I know Joe Rogan is only a commentator and former fighter, but he's clearly had one too many blows to his thick, empty head. He seems to think that President Zelensky is pushing the world closer to World War III simply because he has the audacity to defend the sovereignty of his country from the invading Russian military under that dictator Putin, and that President Biden is also helping push us toward this calamity by providing Ukraine with the means to defend themselves. Sure, Rogan isn't the sharpest knife in the draw - we all knew this already, especially when he backed Trump. But he clearly is a smacking moron given his line of thinking here! Ukraine did not start a war with Russia, it was the other way around. Russia illegally annexed Crimea in 2014 and are now trying to take the entire country. Zelensky has every right to defend his country and his people from Putin, and Biden is absolutely doing the right thing by giving him the means to do so, as are a multitude of other western nations - including Australia. Rogan needs to stick to calling stupid, pointless UFC fights and leave foreign policy to the grown-ups.

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/joe-rogan-rants-against-biden-zelensky-for-trying-to-start-world-war-iii/news-story/1bf0866a98f600bddcffe4e2d8066527

You're right, he has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.

However, aquascoot will be along any minute now to tell us all that it doesn't matter how stupid Rogan is - the only thing that matters is how many people listen to his podcast.

::)

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 25^th, 2024 at 1:00pm:

I know Joe Rogan is only a commentator and former fighter, but he's clearly had one too many blows to his thick, empty head. He seems to think that President Zelensky is pushing the world closer to World War III simply because he has the audacity to defend the sovereignty of his country from the invading Russian military under that dictator Putin, and that President Biden is also helping push us toward this calamity by providing Ukraine with the means to defend themselves. Sure, Rogan isn't the sharpest knife in the draw - we all knew this already, especially when he backed Trump. But he clearly is a smacking moron given his line of thinking here! Ukraine did not start a war with Russia, it was the other way around. Russia illegally annexed Crimea in 2014 and are now trying to take the entire country. Zelensky has every right to defend his country and his people from Putin, and Biden is absolutely doing the right thing by giving him the means to do so, as are a multitude of other western nations - including Australia. Rogan needs to stick to calling stupid, pointless UFC fights and leave foreign policy to the grown-ups. https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/joe-rogan-rants-against-biden-zelensky-for-trying-to-start-world-war-iii/news-story/1bf0866a98f600bddcffe4e2d8066527

He actually blasted Sleepy Joe for authorising the use of American missiles into Russian territory even though he is only a caretaker prez.
Had Biden been serious, he would have authorised it 2 years ago. But the the US, the West and NATO in particular have not been serious about this entire war. 

We know what Putin wants - to incorporate Ukraine into Russia, Crimea first, then Donbas then the rest.

But what do the US and NATO want? What kind of Ukraine are they envisaging at the end of this war? The same corrupt, oligarch-controlled Ukraine as before the war? Or some sort of wonderful quazi-Finland or Sweden,  NATO member, democratic,  not corrupt, wonderfully cuddly??
What have all those Ukrainians died for? The oligarchs who control Ukraine and who are waiting it all out in Europe?

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 25^th, 2024 at 2:21pm:

You're right, he has absolutely no idea what he's talking about. However, aquascoot will be along any minute now to tell us all that it doesn't matter how stupid Rogan is - the only thing that matters is how many people listen to his podcast.

well, there is that!

But, hey, when you listen to Rogan you need to bear in mind it took him years to be reasoned out of the moon landing being faked...

Who believes that aliens exist and they're watching over us to make sure we don't go too far with technology and will step in before we do...

Whose best mate for over 30 years is Alex Jones, whom he believes has a psychic ability 'to know stuff', although he cut back on blowing smoke up Jones' arse over Jones' 'Sandy Hook was faked' scam.

Joe Rogan Says If Dragons Aren't Real Then What Was He Riding Through Hyperspace While Smoking Pot With The Machine Elves Last Night?

"You can't explain it, can you?" Joe Rogan asked, addressing his podcast audience. "This chick from the view — Joy Behar — is mocking me for believing in dragons. But if dragons aren't real, then how did I traverse hyperspace while smoking a joint with the machine elves last night? It could only have been possible with an interdimensional dragon."

Rogan, who had previously discussed his use of the psychedelic drug DMT while spending time immersed in a sensory deprivation chamber, assured the public that the event had actually taken place and could not possibly have been a hallucination.

"This was an interstellar dragon named Nimrod and I rode him through a wormhole," he explained. "It was a wild experience. This one was very real. Even the machine elves were freaked."

The former News Radio star explained that, despite popular belief, dragons don't breathe fire. They instead breathe god particles that influence a human's perception of space and time. "They're out there blowing holes in space and time with their breath and eating fractals," he said. "It's awesome. Craziest thing you'll ever see. So explain that, Joy."

At publishing time, Rogan had invited Joy Behar to be a guest on his podcast so they could debate dragons in person, but she politely declined.




Still, Rogan blasted Biden, not Zelensky. Although it would be good to know what sort of Ukraine Biden, Zelensky, NATO etc envision after the war.
We know what Putin wants (total takeover of Ukraine), we don't know what THE US, EU and NATO want.

Which really IS the question

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 25^th, 2024 at 2:21pm:

You're right, he has absolutely no idea what he's talking about. However, aquascoot will be along any minute now to tell us all that it doesn't matter how stupid Rogan is - the only thing that matters is how many people listen to his podcast. ::)

Just so. Joe might be a complete moron, but the platforms make it easy. All you have to do is count the numbers.

Do interviews about vaccines creating herd immunity and facilitating covid recovery, leading to inflation due to supply chain issues, people leaving their jobs and short labour supply...

Boring. A few hundred, tops.

Do interviews about vaccines killing off the population, a plot engineered by Fauci, Pfizer and Chi-na to replace the White Race with hordes of tinted immigrants and illegals, who come in to steal our jobs, eat our pets, destroy our cities and terrorize our populations...

Terrible! Ten million, maybe more.

Sheesh, if Alex Jones could do it, why not a punch-drunk cage fighter with a laptop in his garage?

It's not like you need office blocks full of studios, with mobile news crews, choppers, publicly listed share sales, corporate boards, ad revenue, sales teams, legal teams and paid cable subscribers, now is it?

The majority of Fox's audience tunes in for the primetime commentary, one or two guys in front of a camera. Tucker used to do it from home.

Rush Limbaugh discovered all this on the radio. You don't even need pictures. All you need is a deep voice, something to fear and someone to hate.

As Tucker found, you can get around the libel laws by just asking. Is it true that the shithole countries are emptying out their jails, mental hospitals and mental hospitals and sending them to America?

Mr Trump thinks it is. He's allowed to say that because he's a politician. The fake news let him get away with it because he won't answer their questions. The Republicans let him do it because Joe's audience liked the sound of it.

Joe kept on going because his audience numbers grew, and there you have it - a fully tuned, self-perpetuating echo-chamber, the medium and the message in SyNcHrOnIcItY.

None of these guys have to be Einstein, Greggery, they just have to keep talking. Elon pumps it all up by tweaking the algorithm.

Now, Aquascoot has been onto the game from day one. It's all about the farming. The SM, he upon the "narrow road", loves his Big Ag. Not only have we been planted, dear, we've been ploughed, seeded, fertilized and irrigated.

Ever get the feeling you've been farmed?

Karnal wrote on Nov 25^th, 2024 at 4:43pm:

Do interviews about vaccines killing off the population, a plot engineered by Fauci, Pfizer and Chi-na to replace the White Race with hordes of tinted immigrants and illegals, who come in to steal our jobs, eat our pets, destroy our cities and terrorize our populations... Terrible! Ten million, maybe more.

Yep! We're hot-wired to our amygdalas and the instinct for the disgust recoil.

When famous people swear off social media, they claim food tastes better!

and the mainstream media are bastions of truth ;D ;D ;D ;D

"weapons of mass destruction" ;D ;D ;D ;D

"biden is the sharpest he's ever been" ;D ;D ;D ;D

"mostly peaceful demonstrations" ;D ;D ;D ;D.

"the pandemic ends when we get enough jabs in arms" ;D ;D ;D ;D

"JD vance is weird"   (followed by 1000's of comments on how normal he was after appearing on theo von) ;D ;D ;D ;D

the game is up.

people trust podcasters and do not trust the mainstream

they have lost all trust :'( :'( :'(

by the way, JD Vance is a very very smart guy

have a listen to his interview

very switched on


and he has read 48 laws of power.

rule 18 " do not outshine the master"

this is why he has disappeared and let trump have all the attention

worth studying (and the left think trump has dumped him  ;D ;D ;D, he has shrewdly vacated the space)

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25^th, 2024 at 4:55pm:

people trust podcasters and do not trust the mainstream

Yep! The blind leading the stupid... Or worse, a social media influencer - a wannabe demagogue - doing the leading.

All mini quasi-holy rollers, L Ron Hubbards and Jim Jones's.

Works well till they're led off a cliff.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25^th, 2024 at 4:59pm:

by the way, JD Vance is a very very smart guy have a listen to his interview very switched on and he has read 48 laws of power. rule 18 " do not outshine the master" this is why he has disappeared and let trump have all the attention worth studying (and the left think trump has dumped him  ;D ;D ;D, he has shrewdly vacated the space)

Yep. He's the emperor-in-waiting.

Guess that's one thing he learned from his Appalachian roots - the capacity to endure suffering.

Frank wrote on Nov 25^th, 2024 at 3:50pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 1:00pm: I know Joe Rogan is only a commentator and former fighter, but he's clearly had one too many blows to his thick, empty head. He seems to think that President Zelensky is pushing the world closer to World War III simply because he has the audacity to defend the sovereignty of his country from the invading Russian military under that dictator Putin, and that President Biden is also helping push us toward this calamity by providing Ukraine with the means to defend themselves. Sure, Rogan isn't the sharpest knife in the draw - we all knew this already, especially when he backed Trump. But he clearly is a smacking moron given his line of thinking here! Ukraine did not start a war with Russia, it was the other way around. Russia illegally annexed Crimea in 2014 and are now trying to take the entire country. Zelensky has every right to defend his country and his people from Putin, and Biden is absolutely doing the right thing by giving him the means to do so, as are a multitude of other western nations - including Australia. Rogan needs to stick to calling stupid, pointless UFC fights and leave foreign policy to the grown-ups. https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/joe-rogan-rants-against-biden-zelensky-for-trying-to-start-world-war-iii/news-story/1bf0866a98f600bddcffe4e2d8066527 He actually blasted Sleepy Joe for authorising the use of American missiles into Russian territory even though he is only a caretaker prez. Had Biden been serious, he would have authorised it 2 years ago. But the the US, the West and NATO in particular have not been serious about this entire war.  We know what Putin wants - to incorporate Ukraine into Russia, Crimea first, then Donbas then the rest. But what do the US and NATO want? What kind of Ukraine are they envisaging at the end of this war? The same corrupt, oligarch-controlled Ukraine as before the war? Or some sort of wonderful quazi-Finland or Sweden,  NATO member, democratic,  not corrupt, wonderfully cuddly?? What have all those Ukrainians died for? The oligarchs who control Ukraine and who are waiting it all out in Europe?

Not sure where you cut this one from, dear boy. Caretaker president?

You were fine with your DL overturning the entire Constitution when he was caretaker. You were fine with the SCOTUS appointments, the executions, the find-him-more-votes phone calls, the Capitol walking tours, the lot.

Of course you'd defend a few long range missiles - if your DL did it.

Sleepy Joe authorized their use following the involvement of a foreign army, North Korea. He's defending Ukraine in the first place through the tri-lateral Budapest Memorandum. This agreement, signed in 1994 by the US, UK and Russia, prohibits attacks on Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine, in exchange for their (then) nuclear weapons.

Russia took the weapons, and Vlad is now threatening the rest of the world with them. I'd take a stab that North Korea is getting a little help with its own nuclear weapons program in exchange for its soldiers' lives. Give and take, innit. So?

Vlad broke the agreement. A few long range missiles is perfectly within the rules.

So no, dear, the jig's up. You gave up the use of all high moral terms like "caretaker government" when you backed your beloved DL. You gave up all claims to civilisation at all. You're now out and proud, a true card-carrying member of the Nationalsocialistiske Arbejderparti.

And that's okay. We always knew you liked Danish, dear boy. There's no need to pretend with us.

Own it.

Karnal wrote on Nov 25^th, 2024 at 5:16pm:

Sleepy Joe authorized their use following the involvement of a foreign army, North Korea.

Hilarious that the Kim family's overlords - Xi and the CCP - are playing like they're concerned that NK is aiding Russia with troops.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 25^th, 2024 at 5:01pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 4:55pm: people trust podcasters and do not trust the mainstream Yep! The blind leading the stupid... Or worse, a social media influencer - a wannabe demagogue - doing the leading. All mini quasi-holy rollers, L Ron Hubbards and Jim Jones's. Works well till they're led off a cliff.

they couldnt be worse then the mainstream media

and some of them (chris williamson, triggernometry, sam harris, andrew huberman, peter atia, diary of a CEO, tom bilyeu are incredibly balanced and great communicators).

you would learn a lot by listening to any of them

you learn zippo listening to mainstream

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25^th, 2024 at 5:25pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 5:01pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 4:55pm: people trust podcasters and do not trust the mainstream Yep! The blind leading the stupid... Or worse, a social media influencer - a wannabe demagogue - doing the leading. All mini quasi-holy rollers, L Ron Hubbards and Jim Jones's. Works well till they're led off a cliff. they couldnt be worse then the mainstream media and some of them (chris williamson, triggernometry, sam harris, andrew huberman, peter atia, diary of a CEO, tom bilyeu are incredibly balanced and great communicators). you would learn a lot by listening to any of them

So, like L Ron Hubbard in his day, then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mueSLbxFKQ

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25^th, 2024 at 4:59pm:

by the way, JD Vance is a very very smart guy have a listen to his interview very switched on and he has read 48 laws of power. rule 18 " do not outshine the master" this is why he has disappeared and let trump have all the attention worth studying (and the left think trump has dumped him  ;D ;D ;D, he has shrewdly vacated the space)

I see. Outshine the master, is it?

Joe's been complaining about the big fella for years. Never wanted him on his show because he didn't want to promote bullshit.

Now he's worth studying for abandoning his convictions in return for a few million clicks, is he?

Can you remind us what you just said about media lies and trust again, dear? It's in your post above. I believe you were getting at the issue of hypocrisy.

When you're done with that, can you explain why you've wiped your previous convictions too? The words bloated, obese, unfit to stand and Ron D for 2028 spring to mind.

Please explain?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 25^th, 2024 at 5:28pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 5:25pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 5:01pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 4:55pm: people trust podcasters and do not trust the mainstream Yep! The blind leading the stupid... Or worse, a social media influencer - a wannabe demagogue - doing the leading. All mini quasi-holy rollers, L Ron Hubbards and Jim Jones's. Works well till they're led off a cliff. they couldnt be worse then the mainstream media and some of them (chris williamson, triggernometry, sam harris, andrew huberman, peter atia, diary of a CEO, tom bilyeu are incredibly balanced and great communicators). you would learn a lot by listening to any of them So, like L Ron Hubbard in his day, then. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mueSLbxFKQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHcFpdKK5RY

this is not l ron hubbard

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25^th, 2024 at 5:35pm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHcFpdKK5RY this is not l ron hubbard

How can you be sure?

