i think you could make a good arguement he is.

He has eviscerated the left.

They may never come back from this.

After he finishes the wall, he should start work at Mt Rushmore

pelosi , Aoc, maddow, hilary, hunter , whoopi , de niro and taylor swift could be put in a chain gang and made to build it

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Only in his own mind. Lets see how other Republicans react when he gets back into the White House and starts enacting his crazy, stupid plans and how they will affect their chances at the mid-term elections. They're already upset at his pick for A-G.

He is undoubtedly striving to emulate the authoritarian model he so openly admires. His cabinet selections reflect this ambition: loyalty over competence, sycophants over experts. These are not appointments made to serve the country but to serve his ego, ensuring every directive is met with uncritical compliance.

The military will not be spared either. The moment he seizes the opportunity, he’ll purge dissenting Generals, seeking replacements who align with his warped ideals, Generals who will obey without question, much like those who facilitated the worst regimes in history.  We know what he said about Hitler's Generals after all.

He cannot tolerate dissent. His past humiliations, whether over ludicrous suggestions like injecting bleach or the refusal of the National Weather Service to falsify hurricane maps for his fragile pride forcing him to do so with a sharpie himself, still gnaw at him. This time, he seeks absolute obedience: inject the bleach, swallow the horse paste, and squander resources on storms headed nowhere, all because the "dear leader" cannot comprehend, or doesn't care enough, how dangerous his lying is.

It has consequences.  But clearly not for him, so he doesn't care.

Yes, he may become the most powerful president in modern history, but let us not forget that his rise has been paved with lawlessness. The question is whether he’s learned from his previous failures. Will he tread more carefully this time?

It’s doubtful. He’s a man who craves power but eschews the burdens of responsibility. Instead of earning it, he cuts corners, relying on a toxic blend of laziness, ignorance, and blind loyalty from his inner circle.

This reckless approach poses immense danger, not just domestically but globally. With his susceptibility to manipulation and a coterie of sycophants feeding his delusions, adversaries like China, Russia, and North Korea are poised to exploit his weaknesses, securing their gains while he undermines his own nation from within.

As the saying goes, with great power...

But it's useless with a man who has skirted every possible responsibility he's ever had, always finding someone else to blame, and his first term was a perfect example of this.

I think you're asking the wrong questions Scoot.

Good leadership listens to all voices, not ensuring there is none of reason within the ranks.

Quote:

Is Trump The Most Powerful POTUS of ALL TIME

Yes of course he is. The supreme court has ruled that laws do not apply to him. He can and will do anything.

A huge concern to any remaining sane Americans.

Trump has no morals and he has no checks and balances. America will be sorry for this mistake.

Even Epstein called out Trump as the person he knows who has no morals.

Now that doesn't come from very high moral ground, in fact it is from a particularly low vantage point. The bottom of the barrel is looking down to see Trump.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 5:05am:

They may never come back from this.

Predicting the future under Trump is no easy task, particularly when he seems devoid of any coherent plan, or at least unwilling to articulate one.

Unless, of course, his "plan" is simply the well-worn refrain: cut taxes for the wealthy while shifting the burden onto the poor and uneducated, ironically, the demographic that forms much of his base. He accomplishes this by imposing tariffs that make imported goods unaffordable and gutting essential public services upon which they depend. If that’s the sum total of his economic vision, the outlook is grim.

Should he proceed with either the vague promises he has teased or the infamous Project 2025, the economic and social fallout could be devastating. His base, though loyal, would not remain unscathed. At some point, the pain,rising costs, diminished services, economic stagnation, will become impossible to ignore. The question then becomes: can he deflect the blame?

Perhaps he will attempt to spin disaster as salvation: “Yes, it’s bad, but imagine how much worse it would’ve been without me. You’re welcome.” Or, when all else fails, he may resort to the ultimate distraction, a war. Nothing consolidates power like the mantle of a “tough” wartime president.

But the truth is clear: Trump’s interest has never been in doing the job, only in possessing it. He covets the power, the prestige, the adulation, not the responsibility. If maintaining that power requires sacrificing thousands of lives, whether through military conflicts or the collapse of critical social safety nets, so be it. The cost will not be his to bear, after all. To him, the lives lost, the financial ruin, the suffering, these are mere collateral in his relentless pursuit of ego and more importantly, Power.

And we all know it's true, even you Scoot, it's just as long as it's owning the libs, you don't care.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 5:05am:

After he finishes the wall, he should start work at Mt Rushmore pelosi , Aoc, maddow, hilary, hunter , whoopi , de niro and taylor swift could be put in a chain gang and made to build it

aquascoot,

This suggestion, is not from the light.



In any metaphorical sense, maybe yes.



Difficult times are coming aquascoot.

We will all get to choose where we stand.

God does not 'run' a 'press gang'.

US missiles hit Russia! Putin threatens Trump with a Third World War!


Nov 19, 2024 

Host Daniel Tkiie, together with his guest Rupert Jones
(Retired British Army Major General)  talked about the change in the course
of the war as a result of Ukraine's use of long-range weapons,
which the USA recently allowed to be used as strikes deep into the enemy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvoM1k32Xh0

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 5:05am:

After he finishes the wall, he should start work at Mt Rushmore pelosi , Aoc, maddow, hilary, hunter , whoopi , de niro and taylor swift could be put in a chain gang and made to build it

https://www.hookedonline.com.au/assets/thumbL/3FWG50YC.jpg


Don't worry Yada he is just fishing.

Quote:

Is Trump The Most Powerful POTUS of ALL TIME

Yes Most powerful most corrupt and least competent.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 5:05am:

i think you could make a good arguement he is. He has eviscerated the left. They may never come back from this. After he finishes the wall, he should start work at Mt Rushmore pelosi , Aoc, maddow, hilary, hunter , whoopi , de niro and taylor swift could be put in a chain gang and made to build it

Christ of a bike the sheer toadying!

Never in my life have i felt so inclined to hero-worship as Horseboy does over Trump.

To be fair, most of Horseboy's persona is based on sycophantic hero-worship of one ludicrous "guru" or another so there's little surprise he's fallen for this particular snake-oil salesman. Again, never in my life. Closest i came to it was thinking Cyndi Lauper was cool when i was 6.

But the dedication to worship at the altar! How many threads are we up to now?

And what on earth is all this obliterating the left horseshit? The left is still there, honey. Science and academia still on our side. As with most of the rest of the world. 4 years is nothing. It's just the ebb and flow of politics. Meanwhile, the world becomes more caring, compassionate and inclusive. There is simply nothing you can do to stop that. You can only hurl golf balls at it.

And we will wath as the people of the US live under the bonkers ideas of Trump and all those who've hitched their nefarious wagons to his star. Some of us will be more surprised than others.

But as for salivating, pulsating fan bois in Australia, there's few to match Horseboy. It's almost like he;s personally identifying. Like he's got skin in the game.


I find it deeply funny, given his consistent fangirling out to his alpha gurus, that he accuses other people of being obsessed. Much pot and kettle shenanigans.

Mothra,
you should be thanking all those who supported Trump
as at least we have a better chance of surviving now.
Trump is searching for peace not WW3 with nuclear weapons.

Biden and Putin both want to risk WW3 over 4 little provinces in Ukraine
that no one had heard of 3 years ago.

There is a lot of optimism, atm, within 'the Trump camp',
about what they believe that they will be able to accomplish.

TWO VIDEOS   ------- >


#01
'HISTORIC OPPORTUNITY': Vivek Ramaswamy lays out vision for DOGE

10 min


https://old.bitchute.com/video/TPMY7Igid0M/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPMY7Igid0M


.


#02
DOJ should not be used as this, former federal prosecutor warns

05 min


https://old.bitchute.com/video/6Rv3YxN0VQw/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rv3YxN0VQw

I honestly don't understand why you lot are not dissuaded by the sheer lunacy of those sharing your opinions.

You don't understand most of what is said here Mothra.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 7:10am:

Mothra, you should be thanking all those who supported Trump as at least we have a better chance of surviving now. Trump is searching for peace not WW3 with nuclear weapons. Biden and Putin both want to risk WW3 over 4 little provinces in Ukraine that no one had heard of 3 years ago.

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Jasin wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 7:42am:

You don't understand most of what is said here Mothra.

I understand what is said, Jasin. It's not hard. It's base conspiracy theories and even baser hero worship of wannabe iconoclasts.

What i will never understand is why. I mean surely, lack of education can't account for it all.

Be assured, i'm not asking you directly. You're an outlier.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 7:10am:

Mothra, you should be thanking all those who supported Trump as at least we have a better chance of surviving now. Trump is searching for peace not WW3 with nuclear weapons. Biden and Putin both want to risk WW3 over 4 little provinces in Ukraine that no one had heard of 3 years ago.

If Trump bends the knee to Putin and lets Ukraine fall, strengthening Russia, is that a good outcome do you think Bobbi?

If not, how else is he going to resolve that conflict, there by ensuring that won't be a trigger for a world war, on day one?

::)

mothra wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 7:47am:

Jasin wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:42am: You don't understand most of what is said here Mothra. It's base conspiracy theories and even baser hero worship of wannabe iconoclasts.

Who are your heroes?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 7:54am:

mothra wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:47am: Jasin wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:42am: You don't understand most of what is said here Mothra. It's base conspiracy theories and even baser hero worship of wannabe iconoclasts. Who are your heroes?

