia’s strong and growing defence relationship with the US should shield it from Donald Trump’s plans to dramatically hike tariffs on all US imports should he be re-elected, one of Washington’s most influential conservative leaders says.

Well, here’s hoping… not much else will… maybe minerals access… threatening the Pine Gap lease like Whitlam did… that worked the last time… oh wait!!

The Whitlam Hocking magic circle of wishful.

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 2:18pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 12:24pm: philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 7:52am: Trump wants to deport millions  OF ILLEGAL immigrants who will more than likely not be accepted back into their native countries... corrected it for you. Please tell us why America or Australia should accept illegals whose asylum claim has been rejected and who are not wanted by their own native countries either? You don't want to understand do you Fwank....Trump want's to deport immigrants and he will need countries to take them....You don't think Trump will call Australia and make a deal??? From my post which you deleted....Australia should not take America's immigrants and Australia should not have asked America to take ours.... Quote: Trump may deport hundreds of thousands of migrants whom Biden allowed to legally enter U.S. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trump-may-deport-hundreds-thousands-migrants-biden-allowed-legally-ent-rcna179357 [quote]Donald Trump and Malcolm Turnbull's phone call: The full transcript

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-04/donald-trump-malcolm-turnbull-refugee-phone-call-transcript/8773422

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Do you read beyond the headlines of your links?


Migrants who arrived in the U.S. legally under the two Biden administration programs — CBP One and the Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, Venezuela (CHNV) parole program — may be immune from deportation if they have already been granted asylum or are on the path toward it, or have another legal status to stay in the United States.



The cases Obama and Turnbull negotiated are completely different.

Frank wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 6:11pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 2:18pm: Frank wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 12:24pm: philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 7:52am: Trump wants to deport millions  OF ILLEGAL immigrants who will more than likely not be accepted back into their native countries... corrected it for you. Please tell us why America or Australia should accept illegals whose asylum claim has been rejected and who are not wanted by their own native countries either? You don't want to understand do you Fwank....Trump want's to deport immigrants and he will need countries to take them....You don't think Trump will call Australia and make a deal??? From my post which you deleted....Australia should not take America's immigrants and Australia should not have asked America to take ours.... Quote: Trump may deport hundreds of thousands of migrants whom Biden allowed to legally enter U.S. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trump-may-deport-hundreds-thousands-migrants-biden-allowed-legally-ent-rcna179357 [quote]Donald Trump and Malcolm Turnbull's phone call: The full transcript https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-04/donald-trump-malcolm-turnbull-refugee-phone-call-transcript/8773422 ::) ::) ::)

Do you read beyond the headlines of your links?


Migrants who arrived in the U.S. legally under the two Biden administration programs — CBP One and the Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, Venezuela (CHNV) parole program — may be immune from deportation if they have already been granted asylum or are on the path toward it, or have another legal status to stay in the United States.

The cases Obama and Turnbull negotiated are completely different. [/quote]

So you don't believe Trump will ask Australia to take illegal immigrants from America....We will see???

8-) 8-) 8-)

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 6:32pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 6:11pm: philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 2:18pm: Frank wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 12:24pm: philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 7:52am: Trump wants to deport millions  OF ILLEGAL immigrants who will more than likely not be accepted back into their native countries... corrected it for you. Please tell us why America or Australia should accept illegals whose asylum claim has been rejected and who are not wanted by their own native countries either? You don't want to understand do you Fwank....Trump want's to deport immigrants and he will need countries to take them....You don't think Trump will call Australia and make a deal??? From my post which you deleted....Australia should not take America's immigrants and Australia should not have asked America to take ours.... Quote: Trump may deport hundreds of thousands of migrants whom Biden allowed to legally enter U.S. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trump-may-deport-hundreds-thousands-migrants-biden-allowed-legally-ent-rcna179357 [quote]Donald Trump and Malcolm Turnbull's phone call: The full transcript https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-04/donald-trump-malcolm-turnbull-refugee-phone-call-transcript/8773422 ::) ::) ::) Do you read beyond the headlines of your links? Migrants who arrived in the U.S. legally under the two Biden administration programs — CBP One and the Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, Venezuela (CHNV) parole program — may be immune from deportation if they have already been granted asylum or are on the path toward it, or have another legal status to stay in the United States. The cases Obama and Turnbull negotiated are completely different.

So you don't believe Trump will ask Australia to take illegal immigrants from America....We will see???

8-) 8-) 8-)[/quote]
On what basis would he?
Why not just deport them to the country they entered the US illegally from ?

Frank wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 6:34pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 6:32pm: Frank wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 6:11pm: philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 2:18pm: Frank wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 12:24pm: philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 7:52am: Trump wants to deport millions  OF ILLEGAL immigrants who will more than likely not be accepted back into their native countries... corrected it for you. Please tell us why America or Australia should accept illegals whose asylum claim has been rejected and who are not wanted by their own native countries either? You don't want to understand do you Fwank....Trump want's to deport immigrants and he will need countries to take them....You don't think Trump will call Australia and make a deal??? From my post which you deleted....Australia should not take America's immigrants and Australia should not have asked America to take ours.... Quote: Trump may deport hundreds of thousands of migrants whom Biden allowed to legally enter U.S. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trump-may-deport-hundreds-thousands-migrants-biden-allowed-legally-ent-rcna179357 [quote]Donald Trump and Malcolm Turnbull's phone call: The full transcript https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-04/donald-trump-malcolm-turnbull-refugee-phone-call-transcript/8773422 ::) ::) ::) Do you read beyond the headlines of your links? Migrants who arrived in the U.S. legally under the two Biden administration programs — CBP One and the Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, Venezuela (CHNV) parole program — may be immune from deportation if they have already been granted asylum or are on the path toward it, or have another legal status to stay in the United States. The cases Obama and Turnbull negotiated are completely different. So you don't believe Trump will ask Australia to take illegal immigrants from America....We will see??? 8-) 8-) 8-)

On what basis would he?
Why not just deport them to the country they entered the US illegally from ? [/quote]

Mexico....See how that goes???