Karnal wrote on Nov 25^th, 2024 at 5:16pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 3:50pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 1:00pm: I know Joe Rogan is only a commentator and former fighter, but he's clearly had one too many blows to his thick, empty head. He seems to think that President Zelensky is pushing the world closer to World War III simply because he has the audacity to defend the sovereignty of his country from the invading Russian military under that dictator Putin, and that President Biden is also helping push us toward this calamity by providing Ukraine with the means to defend themselves. Sure, Rogan isn't the sharpest knife in the draw - we all knew this already, especially when he backed Trump. But he clearly is a smacking moron given his line of thinking here! Ukraine did not start a war with Russia, it was the other way around. Russia illegally annexed Crimea in 2014 and are now trying to take the entire country. Zelensky has every right to defend his country and his people from Putin, and Biden is absolutely doing the right thing by giving him the means to do so, as are a multitude of other western nations - including Australia. Rogan needs to stick to calling stupid, pointless UFC fights and leave foreign policy to the grown-ups. https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/joe-rogan-rants-against-biden-zelensky-for-trying-to-start-world-war-iii/news-story/1bf0866a98f600bddcffe4e2d8066527 He actually blasted Sleepy Joe for authorising the use of American missiles into Russian territory even though he is only a caretaker prez. Had Biden been serious, he would have authorised it 2 years ago. But the the US, the West and NATO in particular have not been serious about this entire war.  We know what Putin wants - to incorporate Ukraine into Russia, Crimea first, then Donbas then the rest. But what do the US and NATO want? What kind of Ukraine are they envisaging at the end of this war? The same corrupt, oligarch-controlled Ukraine as before the war? Or some sort of wonderful quazi-Finland or Sweden,  NATO member, democratic,  not corrupt, wonderfully cuddly?? What have all those Ukrainians died for? The oligarchs who control Ukraine and who are waiting it all out in Europe? Not sure where you cut this one from, dear boy. Caretaker president? You were fine with your DL overturning the entire Constitution when he was caretaker. You were fine with the SCOTUS appointments, the executions, the find-him-more-votes phone calls, the Capitol walking tours, the lot. Of course you'd defend a few long range missiles - if your DL did it. Sleepy Joe authorized their use following the involvement of a foreign army, North Korea. He's defending Ukraine in the first place through the tri-lateral Budapest Memorandum. This agreement, signed in 1994 by the US, UK and Russia, prohibits attacks on Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine, in exchange for their (then) nuclear weapons. Russia took the weapons, and Vlad is now threatening the rest of the world with them. I'd take a stab that North Korea is getting a little help with its own nuclear weapons program in exchange for its soldiers' lives. Give and take, innit. So? Vlad broke the agreement. A few long range missiles is perfectly within the rules. So no, dear, the jig's up. You gave up the use of all high moral terms like "caretaker government" when you backed your beloved DL. You gave up all claims to civilisation at all. You're now out and proud, a true card-carrying member of the Nationalsocialistiske Arbejderparti. And that's okay. We always knew you liked Danish, dear boy. There's no need to pretend with us. Own it.

That's enough idiotic tapdancing.

But what do the US and NATO want? What kind of Ukraine are they envisaging at the end of this war? The same corrupt, oligarch-controlled Ukraine as before the war? Or some sort of wonderful quazi-Finland or Sweden,  NATO member, democratic,  not corrupt, wonderfully cuddly??
What have all those Ukrainians died for? The oligarchs who control Ukraine and who are waiting it all out in Europe?

Frank wrote on Nov 25^th, 2024 at 6:40pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 5:16pm: Frank wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 3:50pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 1:00pm: I know Joe Rogan is only a commentator and former fighter, but he's clearly had one too many blows to his thick, empty head. He seems to think that President Zelensky is pushing the world closer to World War III simply because he has the audacity to defend the sovereignty of his country from the invading Russian military under that dictator Putin, and that President Biden is also helping push us toward this calamity by providing Ukraine with the means to defend themselves. Sure, Rogan isn't the sharpest knife in the draw - we all knew this already, especially when he backed Trump. But he clearly is a smacking moron given his line of thinking here! Ukraine did not start a war with Russia, it was the other way around. Russia illegally annexed Crimea in 2014 and are now trying to take the entire country. Zelensky has every right to defend his country and his people from Putin, and Biden is absolutely doing the right thing by giving him the means to do so, as are a multitude of other western nations - including Australia. Rogan needs to stick to calling stupid, pointless UFC fights and leave foreign policy to the grown-ups. https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/joe-rogan-rants-against-biden-zelensky-for-trying-to-start-world-war-iii/news-story/1bf0866a98f600bddcffe4e2d8066527 He actually blasted Sleepy Joe for authorising the use of American missiles into Russian territory even though he is only a caretaker prez. Had Biden been serious, he would have authorised it 2 years ago. But the the US, the West and NATO in particular have not been serious about this entire war.  We know what Putin wants - to incorporate Ukraine into Russia, Crimea first, then Donbas then the rest. But what do the US and NATO want? What kind of Ukraine are they envisaging at the end of this war? The same corrupt, oligarch-controlled Ukraine as before the war? Or some sort of wonderful quazi-Finland or Sweden,  NATO member, democratic,  not corrupt, wonderfully cuddly?? What have all those Ukrainians died for? The oligarchs who control Ukraine and who are waiting it all out in Europe? Not sure where you cut this one from, dear boy. Caretaker president? You were fine with your DL overturning the entire Constitution when he was caretaker. You were fine with the SCOTUS appointments, the executions, the find-him-more-votes phone calls, the Capitol walking tours, the lot. Of course you'd defend a few long range missiles - if your DL did it. Sleepy Joe authorized their use following the involvement of a foreign army, North Korea. He's defending Ukraine in the first place through the tri-lateral Budapest Memorandum. This agreement, signed in 1994 by the US, UK and Russia, prohibits attacks on Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine, in exchange for their (then) nuclear weapons. Russia took the weapons, and Vlad is now threatening the rest of the world with them. I'd take a stab that North Korea is getting a little help with its own nuclear weapons program in exchange for its soldiers' lives. Give and take, innit. So? Vlad broke the agreement. A few long range missiles is perfectly within the rules. So no, dear, the jig's up. You gave up the use of all high moral terms like "caretaker government" when you backed your beloved DL. You gave up all claims to civilisation at all. You're now out and proud, a true card-carrying member of the Nationalsocialistiske Arbejderparti. And that's okay. We always knew you liked Danish, dear boy. There's no need to pretend with us. Own it. That's enough idiotic tapdancing. But what do the US and NATO want? What kind of Ukraine are they envisaging at the end of this war? The same corrupt, oligarch-controlled Ukraine as before the war? Or some sort of wonderful quazi-Finland or Sweden,  NATO member, democratic,  not corrupt, wonderfully cuddly?? What have all those Ukrainians died for? The oligarchs who control Ukraine and who are waiting it all out in Europe?

You can't speaka highbrow foreign policy English with us, old boy. We know.

You no speaka da English. Your idiotic terms of reference come right off Russia Today, straight from Vlad.

There's no talking with an invader until he withdraws. No spineless equivocation, none. Ukraine is a sovereign country, free to join NATO, the EU, whatever it wants.

I would. Why would you want your country to join a corrupt kleptocracy like Vlad's Russia??

Oh - sorry, old chap. I forgot who I was talking to.

Forgive the English, dear boy. You no speaka.

I think that Rogan will live to regret interviewing and endorsing Trump.

He will now be a captive of Trump's persona - Trump's bitch, like Musk.

The day he criticises Trump. or refuses Trump another interview when Trump decides Rogan would be useful to him again, Rogan will learn how it feels to be flayed alive by a personality in full-blown narcissistic rage.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 25^th, 2024 at 8:22pm:

I think that Rogan will live to regret interviewing and endorsing Trump. He will now be a captive of Trump's persona - Trump's bitch, like Musk. The day he criticises Trump. or refuses Trump another interview when Trump decides Rogan would be useful to him again, Rogan will learn how it feels to be flayed alive by a personality in full-blown narcissistic rage.

that would be stupid

rogan is more powerful then trump

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25^th, 2024 at 8:47pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 8:22pm: I think that Rogan will live to regret interviewing and endorsing Trump. He will now be a captive of Trump's persona - Trump's bitch, like Musk. The day he criticises Trump. or refuses Trump another interview when Trump decides Rogan would be useful to him again, Rogan will learn how it feels to be flayed alive by a personality in full-blown narcissistic rage. that would be stupid rogan is more powerful then trump

Gee! And I thought you'd studied Trump's personality.

He made a comeback almost never seen in US politics - greater than that of Nixon's and even greater than that of Cleveland's.

He won the popular vote, the House, the Senate, the presidency.

He trashed every popular culture figure who stood against him, including Taylor Swift.

He has command of the US not seen since the likes of FDR.

And he did it, for better or, more likely, for worse, by the sheer force of his personality.

Trump commands the bro vote - Rogan's territory - It was Dana White (a Trump bro for life) who talked Rogan into interviewing Trump. Musk, who Rogan fawns over almost on all fours, asked for and got an interview with him, during most of which Musk raved about his father-figure Trump.

And Rogan's got the wood on Trump, you reckon?

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25^th, 2024 at 8:47pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 8:22pm: I think that Rogan will live to regret interviewing and endorsing Trump. He will now be a captive of Trump's persona - Trump's bitch, like Musk. The day he criticises Trump. or refuses Trump another interview when Trump decides Rogan would be useful to him again, Rogan will learn how it feels to be flayed alive by a personality in full-blown narcissistic rage. that would be stupid rogan is more powerful then trump

Right. He's probably mustering up the courage to interview Ron Desanctis as we speak.

So brave, no?

Karnal wrote on Nov 25^th, 2024 at 8:01pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 6:40pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 5:16pm: Frank wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 3:50pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 1:00pm: I know Joe Rogan is only a commentator and former fighter, but he's clearly had one too many blows to his thick, empty head. He seems to think that President Zelensky is pushing the world closer to World War III simply because he has the audacity to defend the sovereignty of his country from the invading Russian military under that dictator Putin, and that President Biden is also helping push us toward this calamity by providing Ukraine with the means to defend themselves. Sure, Rogan isn't the sharpest knife in the draw - we all knew this already, especially when he backed Trump. But he clearly is a smacking moron given his line of thinking here! Ukraine did not start a war with Russia, it was the other way around. Russia illegally annexed Crimea in 2014 and are now trying to take the entire country. Zelensky has every right to defend his country and his people from Putin, and Biden is absolutely doing the right thing by giving him the means to do so, as are a multitude of other western nations - including Australia. Rogan needs to stick to calling stupid, pointless UFC fights and leave foreign policy to the grown-ups. https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/joe-rogan-rants-against-biden-zelensky-for-trying-to-start-world-war-iii/news-story/1bf0866a98f600bddcffe4e2d8066527 He actually blasted Sleepy Joe for authorising the use of American missiles into Russian territory even though he is only a caretaker prez. Had Biden been serious, he would have authorised it 2 years ago. But the the US, the West and NATO in particular have not been serious about this entire war.  We know what Putin wants - to incorporate Ukraine into Russia, Crimea first, then Donbas then the rest. But what do the US and NATO want? What kind of Ukraine are they envisaging at the end of this war? The same corrupt, oligarch-controlled Ukraine as before the war? Or some sort of wonderful quazi-Finland or Sweden,  NATO member, democratic,  not corrupt, wonderfully cuddly?? What have all those Ukrainians died for? The oligarchs who control Ukraine and who are waiting it all out in Europe? Not sure where you cut this one from, dear boy. Caretaker president? You were fine with your DL overturning the entire Constitution when he was caretaker. You were fine with the SCOTUS appointments, the executions, the find-him-more-votes phone calls, the Capitol walking tours, the lot. Of course you'd defend a few long range missiles - if your DL did it. Sleepy Joe authorized their use following the involvement of a foreign army, North Korea. He's defending Ukraine in the first place through the tri-lateral Budapest Memorandum. This agreement, signed in 1994 by the US, UK and Russia, prohibits attacks on Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine, in exchange for their (then) nuclear weapons. Russia took the weapons, and Vlad is now threatening the rest of the world with them. I'd take a stab that North Korea is getting a little help with its own nuclear weapons program in exchange for its soldiers' lives. Give and take, innit. So? Vlad broke the agreement. A few long range missiles is perfectly within the rules. So no, dear, the jig's up. You gave up the use of all high moral terms like "caretaker government" when you backed your beloved DL. You gave up all claims to civilisation at all. You're now out and proud, a true card-carrying member of the Nationalsocialistiske Arbejderparti. And that's okay. We always knew you liked Danish, dear boy. There's no need to pretend with us. Own it. That's enough idiotic tapdancing. But what do the US and NATO want? What kind of Ukraine are they envisaging at the end of this war? The same corrupt, oligarch-controlled Ukraine as before the war? Or some sort of wonderful quazi-Finland or Sweden,  NATO member, democratic,  not corrupt, wonderfully cuddly?? What have all those Ukrainians died for? The oligarchs who control Ukraine and who are waiting it all out in Europe? You can't speaka highbrow foreign policy English with us, old boy. We know. You no speaka da English. Your idiotic terms of reference come right off Russia Today, straight from Vlad. There's no talking with an invader until he withdraws. No spineless equivocation, none. Ukraine is a sovereign country, free to join NATO, the EU, whatever it wants. I would. Why would you want your country to join a corrupt kleptocracy like Vlad's Russia?? Oh - sorry, old chap. I forgot who I was talking to. Forgive the English, dear boy. You no speaka.

You still haven't told us what the US and NATO want, tapdancer.

If Ukraine is so important to them, why not deploy NATO forces and impress their will on Russia? Why support Ukraine just enough to see it destroyed it but not enough to free it?

Frank wrote on Nov 25^th, 2024 at 10:47pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 8:01pm: Frank wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 6:40pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 5:16pm: Frank wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 3:50pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 1:00pm: I know Joe Rogan is only a commentator and former fighter, but he's clearly had one too many blows to his thick, empty head. He seems to think that President Zelensky is pushing the world closer to World War III simply because he has the audacity to defend the sovereignty of his country from the invading Russian military under that dictator Putin, and that President Biden is also helping push us toward this calamity by providing Ukraine with the means to defend themselves. Sure, Rogan isn't the sharpest knife in the draw - we all knew this already, especially when he backed Trump. But he clearly is a smacking moron given his line of thinking here! Ukraine did not start a war with Russia, it was the other way around. Russia illegally annexed Crimea in 2014 and are now trying to take the entire country. Zelensky has every right to defend his country and his people from Putin, and Biden is absolutely doing the right thing by giving him the means to do so, as are a multitude of other western nations - including Australia. Rogan needs to stick to calling stupid, pointless UFC fights and leave foreign policy to the grown-ups. https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/joe-rogan-rants-against-biden-zelensky-for-trying-to-start-world-war-iii/news-story/1bf0866a98f600bddcffe4e2d8066527 He actually blasted Sleepy Joe for authorising the use of American missiles into Russian territory even though he is only a caretaker prez. Had Biden been serious, he would have authorised it 2 years ago. But the the US, the West and NATO in particular have not been serious about this entire war.  We know what Putin wants - to incorporate Ukraine into Russia, Crimea first, then Donbas then the rest. But what do the US and NATO want? What kind of Ukraine are they envisaging at the end of this war? The same corrupt, oligarch-controlled Ukraine as before the war? Or some sort of wonderful quazi-Finland or Sweden,  NATO member, democratic,  not corrupt, wonderfully cuddly?? What have all those Ukrainians died for? The oligarchs who control Ukraine and who are waiting it all out in Europe? Not sure where you cut this one from, dear boy. Caretaker president? You were fine with your DL overturning the entire Constitution when he was caretaker. You were fine with the SCOTUS appointments, the executions, the find-him-more-votes phone calls, the Capitol walking tours, the lot. Of course you'd defend a few long range missiles - if your DL did it. Sleepy Joe authorized their use following the involvement of a foreign army, North Korea. raine, in exchange for their (then) nuclear weapons. Russia took the weapons, and Vlad is now threatening the rest of the world with them. I'd take a stab that North Korea is getting a little help with its own nuclear weapons program in exchange for its soldiers' lives. Give and take, innit. So? Vlad broke the agreement. A few long range missiles is perfectly within the rules. So no, dear, the jig's up. You gave up the use of all high moral terms like "caretaker government" when you backed your beloved DL. You gave up all claims to civilisation at all. You're now out and proud, a true card-carrying member of the Nationalsocialistiske Arbejderparti. And that's okay. We always knew you liked Danish, dear boy. There's no need to pretend with us. Own it. But what do the US and NATO want? What kind of Ukraine are they envisaging at the end of this war? The same corrupt, oligarch-controlled Ukraine as before the war? Or some sort of wonderful quazi-Finland or Sweden,  NATO member, democratic,  not corrupt, wonderfully cuddly?? What have all those Ukrainians died for? The oligarchs who control Ukraine and who are waiting it all out in Europe? You can't speaka highbrow foreign policy English with us, old boy. We know. You no speaka da English. Your idiotic terms of reference come right off Russia Today, straight from Vlad. There's no talking with an invader until he withdraws. No spineless equivocation, none. Ukraine is a sovereign country, free to join NATO, the EU, whatever it wants. I would. Why would you want your country to join a corrupt kleptocracy like Vlad's Russia?? Oh - sorry, old chap. I forgot who I was talking to. Forgive the English, dear boy. You no speaka. You still haven't told us what the US and NATO want, tapdancer. If Ukraine is so important to them, why not deploy NATO forces and impress their will on Russia? Why support Ukraine just enough to see it destroyed it but not enough to free it?