I don't have any. I grew out of that during puberty.

mothra wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 7:56am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:54am: mothra wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:47am: Jasin wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:42am: You don't understand most of what is said here Mothra. It's base conspiracy theories and even baser hero worship of wannabe iconoclasts. Who are your heroes? I don't have any. I grew out of that during puberty.

Of course you don't. Iconoclastic sh!t smearing is your speed.

mothra wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 7:47am:

Jasin wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:42am: You don't understand most of what is said here Mothra. I understand what is said, Jasin. It's not hard. It's base conspiracy theories and even baser hero worship of wannabe iconoclasts. What i will never understand is why. I mean surely, lack of education can't account for it all. Be assured, i'm not asking you directly. You're an outlier.

It’s genuinely fascinating to observe.

After typical elections, the interlude between crowning the president-elect and the inauguration is usually dominated by discussions about their policies: how they’ll achieve them, whether the opposition will cooperate, and what the tangible outcomes might look like for the electorate.

You simply can’t have that discussion with 45.

There’s no coherent policy framework to unpack. Beyond tariffs, which 45’s own base will end up footing the bill for, and cuts to essential services they rely upon (while leaving subsidies for billionaires like Musk untouched), the agenda is essentially a massive wealth transfer via tax cuts for the rich.

These aren’t exactly the kinds of talking points that bolster 45’s image.

Instead, we’re inundated with threads like, “Is 45 the Most Powerful POTUS of ALL TIME?”

It’s a deliberately leading question, designed to sideline substantive debate. Any response that doesn’t align with Scoot’s narrative is dismissed outright as “fake news” or derided as the product of the mainstream media.

Even in victory, there’s an almost pathological desperation to stifle meaningful policy discussions in favour of distractions.

As I said, it's interesting to observe.

I wonder how long it will take for them to default back to full-blown victimhood and claim the establishment is out to get them still.

News flash, you ARE the establishment now.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 8:03am:

mothra wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:47am: Jasin wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:42am: You don't understand most of what is said here Mothra. I understand what is said, Jasin. It's not hard. It's base conspiracy theories and even baser hero worship of wannabe iconoclasts. What i will never understand is why. I mean surely, lack of education can't account for it all. Be assured, i'm not asking you directly. You're an outlier. It’s genuinely fascinating to observe. After typical elections, the interlude between crowning the president-elect and the inauguration is usually dominated by discussions about their policies: how they’ll achieve them, whether the opposition will cooperate, and what the tangible outcomes might look like for the electorate. You simply can’t have that discussion with 45. There’s no coherent policy framework to unpack. Beyond tariffs, which 45’s own base will end up footing the bill for, and cuts to essential services they rely upon (while leaving subsidies for billionaires like Musk untouched), the agenda is essentially a massive wealth transfer via tax cuts for the rich. These aren’t exactly the kinds of talking points that bolster 45’s image. Instead, we’re inundated with threads like, “Is 45 the Most Powerful POTUS of ALL TIME?” It’s a deliberately leading question, designed to sideline substantive debate. Any response that doesn’t align with Scoot’s narrative is dismissed outright as “fake news” or derided as the product of the mainstream media. Even in victory, there’s an almost pathological desperation to stifle meaningful policy discussions in favour of distractions. As I said, it's interesting to observe. I wonder how long it will take for them to default back to full-blown victimhood and claim the establishment is out to get them still. News flash, you ARE the establishment now.

Policies are not important to the weirdos that infest Ozpol any more than they are important to the MAGA crowd. They're all about culture wars and reserving the right to be a exclusionary and bigoted as they like.

What gets me is the massive amounts of Americans who fell for Trump's overt lies.

There's no denying the financial hardship in the US is a direct result of a post Covid world and wider international politics and that Biden has actually done remarkably well steering through it, leaving the next government in a surprisingly good position, considering ... but still, people fell for the lies.

We shall see how Trump does. I for one am hoping for as little damage as possible.

Jasin wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 7:42am:

You don't understand most of what is said here Mothra.

Hi Pot.

Unlike you Mothra seems well balanced and to understand posts.

On the other hand your posts seldom if ever display any understanding of what they comment on.

mothra wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 8:13am:

We shall see how Trump does. I for one am hoping for as little damage as possible.

Then you're in luck.

All US Administrations since WW2 have run security protection rackets with their allies. Australia has committed to the latest protection racket by signing up for a submarine 'deal' until 2040.

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The Most Powerful POTUS of ALL TIME

Powerful POTUS or just Obnoxious SCUMBAG. The eye of the beholder.

mothra wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 8:13am:

..........  Policies are not important to the weirdos that infest Ozpol any more than they are important to the MAGA crowd. They're all about culture wars and reserving the right to be a exclusionary and bigoted as they like. What gets me is the massive amounts of Americans who fell for Trump's overt lies. There's no denying the financial hardship in the US is a direct result of a post Covid world and wider international politics and that Biden has actually done remarkably well steering through it, leaving the next government in a surprisingly good position, considering ... but still, people fell for the lies. We shall see how Trump does. I for one am hoping for as little damage as possible.

Americas in quite a good position economically
Unemployment at 4.1, inflation about 2.3.

It is a divided nation so bad in that aspect.
trump has promised to gut the government and replace them with trump loyalists, stop medicare and cause accelerated climate damage, give tax cuts to billionaires, oppose unions, increase inflation.
I am sure he will do that

If you are poor or average in america now, tougher times are ahead of you

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 8:46am:

mothra wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:13am: ..........  Policies are not important to the weirdos that infest Ozpol any more than they are important to the MAGA crowd. They're all about culture wars and reserving the right to be a exclusionary and bigoted as they like. What gets me is the massive amounts of Americans who fell for Trump's overt lies. There's no denying the financial hardship in the US is a direct result of a post Covid world and wider international politics and that Biden has actually done remarkably well steering through it, leaving the next government in a surprisingly good position, considering ... but still, people fell for the lies. We shall see how Trump does. I for one am hoping for as little damage as possible. Americas in quite a good position economically Unemployment at 4.1, inflation about 2.3. It is a divided nation so bad in that aspect. trump has promised to gut the government and replace them with trump loyalists, stop medicare and cause accelerated climate damage, give tax cuts to billionaires, oppose unions, increase inflation. I am sure he will do that If you are poor or average in america now, tougher times are ahead of you

I hope i'm wrong but i fear that the most disadvantaged Americans will be particularly vulnerable ... and with talk of massive government spending slashes, safety nets for the disadvantaged are always the first thing to go.

mothra wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 8:51am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:46am: mothra wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:13am: ..........  Policies are not important to the weirdos that infest Ozpol any more than they are important to the MAGA crowd. They're all about culture wars and reserving the right to be a exclusionary and bigoted as they like. What gets me is the massive amounts of Americans who fell for Trump's overt lies. There's no denying the financial hardship in the US is a direct result of a post Covid world and wider international politics and that Biden has actually done remarkably well steering through it, leaving the next government in a surprisingly good position, considering ... but still, people fell for the lies. We shall see how Trump does. I for one am hoping for as little damage as possible. Americas in quite a good position economically Unemployment at 4.1, inflation about 2.3. It is a divided nation so bad in that aspect. trump has promised to gut the government and replace them with trump loyalists, stop medicare and cause accelerated climate damage, give tax cuts to billionaires, oppose unions, increase inflation. I am sure he will do that If you are poor or average in america now, tougher times are ahead of you I hope i'm wrong but i fear that the most disadvantaged Americans will be particularly vulnerable ... and with talk of massive government spending slashes, safety nets for the disadvantaged are always the first thing to go.

Ironically, some of the rapist's most fervent followers will suffer the most under the convicted felon's second disastrous term.

His golf buddies will benefit the most.

mothra wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 8:51am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:46am: mothra wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:13am: ..........  Policies are not important to the weirdos that infest Ozpol any more than they are important to the MAGA crowd. They're all about culture wars and reserving the right to be a exclusionary and bigoted as they like. What gets me is the massive amounts of Americans who fell for Trump's overt lies. There's no denying the financial hardship in the US is a direct result of a post Covid world and wider international politics and that Biden has actually done remarkably well steering through it, leaving the next government in a surprisingly good position, considering ... but still, people fell for the lies. We shall see how Trump does. I for one am hoping for as little damage as possible. Americas in quite a good position economically Unemployment at 4.1, inflation about 2.3. It is a divided nation so bad in that aspect. trump has promised to gut the government and replace them with trump loyalists, stop medicare and cause accelerated climate damage, give tax cuts to billionaires, oppose unions, increase inflation. I am sure he will do that If you are poor or average in america now, tougher times are ahead of you I hope i'm wrong but i fear that the most disadvantaged Americans will be particularly vulnerable ... and with talk of massive government spending slashes, safety nets for the disadvantaged are always the first thing to go.

World To End Tomorrow: Women, Minorities Hardest Hit

Frank wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 9:48am:

mothra wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:51am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:46am: mothra wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:13am: ..........  Policies are not important to the weirdos that infest Ozpol any more than they are important to the MAGA crowd. They're all about culture wars and reserving the right to be a exclusionary and bigoted as they like. What gets me is the massive amounts of Americans who fell for Trump's overt lies. There's no denying the financial hardship in the US is a direct result of a post Covid world and wider international politics and that Biden has actually done remarkably well steering through it, leaving the next government in a surprisingly good position, considering ... but still, people fell for the lies. We shall see how Trump does. I for one am hoping for as little damage as possible. Americas in quite a good position economically Unemployment at 4.1, inflation about 2.3. It is a divided nation so bad in that aspect. trump has promised to gut the government and replace them with trump loyalists, stop medicare and cause accelerated climate damage, give tax cuts to billionaires, oppose unions, increase inflation. I am sure he will do that If you are poor or average in america now, tougher times are ahead of you I hope i'm wrong but i fear that the most disadvantaged Americans will be particularly vulnerable ... and with talk of massive government spending slashes, safety nets for the disadvantaged are always the first thing to go. World To End Tomorrow: Women, Minorities Hardest Hit

I honestly don't know how to take that post.

