https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c8xpzl8nnvwt?post=asset%3A41490bf2-c0f2-4c02-a088-eb888cc21d25

Trump says as soon as he gets into office, he’ll sign an executive order
imposing a 25% tariff on "all products" entering the US from neighbours Mexico and Canada.

In his Monday night post on Truth Social, he also says, external these tariffs - which are a type of a tax - will be in place until the two countries clamp down on drugs and illegal migrants crossing the border.

"As everyone is aware, thousands of people are pouring through Mexico and Canada, bringing crime and drugs at levels never seen before," he writes.

He also says, external an extra 10% tariff will be charged on goods coming from China, on top of any other tariffs. This is lower than he threatened before - back in the campaign he promised 60%.

Trump says that will last until the Chinese government
cracks down on fentanyl being smuggled out the country.

"Representatives of China told me that they would institute their maximum penalty, that of death, for any drug dealers caught doing this but, unfortunately, they never followed through, and drugs are pouring into our country, mostly through Mexico, at levels never seen before," he says.

Why didn't sleepy Joe Biden do that?

America is being destroyed by Chinese Fentanyl.


100s of 1000s of people have died -  dealers are mixing fentanyl with everything.

That's what happened to the famous rock star Prince -

someone put a bit of Fentanyl in his heroin -
and he went to sleep and died.
He followed 100s of 1000s of others.

Inflation in the US is about to shoot through the roof ::)

Mark Swidan is an American who has been detained since 2012 in Jiangmen, China, and given the death penalty for trafficking drugs. In 2019, Swidan was charged with drug trafficking in China and sentenced to death with a two-year reprieve by a court in Guangdong. On April 14, 2023, the Guangdong court upheld the decision to sentence Swidan to death.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/04/14/china/us-citizen-death-sentence-upheld-china-intl-hnk/index.html

John Smith wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 7:39am:

Inflation in the US is about to shoot through the roof ::)

Many products will go up in price but it will also enable many more jobs
for Americans to build products without unfair competition and price dumping.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 9:20pm:

Why didn't sleepy Joe Biden do that? America is being destroyed by Chinese Fentanyl. 100s of 1000s of people have died -  dealers are mixing fentanyl with everything.

Because it won't work. All that will come of it will be a trade war that hurts ordinary Americans in their hip pocket when they are already struggling with a cost of living crisis. In short, Trump is a moron.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 9:06am:

Many products will go up in price but it will also enable many more jobs

so they'll work their arses off and still be unable to afford anything

:D :D

John Smith wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 11:40am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:06am: Many products will go up in price but it will also enable many more jobs so they'll work their arses off and still be unable to afford anything :D :D

I think Bobby is one of Trumps' advisers. Explains why Trump has no clue about tariffs.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 9:20pm:

Why didn't sleepy Joe Biden do that?

He knows how tariffs work, that's why.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 1:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 9:20pm: Why didn't sleepy Joe Biden do that? He knows how tariffs work, that's why.

Then how is Biden dealing with the Chinese:

unfair competition from Govt. subsidies,

price dumping at below cost, which closes down American and Australia businesses -
check out how BHP closed nearly all their steel mills,

trying to compete with employers who pay their workers
only a bowl of rice per day and have no OH&S standards,

and China making tons of Fentanyl and flooding the USA with it from the Mexico border?

Bobby. wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 2:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 1:46pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 9:20pm: Why didn't sleepy Joe Biden do that? He knows how tariffs work, that's why. Then how is Biden dealing with the Chinese: unfair competition from Govt. subsidies, price dumping at below cost, which closes down American and Australia businesses - check out how BHP closed nearly all their steel mills, trying to compete with employers who pay their workers only a bowl of rice per day and have no OH&S standards, and China making tons of Fentanyl and flooding the USA with it from the Mexico border?

In November 2023, President Biden negotiated the resumption of counternarcotics cooperation with the People’s Republic of China (PRC), spurring increased cooperation on law enforcement actions and ongoing efforts to shut down companies that fuel illicit fentanyl and synthetic drug trafficking and cause deaths in the United States.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/07/31/fact-sheet-biden-%E2%81%A0harris-administration-announces-new-actions-to-counter-the-scourge-of-fentanyl-and-other-synthetic-drugs/

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 3:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 2:30pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 1:46pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 9:20pm: Why didn't sleepy Joe Biden do that? He knows how tariffs work, that's why. Then how is Biden dealing with the Chinese: unfair competition from Govt. subsidies, price dumping at below cost, which closes down American and Australia businesses - check out how BHP closed nearly all their steel mills, trying to compete with employers who pay their workers only a bowl of rice per day and have no OH&S standards, and China making tons of Fentanyl and flooding the USA with it from the Mexico border? In November 2023, President Biden negotiated the resumption of counternarcotics cooperation with the People’s Republic of China (PRC), spurring increased cooperation on law enforcement actions and ongoing efforts to shut down companies that fuel illicit fentanyl and synthetic drug trafficking and cause deaths in the United States. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/07/31/fact-sheet-biden-%E2%81%A0harris-administration-announces-new-actions-to-counter-the-scourge-of-fentanyl-and-other-synthetic-drugs/

The amount of Fentanyl coming into the USA is at record levels according to Trump.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 3:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 3:16pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 2:30pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 1:46pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 9:20pm: Why didn't sleepy Joe Biden do that? He knows how tariffs work, that's why. Then how is Biden dealing with the Chinese: unfair competition from Govt. subsidies, price dumping at below cost, which closes down American and Australia businesses - check out how BHP closed nearly all their steel mills, trying to compete with employers who pay their workers only a bowl of rice per day and have no OH&S standards, and China making tons of Fentanyl and flooding the USA with it from the Mexico border? In November 2023, President Biden negotiated the resumption of counternarcotics cooperation with the People’s Republic of China (PRC), spurring increased cooperation on law enforcement actions and ongoing efforts to shut down companies that fuel illicit fentanyl and synthetic drug trafficking and cause deaths in the United States. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/07/31/fact-sheet-biden-%E2%81%A0harris-administration-announces-new-actions-to-counter-the-scourge-of-fentanyl-and-other-synthetic-drugs/ The amount of Fentanyl coming into the USA is at record levels according to Trump.

He's wrong though.

The amount of seizures is at record levels - the amount coming in is still the same or less.

Biden is actually doing something about it, whereas Trump did nothing - he just let it flow across the border with hardly any seizures.

"There were nearly 70,000 pounds of fentanyl seized along the Southwest [U.S.] border in the 24 months ending in August 2024," said Jen Daskal, a deputy assistant to President Biden on the National Security Council who focuses on fentanyl policy. "That's more fentanyl seized in the past two fiscal years than in the prior five years combined."

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 3:27pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 3:18pm: The amount of Fentanyl coming into the USA is at record levels according to Trump. He's wrong though. The amount of seizures is at record levels - the amount coming in is still the same or less. Biden is actually doing something about it, whereas Trump did nothing - he just let it flow across the border with hardly any seizures. "There were nearly 70,000 pounds of fentanyl seized along the Southwest [U.S.] border in the 24 months ending in August 2024," said Jen Daskal, a deputy assistant to President Biden on the National Security Council who focuses on fentanyl policy. "That's more fentanyl seized in the past two fiscal years than in the prior five years combined."

Trump wants to stop it being made in the first place - in China.