You still haven't come clean that the only reason you're bothering to engage in this topic is to give your DL some kind of win.

Never you mind. We'll watch you twist and turn and squish and squirm over the next few years to say whatever you're jolly well told. You have no principles, no convictions, no spine whatsoever.

You watch. In the next year, you'll go full-blown Vlad. Why?

DL said.

You still haven't told us what the US and NATO want, tapdancer.

If Ukraine is so important to them, why not deploy NATO forces and impress their will on Russia? Why support Ukraine just enough to see it destroyed it but not enough to free it?

You didn't  tell us for 2 years while the sock puppet was dangled before our eyes, so don't use Trump now, grimacing tapdancer, for still not telling us.

Be honest - but what am I asking YOU?? I might as well ask groggy creep to be honest. D'uh!  :D. Silly me. Forgot for a moment who I was addressing.

As you were.

Frank wrote on Nov 25^th, 2024 at 11:20pm:

You still haven't told us what the US and NATO want, tapdancer. If Ukraine is so important to them, why not deploy NATO forces and impress their will on Russia? Why support Ukraine just enough to see it destroyed it but not enough to free it? You didn't  tell us for 2 years while the sock puppet was dangled before our eyes, so don't use Trump now, grimacing tapdancer, for still not telling us. Be honest - but what am I asking YOU?? I might as well ask groggy creep to be honest. D'uh!  :D. Silly me. Forgot for a moment who I was addressing. As you were.

Not at all. You're just playing Dorothy.

Follow the yellow brick road n'all. The days you were curious are long gone. Now, you only listen to he. You'll say exactly what you're told, and be good about it too.

Silly you. You forgot who you were addressing, no?

Karnal wrote on Nov 25^th, 2024 at 11:46pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 11:20pm: You still haven't told us what the US and NATO want, tapdancer. If Ukraine is so important to them, why not deploy NATO forces and impress their will on Russia? Why support Ukraine just enough to see it destroyed it but not enough to free it? You didn't  tell us for 2 years while the sock puppet was dangled before our eyes, so don't use Trump now, grimacing tapdancer, for still not telling us. Be honest - but what am I asking YOU?? I might as well ask groggy creep to be honest. D'uh!  :D. Silly me. Forgot for a moment who I was addressing. As you were. Not at all. You're just playing Dorothy. Follow the yellow brick road n'all. The days you were curious are long gone. Now, you only listen to he. You'll say exactly what you're told, and be good about it too. Silly you. You forgot who you were addressing, no?

um

doing exactly what you are told is what YOU do when you follow the narrative of the mainstream media  ::) ::) ::)

govern me harder daddy

you are just a cuck and a sub to the mainstream
:'( :'( :'(

Karnal wrote on Nov 25^th, 2024 at 10:33pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 8:47pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 8:22pm: I think that Rogan will live to regret interviewing and endorsing Trump. He will now be a captive of Trump's persona - Trump's bitch, like Musk. The day he criticises Trump. or refuses Trump another interview when Trump decides Rogan would be useful to him again, Rogan will learn how it feels to be flayed alive by a personality in full-blown narcissistic rage. that would be stupid rogan is more powerful then trump Right. He's probably mustering up the courage to interview Ron Desanctis as we speak. So brave, no?

rogan is orders of magnitude more popular then any politician

and genuinely well connected

mustering up the courage ??? ;D ;D ;D

you have lost it  :'( :'( :'(

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 25^th, 2024 at 8:22pm:

I think that Rogan will live to regret interviewing and endorsing Trump. He will now be a captive of Trump's persona - Trump's bitch, like Musk. The day he criticises Trump. or refuses Trump another interview when Trump decides Rogan would be useful to him again, Rogan will learn how it feels to be flayed alive by a personality in full-blown narcissistic rage.

Therein lies the issue - once you hitch your wagon to Trump, you can't unhitch it without attracting the wrath of his delusional MAGA cult members along with the orange moron himself.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 9:00am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 8:22pm: I think that Rogan will live to regret interviewing and endorsing Trump. He will now be a captive of Trump's persona - Trump's bitch, like Musk. The day he criticises Trump. or refuses Trump another interview when Trump decides Rogan would be useful to him again, Rogan will learn how it feels to be flayed alive by a personality in full-blown narcissistic rage. Therein lies the issue - once you hitch your wagon to Trump, you can't unhitch it without attracting the wrath of his delusional MAGA cult members along with the orange moron himself.

Those who hitch their wagon to Trump, usually end up losing.

Just look at the long list of people who have had their lives ruined by the rapist.

Starting with Rudy Giuliani.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 25^th, 2024 at 9:30pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 8:47pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 8:22pm: I think that Rogan will live to regret interviewing and endorsing Trump. He will now be a captive of Trump's persona - Trump's bitch, like Musk. The day he criticises Trump. or refuses Trump another interview when Trump decides Rogan would be useful to him again, Rogan will learn how it feels to be flayed alive by a personality in full-blown narcissistic rage. that would be stupid rogan is more powerful then trump Gee! And I thought you'd studied Trump's personality. He made a comeback almost never seen in US politics - greater than that of Nixon's and even greater than that of Cleveland's. He won the popular vote, the House, the Senate, the presidency. He trashed every popular culture figure who stood against him, including Taylor Swift. He has command of the US not seen since the likes of FDR. And he did it, for better or, more likely, for worse, by the sheer force of his personality. Trump commands the bro vote - Rogan's territory - It was Dana White (a Trump bro for life) who talked Rogan into interviewing Trump. Musk, who Rogan fawns over almost on all fours, asked for and got an interview with him, during most of which Musk raved about his father-figure Trump. And Rogan's got the wood on Trump, you reckon?

It's interesting you say that, which I've highlighted. Yes, he swept the electoral college. However, when you look at individual votes, Trump only won by about 2 million votes, which is a difference between him and Harris of only 1.6% overall. So his win isn't really that big in terms of the popular vote, making it actually a very close election, and again the win comes down to the electoral college.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 9:05am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 9:30pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 8:47pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 8:22pm: I think that Rogan will live to regret interviewing and endorsing Trump. He will now be a captive of Trump's persona - Trump's bitch, like Musk. The day he criticises Trump. or refuses Trump another interview when Trump decides Rogan would be useful to him again, Rogan will learn how it feels to be flayed alive by a personality in full-blown narcissistic rage. that would be stupid rogan is more powerful then trump Gee! And I thought you'd studied Trump's personality. He made a comeback almost never seen in US politics - greater than that of Nixon's and even greater than that of Cleveland's. He won the popular vote, the House, the Senate, the presidency. He trashed every popular culture figure who stood against him, including Taylor Swift. He has command of the US not seen since the likes of FDR. And he did it, for better or, more likely, for worse, by the sheer force of his personality. Trump commands the bro vote - Rogan's territory - It was Dana White (a Trump bro for life) who talked Rogan into interviewing Trump. Musk, who Rogan fawns over almost on all fours, asked for and got an interview with him, during most of which Musk raved about his father-figure Trump. And Rogan's got the wood on Trump, you reckon? It's interesting you say that, which I've highlighted. Yes, he swept the electoral college. However, when you look at individual votes, Trump only won by about 2 million votes, which is a difference between him and Harris of only 1.6% overall. So his win isn't really that big in terms of the popular vote, making it actually a very close election, and again the win comes down to the electoral college.

That's exactly right.

Sure, he won.  But it's not the “unprecedented and powerful mandate to govern” that he thinks it is.

The data suggests it was a much closer contest than he and his allies are suggesting.

In 2024, Trump’s win of both the popular vote and the presidency can be seen as an improvement on his last victory eight years ago.

But Trump cannot say that he won the outright majority of the presidential votes that were cast in the election overall.

To do so, he would need to have won more than 50%, as all victors have done for the last 20 years - other than Trump in 2016.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 9:05am:

It's interesting you say that, which I've highlighted. Yes, he swept the electoral college. However, when you look at individual votes, Trump only won by about 2 million votes, which is a difference between him and Harris of only 1.6% overall. So his win isn't really that big in terms of the popular vote, making it actually a very close election, and again the win comes down to the electoral college.

That'll console the Democrats in coffee houses, NOT!

A win that big is a win that big.

There's no qualifying it now such that it will make any difference to the Trump Administration's sense of mandate to enact its projects in their entirety.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 9:29am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 9:05am: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 9:30pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 8:47pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 8:22pm: I think that Rogan will live to regret interviewing and endorsing Trump. He will now be a captive of Trump's persona - Trump's bitch, like Musk. The day he criticises Trump. or refuses Trump another interview when Trump decides Rogan would be useful to him again, Rogan will learn how it feels to be flayed alive by a personality in full-blown narcissistic rage. that would be stupid rogan is more powerful then trump Gee! And I thought you'd studied Trump's personality. He made a comeback almost never seen in US politics - greater than that of Nixon's and even greater than that of Cleveland's. He won the popular vote, the House, the Senate, the presidency. He trashed every popular culture figure who stood against him, including Taylor Swift. He has command of the US not seen since the likes of FDR. And he did it, for better or, more likely, for worse, by the sheer force of his personality. Trump commands the bro vote - Rogan's territory - It was Dana White (a Trump bro for life) who talked Rogan into interviewing Trump. Musk, who Rogan fawns over almost on all fours, asked for and got an interview with him, during most of which Musk raved about his father-figure Trump. And Rogan's got the wood on Trump, you reckon? It's interesting you say that, which I've highlighted. Yes, he swept the electoral college. However, when you look at individual votes, Trump only won by about 2 million votes, which is a difference between him and Harris of only 1.6% overall. So his win isn't really that big in terms of the popular vote, making it actually a very close election, and again the win comes down to the electoral college. That's exactly right. Sure, he won.  But it's not the “unprecedented and powerful mandate to govern” that he thinks it is. The data suggests it was a much closer contest than he and his allies are suggesting. In 2024, Trump’s win of both the popular vote and the presidency can be seen as an improvement on his last victory eight years ago. But Trump cannot say that he won the outright majority of the presidential votes that were cast in the election overall. To do so, he would need to have won more than 50%, as all victors have done for the last 20 years - other than Trump in 2016.

Wake up and smell the coffee you're crying into.

Mandate is a word you're going to need to come to terms with when a candidate and party take all.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 9:38am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 9:05am: It's interesting you say that, which I've highlighted. Yes, he swept the electoral college. However, when you look at individual votes, Trump only won by about 2 million votes, which is a difference between him and Harris of only 1.6% overall. So his win isn't really that big in terms of the popular vote, making it actually a very close election, and again the win comes down to the electoral college. That'll console the Democrats in coffee houses, NOT! A win that big is a win that big. There's no qualifying it now such that it will make any difference to the Trump Administration's sense of mandate to enact its projects in their entirety.

Except the win isn't as big as you're making it out to be. He barely beat Harris with less than 2% in it in the end. Hardly a big win.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 10:22am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 9:38am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 9:05am: It's interesting you say that, which I've highlighted. Yes, he swept the electoral college. However, when you look at individual votes, Trump only won by about 2 million votes, which is a difference between him and Harris of only 1.6% overall. So his win isn't really that big in terms of the popular vote, making it actually a very close election, and again the win comes down to the electoral college. That'll console the Democrats in coffee houses, NOT! A win that big is a win that big. There's no qualifying it now such that it will make any difference to the Trump Administration's sense of mandate to enact its projects in their entirety. Except the win isn't as big as you're making it out to be. He barely beat Harris with less than 2% in it in the end. Hardly a big win.

Another one who needs to wake up and smell the coffee he's crying into.

Mandate is a word you're going to need to come to terms with when a candidate and party take all.

Try to look at it this way, as the redness of your cheeks fades after all those tears: had the exact reverse (same numbers) happened, would you be qualifying that Harris win as anything other than a full mandate to govern? And would any such Republican quibbling be just coffeehouse crap?

aquascoot wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 4:51am:

Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 11:46pm: Frank wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 11:20pm: You still haven't told us what the US and NATO want, tapdancer. If Ukraine is so important to them, why not deploy NATO forces and impress their will on Russia? Why support Ukraine just enough to see it destroyed it but not enough to free it? You didn't  tell us for 2 years while the sock puppet was dangled before our eyes, so don't use Trump now, grimacing tapdancer, for still not telling us. Be honest - but what am I asking YOU?? I might as well ask groggy creep to be honest. D'uh!  :D. Silly me. Forgot for a moment who I was addressing. As you were. Not at all. You're just playing Dorothy. Follow the yellow brick road n'all. The days you were curious are long gone. Now, you only listen to he. You'll say exactly what you're told, and be good about it too. Silly you. You forgot who you were addressing, no? um doing exactly what you are told is what YOU do when you follow the narrative of the mainstream media  ::) ::) ::) govern me harder daddy you are just a cuck and a sub to the mainstream :'( :'( :'(

A cuck and a sub to the mainstream, is it?

Here we have the old boy pasting his geopolitical distractions, cut directly from RT.

And here we have you, posing the brave new alternative to facts: the Joe Rogan Experience.

Oh, brave new world with such marvellous things in it, no?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 9:00am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 8:22pm: I think that Rogan will live to regret interviewing and endorsing Trump. He will now be a captive of Trump's persona - Trump's bitch, like Musk. The day he criticises Trump. or refuses Trump another interview when Trump decides Rogan would be useful to him again, Rogan will learn how it feels to be flayed alive by a personality in full-blown narcissistic rage. Therein lies the issue - once you hitch your wagon to Trump, you can't unhitch it without attracting the wrath of his delusional MAGA cult members along with the orange moron himself.

Gee that sounds just like Bill & Hilary.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 9:29am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 9:05am: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 9:30pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 8:47pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 8:22pm: I think that Rogan will live to regret interviewing and endorsing Trump. He will now be a captive of Trump's persona - Trump's bitch, like Musk. The day he criticises Trump. or refuses Trump another interview when Trump decides Rogan would be useful to him again, Rogan will learn how it feels to be flayed alive by a personality in full-blown narcissistic rage. that would be stupid rogan is more powerful then trump Gee! And I thought you'd studied Trump's personality. He made a comeback almost never seen in US politics - greater than that of Nixon's and even greater than that of Cleveland's. He won the popular vote, the House, the Senate, the presidency. He trashed every popular culture figure who stood against him, including Taylor Swift. He has command of the US not seen since the likes of FDR. And he did it, for better or, more likely, for worse, by the sheer force of his personality. Trump commands the bro vote - Rogan's territory - It was Dana White (a Trump bro for life) who talked Rogan into interviewing Trump. Musk, who Rogan fawns over almost on all fours, asked for and got an interview with him, during most of which Musk raved about his father-figure Trump. And Rogan's got the wood on Trump, you reckon? It's interesting you say that, which I've highlighted. Yes, he swept the electoral college. However, when you look at individual votes, Trump only won by about 2 million votes, which is a difference between him and Harris of only 1.6% overall. So his win isn't really that big in terms of the popular vote, making it actually a very close election, and again the win comes down to the electoral college. That's exactly right. Sure, he won.  But it's not the “unprecedented and powerful mandate to govern” that he thinks it is. The data suggests it was a much closer contest than he and his allies are suggesting. In 2024, Trump’s win of both the popular vote and the presidency can be seen as an improvement on his last victory eight years ago. But Trump cannot say that he won the outright majority of the presidential votes that were cast in the election overall. To do so, he would need to have won more than 50%, as all victors have done for the last 20 years - other than Trump in 2016.

