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Message started by Jovial Monk on Nov 30th, 2024 at 4:01pm

Title: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 30th, 2024 at 4:01pm
Nah.

But be  good.

Not a huge number of troops but the SAS and their Ukrainian opposite numbers could raise holy hell in ruzzian rear echelons.

The various regiments we can send with  modern, new weapons like jet fighters and bombers, tanks/AFVs could get the pigs wishing they were in their home sty!

UK/France/Germany are shamed into sending troops, say 200K with modern weapons. Norway/Denmark close the exit of the Baltic sea to  ruzzian ships.


Peace in our time. For real.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Bobby. on Nov 30th, 2024 at 4:11pm

We have Australian soldiers there.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-12/seven-australians-killed-fighting-ukraine-war-brock-greenwood/104090346

Brock Greenwood killed in Ukraine among Australians 'lulled' to fight war without military training

The number of Australians fighting on the front lines in Ukraine's war against Russia may never be known, an Australian military expert says.

Queensland man Brock Greenwood, 24, became the seventh Australian killed in Ukraine on July 6.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 30th, 2024 at 4:24pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 4:11pm:
We have Australian soldiers there.


No.

Australia is not sending troops/soldiers to Ukraine.

However, there are Australian civilians fighting there who went on their own accord.


Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Bobby. on Nov 30th, 2024 at 4:27pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 4:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 4:11pm:
We have Australian soldiers there.


No.

Australia is not sending troops/soldiers to Ukraine.

However, there are Australian civilians fighting there who went on their own accord.



They're Australians and they are soldiers in the Ukraine army.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 30th, 2024 at 5:10pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 4:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 4:11pm:
We have Australian soldiers there.


No.

Australia is not sending troops/soldiers to Ukraine.

However, there are Australian civilians fighting there who went on their own accord.



I know.

I can wish tho.

We can join Japan’s Asian version of NATO tho.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 30th, 2024 at 5:24pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 4:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 4:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 4:11pm:
We have Australian soldiers there.


No.

Australia is not sending troops/soldiers to Ukraine.

However, there are Australian civilians fighting there who went on their own accord.



They're Australians and they are soldiers in the Ukraine army.


They are not Australian troops, and they are not being sent to Ukraine by Australia.


Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 30th, 2024 at 6:07pm
Don’t expect the idiot to understand. . .

BUT

Could Australia acting unilaterally generate momentum to sending regular troops into Ukraine?

US has dipped a toe into the water: sending civil contractors to maintain/repair some gear, freeing up some Ukrainians to fight in the front lines.

Would like us to be the trendetter.

Why not discuss as if that is a possible reality, see what might flow from that?

Aussie troops (barring SAS) could man Patriot missile batteries etc.


Just discuss as if . . .

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 30th, 2024 at 6:13pm

I think it's unlikely.

And definitely wouldn't happen until after the rapist moves back into the White House.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 30th, 2024 at 6:41pm
Just play along.

What if Australia sent 10K troops incl SAS with up to date tanks/APCs/fighter + bomber planes, AA batteries etc to Ukraine.

Would other countries follow?

If not

Could Aust make a critical difference?

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 30th, 2024 at 6:42pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 6:41pm:
Just play along.

What if Australia sent 10K troops incl SAS with up to date tanks/APCs/fighter + bomber planes, AA batteries etc to Ukraine.

Would other countries follow?

If not

Could Aust make a critical difference?


Absolutely.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by RussiAnVetEraN on Nov 30th, 2024 at 6:52pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 6:41pm:
Could Aust make a critical difference?


No.

Australia can't do that.



Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jasin on Nov 30th, 2024 at 6:57pm
Southern Hemisphere troops are superior to northern hemisphere 'fodder' troops.
The generals are a bit useless though

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 30th, 2024 at 7:09pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 6:42pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 6:41pm:
Just play along.

What if Australia sent 10K troops incl SAS with up to date tanks/APCs/fighter + bomber planes, AA batteries etc to Ukraine.

Would other countries follow?

If not

Could Aust make a critical difference?


Absolutely.