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tallowood wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 3:42pm:

October 20, 2024 ... Australia’s strong and growing defence relationship with the US should shield it from Donald Trump’s plans to dramatically hike tariffs on all US imports should he be re-elected, one of Washington’s most influential conservative leaders says.

The trade deal in force between Australia and the US is very much to the USA's advantage. We would do well to be rid of it anyway.

The Statue of Liberty for the huddled masses yearning to breathe free is yesterday. It needs replacing by a Pres Trump with fist pump.

Mexico has put the US on notice that it will not accept non-Mexican deportees even if they used Mexico as a transit country.

Venezuela has currently suspended deportee acceptance. Other Latin American countries have put the US on notice that it will not accept large numbers of deportees.

The Biden Administration was negotiating with Mexico and other South American countries to establish Australian-style detention centres, but they must be fully funded by the US.

Remember the Alamo!

The most likely outcome will be similar to the big beautiful wall…

Several thousand illegal immigrants whose identities are known, and the US pays the country of origin, will be deported…

Just enough to quell the Yankist dumbcunts… then the Administration will move on…

Maybe if the US pays Mexico billions they’ll let the US build a detention centre in Mexico and the US will fully fund it.

doesnt matter if he doesnt deport a single illegal

the left will still get the blame

this is a gift that keeps on giving for donald

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 7:38pm:

The most likely outcome will be similar to the big beautiful wall…

Ah, yes.

Four miles of chicken wire which fell over in the wind.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 7:45pm:

doesnt matter if he doesnt deport a single illegal the left will still get the blame this is a gift that keeps on giving for donald

Yer what??!!

You mean it was a lie?

Next you’ll be telling me there’ll be more war in Ukraine and Gaza and no tariffs!

With inflation plummeting as it has been all year as has the cpi and unemployment… looks like golf will be Trumps achievements for the Yankists.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 6:57pm:

tallowood wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 3:42pm: October 20, 2024 ... Australia’s strong and growing defence relationship with the US should shield it from Donald Trump’s plans to dramatically hike tariffs on all US imports should he be re-elected, one of Washington’s most influential conservative leaders says. The trade deal in force between Australia and the US is very much to the USA's advantage. We would do well to be rid of it anyway.

Every deal made by our politicians with America sees us on the losing end.
Americans are just way too smart for our politicians.

Remember the rust filled naval vessel they sold us we paid full for and had to scrape?

I think that was one of many kim breazley blunders?

Daves2017 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 9:58pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 6:57pm: tallowood wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 3:42pm: October 20, 2024 ... Australia’s strong and growing defence relationship with the US should shield it from Donald Trump’s plans to dramatically hike tariffs on all US imports should he be re-elected, one of Washington’s most influential conservative leaders says. The trade deal in force between Australia and the US is very much to the USA's advantage. We would do well to be rid of it anyway. Every deal made by our politicians with America sees us on the losing end. Americans are just way too smart for our politicians. Remember the rust filled naval vessel they sold us we paid full for and had to scrape? I think that was one of many kim breazley blunders?

It's a good bet that the US uses these deals as scams to cover for Australia paying protection money to the Yankist 'mob'.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 7:45pm:

doesnt matter if he doesnt deport a single illegal the left will still get the blame

yes, those that vote for Donald ARE that stupid. Thanks for confirming it

John Smith wrote on Nov 13^th, 2024 at 6:30am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 7:45pm: doesnt matter if he doesnt deport a single illegal the left will still get the blame yes, those that vote for Donald ARE that stupid. Thanks for confirming it

:D



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3 Oct 2024 The Dominican Republic says it plans to expel as many as 10,000 Haitian migrants per week, despite a longstanding call from the United Nations to end forced returns to Haiti amid a surge in gang violence there. Homero Figueroa, a Dominican presidential spokesman, said on Wednesday that the “operation aims to reduce the excessive migrant populations detected in Dominican communities”. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/3/dominican-republic-says-will-expel-up-to-10000-haitian-migrants-a-week

But, but, but..... How can they do this?  :'( :'( :'(

Plans to expel illegals are not achieving it.

If the receiving country closes its borders and blockades transport ships from berthing, what's the alternative? Invasion and war?

The only option, like Singapore, is to threaten to sink an approaching vessel before it reaches land.

Some good news:-

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/trump-team-s-ominous-response-to-rudd/ar-AA1tYiOj?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=aeca9b39bfe34ef8fbc32e8b1b3af5f7&ei=9

"Last week, Mr Rudd congratulated Mr Trump on his historic White House win in a social media post, writing on X that Australia “looks forward to working closely with President Trump and his Administration”.

But overnight, Dan Scavino, a longtime close associate of the US President-elect, replied to the Australian ambassador’s congratulatory note with a GIF of an hourglass."

Time to recall the Rude Rudd and post him to Oblivion where he rightly belongs... instead of continuing to feed out of the fattest trough in the land after stuffing the country up.