Daves2017 wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 9:43am:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 11:57am: So your argument is that climate change is a hoax and coal will continue to be exported at the current rate....As the world moves away from fossil fuel how do you expect Australia to maintain it's current levels of exports....The Coalition are taking more fossil fuels and no investment in renewable energy to the next election....Australia cannot afford Peter Dutton and the Coal industry running the country??? :-? :-? :-? I don’t believe climate change is a hoax. The science is there, the history of the planet clearly shows the climate is constantly changing. I’m doubtful that any intervention by ourselves is going to change that and could possibly make it worse. We need a mix of energy sources but there is only two schools of opposing thought and that’s unfortunate.

freediver wrote on Nov 28^th, 2024 at 12:35pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 7:30pm: freediver wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 2:51pm: Daves2017 wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 10:57am: freediver wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:53am: Quote: I’m doubtful that any intervention by ourselves is going to change that and could possibly make it worse. Is there any thought behind this? If so, what is it? I believe human history is littered with examples of humans believing they were helping the environment and unfortunately the exactly opposite was the result. For all our technology and engineering expertise and good intentions I’m cautious of backing only one path forward. Do you think that burning up all the underground carbon deposits we can find is not an intervention in the global climate, but refraining from doing so is an intervention? I quite honestly believe that Australia contribution to world is so small to be irrelevant. For all the fist pumping we are a isolated country with a very small population and economy. In world terms if they blink Australia wouldn’t be on the map Are you having difficulty understanding the question Dave?

freediver wrote on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 11:07am:

Daves2017 wrote on Nov 29th, 2024 at 7:06pm: Quite possible? What are you asking exactly that my answer hasn’t answered? I’m happy too expand if you give me the direction for what your seeking and after I bathe the cat. Do you think that burning up all the underground carbon deposits we can find is not an intervention in the global climate, but refraining from doing so is an intervention?

Dave?

Daves2017 wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 9:43am:

I don’t believe climate change is a hoax. The science is there, the history of the planet clearly shows the climate is constantly changing. I’m doubtful that any intervention by ourselves is going to change that......and could possibly make it worse. We need a mix of energy sources but there is only two schools of opposing thought and that’s unfortunate.

Sounds reasonable to me dave.




ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE.....OR, THE SAME ONE.....

'Money talks', and there is money in energy, even in coal and oil.

'Money talks', but we all know that pursuing money, isn't always right.

But there is no real virtue, in sitting in a circle,
in the cold and in the dark and singing Kumbaya.
......while China builds 100's of new coal fired power stations every year.  [the # may be incorrect]

curse, darkness, light, candle, ....better.




The influence of the sun and its cycles probably have the most significant impact upon long term heating and cooling cycles on our planet.   ???

Carbon dioxide is good.

Plants like it.

No so ?

freediver wrote on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 9:31pm:

Dave?

Sorry, just saw this. What pathetic little game would you like to play to entertain your feeble mind?

I’ll go first-

This statement is a lie.

Why isn't this thread in the Environment forum? -

like numerous other misplaced threads.  ::)

Daves2017 wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2024 at 4:02pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 9:31pm: Dave? Sorry, just saw this. What pathetic little game would you like to play to entertain your feeble mind? I’ll go first- This statement is a lie.

Are you saying your name is not really Dave? Do you want me to call you Daves, and if so, how of you are there?

Do you think that burning up all the underground carbon deposits we can find is not an intervention in the global climate, but refraining from doing so is an intervention?