Tariffs will do it.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 3:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 3:27pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 3:18pm: The amount of Fentanyl coming into the USA is at record levels according to Trump. He's wrong though. The amount of seizures is at record levels - the amount coming in is still the same or less. Biden is actually doing something about it, whereas Trump did nothing - he just let it flow across the border with hardly any seizures. "There were nearly 70,000 pounds of fentanyl seized along the Southwest [U.S.] border in the 24 months ending in August 2024," said Jen Daskal, a deputy assistant to President Biden on the National Security Council who focuses on fentanyl policy. "That's more fentanyl seized in the past two fiscal years than in the prior five years combined." Trump wants to stop it being made in the first place - in China. Tariffs will do it.

Lol   ;D

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 4:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 3:30pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 3:27pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 3:18pm: The amount of Fentanyl coming into the USA is at record levels according to Trump. He's wrong though. The amount of seizures is at record levels - the amount coming in is still the same or less. Biden is actually doing something about it, whereas Trump did nothing - he just let it flow across the border with hardly any seizures. "There were nearly 70,000 pounds of fentanyl seized along the Southwest [U.S.] border in the 24 months ending in August 2024," said Jen Daskal, a deputy assistant to President Biden on the National Security Council who focuses on fentanyl policy. "That's more fentanyl seized in the past two fiscal years than in the prior five years combined." Trump wants to stop it being made in the first place - in China. Tariffs will do it. Lol   ;D

September 13, 2024.
CNN
—
The Biden administration said Friday that it has finalized tariff hikes on certain Chinese-made products that the president first announced in May.

The tariff rate will go up to 100% on electric vehicles, to 50% on solar cells and to 25% on electrical vehicle batteries, critical minerals, steel, aluminum, face masks and ship-to-shore cranes beginning September 27, according to the US Trade Representative’s Office.

Tariff hikes on other products, including semiconductor chips, are set to take effect over the next two years.




You didn't laff then, slimey, did you?

Frank wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 5:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 4:45pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 3:30pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 3:27pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 3:18pm: The amount of Fentanyl coming into the USA is at record levels according to Trump. He's wrong though. The amount of seizures is at record levels - the amount coming in is still the same or less. Biden is actually doing something about it, whereas Trump did nothing - he just let it flow across the border with hardly any seizures. "There were nearly 70,000 pounds of fentanyl seized along the Southwest [U.S.] border in the 24 months ending in August 2024," said Jen Daskal, a deputy assistant to President Biden on the National Security Council who focuses on fentanyl policy. "That's more fentanyl seized in the past two fiscal years than in the prior five years combined." Trump wants to stop it being made in the first place - in China. Tariffs will do it. Lol   ;D September 13, 2024. CNN — The Biden administration said Friday that it has finalized tariff hikes on certain Chinese-made products that the president first announced in May. The tariff rate will go up to 100% on electric vehicles, to 50% on solar cells and to 25% on electrical vehicle batteries, critical minerals, steel, aluminum, face masks and ship-to-shore cranes beginning September 27, according to the US Trade Representative’s Office. Tariff hikes on other products, including semiconductor chips, are set to take effect over the next two years. You didn't laff then, slimey, did you?

No, I didn't.

Why not?

Because Biden didn't say tariffs will stop fentanyl from being made in China.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 9:20pm:

Why didn't sleepy Joe Biden do that?

Because of the trade wars, cost of living issues people are already feeling and the inevitable tanking of the economy overall with out-of-control inflation and higher interest rates?

Even if they are being used as threats to get what he wants, they're entirely empty.

Not even Trump is dumb enough to actually go through with the tariffs.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 3:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 3:27pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 3:18pm: The amount of Fentanyl coming into the USA is at record levels according to Trump. He's wrong though. The amount of seizures is at record levels - the amount coming in is still the same or less. Biden is actually doing something about it, whereas Trump did nothing - he just let it flow across the border with hardly any seizures. "There were nearly 70,000 pounds of fentanyl seized along the Southwest [U.S.] border in the 24 months ending in August 2024," said Jen Daskal, a deputy assistant to President Biden on the National Security Council who focuses on fentanyl policy. "That's more fentanyl seized in the past two fiscal years than in the prior five years combined." Trump wants to stop it being made in the first place - in China. Tariffs will do it.

How?

Quote:

Where Things Stand President-elect Donald J. Trump said on Monday that he would impose 25 percent tariffs on all products coming into the United States from Canada and Mexico on his first day in office, writing on Truth Social, “This Tariff will remain in effect until such time as Drugs, in particular Fentanyl, and all Illegal Aliens stop this Invasion of our Country!” The move would scramble North American supply chains and impose heavy costs on businesses around the continent.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/11/25/us/trump-news

What a colossal idiot!

What about the NAFTA?

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 5:27pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 3:30pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 3:27pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 3:18pm: The amount of Fentanyl coming into the USA is at record levels according to Trump. He's wrong though. The amount of seizures is at record levels - the amount coming in is still the same or less. Biden is actually doing something about it, whereas Trump did nothing - he just let it flow across the border with hardly any seizures. "There were nearly 70,000 pounds of fentanyl seized along the Southwest [U.S.] border in the 24 months ending in August 2024," said Jen Daskal, a deputy assistant to President Biden on the National Security Council who focuses on fentanyl policy. "That's more fentanyl seized in the past two fiscal years than in the prior five years combined." Trump wants to stop it being made in the first place - in China. Tariffs will do it. How?

I can't wait to see his answer.

Bobbi?   :-/

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 5:24pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 5:20pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 4:45pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 3:30pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 3:27pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 3:18pm: The amount of Fentanyl coming into the USA is at record levels according to Trump. He's wrong though. The amount of seizures is at record levels - the amount coming in is still the same or less. Biden is actually doing something about it, whereas Trump did nothing - he just let it flow across the border with hardly any seizures. "There were nearly 70,000 pounds of fentanyl seized along the Southwest [U.S.] border in the 24 months ending in August 2024," said Jen Daskal, a deputy assistant to President Biden on the National Security Council who focuses on fentanyl policy. "That's more fentanyl seized in the past two fiscal years than in the prior five years combined." Trump wants to stop it being made in the first place - in China. Tariffs will do it. Lol   ;D September 13, 2024. CNN — The Biden administration said Friday that it has finalized tariff hikes on certain Chinese-made products that the president first announced in May. The tariff rate will go up to 100% on electric vehicles, to 50% on solar cells and to 25% on electrical vehicle batteries, critical minerals, steel, aluminum, face masks and ship-to-shore cranes beginning September 27, according to the US Trade Representative’s Office. Tariff hikes on other products, including semiconductor chips, are set to take effect over the next two years. You didn't laff then, slimey, did you? No, I didn't. Why not? Because Biden didn't say tariffs will stop fentanyl from being made in China.

Oh! So your opposition to tariffs is about fentanyl!!

I didn't realise, lying, dishonest, skin crawling creep.

Why DO you lie so fluently, effortlessly? 
Psychopathy. You tick most boxes, creep.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 5:27pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 3:30pm: Trump wants to stop it being made in the first place - in China. Tariffs will do it. How?

It's the Art of the Deal.

You stop making Fentanyl and exporting it via Mexico to the USA
and we'll consider lowering our tariffs.