A frightening glimpse into Frank's diseased mind?

mothra wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 8:51am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:46am: mothra wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:13am: ..........  Policies are not important to the weirdos that infest Ozpol any more than they are important to the MAGA crowd. They're all about culture wars and reserving the right to be a exclusionary and bigoted as they like. What gets me is the massive amounts of Americans who fell for Trump's overt lies. There's no denying the financial hardship in the US is a direct result of a post Covid world and wider international politics and that Biden has actually done remarkably well steering through it, leaving the next government in a surprisingly good position, considering ... but still, people fell for the lies. We shall see how Trump does. I for one am hoping for as little damage as possible. Americas in quite a good position economically Unemployment at 4.1, inflation about 2.3. It is a divided nation so bad in that aspect. trump has promised to gut the government and replace them with trump loyalists, stop medicare and cause accelerated climate damage, give tax cuts to billionaires, oppose unions, increase inflation. I am sure he will do that If you are poor or average in america now, tougher times are ahead of you I hope i'm wrong but i fear that the most disadvantaged Americans will be particularly vulnerable ... and with talk of massive government spending slashes, safety nets for the disadvantaged are always the first thing to go.

Yep - Lock that in Eddie.

But that is just normal for Republicans. It will be way worse than just that.

mothra wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 8:51am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:46am: mothra wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:13am: ..........  Policies are not important to the weirdos that infest Ozpol any more than they are important to the MAGA crowd. They're all about culture wars and reserving the right to be a exclusionary and bigoted as they like. What gets me is the massive amounts of Americans who fell for Trump's overt lies. There's no denying the financial hardship in the US is a direct result of a post Covid world and wider international politics and that Biden has actually done remarkably well steering through it, leaving the next government in a surprisingly good position, considering ... but still, people fell for the lies. We shall see how Trump does. I for one am hoping for as little damage as possible. Americas in quite a good position economically Unemployment at 4.1, inflation about 2.3. It is a divided nation so bad in that aspect. trump has promised to gut the government and replace them with trump loyalists, stop medicare and cause accelerated climate damage, give tax cuts to billionaires, oppose unions, increase inflation. I am sure he will do that If you are poor or average in america now, tougher times are ahead of you I hope i'm wrong but i fear that the most disadvantaged Americans will be particularly vulnerable ... and with talk of massive government spending slashes, safety nets for the disadvantaged are always the first thing to go.

yes.
this is emphasised by the tax cuts for the billionaires the poor voted for.

Once the added inflation due to tariffs drifts in the situation now will look a dream to many.
They they voted in a convicted felon is beyond sensible thought

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 8:46am:

Americas in quite a good position economically Unemployment at 4.1, inflation about 2.3.

And it got there by allowing illegal immigrants to flood the country... It explains the inflation U-turn - illegals being prepared to work unrecorded at something like $5 / hour.

Overheads plummetted.

What didn't happen was those savings were largely not passed on to the consumer, which explains the paradox of inflation plummeting while consumers were still paying high inflation prices at retail.

The idea that illegal immigration of Central Americans was a Denocrat vote-banking ploy was always ridiculous.

Central Americans, like most South Americans, are mostly conservatives, arch-conservatives even, and Catholic - an ancestrally arch-conservative form of Christianity.

What the Democrats did was what they had no choice but to do, to lower inflation in record time.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 10:00am:

mothra wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:51am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:46am: mothra wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:13am: ..........  Policies are not important to the weirdos that infest Ozpol any more than they are important to the MAGA crowd. They're all about culture wars and reserving the right to be a exclusionary and bigoted as they like. What gets me is the massive amounts of Americans who fell for Trump's overt lies. There's no denying the financial hardship in the US is a direct result of a post Covid world and wider international politics and that Biden has actually done remarkably well steering through it, leaving the next government in a surprisingly good position, considering ... but still, people fell for the lies. We shall see how Trump does. I for one am hoping for as little damage as possible. Americas in quite a good position economically Unemployment at 4.1, inflation about 2.3. It is a divided nation so bad in that aspect. trump has promised to gut the government and replace them with trump loyalists, stop medicare and cause accelerated climate damage, give tax cuts to billionaires, oppose unions, increase inflation. I am sure he will do that If you are poor or average in america now, tougher times are ahead of you I hope i'm wrong but i fear that the most disadvantaged Americans will be particularly vulnerable ... and with talk of massive government spending slashes, safety nets for the disadvantaged are always the first thing to go. yes. this is emphasised by the tax cuts for the billionaires the poor voted for. Once the added inflation due to tariffs drifts in the situation now will look a dream to many. That they voted in a convicted felon is beyond sensible thought

Buyers' remorse will hit them hard.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 10:01am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:46am: Americas in quite a good position economically Unemployment at 4.1, inflation about 2.3. And it got there by allowing illegal immigrants to flood the country... It explains the inflation U-turn - illegals being prepared to work unrecorded at something like $5 / hour. Overheads plummetted. What didn't happen was those savings were largely not passed on to the consumer, which explains the paradox of inflation plummeting while consumers were still paying high inflation prices at retail. The idea that illegal immigration of Central Americans was a Denocrat vote-banking ploy was always ridiculous. Central Americans, like most South Americans, are mostly conservatives, arch-conservatives even, and Catholic - an ancestrally arch-conservative form of Christianity. What the Democrats did was what they had no choice but to do, to lower inflation in record time.

Surely no one believes that the dribbling mess Biden became masked an economics genius mind at work?

It just boiled down to straight arithmetic...

The more people prepared to work as virtual slaves, the quicker overheads will fall.

Why else would anyone think that the Southern States were once prepared to risk war to defend slavery?

mothra wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 8:13am:

We shall see how Trump does. I for one am hoping for as little damage as possible.

I would love to be proven wrong about the likely outcome of 45 altering the levers at his disposal.

But the last time he was handed a recovering economy, this time from the GFC, not COVID, he slowed the recovery.

If he'd done nothing, the US would have been in a better place.

But the stock market looked great, that's why it's all we ever heard of, just like the betting markets in the lead-up to the election.

So as much as I'd love to be wrong and congratulate 45 for making America great again for those who voted for him, history is not on his side.

Biden's 'performance' over the last two years of his presidency is eerily similar to that of Leonid Brezhnev who in his later years suffered from early-stage dementia.

To his credit, Brezhnev begged the Politburo to let him retire with dignity but he was refused - forcing him to walk on stage as the shambling wreck he became until he died.

The world saw the same thing with Yeltsin in the late 90s.

To their eternal discredit, the Democrats in the US tried to pull a Soviet-style Brezhnev stunt and tell the world Biden was a 'dynamo' when all the world saw, was a shambling, confused old man stumbling across the world stage progressively making a bigger fool of himself as he went - as Brezhnev and Yeltsin before him had done.

All the while, Biden's Party, and his longtime trusted colleagues, were prepared to strip him of all his dignity... And for what?

They deserved to lose worse than they did.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 11:03am:

All the while, Biden's Party, and his longtime trusted colleagues, were prepared to strip him of all his dignity... And for what?

A few reasons come to mind...

While his Administration ran things for him... if they f~cked it up...

Bumbling Biden's fault.

Covid cock-up? Biden.

Mass illegal immigration becomes an issue? - Biden (although he did get a win there and handed that to Harris)

No post-covid recovery... Biden.

Ukraine? Biden

No doubt the Soviet Politburo were doing the same sh!t to Brezhnev - like starting and running the Soviet-Afghan war in his name, for example.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 7:51am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:10am: Mothra, you should be thanking all those who supported Trump as at least we have a better chance of surviving now. Trump is searching for peace not WW3 with nuclear weapons. Biden and Putin both want to risk WW3 over 4 little provinces in Ukraine that no one had heard of 3 years ago. If Trump bends the knee to Putin and lets Ukraine fall, strengthening Russia, is that a good outcome do you think Bobbi? If not, how else is he going to resolve that conflict, there by ensuring that won't be a trigger for a world war, on day one?

Let's not speculate.
A lot can happen in 60 or more days.
Putin might shake in his boots when he has Trump to deal with
instead of sleepy Joe.

Putin considering nuclear war ‘before Christmas’ in response to
long-range missiles for Ukraine.

Nov 18, 2024      #TimesRadio

“France, Britain, and United States have made a very big step to nuclear war and catastrophe just drawing closer.”