Twice now .... & you're still here ::)

No cred ... just reneges.

Karnal wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 11:00am:

And here we have you, posing the brave new alternative to facts: the Joe Rogan Experience.

There is a sense of manic religiosity to this blind belief in new media podcasting... Like the start of the Seventh Day Adventists, for example, as if, in lieu of Jesus returning to earth, podcasting will usher in an era of absolute truth-telling by October 22, 2025.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 10:22am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 9:38am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 9:05am: It's interesting you say that, which I've highlighted. Yes, he swept the electoral college. However, when you look at individual votes, Trump only won by about 2 million votes, which is a difference between him and Harris of only 1.6% overall. So his win isn't really that big in terms of the popular vote, making it actually a very close election, and again the win comes down to the electoral college. That'll console the Democrats in coffee houses, NOT! A win that big is a win that big. There's no qualifying it now such that it will make any difference to the Trump Administration's sense of mandate to enact its projects in their entirety. Except the win isn't as big as you're making it out to be. He barely beat Harris with less than 2% in it in the end. Hardly a big win.

True.

And he didn't receive 50% of the vote.

Hardly a landslide, and not really a mandate.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 11:50am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 10:22am: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 9:38am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 9:05am: It's interesting you say that, which I've highlighted. Yes, he swept the electoral college. However, when you look at individual votes, Trump only won by about 2 million votes, which is a difference between him and Harris of only 1.6% overall. So his win isn't really that big in terms of the popular vote, making it actually a very close election, and again the win comes down to the electoral college. That'll console the Democrats in coffee houses, NOT! A win that big is a win that big. There's no qualifying it now such that it will make any difference to the Trump Administration's sense of mandate to enact its projects in their entirety. Except the win isn't as big as you're making it out to be. He barely beat Harris with less than 2% in it in the end. Hardly a big win. True. And he didn't receive 50% of the vote. Hardly a landslide, and not really a mandate.

You're making a wanker out of yourself.

What does not really a mandate mean? (Even Grammarly doesn't like the term!).

If your team wins by one point but didn't dominate every minute of the game, did they not really win?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 11:58am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 11:50am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 10:22am: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 9:38am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 9:05am: It's interesting you say that, which I've highlighted. Yes, he swept the electoral college. However, when you look at individual votes, Trump only won by about 2 million votes, which is a difference between him and Harris of only 1.6% overall. So his win isn't really that big in terms of the popular vote, making it actually a very close election, and again the win comes down to the electoral college. That'll console the Democrats in coffee houses, NOT! A win that big is a win that big. There's no qualifying it now such that it will make any difference to the Trump Administration's sense of mandate to enact its projects in their entirety. Except the win isn't as big as you're making it out to be. He barely beat Harris with less than 2% in it in the end. Hardly a big win. True. And he didn't receive 50% of the vote. Hardly a landslide, and not really a mandate. You're making a wanker out of yourself. What does not really a mandate mean? (Even Grammarly doesn't like the term!). If your team wins by one point but didn't dominate every minute of the game, did they not really win?

Mandate is an ambiguous term.

The rapist thinks he has a mandate because he won the electoral college and the popular vote.

I would argue (and many would, and do, agree with me) that the convicted felon does not have a mandate on the basis that the majority of voters did not vote for him.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 12:53pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 11:58am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 11:50am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 10:22am: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 9:38am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 9:05am: It's interesting you say that, which I've highlighted. Yes, he swept the electoral college. However, when you look at individual votes, Trump only won by about 2 million votes, which is a difference between him and Harris of only 1.6% overall. So his win isn't really that big in terms of the popular vote, making it actually a very close election, and again the win comes down to the electoral college. That'll console the Democrats in coffee houses, NOT! A win that big is a win that big. There's no qualifying it now such that it will make any difference to the Trump Administration's sense of mandate to enact its projects in their entirety. Except the win isn't as big as you're making it out to be. He barely beat Harris with less than 2% in it in the end. Hardly a big win. True. And he didn't receive 50% of the vote. Hardly a landslide, and not really a mandate. You're making a wanker out of yourself. What does not really a mandate mean? (Even Grammarly doesn't like the term!). If your team wins by one point but didn't dominate every minute of the game, did they not really win? Mandate is an ambiguous term. The rapist thinks he has a mandate because he won the electoral college and the popular vote. I would argue (and many would, and do, agree with me) that the convicted felon does not have a mandate on the basis that the majority of voters did not vote for him.

i'll pass that on to trump
i'm sure he'll give your opinion the attention it deserves

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 12:53pm:

I would argue (and many would, and do, agree with me) that the convicted felon does not have a mandate on the basis that the majority of voters did not vote for him.

By that reckoning, slippery unflushable, Biden and Obama didn't have a mandate, nor Albo, Starmer or anyone in power in a liberal democracy, not even in compulsory voting jurisdictions like Australia.

But for some reason you never doubted Biden's or Obama's mandate. Why is that?
Because you are a slippery, dishonest creep.

As you were.

Frank wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 12:53pm: I would argue (and many would, and do, agree with me) that the convicted felon does not have a mandate on the basis that the majority of voters did not vote for him. By that reckoning, slippery unflushable, Biden and Obama didn't have a mandate, nor Albo, Starmer or anyone in power in a liberal democracy, not even in compulsory voting jurisdictions like Australia. But for some reason you never doubted Biden's or Obama's mandate. Why is that? Because you are a slippery, dishonest creep. As you were.

When did I say Obama and Biden had a mandate?

I'm curious.

Frank wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 12:53pm: I would argue (and many would, and do, agree with me) that the convicted felon does not have a mandate on the basis that the majority of voters did not vote for him. By that reckoning, slippery unflushable, Biden and Obama didn't have a mandate, ...

In 2020, Biden won the popular vote.

He also won the electoral college.

And, the majority of voters - 51.3% - voted for Biden.


In 2012, Obama won the popular vote.

He also won the electoral college.

And, the majority of voters - 51.1% - voted for Obama.


What are the chances of you getting something right today?

I'm curious.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 12:53pm:

The rapist thinks he has a mandate because he won the electoral college and the popular vote. I would argue (and many would, and do, agree with me) that the convicted felon does not have a mandate on the basis that the majority of voters did not vote for him.

Those who believe in democracy have no choice but to accept the outcome of an election, whatever it is, and trust in the institutions that safeguard it.

The New York Times and the Huff Post et al would have had us believe Harris was ready to govern. Was she? The people didn't think so.

What you and all Australians should be focussed on is what a Trump Administration means for us, will it be good for Australia? Not what it means to Americans or the US, or even what it means to each of us personally.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 12:53pm: The rapist thinks he has a mandate because he won the electoral college and the popular vote. I would argue (and many would, and do, agree with me) that the convicted felon does not have a mandate on the basis that the majority of voters did not vote for him. Those who believe in democracy have no choice but to accept the outcome of an election,...

Don't change the subject just because you've been proven wrong.

I'm not disputing the rapist's win.  He won.

I'm disputing how big a win it was, and I'm disputing his claim to have a mandate.

Without the majority of voters voting for him, the convicted felon can't put up a convincing argument that he has a mandate.

Many people agree that a true mandate requires a win in all three categories: electoral college, popular vote, and majority of voters.

The rapist scored two out of three.

That might be okay for Meatloaf, but not for serious political pundits.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:35pm:

Mandate is an ambiguous term.

It means:

We can govern because the people said we can.

Confirmed beyond contention when those who challenged us conceded that.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:47pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 1:43pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 12:53pm: The rapist thinks he has a mandate because he won the electoral college and the popular vote. I would argue (and many would, and do, agree with me) that the convicted felon does not have a mandate on the basis that the majority of voters did not vote for him. Those who believe in democracy have no choice but to accept the outcome of an election,... Don't change the subject just because you've been proven wrong. I'm not disputing the rapist's win.  He won. I'm disputing how big a win it was, and I'm disputing his claim to have a mandate. Without the majority of voters voting for him, the convicted felon can't put up a convincing argument that he has a mandate. Many people agree that a true mandate requires a win in all three categories: electoral college, popular vote, and majority of voters. The rapist scored two out of three. That might be okay for Meatloaf, but not for serious political pundits.

yep, no doubt about it

peccas lost touch with reality  ;D ;D ;D ;D

chronic fapping can do that to you

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:47pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 1:43pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 12:53pm: The rapist thinks he has a mandate because he won the electoral college and the popular vote. I would argue (and many would, and do, agree with me) that the convicted felon does not have a mandate on the basis that the majority of voters did not vote for him. Those who believe in democracy have no choice but to accept the outcome of an election,... Don't change the subject just because you've been proven wrong. I'm not disputing the rapist's win.  He won. I'm disputing how big a win it was, and I'm disputing his claim to have a mandate.

Maybe I'll use the rhetorical milieu you like speaking in.

It doesn't matter the size of the cock, it's whether it can impregnate.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 1:35pm: Mandate is an ambiguous term. It means: We can govern because the people said we can. Confirmed beyond contention when those who challenged us conceded that.

The majority of the people?

As I said, an ambiguous term.

Obama and Biden scored a perfect score of three out of three.

The rapist only scored two out of three.

Not a real mandate, in many experts' opinion.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 1:47pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 1:43pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 12:53pm: The rapist thinks he has a mandate because he won the electoral college and the popular vote. I would argue (and many would, and do, agree with me) that the convicted felon does not have a mandate on the basis that the majority of voters did not vote for him. Those who believe in democracy have no choice but to accept the outcome of an election,... Don't change the subject just because you've been proven wrong. I'm not disputing the rapist's win.  He won. I'm disputing how big a win it was, and I'm disputing his claim to have a mandate. Maybe I'll use the rhetorical milieu you like speaking in. It doesn't matter the size of the cock, it's whether it can impregnate.

It's whether it has the consent to impregnate.

If not, it's rape.

Hmm, an apt description.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:53pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 1:49pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 1:35pm: Mandate is an ambiguous term. It means: We can govern because the people said we can. Confirmed beyond contention when those who challenged us conceded that. The majority of the people? As I said, an ambiguous term. Obama and Biden scored a perfect score of three out of three. The rapist only scored two out of three. Not a real mandate, in many experts' opinion.

Will you spend the next 4 years hand-wringing over the US electoral college as well?

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:54pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 1:52pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 1:47pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 1:43pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 12:53pm: The rapist thinks he has a mandate because he won the electoral college and the popular vote. I would argue (and many would, and do, agree with me) that the convicted felon does not have a mandate on the basis that the majority of voters did not vote for him. Those who believe in democracy have no choice but to accept the outcome of an election,... Don't change the subject just because you've been proven wrong. I'm not disputing the rapist's win.  He won. I'm disputing how big a win it was, and I'm disputing his claim to have a mandate. Maybe I'll use the rhetorical milieu you like speaking in. It doesn't matter the size of the cock, it's whether it can impregnate. It's whether it has the consent to impregnate. If not, it's rape. Hmm, an apt description.

Maybe look at it from a Darwinian perspective... if only to divert you from rape for one post.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 2:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 1:53pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 1:49pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 1:35pm: Mandate is an ambiguous term. It means: We can govern because the people said we can. Confirmed beyond contention when those who challenged us conceded that. The majority of the people? As I said, an ambiguous term. Obama and Biden scored a perfect score of three out of three. The rapist only scored two out of three. Not a real mandate, in many experts' opinion. Will you spend the next 4 years hand-wringing over the US electoral college as well?

There's no hand-wringing here.

I'm merely pointing out the facts.

Without the majority of voters voting for the rapist, it's hard for him to mount a serious argument that he has a mandate.

And, the electoral college is stupid.  Everyone knows that.

But again, no hand-wringing - if that's the system in place, then that's the system that needs to be followed and respected.

The rapist won the electoral college in 2016, so that means he got to be President.

However, he lost the popular vote and he did not have a majority of voters voting for him (not even close, at 46.1%), so again - no mandate.

Obama and Biden won all three categories though, so I guess - using your terminology - Obama and Biden had bigger cocks and full consent to impregnate.

Diaper Don has a tiny mushroom, and has to resort to rape.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 2:09pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 2:01pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 1:53pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 1:49pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 1:35pm: Mandate is an ambiguous term. It means: We can govern because the people said we can. Confirmed beyond contention when those who challenged us conceded that. The majority of the people? As I said, an ambiguous term. Obama and Biden scored a perfect score of three out of three. The rapist only scored two out of three. Not a real mandate, in many experts' opinion. Will you spend the next 4 years hand-wringing over the US electoral college as well? There's no hand-wringing here. I'm merely pointing out the facts. Without the majority of voters voting for the rapist, it's hard for him to mount a serious argument that he has a mandate. And, the electoral college is stupid.  Everyone knows that. But again, no hand-wringing - if that's the system in place, then that's the system that needs to be followed and respected. The rapist won the electoral college in 2016, so that means he got to be President. However, he lost the popular vote and he did not have a majority of voters voting for him (not even close, at 46.1%), so again - no mandate. Obama and Biden won all three categories though, so I guess - using your terminology - Obama and Biden had bigger cocks and full consent to impregnate. Diaper Don has a tiny mushroom, and has to resort to rape.

So no hand-wringing, just more neurotic reiteration, then...

The Rhyme of the Ancient Wanker.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 2:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 2:09pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 2:01pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 1:53pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 1:49pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 1:35pm: Mandate is an ambiguous term. It means: We can govern because the people said we can. Confirmed beyond contention when those who challenged us conceded that. The majority of the people? As I said, an ambiguous term. Obama and Biden scored a perfect score of three out of three. The rapist only scored two out of three. Not a real mandate, in many experts' opinion. Will you spend the next 4 years hand-wringing over the US electoral college as well? There's no hand-wringing here. I'm merely pointing out the facts. Without the majority of voters voting for the rapist, it's hard for him to mount a serious argument that he has a mandate. And, the electoral college is stupid.  Everyone knows that. But again, no hand-wringing - if that's the system in place, then that's the system that needs to be followed and respected. The rapist won the electoral college in 2016, so that means he got to be President. However, he lost the popular vote and he did not have a majority of voters voting for him (not even close, at 46.1%), so again - no mandate. Obama and Biden won all three categories though, so I guess - using your terminology - Obama and Biden had bigger cocks and full consent to impregnate. Diaper Don has a tiny mushroom, and has to resort to rape. So no hand-wringing, ...

Correct.

And no mandate for the rapist.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 2:27pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 2:16pm: So no hand-wringing, ... Correct. And no mandate for the rapist.

You missed the second part of my post.

Frank wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 12:53pm: I would argue (and many would, and do, agree with me) that the convicted felon does not have a mandate on the basis that the majority of voters did not vote for him. By that reckoning, slippery unflushable, Biden and Obama didn't have a mandate, ...

In 2020, Biden won the popular vote.

He also won the electoral college.

And, the majority of voters - 51.3% - voted for him.


In 2012, Obama won the popular vote.

He also won the electoral college.

And, the majority of voters - 51.1% - voted for him.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:43pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 1:36pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 12:53pm: I would argue (and many would, and do, agree with me) that the convicted felon does not have a mandate on the basis that the majority of voters did not vote for him. By that reckoning, slippery unflushable, Biden and Obama didn't have a mandate, ... In 2020, Biden won the popular vote. He also won the electoral college. And, the majority of voters - 51.3% - voted for Biden. In 2012, Obama won the popular vote. He also won the electoral college. And, the majority of voters - 51.1% - voted for Obama. What are the chances of you getting something right today? I'm curious.

No, you are a sly, lying eejit.