Frank wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 7:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 5:24pm: Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 5:20pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 4:45pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 3:30pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 3:27pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 3:18pm: The amount of Fentanyl coming into the USA is at record levels according to Trump. He's wrong though. The amount of seizures is at record levels - the amount coming in is still the same or less. Biden is actually doing something about it, whereas Trump did nothing - he just let it flow across the border with hardly any seizures. "There were nearly 70,000 pounds of fentanyl seized along the Southwest [U.S.] border in the 24 months ending in August 2024," said Jen Daskal, a deputy assistant to President Biden on the National Security Council who focuses on fentanyl policy. "That's more fentanyl seized in the past two fiscal years than in the prior five years combined." Trump wants to stop it being made in the first place - in China. Tariffs will do it. Lol   ;D September 13, 2024. CNN — The Biden administration said Friday that it has finalized tariff hikes on certain Chinese-made products that the president first announced in May. The tariff rate will go up to 100% on electric vehicles, to 50% on solar cells and to 25% on electrical vehicle batteries, critical minerals, steel, aluminum, face masks and ship-to-shore cranes beginning September 27, according to the US Trade Representative’s Office. Tariff hikes on other products, including semiconductor chips, are set to take effect over the next two years. You didn't laff then, slimey, did you? No, I didn't. Why not? Because Biden didn't say tariffs will stop fentanyl from being made in China. Oh! So your opposition to tariffs is about fentanyl!!

You need to keep up.

Maybe read all the posts in the thread before you comment and make a fool of yourself.

Bobbi said:


Quote:

Trump wants to stop it being made in the first place - in China. Tariffs will do it.

I laughed at him, as tariffs have no way of stopping people in China from making fentanyl.

SadKangaroo has asked Bobbi to explain how tariffs will stop fentanyl from being made in China, but he hasn't answered.

Maybe you can help him out - how will tariffs stop fentanyl from being made in China?

We're all very curious.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 7:35pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 5:27pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 3:30pm: Trump wants to stop it being made in the first place - in China. Tariffs will do it. How? It's the Art of the Deal. You stop making Fentanyl and exporting it via Mexico to the USA and we'll consider lowering our tariffs.

Why would people making fentanyl in China be concerned about tariffs?

Please explain.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 7:38pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 7:34pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 5:24pm: Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 5:20pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 4:45pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 3:30pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 3:27pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 3:18pm: The amount of Fentanyl coming into the USA is at record levels according to Trump. He's wrong though. The amount of seizures is at record levels - the amount coming in is still the same or less. Biden is actually doing something about it, whereas Trump did nothing - he just let it flow across the border with hardly any seizures. "There were nearly 70,000 pounds of fentanyl seized along the Southwest [U.S.] border in the 24 months ending in August 2024," said Jen Daskal, a deputy assistant to President Biden on the National Security Council who focuses on fentanyl policy. "That's more fentanyl seized in the past two fiscal years than in the prior five years combined." Trump wants to stop it being made in the first place - in China. Tariffs will do it. Lol   ;D September 13, 2024. CNN — The Biden administration said Friday that it has finalized tariff hikes on certain Chinese-made products that the president first announced in May. The tariff rate will go up to 100% on electric vehicles, to 50% on solar cells and to 25% on electrical vehicle batteries, critical minerals, steel, aluminum, face masks and ship-to-shore cranes beginning September 27, according to the US Trade Representative’s Office. Tariff hikes on other products, including semiconductor chips, are set to take effect over the next two years. You didn't laff then, slimey, did you? No, I didn't. Why not? Because Biden didn't say tariffs will stop fentanyl from being made in China. Oh! So your opposition to tariffs is about fentanyl!! You need to keep up. Maybe read all the posts in the thread before you comment and make a fool of yourself. Bobbi said: Quote: Trump wants to stop it being made in the first place - in China. Tariffs will do it. I laughed at him, as tariffs have no way of stopping people in China from making fentanyl. SadKangaroo has asked Bobbi to explain how tariffs will stop fentanyl from being made in China, but he hasn't answered. Maybe you can help him out - how will tariffs stop fentanyl from being made in China? We're all very curious.

Putting the screws on the ChiComms is a GOOD thing.
The bastards, who got into the WTO on lying false pretences, have been getting away with WAAAAY too much lying, cheating.

Scrutinizing ChiComm imports and sending the Delta Force against the cartels will make a difference. Telling China to reign in its fentanyl exporters if it wants to export legit goods will be another lever.

Frank wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 7:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 7:38pm: Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 7:34pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 5:24pm: Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 5:20pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 4:45pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 3:30pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 3:27pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 3:18pm: The amount of Fentanyl coming into the USA is at record levels according to Trump. He's wrong though. The amount of seizures is at record levels - the amount coming in is still the same or less. Biden is actually doing something about it, whereas Trump did nothing - he just let it flow across the border with hardly any seizures. "There were nearly 70,000 pounds of fentanyl seized along the Southwest [U.S.] border in the 24 months ending in August 2024," said Jen Daskal, a deputy assistant to President Biden on the National Security Council who focuses on fentanyl policy. "That's more fentanyl seized in the past two fiscal years than in the prior five years combined." Trump wants to stop it being made in the first place - in China. Tariffs will do it. Lol   ;D September 13, 2024. CNN — The Biden administration said Friday that it has finalized tariff hikes on certain Chinese-made products that the president first announced in May. The tariff rate will go up to 100% on electric vehicles, to 50% on solar cells and to 25% on electrical vehicle batteries, critical minerals, steel, aluminum, face masks and ship-to-shore cranes beginning September 27, according to the US Trade Representative’s Office. Tariff hikes on other products, including semiconductor chips, are set to take effect over the next two years. You didn't laff then, slimey, did you? No, I didn't. Why not? Because Biden didn't say tariffs will stop fentanyl from being made in China. Oh! So your opposition to tariffs is about fentanyl!! You need to keep up. Maybe read all the posts in the thread before you comment and make a fool of yourself. Bobbi said: Quote: Trump wants to stop it being made in the first place - in China. Tariffs will do it. I laughed at him, as tariffs have no way of stopping people in China from making fentanyl. SadKangaroo has asked Bobbi to explain how tariffs will stop fentanyl from being made in China, but he hasn't answered. Maybe you can help him out - how will tariffs stop fentanyl from being made in China? We're all very curious. Putting the screws on the ChiComms is a GOOD thing. The bastards, who got into the WTO on lying false pretences, have been getting away with WAAAAY too much lying, cheating. Scrutinizing ChiComm imports and sending the Delta Force against the cartels will make a difference. Telling China to reign in its fentanyl exporters if it wants to export legit goods will be another lever.

How, exactly, will they do that?

How will China "reign in its fentanyl exporters"?

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 7:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 7:35pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 5:27pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 3:30pm: Trump wants to stop it being made in the first place - in China. Tariffs will do it. How? It's the Art of the Deal. You stop making Fentanyl and exporting it via Mexico to the USA and we'll consider lowering our tariffs. Why would people making fentanyl in China be concerned about tariffs? Please explain.

They will be concerned about the CCP telling them to desist, stupid creep. Wouldn't you?

Frank wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 7:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 7:42pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 7:35pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 5:27pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 3:30pm: Trump wants to stop it being made in the first place - in China. Tariffs will do it. How? It's the Art of the Deal. You stop making Fentanyl and exporting it via Mexico to the USA and we'll consider lowering our tariffs. Why would people making fentanyl in China be concerned about tariffs? Please explain. They will be concerned about the CCP telling them to desist, stupid creep. Wouldn't you?

Ah.

So the CCP will just tell them to stop, and they'll stop?

You're even funnier than Bobbi   ;D

Frank wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 7:52pm:

Putting the screws on the ChiComms is a GOOD thing. The bastards, who got into the WTO on lying false pretences, have been getting away with WAAAAY too much lying, cheating. Scrutinizing ChiComm imports and sending the Delta Force against the cartels will make a difference. Telling China to reign in its fentanyl exporters if it wants to export legit goods will be another lever.

Thanks Frank for your support -
I thought this thread was full of CCP party members.    :-[

It's the Art of the Deal.