Putin is considering how to respond to Biden’s authorisation of long-range missiles for Ukraine, and could go nuclear “before Christmas Day”, Sergey Markov tells     #TimesRadio.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mco_E19-j9Y

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 10:13am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 10:01am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:46am: Americas in quite a good position economically Unemployment at 4.1, inflation about 2.3. And it got there by allowing illegal immigrants to flood the country... It explains the inflation U-turn - illegals being prepared to work unrecorded at something like $5 / hour. Overheads plummetted. What didn't happen was those savings were largely not passed on to the consumer, which explains the paradox of inflation plummeting while consumers were still paying high inflation prices at retail. The idea that illegal immigration of Central Americans was a Denocrat vote-banking ploy was always ridiculous. Central Americans, like most South Americans, are mostly conservatives, arch-conservatives even, and Catholic - an ancestrally arch-conservative form of Christianity. What the Democrats did was what they had no choice but to do, to lower inflation in record time. Surely no one believes that the dribbling mess Biden became masked an economics genius mind at work? It just boiled down to straight arithmetic... The more people prepared to work as virtual slaves, the quicker overheads will fall. Why else would anyone think that the Southern States were once prepared to risk war to defend slavery?

probably some truth to that

regan tried to be tough on the border but the price of food went up due to the lack of labour and he had to ease up.

i dont think trump will deport hardly anyone

he doesnt need to for the border issue to play well for him

biden and harris let them in

he gets the benefit of cheap labor and the political benefit as well

building the wall is symbolic and a good meme for trump

yet again the left dont understand real cultural conditioning



trump may have read "crossing the chasm" a great book by geoffry moore that explains that explains group dynamics

initially a MAGA hat may be seen like some new technology and derided

but once you get enough adopters, people fear being laggards and left behind
frank posted a cool clip yesterday of footballers doing the trump dance, black garbage collectors doing the trump dance, women in offices and on the beach doing the trump dance

a lot of women wore maga caps to vote

once you get the right side of the chasm, you break the cultural norms

trump is now like the iphone

people have FOMO if they arent getting onboard


meme before message

energy before policy  ;)

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 12:32pm:

regan tried to be tough on the border but the price of food went up due to the lack of labour and he had to ease up. i dont think trump will deport hardly anyone

Of course Trump will do as little as he can on the border issue - no president has any incentive to slow down illegal immigration where those immigrants work long hours for almost nothing without any government support costs overheads to keep inflation figures low.

The old Barry Humpries quip. 'Illegal immigration... Democracy's answer to slavery' is funny 'cos it's true.

How many people protest or refuse to buy cheap Chinese-made goods because they are built by people living and working in slave-like conditions?

What does anyone think Xi and Newsom were discussing in California? Chinese labour is no longer so cheap... What's to be done when California has gotten used to cheap Chinese-made goods, adding value to them, and then on-selling them to other states?

'They're eating the dogs', eh!

They're propping up a nation that no longer produces enough of its own workers to keep the economy afloat, not that Appalachian dumbcunts can think beyond cutting a turd.

How many affluent or aspirational people, in the US or anywhere, hope that their children (if they even have any) hope their kids grow up to toil in factories and fields for 12 hours a day for almost nothing?

So who picks the cotton?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 12:58pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 12:32pm: regan tried to be tough on the border but the price of food went up due to the lack of labour and he had to ease up. i dont think trump will deport hardly anyone Of course Trump will do as little as he can on the border issue - no president has any incentive to slow down illegal immigration where those immigrants work long hours for almost nothing without any government support costs overheads to keep inflation figures low. The old Barry Humpries quip. 'Illegal immigration... Democracy's answer to slavery' is funny 'cos it's true. How many people protest or refuse to buy cheap Chinese-made goods because they are built by people living and working in slave-like conditions? What does anyone think Xi and Newsom were discussing in California? Chinese labour is no longer so cheap... What's to be done when California has gotten used to cheap Chinese-made goods, adding value to them, and then on-selling them to other states? 'They're eating the dogs', eh! They're propping up a nation that no longer produces enough of its own workers to keep the economy afloat, not that Appalachian dumbcunts can think beyond cutting a turd.

it also shold have been painfully obvious to the left that latino men already in the USA legally are going to resent more "competition" for their jobs being escorted in by biden harris.

its why latino men voted in the majority for trump

now democrat governors have formed a coalition saying they wont let "their people " be deported.

not realising legal latinos want them gone

so trump can, once agin, lay the blame squarely at the feet of the democrats, and still keep his cheap labor force.

its probably why peurto ricans inceased support for trump by 26 % despite the garbage island joke.
they are already in the USA (the ones who vote) and they like his tough talk .

why are the left so disconnected from 'real" america

Bobby. wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 12:04pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:51am: Bobby. wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:10am: Mothra, you should be thanking all those who supported Trump as at least we have a better chance of surviving now. Trump is searching for peace not WW3 with nuclear weapons. Biden and Putin both want to risk WW3 over 4 little provinces in Ukraine that no one had heard of 3 years ago. If Trump bends the knee to Putin and lets Ukraine fall, strengthening Russia, is that a good outcome do you think Bobbi? If not, how else is he going to resolve that conflict, there by ensuring that won't be a trigger for a world war, on day one? Let's not speculate.

Then goes on to speculate...


Quote:

Putin might shake in his boots when he has Trump to deal with instead of sleepy Joe.

And by the way, I wasn't speculating, I was asking you a question on your opinion on Trump letting Russia have Ukraine, is that good or bad?

It’s an “Emperor’s New Clothes” event for America and perhaps for the rest of the West too, an overdue recognition and repudiation of the regime of oppressive insanities we have been subjected to for a decade or more.

The fancy new items of invisible attire that our nation’s rulers have made us wear for too long include these:

The idea that people who have stolen into this country illegally should be showered with all the rights and benefits of citizens, that it is immoral to deny them those rights, and that they should instead be treated as victims of persecution and given “sanctuary” in our crowded and fiscally strained cities.

The idea that a nation that sits atop one of the greatest reservoirs of natural energy resources on Earth should forcibly restrain itself from exploiting them to “save the planet” on the basis of politicised science, while other countries are free to do much more damage to the global environment.

The idea that after a century and a half of progress in expiating America’s original sin of racism and making the country more equal, we are suddenly obliged to believe that America is as oppressive as it was in 1619, and that the best way to right the past wrong of treating people based on the colour of their skin is to treat people based on the colour of their skin.

The idea that children should, without parental consultation or consent, be free to choose their “gender,” be assisted by the state in committing acts of self-mutilation to do so, and all on the understanding that we have repealed millennia of science and just discovered that there is no such thing as biological sex.

The idea that democracy and freedom are best protected by denying people the right to express certain views that the authorities deem “misinformation” and by weaponising the law against political opponents lest they weaponise the law for political purposes.

Ambitious elites in business and civil society went along with the fictions. Politicians on all sides, including Republicans, declined to dissent for fear of being called out. It took a man with some of the instincts of a child, a political ingénue lacking the sophistication to participate in the sham, to call the whole thing out for what it was.

...

Here’s what I am optimistic about: Four years from now, there’s a good chance that the nonsense we have had to endure will be buried, that important things will have become normal again.

It will have become normal to tell people who have no right to be here that they must leave, and that in the process people around the world will have been made to understand that they don’t have an automatic right to live in the freest and most prosperous country on earth.

It will have become normal for the nation to exploit its enormous energy advantages for its own economic benefit and know that the planet won’t explode as a result.

It will have become normal again for children to be helped to respond to the inevitable strains and traumas of growing up not by having their genitals cut out, but by receiving loving guidance and care from family and society;

that people will be judged on the basis of their talents and ability, not on their claims of oppression by ancestors six generations in the past, and it will not be automatically assumed that because you are white you should be punished for your supposed persecution of others.

It will have become normal to be able to say what you think — on university campuses, in the media, on technology platforms — however unpalatable some people may find it.

And that, to my mind, is progress.

Gerard Baker in The Wall St Journal


Amen to that.

Frank wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 2:15pm:

It’s an “Emperor’s New Clothes” event for America and perhaps for the rest of the West too, an overdue recognition and repudiation of the regime of oppressive insanities we have been subjected to for a decade or more. The fancy new items of invisible attire that our nation’s rulers have made us wear for too long include these: The idea that people who have stolen into this country illegally should be showered with all the rights and benefits of citizens, that it is immoral to deny them those rights, and that they should instead be treated as victims of persecution and given “sanctuary” in our crowded and fiscally strained cities. The idea that a nation that sits atop one of the greatest reservoirs of natural energy resources on Earth should forcibly restrain itself from exploiting them to “save the planet” on the basis of politicised science, while other countries are free to do much more damage to the global environment. The idea that after a century and a half of progress in expiating America’s original sin of racism and making the country more equal, we are suddenly obliged to believe that America is as oppressive as it was in 1619, and that the best way to right the past wrong of treating people based on the colour of their skin is to treat people based on the colour of their skin. The idea that children should, without parental consultation or consent, be free to choose their “gender,” be assisted by the state in committing acts of self-mutilation to do so, and all on the understanding that we have repealed millennia of science and just discovered that there is no such thing as biological sex. The idea that democracy and freedom are best protected by denying people the right to express certain views that the authorities deem “misinformation” and by weaponising the law against political opponents lest they weaponise the law for political purposes. Ambitious elites in business and civil society went along with the fictions. Politicians on all sides, including Republicans, declined to dissent for fear of being called out. It took a man with some of the instincts of a child, a political ingénue lacking the sophistication to participate in the sham, to call the whole thing out for what it was. ... Here’s what I am optimistic about: Four years from now, there’s a good chance that the nonsense we have had to endure will be buried, that important things will have become normal again. It will have become normal to tell people who have no right to be here that they must leave, and that in the process people around the world will have been made to understand that they don’t have an automatic right to live in the freest and most prosperous country on earth. It will have become normal for the nation to exploit its enormous energy advantages for its own economic benefit and know that the planet won’t explode as a result. It will have become normal again for children to be helped to respond to the inevitable strains and traumas of growing up not by having their genitals cut out, but by receiving loving guidance and care from family and society; that people will be judged on the basis of their talents and ability, not on their claims of oppression by ancestors six generations in the past, and it will not be automatically assumed that because you are white you should be punished for your supposed persecution of others. It will have become normal to be able to say what you think — on university campuses, in the media, on technology platforms — however unpalatable some people may find it. And that, to my mind, is progress. Gerard Baker in The Wall St Journal Amen to that.