The majority of voters did NOT vote for Biden or Obama either.

The majority of those who turned out may have voted for Obama. Not the same as the majority of the eligible electorate.

Even in Australia, with voter turnout above 90%, Albo didnt get the majority of votes eithe rf. So by your reckoning he has no mandate either. But you ar es not crowing about tgat, are yoh, slimey ball.

Frank wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 5:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 1:43pm: Frank wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 1:36pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 12:53pm: I would argue (and many would, and do, agree with me) that the convicted felon does not have a mandate on the basis that the majority of voters did not vote for him. By that reckoning, slippery unflushable, Biden and Obama didn't have a mandate, ... In 2020, Biden won the popular vote. He also won the electoral college. And, the majority of voters - 51.3% - voted for Biden. In 2012, Obama won the popular vote. He also won the electoral college. And, the majority of voters - 51.1% - voted for Obama. What are the chances of you getting something right today? I'm curious. No, you are a sly, lying eejit. The majority of voters did NOT vote for Biden or Obama either.

Proven wrong, once again, you change the subject.

I didn't say "the majority of the eligible electorate".

I said the majority of voters (voter = someone who actually votes).

51.3% and 51.1%, respectively.

They both won the trifecta: popular vote, electoral college, and majority of voters.

Apology accepted.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 11:36am:

Karnal wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 11:00am: And here we have you, posing the brave new alternative to facts: the Joe Rogan Experience. There is a sense of manic religiosity to this blind belief in new media podcasting... Like the start of the Seventh Day Adventists, for example, as if, in lieu of Jesus returning to earth, podcasting will usher in an era of absolute truth-telling by October 22, 2025.

There is a sense of manic religiosity in all of Aquascoot's posts. The devotion to Stephen Covey, Zuby, Desanctis, DL, Joe Rogan and now, with his reference to cucks and incels, Andrew Tate, is cult-like in its fervour.

If only he would stick to one Dear Leader. Aquascoot's even had us bowing down before our fridges to weep tears of pure gratitude for our whitegoods.

He changed his tune when somebody pointed out that the fridge was a communist invention. He subsequently turned his devotion over to vaccines, then off vaccines, and on and off various DLs, as you do. Aquascoot's been on and off the Israelis - loved the bombing of Gaza, not so hot on Zionism (too secular and leftist), but do you know?

The one icon in Aquascoot's manic religiousity remains intact: Vlad. Aquascoot has been a Putin worshipper from day one.

Some things never change, no?

Karnal wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 5:35pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 11:36am: Karnal wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 11:00am: And here we have you, posing the brave new alternative to facts: the Joe Rogan Experience. There is a sense of manic religiosity to this blind belief in new media podcasting... Like the start of the Seventh Day Adventists, for example, as if, in lieu of Jesus returning to earth, podcasting will usher in an era of absolute truth-telling by October 22, 2025. There is a sense of manic religiosity in all of Aquascoot's posts. The devotion to Stephen Covey, Zuby, Desanctis, DL, Joe Rogan and now, with his reference to cucks and incels, Andrew Tate, is cult-like in its fervour. If only he would stick to one Dear Leader. He's even had us bowing down before our fridges to weep tears of pure gratitude for our whitegoods. He changed his tune when somebody pointed out that the fridge was a communist invention. He subsequently turned his devotion over to vaccines, then off vaccines, and on and off various DLs, as you do. He's been on and off the Israelis - loved the bombing of Gaza, not so hot on Zionism (too secular and leftist), but do you know? The one icon in Aquascoot's manic religiousity remains intact: Vlad. Aquascoot has been a worshipper from day one. Some things never change, no?

1/2 of that is made up

but we should study 'superior men'

i find "superior men" inspiring and hope to learn the path they trod so i can be a bit like them

you find superior men a threat to your ego , so you go for a little hit of dopamine by telling yourself
'trump is a loser, he has small hands or a mushroom tip or he has to pay for sex from malenia'

this says nothing about trump and everything about you and gweg

you are very insecure and have to try to drag down successful people so you dont slit your wrists

own the fact that you are a little worm and then try to be less worm like

studying your superiors (smug intellectuals find it hard to acknowledge anyone is superior to them ::))   is you path out of mediocre chode purgatory

aquascoot wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 5:44pm:

you are very insecure and have to try to drag down successful people so you dont slit your wrists

So much success.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrwfYpGXQAE2BhO.jpg

aquascoot wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 5:44pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 5:35pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 11:36am: Karnal wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 11:00am: And here we have you, posing the brave new alternative to facts: the Joe Rogan Experience. There is a sense of manic religiosity to this blind belief in new media podcasting... Like the start of the Seventh Day Adventists, for example, as if, in lieu of Jesus returning to earth, podcasting will usher in an era of absolute truth-telling by October 22, 2025. There is a sense of manic religiosity in all of Aquascoot's posts. The devotion to Stephen Covey, Zuby, Desanctis, DL, Joe Rogan and now, with his reference to cucks and incels, Andrew Tate, is cult-like in its fervour. If only he would stick to one Dear Leader. He's even had us bowing down before our fridges to weep tears of pure gratitude for our whitegoods. He changed his tune when somebody pointed out that the fridge was a communist invention. He subsequently turned his devotion over to vaccines, then off vaccines, and on and off various DLs, as you do. He's been on and off the Israelis - loved the bombing of Gaza, not so hot on Zionism (too secular and leftist), but do you know? The one icon in Aquascoot's manic religiousity remains intact: Vlad. Aquascoot has been a worshipper from day one. Some things never change, no? 1/2 of that is made up but we should study 'superior men' i find "superior men" inspiring and hope to learn the path they trod so i can be a bit like them you find superior men a threat to your ego , so you go for a little hit of dopamine by telling yourself 'trump is a loser, he has small hands or a mushroom tip or he has to pay for sex from malenia' this says nothing about trump and everything about you and gweg you are very insecure and have to try to drag down successful people so you dont slit your wrists own the fact that you are a little worm and then try to be less worm like studying your superiors (smug intellectuals find it hard to acknowledge anyone is superior to them ::))   is you path out of mediocre chode purgatory

Only half, eh?

Not the half that you're a worshipper, shurely.

You find the "noble Vlad" inspiring and hope to learn the path he trod so you can be a bit like he.

You find the "noble Netanyahu" inspiring and hope to learn the path he trod so you can be a bit like he.

You find the "noble Don" inspiring, and on and on and on.

Two of these inspirers are wanted for crimes against humanity. One's about to be sentenced for 47 felonies, but do you know?

You find the "noble Desanctis" inspiring and hope to learn the path he trod.

Easy peasy. Your other inspiration crushed him like a cockroach. Desanctis hasn't recovered since.

Ron D for 2028, no?

if you cant find trumps story inspiring, then carry on for the next 4 yrs of 'opportunity cost"
that will be 12 years or about 20 % of your life devoted to nonsense .

think of what else you could have achieved?

even playing candy crush for 12 years is a more meaningful pursuit  :'( :'(

Karnal wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 6:16pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 5:44pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 5:35pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 11:36am: Karnal wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 11:00am: And here we have you, posing the brave new alternative to facts: the Joe Rogan Experience. There is a sense of manic religiosity to this blind belief in new media podcasting... Like the start of the Seventh Day Adventists, for example, as if, in lieu of Jesus returning to earth, podcasting will usher in an era of absolute truth-telling by October 22, 2025. There is a sense of manic religiosity in all of Aquascoot's posts. The devotion to Stephen Covey, Zuby, Desanctis, DL, Joe Rogan and now, with his reference to cucks and incels, Andrew Tate, is cult-like in its fervour. If only he would stick to one Dear Leader. He's even had us bowing down before our fridges to weep tears of pure gratitude for our whitegoods. He changed his tune when somebody pointed out that the fridge was a communist invention. He subsequently turned his devotion over to vaccines, then off vaccines, and on and off various DLs, as you do. He's been on and off the Israelis - loved the bombing of Gaza, not so hot on Zionism (too secular and leftist), but do you know? The one icon in Aquascoot's manic religiousity remains intact: Vlad. Aquascoot has been a worshipper from day one. Some things never change, no? 1/2 of that is made up but we should study 'superior men' i find "superior men" inspiring and hope to learn the path they trod so i can be a bit like them you find superior men a threat to your ego , so you go for a little hit of dopamine by telling yourself 'trump is a loser, he has small hands or a mushroom tip or he has to pay for sex from malenia' this says nothing about trump and everything about you and gweg you are very insecure and have to try to drag down successful people so you dont slit your wrists own the fact that you are a little worm and then try to be less worm like studying your superiors (smug intellectuals find it hard to acknowledge anyone is superior to them ::))   is you path out of mediocre chode purgatory Only half, eh? Not the half that you're a worshipper, shurely. You find the "noble Vlad" inspiring and hope to learn the path he trod so you can be a bit like he. You find the "noble Netanyahu" inspiring and hope to learn the path he trod so you can be a bit like he. You find the "noble Don" inspiring, and on and on and on. Two of these inspirers are wanted for crimes against humanity. One's about to be sentenced for 47 felonies, but do you know? You find the "noble Desanctis" inspiring and hope to learn the path he trod. Easy peasy. Your other inspiration crushed him like a cockroach. Desanctis hasn't recovered since. Ron D for 2028, no?

Why don't you TDS kids think of or say something relevant?

What's the obsession with being totally beside the point? You have been for years, as was Biden and Harris. They are gone. But you are still here, still grimacing, still carrying on like it's 1980.

its crazy indeed frank

karmal actually thinks he's doing better in life then ron de santis

the definition of cognitive dissonance

gweg and karnal continue to post as if trump is some sort of loser

even the deluded chicks on the view said they would have to have a good hard look at themselves in the mirror

but not our resident village idiots  ;D ;D

aquascoot wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 7:15pm:

its crazy indeed frank karmal actually thinks he's doing better in life then ron de santis the definition of cognitive dissonance gweg and karnal continue to post as if trump is some sort of loser even the deluded chicks on the view said they would have to have a good hard look at themselves in the mirror but not our resident village idiots  ;D ;D

It's the karnal/gweggy ****wittery - the Big Media, Big Government agit prop -  for eight years that has led to Trump sweeping the boards.

Is our TDS children learning, as the poet Bush might have asked? No. They carry on like they are still at uni in the 70s, sad old wispy pony tailed old comrades moaning, moaning.

Karnal wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 5:35pm:

There is a sense of manic religiosity in all of Aquascoot's posts. The devotion to Stephen Covey, Zuby, Desanctis, DL, Joe Rogan and now, with his reference to cucks and incels, Andrew Tate, is cult-like in its fervour. If only he would stick to one Dear Leader. Aquascoot's even had us bowing down before our fridges to weep tears of pure gratitude for our whitegoods. He changed his tune when somebody pointed out that the fridge was a communist invention. He subsequently turned his devotion over to vaccines, then off vaccines, and on and off various DLs, as you do. Aquascoot's been on and off the Israelis - loved the bombing of Gaza, not so hot on Zionism (too secular and leftist), but do you know? The one icon in Aquascoot's manic religiousity remains intact: Vlad. Aquascoot has been a Putin worshipper from day one. Some things never change, no?

Yep, well... He's not alone.

Although the way you put it sounds more like Pythonesque manic religiosity!

Is Rogan the Messiah?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HB7zqP9QNo

Frank wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 7:10pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 6:16pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 5:44pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 5:35pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 11:36am: Karnal wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 11:00am: And here we have you, posing the brave new alternative to facts: the Joe Rogan Experience. There is a sense of manic religiosity to this blind belief in new media podcasting... Like the start of the Seventh Day Adventists, for example, as if, in lieu of Jesus returning to earth, podcasting will usher in an era of absolute truth-telling by October 22, 2025. There is a sense of manic religiosity in all of Aquascoot's posts. The devotion to Stephen Covey, Zuby, Desanctis, DL, Joe Rogan and now, with his reference to cucks and incels, Andrew Tate, is cult-like in its fervour. If only he would stick to one Dear Leader. He's even had us bowing down before our fridges to weep tears of pure gratitude for our whitegoods. He changed his tune when somebody pointed out that the fridge was a communist invention. He subsequently turned his devotion over to vaccines, then off vaccines, and on and off various DLs, as you do. He's been on and off the Israelis - loved the bombing of Gaza, not so hot on Zionism (too secular and leftist), but do you know? The one icon in Aquascoot's manic religiousity remains intact: Vlad. Aquascoot has been a worshipper from day one. Some things never change, no? 1/2 of that is made up but we should study 'superior men' i find "superior men" inspiring and hope to learn the path they trod so i can be a bit like them you find superior men a threat to your ego , so you go for a little hit of dopamine by telling yourself 'trump is a loser, he has small hands or a mushroom tip or he has to pay for sex from malenia' this says nothing about trump and everything about you and gweg you are very insecure and have to try to drag down successful people so you dont slit your wrists own the fact that you are a little worm and then try to be less worm like studying your superiors (smug intellectuals find it hard to acknowledge anyone is superior to them ::))   is you path out of mediocre chode purgatory Only half, eh? Not the half that you're a worshipper, shurely. You find the "noble Vlad" inspiring and hope to learn the path he trod so you can be a bit like he. You find the "noble Netanyahu" inspiring and hope to learn the path he trod so you can be a bit like he. You find the "noble Don" inspiring, and on and on and on. Two of these inspirers are wanted for crimes against humanity. One's about to be sentenced for 47 felonies, but do you know? You find the "noble Desanctis" inspiring and hope to learn the path he trod. Easy peasy. Your other inspiration crushed him like a cockroach. Desanctis hasn't recovered since. Ron D for 2028, no? Why don't you TDS kids think of or say something relevant? What's the obsession with being totally beside the point? You have been for years, as was Biden and Harris. They are gone. But you are still here, still grimacing, still carrying on like it's 1980.

Shurely shome mishtake. Aquascoot was worshiping Joh back in 1980. You wouldn't know who he is, dear.

You were eating rollmops, attending Lutheran Church picnics and enjoying your marvellous Danish democracy.

It is a jolly world, no?

aquascoot wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 7:15pm:

its crazy indeed frank karmal actually thinks he's doing better in life then ron de santis the definition of cognitive dissonance gweg and karnal continue to post as if trump is some sort of loser even the deluded chicks on the view said they would have to have a good hard look at themselves in the mirror but not our resident village idiots  ;D ;D

You clearly view success as a zero sum game, dear.

Read your Stephen Covey. You forgot the win-win.

A win for your DL is chilling in Mar a Lago, playing golf and banging his hot babe wife, Melania. How do we know?

You said.

Alas, rather than heading off to jail to enjoy his martyrdom, he opted for four years in the White House waging trade wars, vengeance and mass deportations.

He really should have read those emails you sent him. Did you remember to mark them Important?

I'm sure the grandkids gave you clear instructions on how to use Gmail, no?

Karnal wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 10:21pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 7:15pm: its crazy indeed frank karmal actually thinks he's doing better in life then ron de santis the definition of cognitive dissonance gweg and karnal continue to post as if trump is some sort of loser even the deluded chicks on the view said they would have to have a good hard look at themselves in the mirror but not our resident village idiots  ;D ;D You clearly view success as a zero sum game, dear. Read your Stephen Covey. You forgot the win-win.

;D ;D ;D  Look who's miffed!!   ;D ;D

It is you, grimacing TDS kids, who cannot bear to face that Trump has succeeded.