I think so. The positive example set, the high quality of Australian troops—first to stop the Jap Army and those were only “Sunday Soldiers!”

Even more than that the example set!

NZ/UK and who else? The RN in the Black Sea? No more problems with Ukraine exporting its vital wheat.

Bloody ruzzia is attacking us anyway!

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by RussiAnVetEraN on Nov 30th, 2024 at 7:31pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 7:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 6:42pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 6:41pm:
Just play along.

What if Australia sent 10K troops incl SAS with up to date tanks/APCs/fighter + bomber planes, AA batteries etc to Ukraine.

Would other countries follow?

If not

Could Aust make a critical difference?


Absolutely.


I think so.


Usually this is what those who will not have to sit in the trenches under the enemy's blows personally write.


Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 30th, 2024 at 7:35pm
This is, of course, purely hypothetical.

But I am not surprised ruzzian followers shitting their pants at the thought of Aussies joining Ukrainians.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by RussiAnVetEraN on Nov 30th, 2024 at 7:52pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 7:35pm:
This is, of course, purely hypothetical.

But I am not surprised ruzzian followers shitting their pants at the thought of Aussies joining Ukrainians.


Keep watching my panties if you're interested.

But any 10 thousand soldiers here, where many hundreds of thousands of soldiers are fighting, will not change anything.

The most they will be capable of is fighting for some medium-sized city in Ukraine.


Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 30th, 2024 at 7:56pm
The russophiles are worried. Hmmm.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by RussiAnVetEraN on Nov 30th, 2024 at 8:00pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 7:56pm:
Tje russophiles are worried. Hmmm.


I'm in a panic that the Australian cavalry could hypothetically come to us on kangaroos.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 30th, 2024 at 8:08pm
VERY worried!

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by RussiAnVetEraN on Nov 30th, 2024 at 8:13pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 8:08pm:
VERY worried!


I'm going crazy with the thought that tough Australian soldiers will come and drive all the Russians out of Ukraine.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 30th, 2024 at 8:48pm
Wow, so worried about a hypothetical deployment of Aussie troops!

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by RussiAnVetEraN on Nov 30th, 2024 at 8:53pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 8:48pm:
Wow, so worried about a hypothetical deployment of Aussie troops!


And how many Australian soldiers have experience of modern warfare in conditions similar to Ukraine?

Iraq, Afghanistan and the Solomon Islands are not like Ukraine.


Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 30th, 2024 at 8:57pm
Settle petal. Just hypothetical.

Why not think about the situation in Syria? Oops, sorry, not a good idea for you today, eh?  ;D

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Bobby. on Nov 30th, 2024 at 9:02pm

RussiAnVetEraN wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 8:13pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 8:08pm:
VERY worried!


I'm going crazy with the thought that tough Australian soldiers will come and drive all the Russians out of Ukraine.



What about the Maoris in NZ?

They would do a Haka and the Russians would run away like rabbits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g3QbH_i2VU

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by RussiAnVetEraN on Nov 30th, 2024 at 9:03pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 8:57pm:
Settle petal. Just hypothetical.

Why not think about the situation in Syria? Oops, sorry, not a good idea for you today, eh?  ;D


Are any of your soldiers prepared for the fact that he won't be able to leave his dugout for many days because there are UAVs constantly flying over it?

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by RussiAnVetEraN on Nov 30th, 2024 at 9:07pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 9:02pm:
What about the Maoris in NZ?

They would do a Haka and the Russians would run away like rabbits.


This problem can be solved with mortars in a few minutes.


Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Bobby. on Nov 30th, 2024 at 9:08pm

RussiAnVetEraN wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 9:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 9:02pm:
What about the Maoris in NZ?

They would do a Haka and the Russians would run away like rabbits.


This problem can be solved with mortars in a few minutes.



But those Russian hands would be shaking too much to fire the mortars.   :-[

They are cannibals - they would have Russians for dinner.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 30th, 2024 at 9:27pm

RussiAnVetEraN wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 9:03pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 8:57pm:
Settle petal. Just hypothetical.