Yep Trump has no clothes.

mothra wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 9:53am:

Frank wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 9:48am: mothra wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:51am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:46am: mothra wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:13am: ..........  Policies are not important to the weirdos that infest Ozpol any more than they are important to the MAGA crowd. They're all about culture wars and reserving the right to be a exclusionary and bigoted as they like. What gets me is the massive amounts of Americans who fell for Trump's overt lies. There's no denying the financial hardship in the US is a direct result of a post Covid world and wider international politics and that Biden has actually done remarkably well steering through it, leaving the next government in a surprisingly good position, considering ... but still, people fell for the lies. We shall see how Trump does. I for one am hoping for as little damage as possible. Americas in quite a good position economically Unemployment at 4.1, inflation about 2.3. It is a divided nation so bad in that aspect. trump has promised to gut the government and replace them with trump loyalists, stop medicare and cause accelerated climate damage, give tax cuts to billionaires, oppose unions, increase inflation. I am sure he will do that If you are poor or average in america now, tougher times are ahead of you I hope i'm wrong but i fear that the most disadvantaged Americans will be particularly vulnerable ... and with talk of massive government spending slashes, safety nets for the disadvantaged are always the first thing to go. World To End Tomorrow: Women, Minorities Hardest Hit I honestly don't know how to take that post. A frightening glimpse into Frank's diseased mind?

:D :D

It is an old piss-take on the po-faced NYT and Granuiad and their ilk that fence in your intellectual horizons.

the insanity could never have been ended from inside the establsihment
too many vested interests

too many ex generals making a fortune as defence contractors
too many ex FDA staff working for big pharma
too many civil servants on 200 k  working on the homelessness issues
too many doctors and psychologists on the anxious depressed confused malnourished hordes
too may lawyers at the southern poverty law centre
too many teachers getting applause for virtue signalling instead of teaching
too many grifters dividing people in identity politics

the grift is over

trump, a sole private citizen has ended it

alone, with no support from establsihed political interests

despite the lawfare
despite the mainstream media
despite the intelligence agencies
despite big tech
despite assassination attempts

ended the madness

there should be no coming back for leftie lunacy now
the veil has been lifted

they are going to have to get with the program, work hard , drop the fake personas and contribute to society or they can just be ignored and perish .

they either join the winning team or they can piss off to canada

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 1:14pm:

so trump can, once agin, lay the blame squarely at the feet of the democrats, and still keep his cheap labor force.

So, he'll be doing no different, then... Not so much MAGA as KATS - Keep America the same.

Everybody knows that they love their slavery... it's admitting it they hate.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 2:30pm:

the insanity could never have been ended from inside the establsihment too many vested interests too many ex generals making a fortune as defence contractors too many ex FDA staff working for big pharma too many civil servants on 200 k  working on the homelessness issues too many doctors and psychologists on the anxious depressed confused malnourished hordes too may lawyers at the southern poverty law centre too many teachers getting applause for virtue signalling instead of teaching too many grifters dividing people in identity politics the grift is over trump, a sole private citizen has ended it alone, with no support from establsihed political interests

This is a political forum, not a Hollywood utopia movie.

The faces change, not the grifting.

One look at the 'new media' podcasters and you're looking into the eyes and souls of a bigger bunch of new grifters you won't find anywhere else in one place.

Rogan sucked cock and blew smoke for 3 hours with Trump... Didn't challenge him on even his craziest bullshit... Not a word on dog eating; didn't press him on the 2020 election, but joined in with Trump on his tirade about Harris and Walz lies.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 2:55pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 1:14pm: so trump can, once agin, lay the blame squarely at the feet of the democrats, and still keep his cheap labor force. So, he'll be doing no different, then... Not so much MAGA as KATS - Keep America the same. Everybody knows that they love their slavery... it's admitting it they hate.

oh he'll talk tough

but why do anything?

the left will cop the blame

if an illegal rapes another riley lakin  then the left get the blame, not trump

the border is the gift that keeps giving

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 3:03pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 2:30pm: the insanity could never have been ended from inside the establsihment too many vested interests too many ex generals making a fortune as defence contractors too many ex FDA staff working for big pharma too many civil servants on 200 k  working on the homelessness issues too many doctors and psychologists on the anxious depressed confused malnourished hordes too may lawyers at the southern poverty law centre too many teachers getting applause for virtue signalling instead of teaching too many grifters dividing people in identity politics the grift is over trump, a sole private citizen has ended it alone, with no support from establsihed political interests This is a political forum, not a Hollywood utopia movie. The faces change, not the grifting. One look at the 'new media' podcasters and you're looking into the eyes and souls of a bigger bunch of new grifters you won't find anywhere else in one place. Rogan sucked cock and blew smoke for 3 hours with Trump... Didn't challenge him on even his craziest bullshit... Not a word on dog eating; didn't press him on the 2020 election, but joined in with Trump on his tirade about Harris and Walz lies.

not so sure

a lot of people on the left THINK getting loads of cash makes you happy

of course it doesnt

i think the left think everything is motivated by cash because they live in cash scarcity

once you are around a lot of rich people and see how miserable they are, yelling at their spouse, kids who hate them, you arent motivated by it anymore

to say trump is motivated by money is thinking about 10 paradigms below what motivates him

same goes for gates, zuck, bezos, musk.

they could have cashed out 50 mill decades ago and gone and sat by the pool.

same goes for most rich people

if trump just became a nobody rich guy playing golf who used to be a "someone" , he would get so low, he'd slash his wrists

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 3:28pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 2:55pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 1:14pm: so trump can, once agin, lay the blame squarely at the feet of the democrats, and still keep his cheap labor force. So, he'll be doing no different, then... Not so much MAGA as KATS - Keep America the same. Everybody knows that they love their slavery... it's admitting it they hate. oh he'll talk tough but why do anything? the left will cop the blame if an illegal rapes another riley lakin  then the left get the blame, not trump the border is the gift that keeps giving

So he's all bullshit, then.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 3:34pm:

if trump just became a nobody rich guy playing golf who used to be a "someone" , he would get so low, he'd slash his wrists

So you're telling me there's hope!

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 3:36pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:34pm: if trump just became a nobody rich guy playing golf who used to be a "someone" , he would get so low, he'd slash his wrists So you're telling me there's hope!

Here's hoping. :)

However, if I have to read too many more of aquascoot's word salads today I might have to think about slashing my own wrists.  ::)

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 3:36pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:34pm: if trump just became a nobody rich guy playing golf who used to be a "someone" , he would get so low, he'd slash his wrists So you're telling me there's hope!

Hundreds of millions of people have their fingers crossed.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 3:35pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:28pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 2:55pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 1:14pm: so trump can, once agin, lay the blame squarely at the feet of the democrats, and still keep his cheap labor force. So, he'll be doing no different, then... Not so much MAGA as KATS - Keep America the same. Everybody knows that they love their slavery... it's admitting it they hate. oh he'll talk tough but why do anything? the left will cop the blame if an illegal rapes another riley lakin  then the left get the blame, not trump the border is the gift that keeps giving So he's all bullshit, then.

jesus christ man


trump is a salesman

he is the best salesman i have ever seen

and he is selling to willing customers who want to kill leftie woke ideology

he identified a market and tapped into it

but dont think trump lies in bed at night worrying  about the chodes who vote for him!!

(not that any of the others in politics do ::)).

Trump sees his customers the way maccas see their customers  or netflix see their customers

does the CEO of maccas lie in bed at night worrying about nutrition ?

they are selling to a willing customer

no moral judgement

just the reality

if the customer is harmed , well he is an "entity with agency" who got what he asked for



if you worked in business and studied dan kennedy, you would know this

the customer is like an animal. the customer is deeply flawed, stuck in the cultural hypnosis, driven by ego and biological drives.  putty in the hands of someone who understands him much better then he understands himself

as a businessman you cant change him

he doesnt want to change !!!!

he loves his pain and he is addicted to his anger or his victim status

if you try to change him he will turn on you

now i find it disgusting but thats the reality

trump as a guy with world class powers of persuasion, saw a market opportunity and pounced

kudos

he is winning the game by the rules of the game itself

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 3:45pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:36pm: [quote author=aquascoot link=1731956731/53#53 date=1731994445] if trump just became a nobody rich guy playing golf who used to be a "someone" , he would get so low, he'd slash his wrists So you're telling me there's hope!

Hundreds of millions of people have their fingers crossed.

None more so than a certain Slovenian hooker.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 3:48pm:

trump is a salesman he is the best salesman i have ever seen

So he's the biggest bullshitter you've ever seen, then.

Would you sell your produce to your local market using the same style of bullshit?