For 8 + years you mongs have treated his every success as your loss and every set-back as your personal triumph to gloat over.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 5:44pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 5:35pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 11:36am: Karnal wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 11:00am: And here we have you, posing the brave new alternative to facts: the Joe Rogan Experience. There is a sense of manic religiosity to this blind belief in new media podcasting... Like the start of the Seventh Day Adventists, for example, as if, in lieu of Jesus returning to earth, podcasting will usher in an era of absolute truth-telling by October 22, 2025. There is a sense of manic religiosity in all of Aquascoot's posts. The devotion to Stephen Covey, Zuby, Desanctis, DL, Joe Rogan and now, with his reference to cucks and incels, Andrew Tate, is cult-like in its fervour. If only he would stick to one Dear Leader. He's even had us bowing down before our fridges to weep tears of pure gratitude for our whitegoods. He changed his tune when somebody pointed out that the fridge was a communist invention. He subsequently turned his devotion over to vaccines, then off vaccines, and on and off various DLs, as you do. He's been on and off the Israelis - loved the bombing of Gaza, not so hot on Zionism (too secular and leftist), but do you know? The one icon in Aquascoot's manic religiousity remains intact: Vlad. Aquascoot has been a worshipper from day one. Some things never change, no? 1/2 of that is made up but we should study 'superior men' i find "superior men" inspiring and hope to learn the path they trod so i can be a bit like them you find superior men a threat to your ego , so you go for a little hit of dopamine by telling yourself 'trump is a loser, he has small hands or a mushroom tip or he has to pay for sex from malenia' this says nothing about trump and everything about you and gweg you are very insecure and have to try to drag down successful people so you dont slit your wrists own the fact that you are a little worm and then try to be less worm like studying your superiors (smug intellectuals find it hard to acknowledge anyone is superior to them ::))   is you path out of mediocre chode purgatory

I actually feel really sorry for you, Horseboy. Look at the flimsy, meaningless things you idolise!

All this talk of "superior men" is just obscene ... not to mention a little cloying. I've never in my life categorised one person as superior over another. I look for positive markers in all of the people i meet. Some of the people who've had the most profound effect on me haven't had a cent to their name ... but they are well loved.

Not to mention the way you dismiss women as mere acquisitions.

You're incredibly immature. You lapse into gushing fan boi-ism over men who acquire beyond their means and do so by absolutely shitting on everyone on the way up. You value cold-blooded, mercenary consumerism. The more blatent the better.

Are your daughters, or your wife, aware of how you value women to be commodities? Not imbued with the nature to excel but to merely acquiesce and compliment?

Beyond sickeningly and absolutely tone-deaf to the world you're preparing to vacate, you credit the accumulation of women as a positive attribute. Yet you claim you have daughters? You pimp rapists and sex traffickers because they are hyper-masculine ... to your distorted world view.

Let me tell what i value, Horseboy. What i see as the signs of a truly great human being who has not wasted their time here; compassion, curiosity, love, kindness, generosity, humility, humanity.

Not a one of your heroes hold true to any of those qualities. Believe me when i tell you that you telling me the felons and malignant narcissists you worship are very much inferior men.

And it is because of useful idiots like yourself that they ar given free rein to rape not only women and girls but the whole damn world.

You keep gushing over them ... the true heroes will continue to mop up the selfish, overindulgent messes you lot make.

mothra wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 7:41am:

What i see as the signs of a truly great human being who has not wasted their time here; compassion, curiosity, love, kindness, generosity, humility, humanity.

So discipline, determination, courage, confidence, resolve, don't figure?

No robust sense of humour?

Humanity? What does that mean?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 7:56am:

mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 7:41am: What i see as the signs of a truly great human being who has not wasted their time here; compassion, curiosity, love, kindness, generosity, humility, humanity. So discipline, determination, courage, confidence, resolve, don't figure? No robust sense of humour? Humanity? What does that mean?

Oh my god, you're nit-picking because i didn't include every possible positive attribute?

As i said the other day, you're very disappointing.

I think my point stand just fine.

Maybe someone will be along soon to throw the ball back to you?

mothra wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 8:00am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 7:56am: mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 7:41am: What i see as the signs of a truly great human being who has not wasted their time here; compassion, curiosity, love, kindness, generosity, humility, humanity. So discipline, determination, courage, confidence, resolve, don't figure? No robust sense of humour? Humanity? What does that mean? Oh my god, you're nit-picking because i didn't include every possible positive attribute? As i said the other day, you're very disappointing. I think my point stand just fine. Maybe someone will be along soon to throw the ball back to you?

Sure, your virtues have value...

Your defense of them is neurotically volatile, but.

Are virtues of discipline, determination, courage, confidence, resolve and humour not worthy of being included in your list?

How about a sense of respect? Not worthy?

And chucking in 'humanity' which, if questioned, you'll smear sh!t on the walls and storm out... 'cos y'know everyone should know what you mean by it.

The human condition is complex... humanity is complex...

It's also human to be resentful, vindictive, neurotic...

What do you mean by humanity?

Hey mieter

Did you find the way mothra just interacted with you  revealed her underlying love for you ,kindness towards you. compassion for you and her deep humility

aquascoot wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 8:30am:

Hey mieter Did you find the way mothra just interacted with you  revealed her underlying love for you ,kindness towards you. compassion for you and her deep humility

She revealed her humanity!

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 8:07am:

mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:00am: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 7:56am: mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 7:41am: What i see as the signs of a truly great human being who has not wasted their time here; compassion, curiosity, love, kindness, generosity, humility, humanity. So discipline, determination, courage, confidence, resolve, don't figure? No robust sense of humour? Humanity? What does that mean? Oh my god, you're nit-picking because i didn't include every possible positive attribute? As i said the other day, you're very disappointing. I think my point stand just fine. Maybe someone will be along soon to throw the ball back to you? Sure, your virtues have value... Your defense of them is neurotically volatile, but. Are virtues of discipline, determination, courage, confidence, resolve and humour not worthy of being included in your list? How about a sense of respect? Not worthy? And chucking in 'humanity' which, if questioned, you'll smear sh!t on the walls and storm out... 'cos y'know everyone should know what you mean by it. The human condition is complex... humanity is complex... It's also human to be resentful, vindictive, neurotic... What do you mean by humanity?

Knit picking. And utterly unworthy of debate.

I'm not here for mootless bunfights, Ecky. You've no end of contenders for that.

I'm not interested though.

If you'd like to make an intelligent point that isn't just regurgitation of facts you poorly understand, then i'll tap on your shoulder. 'k?

aquascoot wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 8:30am:

Hey mieter Did you find the way mothra just interacted with you  revealed her underlying love for you ,kindness towards you. compassion for you and her deep humility

Where was it lacking it?

mothra wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 7:41am:

I've never in my life categorised one person as superior over another. I look for positive markers in all of the people I meet. BUT, BUT, BUT... .... You are incredibly immature. You lapse into gushing fan boi-ism over men who acquire beyond their means and do so by absolutely shitting on everyone on the way up. You value cold-blooded, mercenary consumerism. The more blatent the better. ...... Beyond sickeningly and absoltely tone-deaf to the world you're preparing to vacate, you credit the accumulation of women as a positive attribute. Yet you claim you have daughters? You pimp rapists and sex traffickers because they are hyper-masculine ... to your distorted world view. ..... the felons and malignant narcissists you worship are very much inferior men. And it is because of useful idiots like yourself that they ar given free rein to rape not only women and girls but the whole damn world. You keep gushing over them ... the true heroes will continue to mop up the selfish, overindulgent messes you lot make.

:D :D :D :D :D



You total lack of insight into your own seething, broken inadequacies is matched only by your oceanic vanity and self-indulgence.

You open with lying, self-deluding vanity -  'I've never in my life categorised one person as superior over another' - and immediately (and invariably) follow it with sustained neurotic snarling about the inferior moral and mental status of another.

mothra wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 8:34am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:07am: mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:00am: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 7:56am: mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 7:41am: What i see as the signs of a truly great human being who has not wasted their time here; compassion, curiosity, love, kindness, generosity, humility, humanity. So discipline, determination, courage, confidence, resolve, don't figure? No robust sense of humour? Humanity? What does that mean? Oh my god, you're nit-picking because i didn't include every possible positive attribute? As i said the other day, you're very disappointing. I think my point stand just fine. Maybe someone will be along soon to throw the ball back to you? Sure, your virtues have value... Your defense of them is neurotically volatile, but. Are virtues of discipline, determination, courage, confidence, resolve and humour not worthy of being included in your list? How about a sense of respect? Not worthy? And chucking in 'humanity' which, if questioned, you'll smear sh!t on the walls and storm out... 'cos y'know everyone should know what you mean by it. The human condition is complex... humanity is complex... It's also human to be resentful, vindictive, neurotic... What do you mean by humanity? Knit picking. And utterly unworthy of debate. I'm not here for mootless bunfights, Ecky. You've no end of contenders for that. I'm not interested though. If you'd like to make an intelligent point that isn't just regurgitation of facts you poorly understand, then i'll tap on your shoulder. 'k?

Yep... Smearing sh!t on the walls...

Neuroticly volatile.

So, no idea what you mean by humanity, eh!

Frank wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 8:37am:

mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 7:41am: I've never in my life categorised one person as superior over another. I look for positive markers in all of the people I meet. BUT, BUT, BUT... .... You are incredibly immature. You lapse into gushing fan boi-ism over men who acquire beyond their means and do so by absolutely shitting on everyone on the way up. You value cold-blooded, mercenary consumerism. The more blatent the better. ...... Beyond sickeningly and absoltely tone-deaf to the world you're preparing to vacate, you credit the accumulation of women as a positive attribute. Yet you claim you have daughters? You pimp rapists and sex traffickers because they are hyper-masculine ... to your distorted world view. ..... the felons and malignant narcissists you worship are very much inferior men. And it is because of useful idiots like yourself that they ar given free rein to rape not only women and girls but the whole damn world. You keep gushing over them ... the true heroes will continue to mop up the selfish, overindulgent messes you lot make. :D :D :D :D :D You total lack of insight into your own seething, broken inadequacies is matched only by your oceanic vanity and self-indulgence. You open with lying, self-deluding vanity -  'I've never in my life categorised one person as superior over another' - and immediately (and invariably) follow it with sustained neurotic snarling about the inferior moral and mental status of another.

I'm immensely sorry for you that you are unable to differentiate critique with hierarchy.

The value you yourself place on the latter exudes through all of your writings. It is your very MO.

And there are simply a whole bunch of people you consider yourself superior to and they, mostly, are tinted.

Am i wrong?

mothra wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 8:34am:

utterly unworthy of debate.

Every, always, utterly, never...

What do 'they' say about those who regularly use them?

mothra wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 8:40am:

Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:37am: mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 7:41am: I've never in my life categorised one person as superior over another. I look for positive markers in all of the people I meet. BUT, BUT, BUT... .... You are incredibly immature. You lapse into gushing fan boi-ism over men who acquire beyond their means and do so by absolutely shitting on everyone on the way up. You value cold-blooded, mercenary consumerism. The more blatent the better. ...... Beyond sickeningly and absoltely tone-deaf to the world you're preparing to vacate, you credit the accumulation of women as a positive attribute. Yet you claim you have daughters? You pimp rapists and sex traffickers because they are hyper-masculine ... to your distorted world view. ..... the felons and malignant narcissists you worship are very much inferior men. And it is because of useful idiots like yourself that they ar given free rein to rape not only women and girls but the whole damn world. You keep gushing over them ... the true heroes will continue to mop up the selfish, overindulgent messes you lot make. :D :D :D :D :D You total lack of insight into your own seething, broken inadequacies is matched only by your oceanic vanity and self-indulgence. You open with lying, self-deluding vanity -  'I've never in my life categorised one person as superior over another' - and immediately (and invariably) follow it with sustained neurotic snarling about the inferior moral and mental status of another. I'm immensely sorry for you that you are unable to differentiate critique with hierarchy. The value you yourself place on the latter exudes through all of your writings. It is your very MO. And there are simply a whole bunch of people you consider yourself superior to and they, mostly, are tinted. Am i wrong?

Of corse you are. Completely.

Critique is evaluation - ie weighing up of values, qualities. Qualities, not being equal like quantities, are hierarchical. Some things are better than others. You make value judgements every minute, like all of us. It is not a moral failing, it is an inevitable part of human life. Only an idiot would insist that she is above(!) hierarchical value judgements. There isn't any other kind. Hierarchy, taxonomy, classification, categories, values, worth - it is the order of things.

I am not the one preening about not making value judgements about superiority and inferiority and then immediately go on making just such judgements.

Frank wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 9:22am:

I am not the one preening about not making value judgements about superiority and inferiority and then immediately go on making just such judgements.

But of course you are! It's all you ever do!

Day in and day out. For multiples of years now.

You value North Western European everything over all things. Failure to adhere to these characteristics is considered by you to be failing to assimilate.

When pressed (and in truth, one need barely wave something in your general direction to invoke this response) you moan vitriolically and obsessively about the tinted races having absolutely no worth whatsoever and only srving to bring us mayhem.

Do you actually deny this?

I guess forbearance is a necessary virtue.

Neurotic volatility is ineradicable - neuroticism being a stable personality trait.

The 'always, never, every, utterly, absolutely' personality types will breed, so...

mothra wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 9:40am:

Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:22am: I am not the one preening about not making value judgements about superiority and inferiority and then immediately go on making just such judgements. But of course you are! It's all you ever do! Day in and day out. For multiples of years now. You value North Western European everything over all things. Failure to adhere to these characteristics is considered by you to be failing to assimilate. When pressed (and in truth, one need barely wave something in your general direction to invoke this response) you moan vitriolically and obsessively about the tinted races having absolutely no worth whatsoever and only srving to bring us mayhem. Do you actually deny this?

;D ;D ;D

You didn't understand that sentence, did you??  It is one with what they call contrasting clauses. You need to read the two clauses together.


I am not the one preening about not making value judgements about superiority and inferiority and then immediately go on making just such judgements.




Lemme guess. You are about as highly educated as Bbwiyawn. He is more highly educated than most here.

Frank wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 9:50am:

mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:40am: Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:22am: I am not the one preening about not making value judgements about superiority and inferiority and then immediately go on making just such judgements. But of course you are! It's all you ever do! Day in and day out. For multiples of years now. You value North Western European everything over all things. Failure to adhere to these characteristics is considered by you to be failing to assimilate. When pressed (and in truth, one need barely wave something in your general direction to invoke this response) you moan vitriolically and obsessively about the tinted races having absolutely no worth whatsoever and only srving to bring us mayhem. Do you actually deny this? ;D ;D ;D You didn't understand that sentence, did you??  It is one with what they call contrasting clauses. You need to read the two clauses together. I am not the one preening about not making value judgements about superiority and inferiority and then immediately go on making just such judgements. Lemme guess. You are about as highly educated as Bbwiyawn. He is more highly educated than most here.

Do think.

Where have i ever claimed one sort of person is superior over another?

Please don't try to judge me by your own standards. I don't even recognise you outside of some kind of historical horror.

mothra wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 9:57am:

Please don't try to judge me by your own standards. I don't even recognise you outside of some kind of historical horror.

Too easy, Frank...

Remember kindness, love, and... 'humanity'...

mothra wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 9:57am:

Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:50am: mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:40am: Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:22am: I am not the one preening about not making value judgements about superiority and inferiority and then immediately go on making just such judgements. But of course you are! It's all you ever do! Day in and day out. For multiples of years now. You value North Western European everything over all things. Failure to adhere to these characteristics is considered by you to be failing to assimilate. When pressed (and in truth, one need barely wave something in your general direction to invoke this response) you moan vitriolically and obsessively about the tinted races having absolutely no worth whatsoever and only srving to bring us mayhem. Do you actually deny this? ;D ;D ;D You didn't understand that sentence, did you??  It is one with what they call contrasting clauses. You need to read the two clauses together. I am not the one preening about not making value judgements about superiority and inferiority and then immediately go on making just such judgements. Lemme guess. You are about as highly educated as Bbwiyawn. He is more highly educated than most here. Do think. Where have i ever claimed one sort of person is superior over another? Please don't try to judge me by your own standards. I don't even recognise you outside of some kind of historical horror.

Here, you claimed soaring superiorito, as I explained to you.
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1732503613/85#85


Historical horror? Is that equal to or better than how you see yourself?

What standards should I judge you by?



Your mind is so thoroughly ****ed by social justice theories that you really, really lost the ability for even basic self-reflection and awareness. It is quite amazing and amusing. The manechian view of your wonderfully good, non-judgemental self versus the historic horrors, the rape worshipping evil wannabe destroyers of all that is good and nobel in a non-superior kind of betterness.