Why not think about the situation in Syria? Oops, sorry, not a good idea for you today, eh?  ;D


Are any of your soldiers prepared for the fact that he won't be able to leave his dugout for many days because there are UAVs constantly flying over it?

Australia has excellent drone detection and destruction equipment.

You are taking a merely hypothetical proposition very seriously! Is it because if Australia does others will too?

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by RussiAnVetEraN on Nov 30th, 2024 at 10:31pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 9:08pm:

RussiAnVetEraN wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 9:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 9:02pm:
What about the Maoris in NZ?

They would do a Haka and the Russians would run away like rabbits.


This problem can be solved with mortars in a few minutes.



But those Russian hands would be shaking too much to fire the mortars.   :-[

They are cannibals - they would have Russians for dinner.


The mortar men won't hear or see them. They are several kilometers away from their targets.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by RussiAnVetEraN on Nov 30th, 2024 at 10:40pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 9:27pm:

RussiAnVetEraN wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 9:03pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 8:57pm:
Settle petal. Just hypothetical.

Why not think about the situation in Syria? Oops, sorry, not a good idea for you today, eh?  ;D


Are any of your soldiers prepared for the fact that he won't be able to leave his dugout for many days because there are UAVs constantly flying over it?

Australia has excellent drone detection and destruction equipment.

You are taking a merely hypothetical proposition very seriously! Is it because if Australia does others will too?


I am simply using this topic as an opportunity to share with you the realities of this war. The situation in which both Russian and Ukrainian troops find themselves.

Australia may have good counter-drone equipment, but will it be available to an Australian platoon on the front line?

By the way, drones are fought not only with the help of this equipment, but drones are also shot down with regular small arms (assault rifles) sometimes.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Bobby. on Nov 30th, 2024 at 10:50pm

RussiAnVetEraN wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 10:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 9:08pm:

RussiAnVetEraN wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 9:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 9:02pm:
What about the Maoris in NZ?

They would do a Haka and the Russians would run away like rabbits.


This problem can be solved with mortars in a few minutes.



But those Russian hands would be shaking too much to fire the mortars.   :-[

They are cannibals - they would have Russians for dinner.


The mortar men won't hear or see them. They are several kilometers away from their targets.



The Maoris take no prisoners except for women and children.

They are from a warrior culture.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by RussiAnVetEraN on Nov 30th, 2024 at 11:32pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 10:50pm:
The Maoris take no prisoners except for women and children.

They are from a warrior culture.


What then prevented them from defending New Zealand and conquering Australia?

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jovial Monk on Dec 1st, 2024 at 6:05am

RussiAnVetEraN wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 10:40pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 9:27pm:

RussiAnVetEraN wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 9:03pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 8:57pm:
Settle petal. Just hypothetical.

Why not think about the situation in Syria? Oops, sorry, not a good idea for you today, eh?  ;D


Are any of your soldiers prepared for the fact that he won't be able to leave his dugout for many days because there are UAVs constantly flying over it?

Australia has excellent drone detection and destruction equipment.

You are taking a merely hypothetical proposition very seriously! Is it because if Australia does others will too?


I am simply using this topic as an opportunity to share with you the realities of this war. The situation in which both Russian and Ukrainian troops find themselves.

Australia may have good counter-drone equipment, but will it be available to an Australian platoon on the front line?

By the way, drones are fought not only with the help of this equipment, but drones are also shot down with regular small arms (assault rifles) sometimes.


You don’t know much about the war, do you?

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Bobby. on Dec 1st, 2024 at 8:20am

RussiAnVetEraN wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 11:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 10:50pm:
The Maoris take no prisoners except for women and children.

They are from a warrior culture.


What then prevented them from defending New Zealand and conquering Australia?



The British kept shooting them with muskets and canons full of shrapnel.




Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jasin on Dec 1st, 2024 at 8:44am

RussiAnVetEraN wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 11:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 10:50pm:
The Maoris take no prisoners except for women and children.

They are from a warrior culture.


What then prevented them from defending New Zealand and conquering Australia?


The Maori fought among themselves a lot.
They admit that they lost it, more than the Europeans having won it as most of the violence was of their own doing. Very honourable admission.