Just a lick of paint and sell it as a new one?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 4:00pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:48pm: trump is a salesman he is the best salesman i have ever seen So he's the biggest bullshitter you've ever seen, then. Would you sell your produce to your local market using the same style of bullshit? Just a lick of paint and sell it as a new one?

you miss the point

he's not a bullshitter so much as a business guy who saw an opportunity

people hated walking

henry ford saw a market for the automobile

was he a bullshitter?

people hated added up numbers

texas instruments saw an opportunity and marketed the calculator

people hated boring water

coca cola saw an opportunity and marketed coca cola

and on and on


now you could try and market green vegetable juice and it would be better for the animalistic masses then coke ,  but you'd go broke

is it cokes fault the masses want their product?
are they full of poo?

trump in about 2015 saw a growing appetite for "stopping the excesses of leftie nonsense"
he saw disaffected customers being ignored in the flyover states
he saw people who really hated washington
he saw people who hated the mainstream media

he saw "untapped market potential'

thats not bullshit

thats knowing the market
thats understanding your customer

is it trumps fault these customers existed?


i say no

that is the definition of the game of politics

give the customer what he wants

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 4:13pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:00pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:48pm: trump is a salesman he is the best salesman i have ever seen So he's the biggest bullshitter you've ever seen, then. Would you sell your produce to your local market using the same style of bullshit? Just a lick of paint and sell it as a new one? you miss the point he's not a bullshitter so much as a business guy who saw an opportunity

He is entirely a bullshitter...

He makes poo up as he goes and in his business life, would sue people into silence.

In politics, his lies are official record.

He's going to build a wall on the southern border and make Mexico pay for it...

I mean, do we really need to list the bullshit he's made up on the spot?

What about cutting corporate and higher tax brackets, and making China pay for it via tariffs....

It's all bullshit.

That's not good business, that's good sales.  But when you keep making promises you can't deliver on, your businesses fail.

Oh, wait, that's exactly what happens to Trump, when he can't litigate his way out of trouble.

It's not good business, he's not a good business man, he's a bullshiter who operates outside of the law and exploits all those he works with and doesn't pay his bills.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 4:22pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:13pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:00pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:48pm: trump is a salesman he is the best salesman i have ever seen So he's the biggest bullshitter you've ever seen, then. Would you sell your produce to your local market using the same style of bullshit? Just a lick of paint and sell it as a new one? you miss the point he's not a bullshitter so much as a business guy who saw an opportunity He is entirely a bullshitter... He makes poo up as he goes and in his business life, would sue people into silence. In politics, his lies are official record. He's going to build a wall on the southern border and make Mexico pay for it... I mean, do we really need to list the bullshit he's made up on the spot? What about cutting corporate and higher tax brackets, and making China pay for it via tariffs.... It's all bullshit. That's not good business, that's good sales.  But when you keep making promises you can't deliver on, your businesses fail. Oh, wait, that's exactly what happens to Trump, when he can't litigate his way out of trouble. It's not good business, he's not a good business man, he's a bullshiter who operates outside of the law and exploits all those he works with and doesn't pay his bills.

So the people who elected Slick Willy twice, Dubya twice, Obama twice and Biden once ( :P) have been taken in by total b.s. AGAIN!!!


Oy gevalt! When will it end!?!?

Frank wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 4:26pm:

So the people who elected Slick Willy twice, Dubya twice, Obama twice and Biden once ( :P) have been taken in by total b.s. AGAIN!!! Oy gevalt! When will it end!?!?

They did, and when his bullshit comes to light, AGAIN, if the people aren't just in it for the lulz and care about the country even a little, they'll punish Trump and the Republican party at the mid terms.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 4:13pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:00pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:48pm: trump is a salesman he is the best salesman i have ever seen So he's the biggest bullshitter you've ever seen, then. Would you sell your produce to your local market using the same style of bullshit? Just a lick of paint and sell it as a new one? you miss the point he's not a bullshitter so much as a business guy who saw an opportunity

Smarter guys than you walked down that road to moral and ethical hell...

Like Tony Schwartz, the ghostwriter of 'The Art of the Deal' when he framed Trump's bullshit as 'truthful hyperbole'.

He paid the price when he was shunned by his friends as a fraud.

He came to regret writing 'The Art of the Deal', saying he 'put lipstick on a pig'.

Got a porker you'd like to f~ck in the back paddock of that farm of yours? Smear a bit of the wife's lippy on it... And Bob's your... whatever Bob is these days.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 4:33pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:26pm: So the people who elected Slick Willy twice, Dubya twice, Obama twice and Biden once ( :P) have been taken in by total b.s. AGAIN!!! Oy gevalt! When will it end!?!? They did, and when his bullshit comes to light, AGAIN, if the people aren't just in it for the lulz and care about the country even a little, they'll punish Trump and the Republican party at the mid terms.

Comes to light???   ;D ;D ;D :D :D

The Dems and Big Media have been saying it for 8+ years!! They impeached him, sued him, smeared him, rubbished him for 8 years! What do you think is still hidden from  and unknown to the Dems, the media and the electorate?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 4:43pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:13pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:00pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:48pm: trump is a salesman he is the best salesman i have ever seen So he's the biggest bullshitter you've ever seen, then. Would you sell your produce to your local market using the same style of bullshit? Just a lick of paint and sell it as a new one? you miss the point he's not a bullshitter so much as a business guy who saw an opportunity Smarter guys than you walked down that road to moral and ethical hell... Like Tony Schwartz, the ghostwriter of 'The Art of the Deal' when he framed Trump's bullshit as 'truthful hyperbole'. He paid the price when he was shunned by his friends as a fraud. He came to regret writing 'The Art of the Deal', saying he 'put lipstick on a pig'. Got a porker you'd like to f~ck in the back paddock of that farm of yours? Smear a bit of the wife's lippy on it... And Bob's your... whatever Bob is these days.

hey dude

i market the green vegetable juice
the grass fed beef
the aspirational self help
the nuanced products

because i recognised very early rich people dont own possessions, their possessions own them

but skippy says trump is not a good businessman , he's a good salesman

i know the difference

the unthinking masses (95% of the population ) think sales IS business.

is that trumps fault?
maybe the masses need to ascend the narrow road to success and learn a thing or two  ;)

of course they wont because

they dont want to change

thats why they are SO easy to market to

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 5:14pm:

i market the green vegetable juice the grass fed beef the aspirational self help the nuanced products

So you market quality products you believe in, then... Not just stuff you might get away with if you pitch it right to chodes.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 5:19pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 5:14pm: i market the green vegetable juice the grass fed beef the aspirational self help the nuanced products So you market quality products you believe in, then... Not just stuff you might get away with if you pitch it right to chodes.

correct

but no politician can market niche products

you HAVE to be like maccas because the masses are beaten down .stuck in the cultural hypnosis .
they are driven by fear and outrage and anger and the other emotions they are addicted to

you cant reach them with an aspirational message

i like kamalas message

JOY

but that aint where the people are at.


its why i didnt mind the woman.
but she is selling the green vegetable juice and trump is selling the super stimulating, super entertaining , let the good times role, coca cola.

and she got the nuanced vote

you have to understand your market

getting out of leftie echo chambers would have helped her

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 5:47pm:

trump is selling the super stimulating, super entertaining , let the good times role, coca cola.

So, while you sell quality products you can be proud of, the guy who can peddle sh!t to the masses that causes diabetes and other systemic health issues is your kinda politician, then.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 6:14pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 5:47pm: trump is selling the super stimulating, super entertaining , let the good times role, coca cola. So, while you sell quality products you can be proud of, the guy who can peddle sh!t to the masses that causes diabetes and other systemic health issues is your kinda politician, then.

exactly

to me
winning is about many things after money
the guy with money might own a dozen houses
he goes away on holiday and his tenants call because the roof is leaking and he spends his holiday emailing repairmen
i see it happen
the possessions "own' them

i like very simple things and could never spend what i earn


so i consider myself winning in life because my businesses and my families businesses provide real quality services to people  amd people just literally give you cash and its embarrassing how much the law of attraction and the halo effect work for you when you arent a needy little taker


now in the field of politics
winning is about selling what the masses want to buy
it is a popularity contest
this is surely definitional
so i like my politicians to play the game they signed up to play
win the popularity contest
and trump is the GOAT so i admire the way he plays the game the way i admire the way jordan plays basketball or Brady plays NFL .
politics is nothing more then a game in my eyes
about as important as basketball or the NFL

people will have rich meaningful lives based on the ammount of "personal resonsibility" and "agency" they are willing to take for themselves

the idea that the quality and trajectory of your life is somehow the responsibility of a politician is a poisonous concept to me
and anyone who wants a father or mother figure to solve their problems for them is beneath contempt.
if you want to remain a perpetual infant and have a daddy figure to guide you, you are truly lost

its is very freudian, very dom/sub. very oedipal

we saw it with covid

do you know what i thought when i saw how the population submitted to the authority figures over a runny nose?

i thought they were the ultimate subs

"govern me harder daddy, govern me harder"

thats how i pictured most of the population :)

no wonder its so easy to dominate them when they are eternal infants  :)

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 7:13pm:

now in the field of politics winning is about selling what the masses want to buy

So, if it sells, it's about bullshit all the way down, then.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 7:18pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:13pm: now in the field of politics winning is about selling what the masses want to buy So, if it sells, it's about bullshit all the way down, then.

dude

you do know what a democracy is ?

its a popularity contest where the contestants sell themselves

if not, how would YOU define it ?

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 7:25pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:18pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:13pm: now in the field of politics winning is about selling what the masses want to buy So, if it sells, it's about bullshit all the way down, then. dude you do know what a democracy is ? its a popularity contest where the contestants sell themselves if not, how would YOU define it ?

Then call a pig a pig.

Call bullshit for what it is...

Why call it masterful salesmanship or 'truthful hyperbole'?