You stop making Fentanyl and exporting it via Mexico to the USA
and we'll consider lowering our tariffs.


https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61tmNfB-wBL._SL1200_.jpg

Bobby. wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 8:00pm:

It's the Art of the Deal. You stop making Fentanyl and exporting it via Mexico to the USA and we'll consider lowering our tariffs. https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61tmNfB-wBL._SL1200_.jpg

Why would people making fentanyl in China be concerned about tariffs?

Please explain.

Quote:

US President-elect Donald Trump’s dramatic late night announcement that he plans to impose hefty tariffs on the country’s two closest neighbours could dramatically backfire, harming Americans. In a post to his social media platform Truth Social on Monday, US time, the 78-year-old said he would impose a 25 per cent tariff on products from Mexico and Canada, both US allies, and an additional 10 per cent tariff on products from China. The reaction has been swift. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau made a hurried late night call to Mr Trump after fears the tariff move could spark a recession in his country. Mexico’s President Claudia Sheinbaum has played tough suggesting her country may do tit-for-tat tariffs. While a Canadian premier said the tariff plan would be “devastating”. Mr Trump said the tariffs had come about because the countries weren’t doing enough to stop the drug fentanyl entering the US. He additionally criticised Mexico and Canada for the number of immigrants crossing the border. “Both Mexico and Canada have the absolute right and power to easily solve this long simmering problem,” said Mr Trump. “We hereby demand that they use this power, and until such time that they do, it is time for them to pay a very big price!” The number of people crossing from Canada into the US illegally has always been far lower than those coming from Mexico. But the numbers are now soaring. In the last 12 months almost 200,000 people have been picked up by US border patrol crossing the Canadian border. Two years ago that figure was 110,000. Although that’s still not even 10 per cent of the crossings from Mexico into the US. Partly, the rise in Canadian crossings has been driven by a crackdown on the southern border – put in place this year by US President Joe Biden – which has seen illegal crossings plummet. Some of those people, many from Mexico itself, have headed to Canada instead where the border is more lightly patrolled. Mr Trudeau said he phoned Mr Trump on Monday night. “We talked about some of the challenges that we can work on together. It was a good call. “This is a relationship that we know takes a certain amount of working on, and that’s what we’ll do,” he said. Mr Trudeau indicated that Canada was willing to more aggressively tackle border issues. Doug Ford, the premier of Canada’s largest province Ontario, was blunt. He said on social media that a 25 per cent tariff would be “devastating to workers and jobs in both Canada and the US,” and urging Mr Trudeau to “take the situation at our border seriously”. Mexican’s newly installed President Claudia Sheinbaum revealed a letter she was sending to Mr Trump warning him that inflation would rise, jobs would fall and tariffs work both ways. She reminded Mr Trump that the number of migrants moving illegally across the border has reduced. From almost 2.5 million in 2023 it’s now down to around two million. Which is likely still two million too much for Mr Trump. Scott Bessent, the billionaire who Mr Trump named as his Treasury secretary last week, described tariffs as a “useful tool for achieving the president’s foreign policy objectives”. ;) https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/devastating-world-shocked-at-trump-tariff-plan/news-story/d7e19cea73ad938c2139d12a8ead1dc4

Trump threatens tariffs with Mexico and Canada for allowing this illegal immigrant problem and all of a sudden Mexico and Canada want to do more about stopping these illegal immigrants.
:D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

This is what happens when you elect a leader with a backbone things get done. ;)

Trump hasn't started his second term yet and already Canada and Mexico want to do more to stop illegal immigrants. :)

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 8:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:00pm: It's the Art of the Deal. You stop making Fentanyl and exporting it via Mexico to the USA and we'll consider lowering our tariffs. https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61tmNfB-wBL._SL1200_.jpg Why would people making fentanyl in China be concerned about tariffs? Please explain.

Because China has the death penalty for doing it but
it hasn't been enforced.    ::)

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 8:05pm:

Quote: US President-elect Donald Trump’s dramatic late night announcement that he plans to impose hefty tariffs on the country’s two closest neighbours could dramatically backfire, harming Americans. In a post to his social media platform Truth Social on Monday, US time, the 78-year-old said he would impose a 25 per cent tariff on products from Mexico and Canada, both US allies, and an additional 10 per cent tariff on products from China. The reaction has been swift. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau made a hurried late night call to Mr Trump after fears the tariff move could spark a recession in his country. Mexico’s President Claudia Sheinbaum has played tough suggesting her country may do tit-for-tat tariffs. While a Canadian premier said the tariff plan would be “devastating”. Mr Trump said the tariffs had come about because the countries weren’t doing enough to stop the drug fentanyl entering the US. He additionally criticised Mexico and Canada for the number of immigrants crossing the border. “Both Mexico and Canada have the absolute right and power to easily solve this long simmering problem,” said Mr Trump. “We hereby demand that they use this power, and until such time that they do, it is time for them to pay a very big price!” The number of people crossing from Canada into the US illegally has always been far lower than those coming from Mexico. But the numbers are now soaring. In the last 12 months almost 200,000 people have been picked up by US border patrol crossing the Canadian border. Two years ago that figure was 110,000. Although that’s still not even 10 per cent of the crossings from Mexico into the US. Partly, the rise in Canadian crossings has been driven by a crackdown on the southern border – put in place this year by US President Joe Biden – which has seen illegal crossings plummet. Some of those people, many from Mexico itself, have headed to Canada instead where the border is more lightly patrolled. Mr Trudeau said he phoned Mr Trump on Monday night. “We talked about some of the challenges that we can work on together. It was a good call. “This is a relationship that we know takes a certain amount of working on, and that’s what we’ll do,” he said. Mr Trudeau indicated that Canada was willing to more aggressively tackle border issues. Doug Ford, the premier of Canada’s largest province Ontario, was blunt. He said on social media that a 25 per cent tariff would be “devastating to workers and jobs in both Canada and the US,” and urging Mr Trudeau to “take the situation at our border seriously”. Mexican’s newly installed President Claudia Sheinbaum revealed a letter she was sending to Mr Trump warning him that inflation would rise, jobs would fall and tariffs work both ways. She reminded Mr Trump that the number of migrants moving illegally across the border has reduced. From almost 2.5 million in 2023 it’s now down to around two million. Which is likely still two million too much for Mr Trump. Scott Bessent, the billionaire who Mr Trump named as his Treasury secretary last week, described tariffs as a “useful tool for achieving the president’s foreign policy objectives”. ;) https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/devastating-world-shocked-at-trump-tariff-plan/news-story/d7e19cea73ad938c2139d12a8ead1dc4 Trump threatens tariffs with Mexico and Canada for allowing this illegal immigrant problem and all of a sudden Mexico and Canada want to do more about stopping these illegal immigrants. :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D This is what happens when you elect a leader with a backbone things get done. ;)

This is why he was elected.

He doesn't talk, think, act like Barrack, Hillary, Joe, Kackela.