Long time ago. A Russian Warship threatened the early NZ colony which had to submit.
Not so long ago the Russian cruise ship Lermontov was given a drunkard Kiwi pilot to guide it around the Marlborough Sounds which hit  rocks and eventually sank. It's now a top dive site. I've dived it.
Karma. ;D

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jovial Monk on Dec 1st, 2024 at 11:22am
Bringing this back on topic.

Any comments about the purely hypothetical sending of 10,000 Aussie troops, together with modern armor, air force and SAS, to Ukraine to fight.

Would it make a difference to the war, hypothetically.

E.g. SAS could go behind enemy lines, sabotage artillery which is the ruzzian main advantage, guide drones and artillery, HIMARS, ATACMS to destroy more armor and especially artillery.

Ruzzia won’t have the artillery advantage for much longer—they are already swapping used up modern barrels with barrels taken from older Soviet artillery because the constant firing wears out the barrels. The barrels taken from the old stuff is not new, unused gear.

Aussie troops joining the fight would hugely boost the morale of the Ukrainian soldiers.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by RussiAnVetEraN on Dec 1st, 2024 at 3:00pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 1st, 2024 at 6:05am:
You don’t know much about the war, do you?


Of course I know little about the war.

But I am participating in it and therefore I know some things.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by RussiAnVetEraN on Dec 1st, 2024 at 3:04pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 1st, 2024 at 8:20am:

RussiAnVetEraN wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 11:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 10:50pm:
The Maoris take no prisoners except for women and children.

They are from a warrior culture.


What then prevented them from defending New Zealand and conquering Australia?



The British kept shooting them with muskets and canons full of shrapnel.


So you think that muskets defeated them, but modern cluster munitions, glide bombs and thermobaric shells will not defeat them?

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Bobby. on Dec 1st, 2024 at 3:05pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 1st, 2024 at 11:22am:
Bringing this back on topic.

Any comments about the purely hypothetical sending of 10,000 Aussie troops, together with modern armor, air force and SAS, to Ukraine to fight.

Would it make a difference to the war, hypothetically.

E.g. SAS could go behind enemy lines, sabotage artillery which is the ruzzian main advantage, guide drones and artillery, HIMARS, ATACMS to destroy more armor and especially artillery.

Ruzzia won’t have the artillery advantage for much longer—they are already swapping used up modern barrels with barrels taken from older Soviet artillery because the constant firing wears out the barrels. The barrels taken from the old stuff is not new, unused gear.

Aussie troops joining the fight would hugely boost the morale of the Ukrainian soldiers.



"SAS could go behind enemy lines"

What an armchair General.   ::)

Monk - you're a joke.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jovial Monk on Dec 1st, 2024 at 3:18pm
What do you think the SAS does? It is like talking to a child.

But try and develop the hypothetical situation.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by RussiAnVetEraN on Dec 1st, 2024 at 3:35pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 1st, 2024 at 8:44am:
Long time ago. A Russian Warship threatened the early NZ colony which had to submit.


Do you mean this ancient fake?

"David Luckie, the editor of the Daily Southern Cross, was concerned about this threat and published a hoax report of a Russian invasion of Auckland by the ironclad cruiser Kaskowiski – ‘cask of whisky’. Despite an asterisk in the story’s headline referring to a date almost three months in the future, gullible Aucklanders were alarmed to read that marines from the Kaskowiski had seized gold and taken the mayor, Philip Philips, hostage."
https://nzhistory.govt.nz/the-russians-are-coming

As you can see, nothing has changed and Western people were previously scared by Russians and continue to be scared by Russians now.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jasin on Dec 1st, 2024 at 4:05pm
Wow Yuri my Russo friend. I never knew it was a hoax!
Looks like I was sucked in big time. My apologies.