Bbwian yawns because he is too stupid to say anything. You are too stupid, so you spout verbose self-contradictory crap.  You complement each other like Siamese twins.

Frank wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 10:13am:

mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:57am: Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:50am: mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:40am: Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:22am: I am not the one preening about not making value judgements about superiority and inferiority and then immediately go on making just such judgements. But of course you are! It's all you ever do! Day in and day out. For multiples of years now. You value North Western European everything over all things. Failure to adhere to these characteristics is considered by you to be failing to assimilate. When pressed (and in truth, one need barely wave something in your general direction to invoke this response) you moan vitriolically and obsessively about the tinted races having absolutely no worth whatsoever and only srving to bring us mayhem. Do you actually deny this? ;D ;D ;D You didn't understand that sentence, did you??  It is one with what they call contrasting clauses. You need to read the two clauses together. I am not the one preening about not making value judgements about superiority and inferiority and then immediately go on making just such judgements. Lemme guess. You are about as highly educated as Bbwiyawn. He is more highly educated than most here. Do think. Where have i ever claimed one sort of person is superior over another? Please don't try to judge me by your own standards. I don't even recognise you outside of some kind of historical horror. Here, you claimed soaring superiorito, as I explained to you. https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1732503613/85#85 Historical horror? Is that equal to or better than how you see yourself? What standards should I judge you by? Your mind is so thoroughly ****ed by social justice theories that you really, really lost the ability for even basic self-reflection and awareness. It is quite amazing and amusing. The manechian view of your wonderfully good, non-judgemental self versus the historic horrors, the rape worshipping evil wannabe destroyers of all that is good and nobel in a non-superior kind of betterness. Bbwian yawns because he is too stupid to say anything. You are too stupid, so you spout verbose self-contradictory crap.  You complement each other like Siamese twins.

What is this utter fantasy? What bewildered world infuses your assertions?

It's the historical horrors that infuse me. I read the history books. I learned to understand how malignant narcissists,  and other associated ne'er do wells have come to infest those very history pages with the very cults of personality i'm seeing today.

You know, blind adherence?

You meanwhile, while clapping along and wearing the T-shirt, screech hysterically at academia and cultural Marxism.

One could say it's horse for courses.


You, like Horseboy, like your heroes to be bigoted, selfish, self-indulgant, greedy, cowardly, aggressive, entitled, privileged, rapist felons without a shred of humanity.

You like them because they meet your metric for success.

I like other kinds of people. I value them more highly. This does not translate into "superior" and "inferior". We'll leave that for Horseboy and hos chodes Fat Steve and Fat Janine living lives of pure garbage.

Do you think Steve and Janine voted for Trump?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 10:00am:

mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:57am: Please don't try to judge me by your own standards. I don't even recognise you outside of some kind of historical horror. Too easy, Frank... Remember kindness, love, and... 'humanity'...

Wanna learn something? Like, actually learn something?



humanity
noun
hu·​man·​i·​ty hyü-ˈma-nə-tē
yü-
plural humanities
Synonyms of humanity
1
: compassionate, sympathetic, or generous behavior or disposition : the quality or state of being humane
bespeaking humanity for the enemy in the midst of a bloody struggle—

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/humanity

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 25^th, 2024 at 1:00pm:

I know Joe Rogan is only a commentator and former fighter, but he's clearly had one too many blows to his thick, empty head. He seems to think that President Zelensky is pushing the world closer to World War III simply because he has the audacity to defend the sovereignty of his country from the invading Russian military under that dictator Putin, and that President Biden is also helping push us toward this calamity by providing Ukraine with the means to defend themselves. Sure, Rogan isn't the sharpest knife in the draw - we all knew this already, especially when he backed Trump. But he clearly is a smacking moron given his line of thinking here! Ukraine did not start a war with Russia, it was the other way around. Russia illegally annexed Crimea in 2014 and are now trying to take the entire country. Zelensky has every right to defend his country and his people from Putin, and Biden is absolutely doing the right thing by giving him the means to do so, as are a multitude of other western nations - including Australia. Rogan needs to stick to calling stupid, pointless UFC fights and leave foreign policy to the grown-ups. https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/joe-rogan-rants-against-biden-zelensky-for-trying-to-start-world-war-iii/news-story/1bf0866a98f600bddcffe4e2d8066527

Armchair, I'm not in the habit of defending Conservative shock-jocks - their Conservatism is fatally flawed. 

But in the absence of effective international law under the auspices of the UN which was supposed "to save mankind from the scourge of war" - in the age of MAD, no less - then I'll settle for the guy in charge of the Pentagon (the repository of the world's mightiest military force) IF that guy has anti-war instincts, like Trump.

Rogan is merely jumping on the Trump bandwagon, faced with Russia's nuclear capability, and the cost of supporting NATO against Russia.   I doubt whether thick-head Rogan  was against the Vietnam war, Iraq war or any other war....

I want Trump to pick up the phone to Putin (Trump is one of the few people in the world who can do it), and say: "we gotta end this war, I'm not interested in spending  US money on NATO, let's get this done today.

And btw, stop Russia's descent  into poverty and failed state status, as even China and India are not interested in supporting you any longer in this war."

Meanwhile thickheads like Biden and the EU leadership  are happy to "fight to protect democracy" against the 2nd most powerful nuclear arsenal, in the age of MAD.

LIke Trump (and Putin), I think such "democracy" is a threat to human survival on this planet. 

But Trump is on notice: stop the war soon,  or be exposed as merely another gutless wind bag (though with an authoritarian - as opposed to "democratic" - bent..)

Trump has the most powerful, technologically advanced military in the world, he CAN use it to stop wars from even  starting, as he said he would.      

Another appeaser! YUCK!

mothra wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 10:34am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 10:00am: mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:57am: Please don't try to judge me by your own standards. I don't even recognise you outside of some kind of historical horror. Too easy, Frank... Remember kindness, love, and... 'humanity'... Wanna learn something? Like, actually learn something? humanity noun hu·​man·​i·​ty hyü-ˈma-nə-tē yü- plural humanities Synonyms of humanity 1 : compassionate, sympathetic, or generous behavior or disposition : the quality or state of being humane bespeaking humanity for the enemy in the midst of a bloody struggle— https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/humanity

2: the quality or state of being human.

'Human, All Too Human'

Includes the neurotically volatile.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 11:10am:

mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 10:34am: MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 10:00am: mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:57am: Please don't try to judge me by your own standards. I don't even recognise you outside of some kind of historical horror. Too easy, Frank... Remember kindness, love, and... 'humanity'... Wanna learn something? Like, actually learn something? humanity noun hu·​man·​i·​ty hyü-ˈma-nə-tē yü- plural humanities Synonyms of humanity 1 : compassionate, sympathetic, or generous behavior or disposition : the quality or state of being humane bespeaking humanity for the enemy in the midst of a bloody struggle— https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/humanity 2: the quality or state of being human. 'Human, All Too Human' Includes the neurotically volatile.

Doesn't everything?

mothra wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 10:28am:

I learned to understand how malignant narcissists,  and other associated ne'er do wells have come to infest those very history pages with the very cults of personality i'm seeing today.

Ah, yep! DEI officers...

What to do? You can't kill 'em...

Weed them out one by one in a 5-year plan, I guess.

mothra wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 10:34am:

Remember kindness, love, and... 'humanity'...

But humans (you and me, all of us)  are self-interested pricks, as well as being aware of - and sometimes even attracted to - concepts like  morality, justice and fairness (which don't exist in nature's survival of the fittest slaughterhouse)....so you can see we - being schizophrenic (alternately greedy and loving, as it suits us)  - have a problem.

In the absence of effective international law, democracy will lead us to extinction  even under law supposedly designed to engender morality, justice and fairness, because of the absurd concept of "legal" war, promoted by schizophrenic lawyers asserting the absurd concept of "legal" war  - hence the peace- crippling veto in the UNSC. 



Quote:

Wanna learn something? Like, actually learn something? humanity noun hu·​man·​i·​ty hyü-ˈma-nə-tē yü- plural humanities Synonyms of humanity 1 : compassionate, sympathetic, or generous behavior or disposition : the quality or state of being humane bespeaking humanity for the enemy in the midst of a bloody struggle— https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/humanity

The defintion omitted: humans...."also deluded "freedom values"/"self-interested a**holes, who fight devastating wars to "protect democracy"".....

The countless young soldiers lives lost, forget civilians....

Hence the catastrophe of our beautiful world ruined by entrenched  poverty and endless war. 

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 11:18am:

mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 10:34am: Remember kindness, love, and... 'humanity'... But humans are self-interest pricks,

If you don't say so, yourself.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 11:22am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 11:18am: mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 10:34am: Remember kindness, love, and... 'humanity'... But humans are self-interest pricks, If you don't say so, yourself.

Ah poor Meister,  read my edit -  you and I  are included....

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 11:04am:

Another appeaser! YUCK!

Who? Trump an "appeaser"?

Compared with the ugliest of all delusional "freedom  fighters for democracy"....like Churchill who should be rotting in hell - he could have spent all his energy taking out Hitler - even brave German citizens acting alone gave it a go  ...though Churchill was fighting BEFORE the concept of international law "to save mankind from the scourge of war" was posited by delegates at the creation of the UN, driven by the image of that mushroom cloud over Hiroshima searing their brains....

But you have no such excuse, so make sure YOU don't deserve to be rotting in hell....

"All must abide by rule of law, for all to be free". Cicero

Hairy-chested Monk, and 'freedom values' Meister - both don't want to expose  their mental incompetence, and have disappeared.

Step one to a better world,  ban war. Step two, eradicate poverty.

What's stopping our elected leaders? Ourselves?

Frank wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 9:50am:

I am not the one preening about not making value judgements about superiority and inferiority and then immediately go on making just such judgements.

Gawd Frank....so is Rogan a moron for supporting Trump's anti-war stance?

Presumably not: but only if it's Trump who is in charge of the Pentagon? ...you aren't thinking it through. 

What happens when someone else - eg a "democratic freedom fighter" like Biden is in charge of the Pentagon?

A descent into WW3, in the age of MAD?

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 12:22pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:50am: I am not the one preening about not making value judgements about superiority and inferiority and then immediately go on making just such judgements. Gawd Frank....so is Rogan a moron for supporting Trump's anti-war stance?

I was talking to Mothra about Mothra, Bbbwian. 
Scram.

mothra wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 10:28am:

Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 10:13am: mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:57am: Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:50am: mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:40am: [quote author=Frank lin But of course you are! It's all you ever do! Day in and day out. For multiples of years now. You value North Western European everything over all things. Failure to adhere to these characteristics is considered by you to be failing to assimilate. When pressed (and in truth, one need barely wave something in your general direction to invoke this response) you moan vitriolically and obsessively about the tinted races having absolutely no worth whatsoever and only srving to bring us mayhem. Do you actually deny this? ;D ;D ;D You didn't understand that sentence, did you??  It is one with what they call contrasting clauses. You need to read the two clauses together. I am not the one preening about not making value judgements about superiority and inferiority and then immediately go on making just such judgements. Lemme guess. You are about as highly educated as Bbwiyawn. He is more highly educated than most here. Do think. Where have i ever claimed one sort of person is superior over another? Please don't try to judge me by your own standards. I don't even recognise you outside of some kind of historical horror. Here, you claimed soaring superiorito, as I explained to you. https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1732503613/85#85 Historical horror? Is that equal to or better than how you see yourself? What standards should I judge you by? Your mind is so thoroughly ****ed by social justice theories that you really, really lost the ability for even basic self-reflection and awareness. It is quite amazing and amusing. The manechian view of your wonderfully good, non-judgemental self versus the historic horrors, the rape worshipping evil wannabe destroyers of all that is good and nobel in a non-superior kind of betterness. Bbwian yawns because he is too stupid to say anything. You are too stupid, so you spout verbose self-contradictory crap.  You complement each other like Siamese twins. What is this utter fantasy? What bewildered world infuses your assertions? It's the historical horrors that infuse me. I read the history books. I learned to understand how malignant narcissists,  and other associated ne'er do wells have come to infest those very history pages with the very cults of personality i'm seeing today. You know, blind adherence? You meanwhile, while clapping along and wearing the T-shirt, screech hysterically at academia and cultural Marxism. One could say it's horse for courses. You, like Horseboy, like your heroes to be bigoted, selfish, self-indulgant, greedy, cowardly, aggressive, entitled, privileged, rapist felons without a shred of humanity. You like them because they meet your metric for success. I like other kinds of people. I value them more highly. This does not translate into "superior" and "inferior". We'll leave that for Horseboy and hos chodes Fat Steve and Fat Janine living lives of pure garbage. Do you think Steve and Janine voted for Trump?

you misunderstand ( a common problem for you)

steve and janeen , stuck in the cultural hypnosis, eating maccas, watching netflix,getting fat, smoking pot,  bouncing out of bed and just trying to "cope" with the day.

i dont hate on them

i want to help them

i want more for them then to live in "cope-atopia"

now you (and you may be doing this from a place where you genuinely think you are being "good") think that they should be told they are victims of the system and that you and those like you will arrange a handout for them and then they cen be very grateful to you and you get to feel all warm and fuzzy and they get cash and they get to feel their sucky life  isnt their fault and this is a win/win.


wrong


if you study any of the great teachers they will tell you the worst thing you can do for anyone is to tell them they are a victim and then give them a handout

you rob them of agency, you rob them of legitimate self esteem, they cannot see opportunities that exist.  it is an amoral thing to do.


could i buy my kids all a house?
probably.

if i wanted to completely screw them from ever being able to be successful

people have to take personal responsibility for their lives.
you can encourage and be a good role model (and i see your emotional incontinence as anything but being a good role model)   but in the end they have to buy in and have personal agency

big government robs them of that agency

big government breaks their legs and then  offers them a crutch and tells them they should love big government for the crutch.

people know this

latinos voted for trump in record numbers , he increased his black vote, he increased his muslim vote

these are hard working people and they know lefty handouts and telling them they are victims of trumps racism is not going to help them

the left need to listen to what the people have said

they just want you and your type out of their lives

Frank wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 12:50pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 12:22pm: Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:50am: I am not the one preening about not making value judgements about superiority and inferiority and then immediately go on making just such judgements. Gawd Frank....so is Rogan a moron for supporting Trump's anti-war stance? I was talking to Mothra about Mothra, Bbbwian.  Scram.

Frank's done talking to Mother now, Brian.

Do you have any curious questions for him?

Frank wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 6:35am:

Karnal wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 10:21pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 7:15pm: its crazy indeed frank karmal actually thinks he's doing better in life then ron de santis the definition of cognitive dissonance gweg and karnal continue to post as if trump is some sort of loser even the deluded chicks on the view said they would have to have a good hard look at themselves in the mirror but not our resident village idiots  ;D ;D You clearly view success as a zero sum game, dear. Read your Stephen Covey. You forgot the win-win. ;D ;D ;D  Look who's miffed!!   ;D ;D It is you, grimacing TDS kids, who cannot bear to face that Trump has succeeded. For 8 + years you mongs have treated his every success as your loss and every set-back as your personal triumph to gloat over.

Success, is it?

I see. Which policy success do you credit your DL with, dear boy?

We look forward to you considered reply - in English if you wouldn't mind.

mothra wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 8:34am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:30am: Hey mieter Did you find the way mothra just interacted with you  revealed her underlying love for you ,kindness towards you. compassion for you and her deep humility Where was it lacking it?

Hard to say, Mother. Perhaps Aquascoot was looking for a response like this -


Quote:

You total lack of insight into your own seething, broken inadequacies is matched only by your oceanic vanity and self-indulgence. You open with lying, self-deluding vanity -  'I've never in my life categorised one person as superior over another' - and immediately (and invariably) follow it with sustained neurotic snarling about the inferior moral and mental status of another.