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 8:05pm:

Quote: US President-elect Donald Trump’s dramatic late night announcement that he plans to impose hefty tariffs on the country’s two closest neighbours could dramatically backfire, harming Americans. In a post to his social media platform Truth Social on Monday, US time, the 78-year-old said he would impose a 25 per cent tariff on products from Mexico and Canada, both US allies, and an additional 10 per cent tariff on products from China. The reaction has been swift. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau made a hurried late night call to Mr Trump after fears the tariff move could spark a recession in his country. Mexico’s President Claudia Sheinbaum has played tough suggesting her country may do tit-for-tat tariffs. While a Canadian premier said the tariff plan would be “devastating”. Mr Trump said the tariffs had come about because the countries weren’t doing enough to stop the drug fentanyl entering the US. He additionally criticised Mexico and Canada for the number of immigrants crossing the border. “Both Mexico and Canada have the absolute right and power to easily solve this long simmering problem,” said Mr Trump. “We hereby demand that they use this power, and until such time that they do, it is time for them to pay a very big price!” The number of people crossing from Canada into the US illegally has always been far lower than those coming from Mexico. But the numbers are now soaring. In the last 12 months almost 200,000 people have been picked up by US border patrol crossing the Canadian border. Two years ago that figure was 110,000. Although that’s still not even 10 per cent of the crossings from Mexico into the US. Partly, the rise in Canadian crossings has been driven by a crackdown on the southern border – put in place this year by US President Joe Biden – which has seen illegal crossings plummet. Some of those people, many from Mexico itself, have headed to Canada instead where the border is more lightly patrolled. Mr Trudeau said he phoned Mr Trump on Monday night. “We talked about some of the challenges that we can work on together. It was a good call. “This is a relationship that we know takes a certain amount of working on, and that’s what we’ll do,” he said. Mr Trudeau indicated that Canada was willing to more aggressively tackle border issues. Doug Ford, the premier of Canada’s largest province Ontario, was blunt. He said on social media that a 25 per cent tariff would be “devastating to workers and jobs in both Canada and the US,” and urging Mr Trudeau to “take the situation at our border seriously”. Mexican’s newly installed President Claudia Sheinbaum revealed a letter she was sending to Mr Trump warning him that inflation would rise, jobs would fall and tariffs work both ways. She reminded Mr Trump that the number of migrants moving illegally across the border has reduced. From almost 2.5 million in 2023 it’s now down to around two million. Which is likely still two million too much for Mr Trump. Scott Bessent, the billionaire who Mr Trump named as his Treasury secretary last week, described tariffs as a “useful tool for achieving the president’s foreign policy objectives”. ;) https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/devastating-world-shocked-at-trump-tariff-plan/news-story/d7e19cea73ad938c2139d12a8ead1dc4 Trump threatens tariffs with Mexico and Canada for allowing this illegal immigrant problem and all of a sudden Mexico and Canada want to do more about stopping these illegal immigrants.

;D

Frank wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 8:07pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:05pm: Quote: US President-elect Donald Trump’s dramatic late night announcement that he plans to impose hefty tariffs on the country’s two closest neighbours could dramatically backfire, harming Americans. In a post to his social media platform Truth Social on Monday, US time, the 78-year-old said he would impose a 25 per cent tariff on products from Mexico and Canada, both US allies, and an additional 10 per cent tariff on products from China. The reaction has been swift. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau made a hurried late night call to Mr Trump after fears the tariff move could spark a recession in his country. Mexico’s President Claudia Sheinbaum has played tough suggesting her country may do tit-for-tat tariffs. While a Canadian premier said the tariff plan would be “devastating”. Mr Trump said the tariffs had come about because the countries weren’t doing enough to stop the drug fentanyl entering the US. He additionally criticised Mexico and Canada for the number of immigrants crossing the border. “Both Mexico and Canada have the absolute right and power to easily solve this long simmering problem,” said Mr Trump. “We hereby demand that they use this power, and until such time that they do, it is time for them to pay a very big price!” The number of people crossing from Canada into the US illegally has always been far lower than those coming from Mexico. But the numbers are now soaring. In the last 12 months almost 200,000 people have been picked up by US border patrol crossing the Canadian border. Two years ago that figure was 110,000. Although that’s still not even 10 per cent of the crossings from Mexico into the US. Partly, the rise in Canadian crossings has been driven by a crackdown on the southern border – put in place this year by US President Joe Biden – which has seen illegal crossings plummet. Some of those people, many from Mexico itself, have headed to Canada instead where the border is more lightly patrolled. Mr Trudeau said he phoned Mr Trump on Monday night. “We talked about some of the challenges that we can work on together. It was a good call. “This is a relationship that we know takes a certain amount of working on, and that’s what we’ll do,” he said. Mr Trudeau indicated that Canada was willing to more aggressively tackle border issues. Doug Ford, the premier of Canada’s largest province Ontario, was blunt. He said on social media that a 25 per cent tariff would be “devastating to workers and jobs in both Canada and the US,” and urging Mr Trudeau to “take the situation at our border seriously”. Mexican’s newly installed President Claudia Sheinbaum revealed a letter she was sending to Mr Trump warning him that inflation would rise, jobs would fall and tariffs work both ways. She reminded Mr Trump that the number of migrants moving illegally across the border has reduced. From almost 2.5 million in 2023 it’s now down to around two million. Which is likely still two million too much for Mr Trump. Scott Bessent, the billionaire who Mr Trump named as his Treasury secretary last week, described tariffs as a “useful tool for achieving the president’s foreign policy objectives”. ;) https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/devastating-world-shocked-at-trump-tariff-plan/news-story/d7e19cea73ad938c2139d12a8ead1dc4 Trump threatens tariffs with Mexico and Canada for allowing this illegal immigrant problem and all of a sudden Mexico and Canada want to do more about stopping these illegal immigrants. :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D This is what happens when you elect a leader with a backbone things get done. ;) This is why he was elected. He doesn't talk, think, act like Barrack, Hillary, Joe, Kackela.

He talks, thinks, acts like a rapist.

Frank wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 8:07pm:

This is why he was elected. He doesn't talk, think, act like Barrack, Hillary, Joe, Kackela.

Trump acts like a man with a pair of balls -
not like a senile old man asleep at the wheel like sleepy Joe Biden.   ::)

Bobby. wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 8:12pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:07pm: This is why he was elected. He doesn't talk, think, act like Barrack, Hillary, Joe, Kackela. Trump acts like a man with a pair of balls - not like a senile old man asleep at the wheel like sleepy Joe Biden.   ::)

He talks, thinks, acts like a convicted felon who has no idea how tariffs work.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 8:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:12pm: Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:07pm: This is why he was elected. He doesn't talk, think, act like Barrack, Hillary, Joe, Kackela. Trump acts like a man with a pair of balls - not like a senile old man asleep at the wheel like sleepy Joe Biden.   ::) He talks, thinks, acts like a convicted felon who has no idea how tariffs work.

Trump is a transactional person - he does deals -
he sees everything as a deal.
He's not a sucker like Biden.
He wants the best deals for the USA.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 8:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:16pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:12pm: Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:07pm: This is why he was elected. He doesn't talk, think, act like Barrack, Hillary, Joe, Kackela. Trump acts like a man with a pair of balls - not like a senile old man asleep at the wheel like sleepy Joe Biden.   ::) He talks, thinks, acts like a convicted felon who has no idea how tariffs work. Trump is a transactional person - he does deals - he sees everything as a deal. He's not a sucker like Biden. He wants the best deals for the USA.

Lol   ;D

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 8:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:40pm: Trump is a transactional person - he does deals - he sees everything as a deal. He's not a sucker like Biden. He wants the best deals for the USA. Lol   ;D

Biden is absolutely demented -

I bet he doesn't even know what day it is.

Like Trumpy is totally sane and sound in mind?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Trumpy is an 80yo baby.

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 8:52pm:

Like Trumpy is totally sane and sound in mind?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Trumpy is an 80yo baby.

Left wingers like you wrote him off -
you said he was going to be in jail with Bubba as his only friend -
now look at him -
the next leader of the free world -
he's a genius.