What do you think of Australia's former Prime Minister Tony 'Macho Man' Abbott wanting to grab your Putin by the shirt-front and give him a good ol Aussie headbutt for the Russian missile attack on a civilian Airliner with Australians in it?
Apparently Putin purposely dodged Abbott like a chicken and Obama had to step in and have a word to Abbott to back off, because Abbott was making him look bad also. Can't have a black man upstaged by an Aussie on "Who's da Man".
In response, Putin sent a part of the Russian Navy to do 'exercises' off Australian waters near the state of Queensland.
The result was: Putin was a chickenshit of a man
Australia's ADF was a chickenshit of a Navy.
😆

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by RussiAnVetEraN on Dec 1st, 2024 at 6:09pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 1st, 2024 at 4:05pm:
Wow Yuri my Russo friend. I never knew it was a hoax!
Looks like I was sucked in big time. My apologies.

What do you think of Australia's former Prime Minister Tony 'Macho Man' Abbott wanting to grab your Putin by the shirt-front and give him a good ol Aussie headbutt for the Russian missile attack on a civilian Airliner with Australians in it?
Apparently Putin purposely dodged Abbott like a chicken and Obama had to step in and have a word to Abbott to back off, because Abbott was making him look bad also. Can't have a black man upstaged by an Aussie on "Who's da Man".
In response, Putin sent a part of the Russian Navy to do 'exercises' off Australian waters near the state of Queensland.
The result was: Putin was a chickenshit of a man
Australia's ADF was a chickenshit of a Navy.
😆


Friend, if you want to call me by my name, then my name is Alexander.

I think it is an exaggeration that the Prime Minister wanted to fight Putin.

And I believe that it was not Russia that shot down the plane.

https://youtu.be/zAFZbjyoqok?si=z0l1HGVedDZaGOGt

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Bobby. on Dec 1st, 2024 at 7:13pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 1st, 2024 at 3:18pm:
What do you think the SAS does? It is like talking to a child.

But try and develop the hypothetical situation.



The Russians execute soldiers found behind enemy lines.    ::)

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jovial Monk on Dec 1st, 2024 at 7:44pm
If they catch them.

We have supported Ukraine quite a bit.

Bushmasters

“Paper” drones

Anti drone EW equipment.

Albo is sending our clapped out Abrams to Ukraine—used as a source of spare parts. Spain is sending Abrams—fully refurbished, ready for battle on landing in Ukraine.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jasin on Dec 1st, 2024 at 8:50pm
Ignore Jovial Monk. He's an alcoholic, an arsehole, a scammer, a Doxxer and a wannabe intellectual who Trolls anyone gullible to believe he knows anything beyond his stash of trivial pursuit cards.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Bobby. on Dec 1st, 2024 at 8:56pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 1st, 2024 at 8:50pm:
Ignore Jovial Monk. He's an alcoholic, an arsehole, a scammer, a Doxxer and a wannabe intellectual who Trolls anyone gullible to believe he knows anything beyond his stash of trivial pursuit cards.



He's drunk,
he's the type of patron that the bouncers throw out of pubs.   :-[

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jasin on Dec 1st, 2024 at 9:31pm
Yep. He's like that drunken big mouth David Hookes.
Often thrown out of pubs for being a drunken know it all turd with a big mouth of bullshyte

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jovial Monk on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 6:22am
Pity hardly anyone here has the intelligence to develop a hypothetical situation. Would have been fun, might have been productive.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Bobby. on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 6:28am

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 6:22am:
Pity hardly anyone here has the intelligence to develop a hypothetical situation.
Would have been fun, might have been productive.



Monk,
it would stuff all difference if Australia sent 10,000 troops to Ukraine.
Only NATO with maybe 500,000 troops could ensure that Ukraine wins the war.
It would also cost 100s of $billions.

Think back to 1991 and the Gulf War.
That's what would be needed.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jovial Monk on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 6:41am
Not really, there is the factor of the morale of the Ukrainian fighters if someone came to join them. I have mentioned this but I guess you didn’t read that.

I also mentioned the troops would have the proper complement of armor, artillery and air support, all things Ukraine desperately needs.