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 7:25pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:18pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:13pm: now in the field of politics winning is about selling what the masses want to buy So, if it sells, it's about bullshit all the way down, then. dude you do know what a democracy is ? its a popularity contest where the contestants sell themselves

How did that go for the rapist in 2016 and 2020?

good grief son

when did i ever say the chodes in maga hats should look to trump to "save' them?

trump is gunna sack a lot of public servants (good),  stop sending young white patriotic men to the middle east to die (good) and stop paying for europes defence  (good).

but if you are a maga hat wearing chode , you better knuckle down and save yourself

if you were under the delusion trump was coming to make it all better and give you a cuddle, you are freaking deluded

is trump a pig

probably

its not like they dont all have their noses in the trough for something (in trumps case attention is his currency)

at least trump knows who he is

kudos

much to learn from trump including never ever ever stop portraying to people that you believe in yourself

have delusional self belief

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 7:46pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:25pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:18pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:13pm: now in the field of politics winning is about selling what the masses want to buy So, if it sells, it's about bullshit all the way down, then. dude you do know what a democracy is ? its a popularity contest where the contestants sell themselves How did that go for the rapist in 2016 and 2020?

amazing int it

as the electorate got to know him over time he became more popular

thats a rarity

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 7:47pm:

good grief son when did i ever say the chodes in maga hats should look to trump to "save' them? trump is gunna sack a lot of public servants (good),  stop sending young white patriotic men to the middle east to die (good) and stop paying for europes defence  (good). but if you are a maga hat wearing chode , you better knuckle down and save yourself if you were under the delusion trump was coming to make it all better and give you a cuddle, you are freaking deluded is trump a pig probably its not like they dont all have their noses in the trough for something (in trumps case attention is his currency) at least trump knows who he is kudos much to learn from trump including never ever ever stop portraying to people that you believe in yourself have delusional self belief

Well, firstly, I'm not your son.

The idea that the American chodes may have been cheated, if their democratic choice doesn't work out for them, is a line (dare I raise it) from what Gebbels said about the German people when they realised by 1944 that their choice of leader has led to their neck being wrung like a chicken.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 7:57pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:47pm: good grief son when did i ever say the chodes in maga hats should look to trump to "save' them? trump is gunna sack a lot of public servants (good),  stop sending young white patriotic men to the middle east to die (good) and stop paying for europes defence  (good). but if you are a maga hat wearing chode , you better knuckle down and save yourself if you were under the delusion trump was coming to make it all better and give you a cuddle, you are freaking deluded is trump a pig probably its not like they dont all have their noses in the trough for something (in trumps case attention is his currency) at least trump knows who he is kudos much to learn from trump including never ever ever stop portraying to people that you believe in yourself have delusional self belief Well, firstly, I'm not your son. The idea that the American chodes may have been cheated, if their democratic choice doesn't work out for them, is a line (dare I raise it) from what Gebbels said about the German people when they realised by 1944 that their choice of leader has led to their neck being wrung like a chicken.

yep

they (the germans)  should have taken personal responsibility  and personal agency
they shouldnt have brought into the group think
they shouldnt have succumbed to the cultural hypnosis
they should have weaned themselves off the authority figure and stopped looking to that authority figure to solve their problems

so much to study

is trump hitler

surely you jest

hitler wanted to control and rule and expand and look outwards and have a big germany .

trump wants to play golf, be amusing, let others rule , have  a small america and go back to the 80s and family values

they could not be more different

one had small man syndrome and a victim mentality and a scarcity mentality

the other is a legend in his own mind, thinks he is awesome and just likes to riff  :)

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 8:18pm:

they (the germans)  should have taken personal responsibility  and personal agency they shouldnt have brought into the group think they shouldnt have succumbed to the cultural hypnosis they should have weaned themselves off the authority figure and stopped looking to that authority figure to solve their problems so much to study is trump hitler surely you jest hitler wanted to control and rule and expand and look outwards and have a big germany . trump wants to play golf, be amusing, let others rule , have  a small america and go back to the 80s and family values they could not be more different one had small man syndrome and a victim mentality and a scarcity mentality the other is a legend in his own mind, thinks he is awesome and just likes to riff

Couldda, wouldda, shouldda...

Yanks don't think beyond the major stereotypes - like Hitler, Stalin and Mao.

But there are dozens of alternatives.

Trump's probably more like Ferdinand Marcos, with Melania more like Imelda.

Groupthink is instinctive with social animals and almost impossible to break free from. It's why successful non-group thinkers are so rare and, successful ones, are remembered so well by history.

The ones who think beyond themselves - for others - are remembered kindly, while the ones who think only of themselves are remembered as antiheroes to be despised.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 8:18pm:

trump wants to play golf, be amusing, let others rule , have  a small america and go back to the 80s and family values

Raping women in department store change rooms and screwing porn stars in hotel rooms while the wife is back home with a newborn baby - those sort of family values?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 8:37pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:18pm: they (the germans)  should have taken personal responsibility  and personal agency they shouldnt have brought into the group think they shouldnt have succumbed to the cultural hypnosis they should have weaned themselves off the authority figure and stopped looking to that authority figure to solve their problems so much to study is trump hitler surely you jest hitler wanted to control and rule and expand and look outwards and have a big germany . trump wants to play golf, be amusing, let others rule , have  a small america and go back to the 80s and family values they could not be more different one had small man syndrome and a victim mentality and a scarcity mentality the other is a legend in his own mind, thinks he is awesome and just likes to riff  Couldda, wouldda, shouldda... Yanks don't think beyond the major stereotypes - like Hitler, Stalin and Mao. But there are dozens of alternatives. Trump's probably more like Ferdinand Marcos, with Melania more like Imelda. Groupthink is instinctive with social animals and almost impossible to break free from. It's why successful non-group thinkers are so rare and, successful ones, are remembered so well by history. The ones who think beyond themselves - for others - are remembered kindly, while the ones who think only of themselves are remembered as antiheroes to be despised.

What a laughable, Bbwianesque load of pseodo-profound crap. You are a laughable poseur like Bbwian.

You say, moronically, that 'yanks don't think  beyond major stereotypes' - thereby stereotyping like billy-o! 


Are you a predicrable groupthink social animal or are you a 'non-group thinker' ( with added pig fancying libido), Meister Icky, spiritual mystic? 

Frank wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 9:09pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:37pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:18pm: they (the germans)  should have taken personal responsibility  and personal agency they shouldnt have brought into the group think they shouldnt have succumbed to the cultural hypnosis they should have weaned themselves off the authority figure and stopped looking to that authority figure to solve their problems so much to study is trump hitler surely you jest hitler wanted to control and rule and expand and look outwards and have a big germany . trump wants to play golf, be amusing, let others rule , have  a small america and go back to the 80s and family values they could not be more different one had small man syndrome and a victim mentality and a scarcity mentality the other is a legend in his own mind, thinks he is awesome and just likes to riff  Couldda, wouldda, shouldda... Yanks don't think beyond the major stereotypes - like Hitler, Stalin and Mao. But there are dozens of alternatives. Trump's probably more like Ferdinand Marcos, with Melania more like Imelda. Groupthink is instinctive with social animals and almost impossible to break free from. It's why successful non-group thinkers are so rare and, successful ones, are remembered so well by history. The ones who think beyond themselves - for others - are remembered kindly, while the ones who think only of themselves are remembered as antiheroes to be despised. What a laughable, Bbwianesque load of pseodo-profound crap. You are a laughable poseur like Bbwian. You say, moronically, that 'yanks don't think  beyond major stereotypes' - thereby stereotyping like billy-o!  Are you a predicrable groupthink social animal or are you a 'non-group thinker' ( with added pig fancying libido), Meister Icky, spiritual mystic?

Stick to hole-poling like your dad.

And stay at least 100 metres from schools.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 9:16pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 9:09pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:37pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:18pm: they (the germans)  should have taken personal responsibility  and personal agency they shouldnt have brought into the group think they shouldnt have succumbed to the cultural hypnosis they should have weaned themselves off the authority figure and stopped looking to that authority figure to solve their problems so much to study is trump hitler surely you jest hitler wanted to control and rule and expand and look outwards and have a big germany . trump wants to play golf, be amusing, let others rule , have  a small america and go back to the 80s and family values they could not be more different one had small man syndrome and a victim mentality and a scarcity mentality the other is a legend in his own mind, thinks he is awesome and just likes to riff  Couldda, wouldda, shouldda... Yanks don't think beyond the major stereotypes - like Hitler, Stalin and Mao. But there are dozens of alternatives. Trump's probably more like Ferdinand Marcos, with Melania more like Imelda. Groupthink is instinctive with social animals and almost impossible to break free from. It's why successful non-group thinkers are so rare and, successful ones, are remembered so well by history. The ones who think beyond themselves - for others - are remembered kindly, while the ones who think only of themselves are remembered as antiheroes to be despised. What a laughable, Bbwianesque load of pseodo-profound crap. You are a laughable poseur like Bbwian. You say, moronically, that 'yanks don't think  beyond major stereotypes' - thereby stereotyping like billy-o!  Are you a predicrable groupthink social animal or are you a 'non-group thinker' ( with added pig fancying libido), Meister Icky, spiritual mystic?  Stick to hole-poling like your dad. And stay at least 100 metres from schools.

What a laughable, Bbwianesque load of jejune crap. You are a laughable poseur like Bbwian.

You say, moronically, that 'yanks don't think  beyond major stereotypes' - thereby stereotyping like billy-o! Are you a predicrable groupthink social animal or are you a 'non-group thinker' ( with added pig fancying libido), Meister Icky, spiritual mystic? 