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 8:52pm:

Like Trumpy is totally sane and sound in mind?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Trumpy is an 80yo baby.

And a rapist.

Oh, and a convicted criminal.

Greggy,
Why? Why would a nice guy like you want to kill a genius?
He reads poetry out loud, all right?


https://www.bitchute.com/video/3QXuh2t5tKsv

And a narcissist and not really sane.

First minor crisis and he will fall apart, like covid in his first term. Drink bleach and shine a light up your arse? Nuts!

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 9:20pm:

And a narcissist and not really sane. First minor crisis and he will fall apart, like covid in his first term. Drink bleach and shine a light up your arse? Nuts!

There's something happening out here, man....
I know something that you don't know.
That's right, Monk. The man is clear in his mind, but his soul is mad.
Oh, yeah. He's dying, I think. He hates all of this.
He hates it, but the man's, uh. He reads poetry outloud, all right?...
He likes you 'cause you're still alive.
He's got plans for you. No, no, I'm not gonna help you.
You're gonna help him, man...
I mean, what are they gonna say, man, when he's gone, huh?
'Cause he dies when it dies, man. When it dies, he dies.
What are they gonna say about him?
What are they gonna say?
He was a kind man? He was a wise man? He had plans? He had wisdom?
Bullshit, man! Am I gonna be the one that's gonna set them straight?
Look at me. Wrong! - you.

Damn, just think of all the revenue the medical and funeral industry will lose if President Trump is successful in stopping the importation of deadly drugs. Not only that but when someone dies many of their assets are liquidated and the money spent boosts the economy. Why would anyone but a Patriot want to stop that?

He will fall apart at the first crisis no matter how minor. He cannot accept responsibility because he is a narcissist.

Already we see he has not ended the Ukraine war despite his boasts he would do it in a day even before being inaugurated. Narcissism!

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 9:53pm:

He will fall apart at the first crisis no matter how minor. He cannot accept responsibility because he is a narcissist. Already we see he has not ended the Ukraine war despite his boasts he would do it in a day even before being inaugurated. Narcissism!

Hey, Monk,
you don't talk to the Colonel. You listen to him. The man's enlarged my mind. He's a poet-warrior in the classic sense. I mean, sometimes he'll, uh, well, you'll say hello to him, right? And he'll just walk right by you, and he won't even notice you. And suddenly he'll grab you, and he'll throw you in a corner, and he'll say "Do you know that 'if' is the middle word in life? 'If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you, if you can trust yourself when all men doubt you'" I mean, I'm no — I can't — I'm a little man. I'm a little man. He's, he's a great man. I should have been a pair of ragged claws scuttling across floors of silent seas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HqIiJHI1-M

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 9:53pm:

He will fall apart at the first crisis no matter how minor. He cannot accept responsibility because he is a narcissist. Already we see he has not ended the Ukraine war despite his boasts he would do it in a day even before being inaugurated. Narcissism!

If you haven't noticed biden and the war mongers are sending billions more since the election to keep the war machine going. Lots of profits are going to be lost if Trump stops the killing.

Mortdooley wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 9:46pm:

Damn, just think of all the revenue the medical and funeral industry will lose if President Trump is successful in stopping the importation of deadly drugs.

Imposing tariffs won't do it.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 10:24pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:46pm: Damn, just think of all the revenue the medical and funeral industry will lose if President Trump is successful in stopping the importation of deadly drugs. Imposing tariffs won't do it.

Greggy,
you don't talk to Trump -  you listen to him - for the good of us all.

Frank wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 8:07pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:05pm: Quote: US President-elect Donald Trump’s dramatic late night announcement that he plans to impose hefty tariffs on the country’s two closest neighbours could dramatically backfire, harming Americans. In a post to his social media platform Truth Social on Monday, US time, the 78-year-old said he would impose a 25 per cent tariff on products from Mexico and Canada, both US allies, and an additional 10 per cent tariff on products from China. The reaction has been swift. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau made a hurried late night call to Mr Trump after fears the tariff move could spark a recession in his country. Mexico’s President Claudia Sheinbaum has played tough suggesting her country may do tit-for-tat tariffs. While a Canadian premier said the tariff plan would be “devastating”. Mr Trump said the tariffs had come about because the countries weren’t doing enough to stop the drug fentanyl entering the US. He additionally criticised Mexico and Canada for the number of immigrants crossing the border. “Both Mexico and Canada have the absolute right and power to easily solve this long simmering problem,” said Mr Trump. “We hereby demand that they use this power, and until such time that they do, it is time for them to pay a very big price!” The number of people crossing from Canada into the US illegally has always been far lower than those coming from Mexico. But the numbers are now soaring. In the last 12 months almost 200,000 people have been picked up by US border patrol crossing the Canadian border. Two years ago that figure was 110,000. Although that’s still not even 10 per cent of the crossings from Mexico into the US. Partly, the rise in Canadian crossings has been driven by a crackdown on the southern border – put in place this year by US President Joe Biden – which has seen illegal crossings plummet. Some of those people, many from Mexico itself, have headed to Canada instead where the border is more lightly patrolled. Mr Trudeau said he phoned Mr Trump on Monday night. “We talked about some of the challenges that we can work on together. It was a good call. “This is a relationship that we know takes a certain amount of working on, and that’s what we’ll do,” he said. Mr Trudeau indicated that Canada was willing to more aggressively tackle border issues. Doug Ford, the premier of Canada’s largest province Ontario, was blunt. He said on social media that a 25 per cent tariff would be “devastating to workers and jobs in both Canada and the US,” and urging Mr Trudeau to “take the situation at our border seriously”. Mexican’s newly installed President Claudia Sheinbaum revealed a letter she was sending to Mr Trump warning him that inflation would rise, jobs would fall and tariffs work both ways. She reminded Mr Trump that the number of migrants moving illegally across the border has reduced. From almost 2.5 million in 2023 it’s now down to around two million. Which is likely still two million too much for Mr Trump. Scott Bessent, the billionaire who Mr Trump named as his Treasury secretary last week, described tariffs as a “useful tool for achieving the president’s foreign policy objectives”. ;) https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/devastating-world-shocked-at-trump-tariff-plan/news-story/d7e19cea73ad938c2139d12a8ead1dc4 Trump threatens tariffs with Mexico and Canada for allowing this illegal immigrant problem and all of a sudden Mexico and Canada want to do more about stopping these illegal immigrants. :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D This is what happens when you elect a leader with a backbone things get done. ;) This is why he was elected. He doesn't talk, think, act like Barrack, Hillary, Joe, Kackela.

He isn't in power yet and the threat of tariffs has Canada and Mexico suddenly considering toughening up their borders to stop illegal immigrants entering USA.

Last time he was in power countries refused to take their illegal immigrants back so he threatened to stop financial aid to those countries and they suddenly backflipped and took them back.
When Obama was in power they parked trucks on the runway so planes couldn't land they didn't do that with Trump they took them back.

Canadians might then ask WTF are we doing with our illegal immigrant problem why did it take Trump to threaten tariffs before their spineless politicians did something.

Mexico will probably get tariffs on US owned cars that are made in Mexico to exploit the cheap labor to encourage US car makers to move building cars back to the US.

Last time Trump was in power the US was the largest oil producer OPEC dropped oil price to eliminate competition from shale oil.

When you elect people with business experience who aren't career politicians it changes for the better.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 9:10pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:52pm: Like Trumpy is totally sane and sound in mind?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Trumpy is an 80yo baby. Left wingers like you wrote him off - you said he was going to be in jail with Bubba as his only friend - now look at him - the next leader of the free world - he's a genius.