Some very new Aussie weapons could be brought with the troops.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jovial Monk on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 6:42am
I haven’t mentioned Navy—Turkey would likely not let warships into Ukraine.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Bobby. on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 6:46am

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 6:41am:
Not really, there is the factor of the morale of the Ukrainian fighters if someone came to join them. I have mentioned this but I guess you didn’t read that.

I also mentioned the troops would have the proper complement of armor, artillery and air support, all things Ukraine desperately needs.

Some very new Aussie weapons could be brought with the troops.



Forget it Monk,

Aussie troops would end up either dead or in a Russian Gulag.   ::)

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jovial Monk on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 6:59am
Like I said‚ lack of intelligence here.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Setanta on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 10:39am

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 6:42am:
I haven’t mentioned Navy—Turkey would likely not let warships into Ukraine.



Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 7:09pm:
NZ/UK and who else? The RN in the Black Sea? No more problems with Ukraine exporting its vital wheat.


Hmmm,  :-?

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 2:44pm
Ras is thinking of throwing in the towel.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Bobby. on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 2:55pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 6:46am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 6:41am:
Not really, there is the factor of the morale of the Ukrainian fighters if someone came to join them. I have mentioned this but I guess you didn’t read that.

I also mentioned the troops would have the proper complement of armor, artillery and air support, all things Ukraine desperately needs.

Some very new Aussie weapons could be brought with the troops.



Forget it Monk,

Aussie troops would end up either dead or in a Russian Gulag.   ::)



Monk is a silly old drunken fool.

Every country in Europe has thought long and hard about joining the war in Ukraine.
Every one of them has declined yet Monk thinks we -
on the other side of the world, should get involved.   ::)

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jovial Monk on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 5:27pm
You truly are an idiot or maybe you have been hitting the cooking sherry.

Look up the meaning of “hypothetical.”


As I said, not enough intelligent members left to develop and explore a hypothetical proposition.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by chimera on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 6:03pm
Australia's cardboard drones were a smash hit. A hollow boomerang with jet fuel has wing-tip jets and drone control. A hypersonic didjeridoo is also on the way.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jovial Monk on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 6:17pm
They are very effective. Waxed cardboard shipped in flatpacks, assembled and held together with rubber bands. Sounds like a toy but isn’t.

It is very stealthy, with only the battery visible to radar. They have a good range and effective payload.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by chimera on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 6:40pm
The Uluru Mk 666 tank is cardboard with multiple rubber-bands as the engine. The short range catapult lobs grenades onto ruzzians and retreats before the grenade is chucked back.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Setanta on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 6:56pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 5:27pm:
You truly are an idiot or maybe you have been hitting the cooking sherry.

Look up the meaning of “hypothetical.”


As I said, not enough intelligent members left to develop and explore a hypothetical proposition.


Hypothetically we could just send you to bore them all to death.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jasin on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 7:20pm
I don't think any members agree with any posts Monk has frothed up here, except in regards to him making a fool of himself as usual.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Bobby. on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 7:22pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 2:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 6:46am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 6:41am:
Not really, there is the factor of the morale of the Ukrainian fighters if someone came to join them. I have mentioned this but I guess you didn’t read that.

I also mentioned the troops would have the proper complement of armor, artillery and air support, all things Ukraine desperately needs.

Some very new Aussie weapons could be brought with the troops.



Forget it Monk,

Aussie troops would end up either dead or in a Russian Gulag.   ::)



Monk is a silly old drunken fool.

Every country in Europe has thought long and hard about joining the war in Ukraine.
Every one of them has declined yet Monk thinks we -
on the other side of the world, should get involved.   ::)





Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 5:27pm:
You truly are an idiot or maybe you have been hitting the cooking sherry.

Look up the meaning of “hypothetical.”


As I said, not enough intelligent members left to develop and explore a hypothetical proposition.



Go to AA - get off the grog.   ::)

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jovial Monk on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 7:36pm
You have not yet provided any evidence that JS and LTYC are Marxists.

If, as I suspect, you have no evidence, should you not remove their names from your stupid list?

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Bobby. on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 7:37pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 7:20pm:
I don't think any members agree with any posts Monk has frothed up here, except in regards to him making a fool of himself as usual.