No, you are just a stunted little pseud, brimming with barely contained sexual perversions, fancying pigs with lippy and a matching school yard wit. 
A pompous, highfaluting little gremlin who turns a snarly, perverse gutter-snipe when you are questioned, let alone disagreed with.

Frank wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 9:33pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 9:16pm: Frank wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 9:09pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:37pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:18pm: they (the germans)  should have taken personal responsibility  and personal agency they shouldnt have brought into the group think they shouldnt have succumbed to the cultural hypnosis they should have weaned themselves off the authority figure and stopped looking to that authority figure to solve their problems so much to study is trump hitler surely you jest hitler wanted to control and rule and expand and look outwards and have a big germany . trump wants to play golf, be amusing, let others rule , have  a small america and go back to the 80s and family values they could not be more different one had small man syndrome and a victim mentality and a scarcity mentality the other is a legend in his own mind, thinks he is awesome and just likes to riff  Couldda, wouldda, shouldda... Yanks don't think beyond the major stereotypes - like Hitler, Stalin and Mao. But there are dozens of alternatives. Trump's probably more like Ferdinand Marcos, with Melania more like Imelda. Groupthink is instinctive with social animals and almost impossible to break free from. It's why successful non-group thinkers are so rare and, successful ones, are remembered so well by history. The ones who think beyond themselves - for others - are remembered kindly, while the ones who think only of themselves are remembered as antiheroes to be despised. What a laughable, Bbwianesque load of pseodo-profound crap. You are a laughable poseur like Bbwian. You say, moronically, that 'yanks don't think  beyond major stereotypes' - thereby stereotyping like billy-o!  Are you a predicrable groupthink social animal or are you a 'non-group thinker' ( with added pig fancying libido), Meister Icky, spiritual mystic?  Stick to hole-poling like your dad. And stay at least 100 metres from schools. What a laughable, Bbwianesque load of jejune crap. You are a laughable poseur like Bbwian. You say, moronically, that 'yanks don't think  beyond major stereotypes' - thereby stereotyping like billy-o! Are you a predicrable groupthink social animal or are you a 'non-group thinker' ( with added pig fancying libido), Meister Icky, spiritual mystic?  No, you are just a stunted little pseud, brimming with barely contained sexual perversions, fancying pigs with lippy and a matching school yard wit.  A pompous, highfaluting little gremlin who turns a snarly, perverse gutter-snipe when you are questioned, let alone disagreed with.

Are you a defrocked Lutheran minister?

Hmm, define powerful.
Roosevelt was pretty powerful wasn't he?
Washington?
JFK?
Is he really in that league you think?

goosecat wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 10:03pm:

Hmm, define powerful. Roosevelt was pretty powerful wasn't he? Washington? JFK? Is he really in that league you think?

No. Although FDR and Reagan both reshaped their respective parties in their own image.

MAGA was a Reagan slogan 'Let's make America Great Again'.

FDR steered the Democrats to where they went until recently.

JFK tried to do what Trump is doing... His and his brother's thing was to break the power of the intelligence agencies... Didn't end well for them.

Washington was revered like a demigod and respected even by George III, not least for the fact that he voluntarily gave up power.

Yeah I think FDR won like almost 100% of the vote as well having all 3 arms of government under his control.
Not to mention a small little thing like basically winning a world war.
There's levels and then there's levels lol

goosecat wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 10:03pm:

Hmm, define powerful. Roosevelt was pretty powerful wasn't he? Washington? JFK? Is he really in that league you think?

yes, I do.

adding to that he is a sociopathic narcissistic criminal

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 7:49pm:

amazing int it as the electorate got to know him over time he became more popular thats a rarity

Especially since you made it up. It was less a case of 'became more popular' then it was his opposition became less popular. Trump is proof that they could have had a drovers dog running and he would have won

John Smith wrote on Nov 20^th, 2024 at 7:49am:

It was less a case of 'became more popular' then it was his opposition became less popular. Trump is proof that they could have had a drovers dog running and he would have won

There's something in that.

The same point was made about the election of Obama in 2007,

After the disastrous years of George W Bush's administration, (where is he, anyway?), particularly after his second term, as someone quipped, 'The Democrats could have pulled a name out of the phone book and won the election'.

John Smith wrote on Nov 20^th, 2024 at 7:49am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:49pm: amazing int it as the electorate got to know him over time he became more popular thats a rarity Especially since you made it up. It was less a case of 'became more popular' then it was his opposition became less popular. Trump is proof that they could have had a drovers dog running and he would have won

So why did the Democrats pick Kackela against Trump if even a drover's dog would have defeated her? What was the thinking?


Is our children learning:
Kamala Harris leads her closest potential 2028 Democrat presidential contender by 33 points, according to polling from Echelon Insights.
https://x.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1858721532375171545




Sanity is trying to return?
Moulton said, “Well, obviously, we’ve lost touch with the majority of Americans. Democrats have a habit of preaching down to people and telling them that if they don’t 100% agree with our orthodox view, often defined by the far left, then they’re just bad people. They’re morally wrong. And that’s not going to win us any elections.”

Frank wrote on Nov 20^th, 2024 at 8:58am:

So why did the Democrats pick Kackela against Trump if even a drover's dog would have defeated her?

they thought it was a good idea ya dumbarse. Not because trump became popular like you keep pretending ;D

John Smith wrote on Nov 20^th, 2024 at 5:06pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 20th, 2024 at 8:58am: So why did the Democrats pick Kackela against Trump if even a drover's dog would have defeated her? they thought it was a good idea ya dumbarse. Not because trump became popular like you keep pretending ;D

;D ;D

Well, they proved to be as stupid as you, short planks.

Trump DID become popular, btw. Won everything.

Frank wrote on Nov 20^th, 2024 at 5:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2024 at 5:06pm: Frank wrote on Nov 20th, 2024 at 8:58am: So why did the Democrats pick Kackela against Trump if even a drover's dog would have defeated her? they thought it was a good idea ya dumbarse. Not because trump became popular like you keep pretending ;D ;D ;D Well, they proved to be as stupid as you, short planks. Trump DID become popular, btw. Won everything.

trump didn't become popular ya dumbarse, Kamala became unpopular .... there is a difference.

John Smith wrote on Nov 20^th, 2024 at 5:11pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 20th, 2024 at 5:09pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2024 at 5:06pm: Frank wrote on Nov 20th, 2024 at 8:58am: So why did the Democrats pick Kackela against Trump if even a drover's dog would have defeated her? they thought it was a good idea ya dumbarse. Not because trump became popular like you keep pretending ;D ;D ;D Well, they proved to be as stupid as you, short planks. Trump DID become popular, btw. Won everything. trump didn't become popular ya dumbarse, Kamala became unpopular .... there is a difference.

;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D

What an absolute idiot you are, short planks! Spectacular.

Voting is not mandatory in the US. People could stay home and not vote, you know, brain-dead little village idiot. That they went out by the tens of millions to vote for Trump means he was popular. Preferred. Preferable. Rated higher. Chosen.

Go sweep up.

Frank wrote on Nov 20^th, 2024 at 5:17pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2024 at 5:11pm: Frank wrote on Nov 20th, 2024 at 5:09pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2024 at 5:06pm: Frank wrote on Nov 20th, 2024 at 8:58am: So why did the Democrats pick Kackela against Trump if even a drover's dog would have defeated her? they thought it was a good idea ya dumbarse. Not because trump became popular like you keep pretending ;D ;D ;D Well, they proved to be as stupid as you, short planks. Trump DID become popular, btw. Won everything. trump didn't become popular ya dumbarse, Kamala became unpopular .... there is a difference. ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D What an absolute idiot you are, short planks! Spectacular. Voting is not mandatory in the US. People could stay home and not vote, you know, brain-dead little village idiot. That they went out by the tens of millions to vote for Trump means he was popular. Preferred. Preferable. Rated higher. Chosen. Go sweep up.

So, he wasn't popular in 2016 and 2020 then?

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20^th, 2024 at 6:16pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 20th, 2024 at 5:17pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2024 at 5:11pm: Frank wrote on Nov 20th, 2024 at 5:09pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2024 at 5:06pm: Frank wrote on Nov 20th, 2024 at 8:58am: So why did the Democrats pick Kackela against Trump if even a drover's dog would have defeated her? they thought it was a good idea ya dumbarse. Not because trump became popular like you keep pretending ;D ;D ;D Well, they proved to be as stupid as you, short planks. Trump DID become popular, btw. Won everything. trump didn't become popular ya dumbarse, Kamala became unpopular .... there is a difference. ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D What an absolute idiot you are, short planks! Spectacular. Voting is not mandatory in the US. People could stay home and not vote, you know, brain-dead little village idiot. That they went out by the tens of millions to vote for Trump means he was popular. Preferred. Preferable. Rated higher. Chosen. Go sweep up. So, he wasn't popular in 2016 and 2020 then?

that keyboard is copping a hiding tonight  ;D ;D

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Quote:

: Is Trump The Most Powerful POTUS of ALL TIME

Certainly the most embarrassing, most corrupt and biggest danger to the USA and the world.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 20^th, 2024 at 6:47pm:

Quote: : Is Trump The Most Powerful POTUS of ALL TIME Certainly the most embarrassing, most corrupt and biggest danger to the USA and the world.

And the most unpopular candidate in 2016 and 2020.

Oh, and he's a rapist.

US became great again in Trump's first term. Four years of greatness. Did anyone notice?