Hang on, who raised Bubba?

You?

You.

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 11:24pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:07pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:05pm: Quote: US President-elect Donald Trump’s dramatic late night announcement that he plans to impose hefty tariffs on the country’s two closest neighbours could dramatically backfire, harming Americans. In a post to his social media platform Truth Social on Monday, US time, the 78-year-old said he would impose a 25 per cent tariff on products from Mexico and Canada, both US allies, and an additional 10 per cent tariff on products from China. The reaction has been swift. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau made a hurried late night call to Mr Trump after fears the tariff move could spark a recession in his country. Mexico’s President Claudia Sheinbaum has played tough suggesting her country may do tit-for-tat tariffs. While a Canadian premier said the tariff plan would be “devastating”. Mr Trump said the tariffs had come about because the countries weren’t doing enough to stop the drug fentanyl entering the US. He additionally criticised Mexico and Canada for the number of immigrants crossing the border. “Both Mexico and Canada have the absolute right and power to easily solve this long simmering problem,” said Mr Trump. “We hereby demand that they use this power, and until such time that they do, it is time for them to pay a very big price!” The number of people crossing from Canada into the US illegally has always been far lower than those coming from Mexico. But the numbers are now soaring. In the last 12 months almost 200,000 people have been picked up by US border patrol crossing the Canadian border. Two years ago that figure was 110,000. Although that’s still not even 10 per cent of the crossings from Mexico into the US. Partly, the rise in Canadian crossings has been driven by a crackdown on the southern border – put in place this year by US President Joe Biden – which has seen illegal crossings plummet. Some of those people, many from Mexico itself, have headed to Canada instead where the border is more lightly patrolled. Mr Trudeau said he phoned Mr Trump on Monday night. “We talked about some of the challenges that we can work on together. It was a good call. “This is a relationship that we know takes a certain amount of working on, and that’s what we’ll do,” he said. Mr Trudeau indicated that Canada was willing to more aggressively tackle border issues. Doug Ford, the premier of Canada’s largest province Ontario, was blunt. He said on social media that a 25 per cent tariff would be “devastating to workers and jobs in both Canada and the US,” and urging Mr Trudeau to “take the situation at our border seriously”. Mexican’s newly installed President Claudia Sheinbaum revealed a letter she was sending to Mr Trump warning him that inflation would rise, jobs would fall and tariffs work both ways. She reminded Mr Trump that the number of migrants moving illegally across the border has reduced. From almost 2.5 million in 2023 it’s now down to around two million. Which is likely still two million too much for Mr Trump. Scott Bessent, the billionaire who Mr Trump named as his Treasury secretary last week, described tariffs as a “useful tool for achieving the president’s foreign policy objectives”. ;) https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/devastating-world-shocked-at-trump-tariff-plan/news-story/d7e19cea73ad938c2139d12a8ead1dc4 Trump threatens tariffs with Mexico and Canada for allowing this illegal immigrant problem and all of a sudden Mexico and Canada want to do more about stopping these illegal immigrants. :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D This is what happens when you elect a leader with a backbone things get done. ;) This is why he was elected. He doesn't talk, think, act like Barrack, Hillary, Joe, Kackela. He isn't in power yet and the threat of tariffs has Canada and Mexico suddenly considering toughening up their borders to stop illegal immigrants entering USA. Last time he was in power countries refused to take their illegal immigrants back so he threatened to stop financial aid to those countries and they suddenly backflipped and took them back. When Obama was in power they parked trucks on the runway so planes couldn't land they didn't do that with Trump they took them back. Canadians might then ask WTF are we doing with our illegal immigrant problem why did it take Trump to threaten tariffs before their spineless politicians did something. Mexico will probably get tariffs on US owned cars that are made in Mexico to exploit the cheap labor to encourage US car makers to move building cars back to the US. Last time Trump was in power the US was the largest oil producer OPEC dropped oil price to eliminate competition from shale oil. When you elect people with business experience who aren't career politicians it changes for the better.

Mexico and Canada?

I see. So which prez signed the USMCA with Mexico and Canada?

Care for a stab?

Karnal wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 11:59pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 11:24pm: Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:07pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:05pm: Quote: US President-elect Donald Trump’s dramatic late night announcement that he plans to impose hefty tariffs on the country’s two closest neighbours could dramatically backfire, harming Americans. In a post to his social media platform Truth Social on Monday, US time, the 78-year-old said he would impose a 25 per cent tariff on products from Mexico and Canada, both US allies, and an additional 10 per cent tariff on products from China. The reaction has been swift. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau made a hurried late night call to Mr Trump after fears the tariff move could spark a recession in his country. Mexico’s President Claudia Sheinbaum has played tough suggesting her country may do tit-for-tat tariffs. While a Canadian premier said the tariff plan would be “devastating”. Mr Trump said the tariffs had come about because the countries weren’t doing enough to stop the drug fentanyl entering the US. He additionally criticised Mexico and Canada for the number of immigrants crossing the border. “Both Mexico and Canada have the absolute right and power to easily solve this long simmering problem,” said Mr Trump. “We hereby demand that they use this power, and until such time that they do, it is time for them to pay a very big price!” The number of people crossing from Canada into the US illegally has always been far lower than those coming from Mexico. But the numbers are now soaring. In the last 12 months almost 200,000 people have been picked up by US border patrol crossing the Canadian border. Two years ago that figure was 110,000. Although that’s still not even 10 per cent of the crossings from Mexico into the US. Partly, the rise in Canadian crossings has been driven by a crackdown on the southern border – put in place this year by US President Joe Biden – which has seen illegal crossings plummet. Some of those people, many from Mexico itself, have headed to Canada instead where the border is more lightly patrolled. Mr Trudeau said he phoned Mr Trump on Monday night. “We talked about some of the challenges that we can work on together. It was a good call. “This is a relationship that we know takes a certain amount of working on, and that’s what we’ll do,” he said. Mr Trudeau indicated that Canada was willing to more aggressively tackle border issues. Doug Ford, the premier of Canada’s largest province Ontario, was blunt. He said on social media that a 25 per cent tariff would be “devastating to workers and jobs in both Canada and the US,” and urging Mr Trudeau to “take the situation at our border seriously”. Mexican’s newly installed President Claudia Sheinbaum revealed a letter she was sending to Mr Trump warning him that inflation would rise, jobs would fall and tariffs work both ways. She reminded Mr Trump that the number of migrants moving illegally across the border has reduced. From almost 2.5 million in 2023 it’s now down to around two million. Which is likely still two million too much for Mr Trump. Scott Bessent, the billionaire who Mr Trump named as his Treasury secretary last week, described tariffs as a “useful tool for achieving the president’s foreign policy objectives”. ;) https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/devastating-world-shocked-at-trump-tariff-plan/news-story/d7e19cea73ad938c2139d12a8ead1dc4 Trump threatens tariffs with Mexico and Canada for allowing this illegal immigrant problem and all of a sudden Mexico and Canada want to do more about stopping these illegal immigrants. :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D This is what happens when you elect a leader with a backbone things get done. ;) This is why he was elected. He doesn't talk, think, act like Barrack, Hillary, Joe, Kackela. He isn't in power yet and the threat of tariffs has Canada and Mexico suddenly considering toughening up their borders to stop illegal immigrants entering USA. Last time he was in power countries refused to take their illegal immigrants back so he threatened to stop financial aid to those countries and they suddenly backflipped and took them back. When Obama was in power they parked trucks on the runway so planes couldn't land they didn't do that with Trump they took them back. Canadians might then ask WTF are we doing with our illegal immigrant problem why did it take Trump to threaten tariffs before their spineless politicians did something. Mexico will probably get tariffs on US owned cars that are made in Mexico to exploit the cheap labor to encourage US car makers to move building cars back to the US. Last time Trump was in power the US was the largest oil producer OPEC dropped oil price to eliminate competition from shale oil. When you elect people with business experience who aren't career politicians it changes for the better. Mexico and Canada? I see. So which prez signed the USMCA with Mexico and Canada? Care for a stab?