He's getting worse.    :o

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jasin on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 7:38pm
He does that when he's desperate😆

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Bobby. on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 7:39pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 7:38pm:
He does that when he's desperate😆



He just keeps digging a deeper and deeper hole -

he doesn't know when to quit.    ::)


Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Bobby. on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 7:40pm

Every country in Europe has thought long and hard about joining the war in Ukraine.
Every one of them has declined yet Monk thinks we -
on the other side of the world, should get involved.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jasin on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 7:42pm
Monk wants to send Aussie 18 & 19 year olds to fight in a war between ex Soviets. What an idiot

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Bobby. on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 7:43pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 7:42pm:
Monk wants to send Aussie 18 & 19 year olds to fight in a war between ex Soviets. What an idiot



Monk needs to print out this thread and take it to his doctor.   :-[

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jasin on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 7:44pm
😆😆

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by chimera on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 8:57pm
The West Sydney Leb Regiment is at full strength for drive by shootings and fire bombing.  Beirut volunteers are ready to go.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jovial Monk on Dec 3rd, 2024 at 8:18am

chimera wrote on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 8:57pm:
The West Sydney Leb Regiment is at full strength for drive by shootings and fire bombing.  Beirut volunteers are ready to go.


;D

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jasin on Dec 3rd, 2024 at 3:47pm

chimera wrote on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 8:57pm:
The West Sydney Leb Regiment is at full strength for drive by shootings and fire bombing.  Beirut volunteers are ready to go.


Americans have the Superbowl.
During the Cronulla riots
We had the Punchbowl

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by UnSubRocky on Dec 3rd, 2024 at 4:12pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 3rd, 2024 at 3:47pm:

chimera wrote on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 8:57pm:
The West Sydney Leb Regiment is at full strength for drive by shootings and fire bombing.  Beirut volunteers are ready to go.


Americans have the Superbowl.
During the Cronulla riots
We had the Punchbowl


;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jovial Monk on Dec 7th, 2024 at 3:46pm
Australia's Secret Weapon: JDAM-ERs for Ukraine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPNiTMTdN1Q&ab_channel=WesO%27Donnell

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Jasin on Dec 7th, 2024 at 4:14pm
Ukraine is none of our business

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Bobby. on Dec 7th, 2024 at 6:10pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 4:14pm:
Ukraine is none of our business



We got involved in WW1 and WW2 in Europe and North Africa.

Seems we haven't learnt our lesson yet.   :-[

What did we get for it?
Did any country in Europe especially France give us
a little bit of sovereign European territory -
even 50 square miles? - 5 square miles? - 1 square mile?
No - we got nothing.

We should have been given a piece of land like Monte Carlo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monte_Carlo

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by chimera on Dec 7th, 2024 at 6:18pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 6:10pm:
What did we get for it?

Austria?

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Bobby. on Dec 7th, 2024 at 6:23pm

chimera wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 6:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 6:10pm:
What did we get for it?

Austria?



We got nothing -

we couldn't even immigrate easily to France or England.

I remember France in the 1980s -
you couldn't get a job there and they made sure of that by forcing employers by law
to pay people directly into a French bank account -
guess what ?  - an Australian was not allowed to have a French bank account.
The British were also deporting many Aussies.
European Govts are arseholes.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by chimera on Dec 7th, 2024 at 6:34pm
Australian troops held Ypres, Fromelles, Bullecourt, Pozières and Villers-Bretonneux. The ground is a bit rough but grows a few sheep and grapes.  Just be a  digger with the Ashes.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by Bobby. on Dec 7th, 2024 at 6:38pm

chimera wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 6:34pm:
Australian troops held Ypres, Fromelles, Bullecourt, Pozières and Villers-Bretonneux. The ground is a bit rough but grows a few sheep and grapes.  Just be a  digger with the Ashes.



Aussies and Kiwis died only to have their progeny kicked in the guts for it.

Title: Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine?
Post by chimera on Dec 7th, 2024 at 6:43pm
Menzies offered Melbourne to the Yanks but they went to Brisbane to fight the locals. They used to own Holden.

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