Frank wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 9:50am:

mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:40am: Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:22am: I am not the one preening about not making value judgements about superiority and inferiority and then immediately go on making just such judgements. But of course you are! It's all you ever do! Day in and day out. For multiples of years now. You value North Western European everything over all things. Failure to adhere to these characteristics is considered by you to be failing to assimilate. When pressed (and in truth, one need barely wave something in your general direction to invoke this response) you moan vitriolically and obsessively about the tinted races having absolutely no worth whatsoever and only srving to bring us mayhem. Do you actually deny this? ;D ;D ;D You didn't understand that sentence, did you??  It is one with what they call contrasting clauses. You need to read the two clauses together. I am not the one preening about not making value judgements about superiority and inferiority and then immediately go on making just such judgements. Lemme guess. You are about as highly educated as Bbwiyawn. He is more highly educated than most here.

I'm not seeing a denial from Frank here, Mother. It might help to further the debate here to enquire whether he's a naughty old racist.

Last time we tried, we received a long-winded dissertation on the topic of premises.

It's a little bit complicated, you see. Maybe try him again. He may feel more safe confiding in you, dear.

mothra wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 10:28am:

Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 10:13am: mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:57am: Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:50am: mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:40am: Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:22am: I am not the one preening about not making value judgements about superiority and inferiority and then immediately go on making just such judgements. But of course you are! It's all you ever do! Day in and day out. For multiples of years now. You value North Western European everything over all things. Failure to adhere to these characteristics is considered by you to be failing to assimilate. When pressed (and in truth, one need barely wave something in your general direction to invoke this response) you moan vitriolically and obsessively about the tinted races having absolutely no worth whatsoever and only srving to bring us mayhem. Do you actually deny this? ;D ;D ;D You didn't understand that sentence, did you??  It is one with what they call contrasting clauses. You need to read the two clauses together. I am not the one preening about not making value judgements about superiority and inferiority and then immediately go on making just such judgements. Lemme guess. You are about as highly educated as Bbwiyawn. He is more highly educated than most here. Do think. Where have i ever claimed one sort of person is superior over another? Please don't try to judge me by your own standards. I don't even recognise you outside of some kind of historical horror. Here, you claimed soaring superiorito, as I explained to you. https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1732503613/85#85 Historical horror? Is that equal to or better than how you see yourself? What standards should I judge you by? Your mind is so thoroughly ****ed by social justice theories that you really, really lost the ability for even basic self-reflection and awareness. It is quite amazing and amusing. The manechian view of your wonderfully good, non-judgemental self versus the historic horrors, the rape worshipping evil wannabe destroyers of all that is good and nobel in a non-superior kind of betterness. Bbwian yawns because he is too stupid to say anything. You are too stupid, so you spout verbose self-contradictory crap.  You complement each other like Siamese twins. What is this utter fantasy? What bewildered world infuses your assertions? It's the historical horrors that infuse me. I read the history books. I learned to understand how malignant narcissists,  and other associated ne'er do wells have come to infest those very history pages with the very cults of personality i'm seeing today. You know, blind adherence? You meanwhile, while clapping along and wearing the T-shirt, screech hysterically at academia and cultural Marxism. One could say it's horse for courses. You, like Horseboy, like your heroes to be bigoted, selfish, self-indulgant, greedy, cowardly, aggressive, entitled, privileged, rapist felons without a shred of humanity. You like them because they meet your metric for success. I like other kinds of people. I value them more highly. This does not translate into "superior" and "inferior". We'll leave that for Horseboy and hos chodes Fat Steve and Fat Janine living lives of pure garbage. Do you think Steve and Janine voted for Trump?

That's a tough one, Mother. I believe Joe Toolbox voted for the big fella.

Fat Steve and Janeen had to attend the DMV for something, so they may have missed it.

Marla was on shift that day, so the queue was slow, you see.

Elon can defund the DMV and have her fired.

VENGEANCE !!!

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 11:45am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 11:04am: Another appeaser! YUCK! Who? Trump an "appeaser"? Compared with the ugliest of all delusional "freedom  fighters for democracy"....like Churchill who should be rotting in hell - he could have spent all his energy taking out Hitler - even brave German citizens acting alone gave it a go  ...though Churchill was fighting BEFORE the concept of international law "to save mankind from the scourge of war" was posited by delegates at the creation of the UN, driven by the image of that mushroom cloud over Hiroshima searing their brains.... But you have no such excuse, so make sure YOU don't deserve to be rotting in hell.... "All must abide by rule of law, for all to be free". Cicero

No, you are an appeaser.

mothra wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 10:28am:

Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 10:13am: mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:57am: Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:50am: mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:40am: Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:22am: I am not the one preening about not making value judgements about superiority and inferiority and then immediately go on making just such judgements. But of course you are! It's all you ever do! Day in and day out. For multiples of years now. You value North Western European everything over all things. Failure to adhere to these characteristics is considered by you to be failing to assimilate. When pressed (and in truth, one need barely wave something in your general direction to invoke this response) you moan vitriolically and obsessively about the tinted races having absolutely no worth whatsoever and only srving to bring us mayhem. Do you actually deny this? ;D ;D ;D You didn't understand that sentence, did you??  It is one with what they call contrasting clauses. You need to read the two clauses together. I am not the one preening about not making value judgements about superiority and inferiority and then immediately go on making just such judgements. Lemme guess. You are about as highly educated as Bbwiyawn. He is more highly educated than most here. Do think. Where have i ever claimed one sort of person is superior over another? Please don't try to judge me by your own standards. I don't even recognise you outside of some kind of historical horror. Here, you claimed soaring superiorito, as I explained to you. https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1732503613/85#85 Historical horror? Is that equal to or better than how you see yourself? What standards should I judge you by? Your mind is so thoroughly ****ed by social justice theories that you really, really lost the ability for even basic self-reflection and awareness. It is quite amazing and amusing. The manechian view of your wonderfully good, non-judgemental self versus the historic horrors, the rape worshipping evil wannabe destroyers of all that is good and nobel in a non-superior kind of betterness. Bbwian yawns because he is too stupid to say anything. You are too stupid, so you spout verbose self-contradictory crap.  You complement each other like Siamese twins. What is this utter fantasy? What bewildered world infuses your assertions? It's the historical horrors that infuse me. I read the history books. I learned to understand how malignant narcissists,  and other associated ne'er do wells have come to infest those very history pages with the very cults of personality i'm seeing today. You know, blind adherence? You meanwhile, while clapping along and wearing the T-shirt, screech hysterically at academia and cultural Marxism. One could say it's horse for courses. You, like Horseboy, like your heroes to be bigoted, selfish, self-indulgant, greedy, cowardly, aggressive, entitled, privileged, rapist felons without a shred of humanity. You like them because they meet your metric for success. I like other kinds of people. I value them more highly. This does not translate into "superior" and "inferior". We'll leave that for Horseboy and hos chodes Fat Steve and Fat Janine living lives of pure garbage. Do you think Steve and Janine voted for Trump?

I've never in my life categorised one person as superior over another. I look for positive markers in all of the people I meet.


BUT, BUT, BUT...
....
You are incredibly immature. You lapse into gushing fan boi-ism over men who acquire beyond their means and do so by absolutely shitting on everyone on the way up. You value cold-blooded, mercenary consumerism. The more blatent the better.

......

Beyond sickeningly and absoltely tone-deaf to the world you're preparing to vacate, you credit the accumulation of women as a positive attribute. Yet you claim you have daughters? You pimp rapists and sex traffickers because they are hyper-masculine ... to your distorted world view.

.....
the felons and malignant narcissists you worship are very much inferior men.

And it is because of useful idiots like yourself that they ar given free rein to rape not only women and girls but the whole damn world.

You keep gushing over them ... the true heroes will continue to mop up the selfish, overindulgent messes you lot make.[/quote]

:D :D :D :D :D



You total lack of insight into your own seething, broken inadequacies is matched only by your oceanic vanity and self-indulgence.

You open with lying, self-deluding vanity -  'I've never in my life categorised one person as superior over another' - and immediately (and invariably) follow it with sustained neurotic snarling about the inferior moral and mental status of another.

I say, Mother, ask him if he's ever said he's superior to the tinted races in every way.

Laugh?

A throbbing Jigaboo and, er, inferior in every way.

Greggery?

An Unflushable Macedonian Turd and, you know, inferior in every way.

Moi?

A Pakistani Bastard, a Dirty Little Invert and, oh -

Inferior in every way.

And do you know? One doesn't even need to be tinted to join the despicable inferior tinted races. The old boy's not wacist, you see. He disagrees with the very pwemise.

You can see why the old boy would take such offence to any perceived signs of superiority.

As a proud white man, he's superior in every way, no?

Karnal wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 6:23pm:

I say, Mother, ask him if he's ever said he's superior to the tinted races in every way. Laugh? A throbbing Jigaboo and, er, inferior in every way. Greggery? An Unflushable Macedonian Turd and, you know, inferior in every way. Moi? A Pakistani Bastard, a Dirty Little Invert and, oh - Inferior in every way. And do you know? One doesn't even need to be tinted to join the despicable inferior tinted races. The old boy's not wacist, you see. He disagrees with the very pwemise. You can see why the old boy would take such offence to any perceived signs of superiority. As a proud white man, he's superior in every way, no?

You pretend to be as stupid as Mothra, Bbwian, Sad.


I have never pretended that there is no such thing as superiority, hierarchy, value judgement and the rest.

It is the po-faced social justice kids like Mothra, Bbwian, Sad who preen about never making themselves superior to anyone - who then in the same breath make hierarchical value judgements about everyone who doesn't accept their hierarchical value judgements.

You understand that but pretend not to. They are genuinely stupid and lack any self-defense. You are just cunning and dishonest.  Well, trying to be.

Quote:

Joe Rogan is a moron!

Correct.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 6:35pm:

Quote: Joe Rogan is a moron! Correct.

Oh!? You felt left out! So sorry, duckwit.


https://media1.tenor.com/m/9PfeY8SJNkcAAAAd/duck-wiggle.gif

Ban war? What sort of childish crap is that?

aquascoot wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 2:30pm:

if you study any of the great teachers they will tell you the worst thing you can do for anyone is to tell them they are a victim and then give them a handout you rob them of agency, you rob them of legitimate self esteem, they cannot see opportunities that exist.  it is an amoral thing to do.

Or, an even faster, more visceral lesson, is to see what happens to high-order primates, bears, large cats and other animals of high intelligence capacity when kept in zoos that provide an environment where they need not forage or hone their survival skills.

The same severe neurotic symptoms that humans develop: deep depression, withdrawal and volatility.

Repetitive rocking, continual pacing, self-harm, aggressive outbursts, over-eating, insanity, diseases...

The damaging effects of a life devoid of danger, risk and survival by self-effort are more than psychological, they're also biological, physiological and neurological.

The boss of one of Australia's largest media organisations has launched a bizarre attack on popular US podcaster Joe Rogan, arguing he was "deeply repulsive" and took advantage of "people's vulnerabilities".

The comments from ABC Chair Kim Williams, whose organisation receives more than $1.2 billion a year in taxpayer funding, were an attempt to distract from the fact his own organisation was struggling with significant drops in audience figures.

The national broadcaster recorded a 3.5 per cent decline across all platforms compared to last financial year, while the drops have been far worse in radio, forcing management to sack multiple hosts in a bid to revamp show formats.

Even though Mr Williams launched an inflammatory, and highly personal attack against Rogan, he confusingly stated he never watched the Joe Rogan Experience.

“I think that people like Mr Rogan prey on people's vulnerabilities. They prey on fear. They prey on anxiety,” he said.

“They prey on all of the elements that contribute to uncertainty in society, and they entrepreneur fantasy outcomes and conspiracy outcomes as being a normal part of social narrative.

"I personally find it deeply repulsive, and to think that someone has such remarkable power in the United States is something that I look at in disbelief.

"I am not a consumer or enthusiast about Mr Rogan and his work. I am not one of the three billion and I'm unlikely to be three billion and one anytime soon.


I never listen to the guy but I know....


Mothra, Bbwian, Sad, Duckshit, groggy, karnal, icky, zzzzzzz ...

Frank wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 7:29pm:

The boss of one of Australia's largest media organisations has launched a bizarre attack on popular US podcaster Joe Rogan, arguing he was "deeply repulsive" and took advantage of "people's vulnerabilities". The comments from ABC Chair Kim Williams, whose organisation receives more than $1.2 billion a year in taxpayer funding, were an attempt to distract from the fact his own organisation was struggling with significant drops in audience figures. The national broadcaster recorded a 3.5 per cent decline across all platforms compared to last financial year, while the drops have been far worse in radio, forcing management to sack multiple hosts in a bid to revamp show formats. Even though Mr Williams launched an inflammatory, and highly personal attack against Rogan, he confusingly stated he never watched the Joe Rogan Experience. “I think that people like Mr Rogan prey on people's vulnerabilities. They prey on fear. They prey on anxiety,” he said. “They prey on all of the elements that contribute to uncertainty in society, and they entrepreneur fantasy outcomes and conspiracy outcomes as being a normal part of social narrative. "I personally find it deeply repulsive, and to think that someone has such remarkable power in the United States is something that I look at in disbelief. "I am not a consumer or enthusiast about Mr Rogan and his work. I am not one of the three billion and I'm unlikely to be three billion and one anytime soon. I never listen to the guy but I know.... Mothra, Bbwian, Sad, Duckshit, groggy, karnal, icky, zzzzzzz ...

I've never been shot in the head, but I know it's bad and that I wouldn't like it.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 6:56pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 2:30pm: if you study any of the great teachers they will tell you the worst thing you can do for anyone is to tell them they are a victim and then give them a handout you rob them of agency, you rob them of legitimate self esteem, they cannot see opportunities that exist.  it is an amoral thing to do. Or, an even faster, more visceral lesson, is to see what happens to high-order primates, bears, large cats and other animals of high intelligence capacity when kept in zoos that provide an environment where they need not forage or hone their survival skills. The same severe neurotic symptoms that humans develop: deep depression, withdrawal and volatility. Repetitive rocking, continual pacing, self-harm, aggressive outbursts, over-eating, insanity, diseases... The damaging effects of a life devoid of danger, risk and survival by self-effort are more than psychological, they're also biological, physiological and neurological.

when you ask for a handout

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greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 7:32pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 7:29pm: The boss of one of Australia's largest media organisations has launched a bizarre attack on popular US podcaster Joe Rogan, arguing he was "deeply repulsive" and took advantage of "people's vulnerabilities". The comments from ABC Chair Kim Williams, whose organisation receives more than $1.2 billion a year in taxpayer funding, were an attempt to distract from the fact his own organisation was struggling with significant drops in audience figures. The national broadcaster recorded a 3.5 per cent decline across all platforms compared to last financial year, while the drops have been far worse in radio, forcing management to sack multiple hosts in a bid to revamp show formats. Even though Mr Williams launched an inflammatory, and highly personal attack against Rogan, he confusingly stated he never watched the Joe Rogan Experience. “I think that people like Mr Rogan prey on people's vulnerabilities. They prey on fear. They prey on anxiety,” he said. “They prey on all of the elements that contribute to uncertainty in society, and they entrepreneur fantasy outcomes and conspiracy outcomes as being a normal part of social narrative. "I personally find it deeply repulsive, and to think that someone has such remarkable power in the United States is something that I look at in disbelief. "I am not a consumer or enthusiast about Mr Rogan and his work. I am not one of the three billion and I'm unlikely to be three billion and one anytime soon. I never listen to the guy but I know.... Mothra, Bbwian, Sad, Duckshit, groggy, karnal, icky, zzzzzzz ... I've never been shot in the head, but I know it's bad and that I wouldn't like it.

Oh, you have been, creep, you have been.

Frank wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 7:29pm:

"I am not a consumer or enthusiast about Mr Rogan and his work. I am not one of the three billion and I'm unlikely to be three billion and one anytime soon. I never listen to the guy but I know.... Mothra, Bbwian, Sad, Duckshit, groggy, karnal, icky, zzzzzzz ...

And your imaginary boyfriend, Aqua.