I would bet on Mexico and Canada stopping the flow of illegal immigrants into the US to avoid tariffs.

The ponce from Canada and the Mexicans have already indicated they will do this.

Strange. The prez of Mexico just said he'll do no such thing.

As if governments control the flow of illegal fentanyl. The Mexican government already cooperates on human trafficking.

Why would your DL overturn his supposedly own trade agreement?

Because he won't, silly Billy.

Companies are already looking to do trade in Europe and elsewhere. Mexico's looking towards China, who's already dealing increasingly with Asia, Africa and the developing world.

The game's already on but that's where destabilizing US trade gets you. Companies have to plan beyond one four year term, and they've got no time to fuck around.

Your DL will get in, talk tough, and do nothing, same as it ever was.

Sure I'll bet. Money down, dear. The loser leaves the board for good.

Filthy MAGAs, not conservatives. There's a difference. The MAGAs are convinced that George Soros is behind every smacking evil conspiracy on Earth, and they're also obsessed with every thing remotely related to the LGBTQ community. Banning books, drag queen story hours, genital checks in public restrooms, shooting cases of Bud Light with their AR-15s and all that horseshit.

These things might not matter to you, but they will matter to the idiots in the monster trucks flying the Trump flags & confederate flags.

Stranger yet is the fact that Cheeto also seems to have appointed a Labor Secretary who is actually PRO Labor? That one will probably piss off the corporate wing of the GOP more than it will the red-hatted lunatics.

Karnal wrote on Nov 28^th, 2024 at 12:40am:

Strange. The prez of Mexico just said he'll do no such thing. As if governments control the flow of illegal fentanyl. The Mexican government already cooperates on human trafficking. Why would your DL overturn his supposedly own trade agreement? Because he won't, silly Billy. Companies are already looking to do trade in Europe and elsewhere. Mexico's looking towards China, who's already dealing increasingly with Asia, Africa and the developing world. The game's already on but that's where destabilizing US trade gets you. Companies have to plan beyond one four year term, and they've got no time to fuck around. Your DL will get in, talk tough, and do nothing, same as it ever was. Sure I'll bet. Money down, dear. The loser leaves the board for good.

Karnal,
you're a doubting Thomas.
Trump will get tough with China and you know it.

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 9:53pm:

He will fall apart at the first crisis no matter how minor. He cannot accept responsibility because he is a narcissist. Already we see he has not ended the Ukraine war despite his boasts he would do it in a day even before being inaugurated. Narcissism!

Hey, Monk,
you don't talk to the Colonel. You listen to him. The man's enlarged my mind. He's a poet-warrior in the classic sense. I mean, sometimes he'll, uh, well, you'll say hello to him, right? And he'll just walk right by you, and he won't even notice you. And suddenly he'll grab you, and he'll throw you in a corner, and he'll say "Do you know that 'if' is the middle word in life? 'If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you, if you can trust yourself when all men doubt you'" I mean, I'm no — I can't — I'm a little man. I'm a little man. He's, he's a great man. I should have been a pair of ragged claws scuttling across floors of silent seas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HqIiJHI1-M

Stop the bullshit FFS.

Trump is old, senile.

Trump is a narcissist.

Trump will fall apart at the first crisis to arise.

Furthermore—he will be driven, in the first few months anyway by thoughts of revenge.

His tariffs will increase the cost of living for Americans as will bulk deporting ‘illegals’  so his popularity won’t last long. Increasingly fascist, revengeful.

Not good.

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 28^th, 2024 at 6:02am:

Stop the bullshit FFS. Trump is old, senile. Trump is a narcissist. Trump will fall apart at the first crisis to arise. Furthermore—he will be driven, in the first few months anyway by thoughts of revenge. His tariffs will increase the cost of living for Americans as will bulk deporting ‘illegals’  so his popularity won’t last long. Increasingly fascist, revengeful. Not good.

Then how is Biden dealing with the Chinese?  :

unfair competition from Govt. subsidies,

price dumping at below cost, which closes down American and Australia businesses -
check out how BHP closed nearly all their steel mills,

trying to compete with employers who pay their workers
only a bowl of rice per day and have no OH&S standards,

and China making tons of Fentanyl and flooding the USA with it from the Mexico border?

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 11:24pm:

Last time Trump was in power the US was the largest oil producer ...

Who was in power in 2013?  I'm curious.

17 October 2013

U.S. has overtaken Saudi Arabia to become the world's biggest oil producer

The United States is now the world's biggest supplier of oil overtaking the world number one, Saudi Arabia, according to latest output figures.

A surge in US oil output, which includes natural gas liquids and biofuels, has swelled 3.2 million barrels per day (bpd) since 2009.

The spike in oil production is the fastest expansion over a four-year period since Saudi Arabia's output surge from 1970-1974, energy analysis firm PIRA said in a statement.

Under the rapist?

Bobby. wrote on Nov 28^th, 2024 at 5:56am:

Karnal wrote on Nov 28th, 2024 at 12:40am: Strange. The prez of Mexico just said he'll do no such thing. As if governments control the flow of illegal fentanyl. The Mexican government already cooperates on human trafficking. Why would your DL overturn his supposedly own trade agreement? Because he won't, silly Billy. Companies are already looking to do trade in Europe and elsewhere. Mexico's looking towards China, who's already dealing increasingly with Asia, Africa and the developing world. The game's already on but that's where destabilizing US trade gets you. Companies have to plan beyond one four year term, and they've got no time to fuck around. Your DL will get in, talk tough, and do nothing, same as it ever was. Sure I'll bet. Money down, dear. The loser leaves the board for good. Karnal, you're a doubting Thomas. Trump will get tough with China and you know it.

The share market's already responding, dear. Go talk to Goldman Sachs.

"Getting tough with Chi-na" just leads to US inflation. Chinese business responds accordingly and exports more solar panels and EVs to Africa.

For China and the Darkies, it's a "win-win". For American consumers, it's a big loss.

For American drug-users, it makes no difference at all. The Fentanyl keeps coming in.

Karnal wrote on Nov 28^th, 2024 at 12:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 28th, 2024 at 5:56am: Karnal wrote on Nov 28th, 2024 at 12:40am: Strange. The prez of Mexico just said he'll do no such thing. As if governments control the flow of illegal fentanyl. The Mexican government already cooperates on human trafficking. Why would your DL overturn his supposedly own trade agreement? Because he won't, silly Billy. Companies are already looking to do trade in Europe and elsewhere. Mexico's looking towards China, who's already dealing increasingly with Asia, Africa and the developing world. The game's already on but that's where destabilizing US trade gets you. Companies have to plan beyond one four year term, and they've got no time to fuck around. Your DL will get in, talk tough, and do nothing, same as it ever was. Sure I'll bet. Money down, dear. The loser leaves the board for good. Karnal, you're a doubting Thomas. Trump will get tough with China and you know it. ... For China and the Darkies, it's a "win-win". For American consumers, it's a big loss. For American drug-users, it makes no difference at all. The Fentanyl keeps coming in.

Nailed it.

Bobbi still won't understand it though.