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Message started by MeisterEckhart on Dec 4th, 2024 at 7:37am

Title: The Dark Side of Joe Rogan's Gullibility
Post by MeisterEckhart on Dec 4th, 2024 at 7:37am
During the Trump interview, Rogan referred to 'The View' panel and how they all loved Trump before he ran for office - to which Trump agreed and added more to the story.

Rogan said he couldn't play the clip to prove it due to possible copyright issues. He had watched the clip, himself, however.

However, Whoopi Goldberg, who Rogan had named as one who'd hugged Trump, did release the clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dZqb7WXoY8

Rogan -  less than 30 seconds into the Trump interview:

[olist]“One of the things I wanted to talk to you about… I wanted to play this but we decided we shouldn’t play it because [we don’t want a copyright strike]…

“It was the episode of you when you were on ‘The View’… And I think it was 2015 or 20…6… like.. it was when you were running for president.

And you got introduced as ‘our friend Donald Trump’. Whoopi Goldberg gives you a big hug and a kiss, Joy Behar gives you a big hug. Barbara Walters gives you a big hug. They all loved you…

“They were talking about you in such a favourable light, The audience was cheering…”

“And then you actually started winning in the polls and then the machines started working towards you…”

[/olist]

So, given that Rogan knew the clip was from March 2011, not 2015 or 2016, and that Trump was not greeted with 'hugs and love', he knew he was misrepresenting 'The View' clip.

Also, given Rogan is usually careful with similar clips in other episodes, he was probably instructed to use the clip as 'evidence' that Trump was roundly loved just before running for president.

Even Rogan would know how untrue that was, particularly in New York.


Title: Re: The Dark Side of Joe Rogan's Gullibility
Post by Frank on Dec 4th, 2024 at 8:04am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 4th, 2024 at 7:37am:
During the Trump interview, Rogan referred to 'The View' panel and how they all loved Trump before he ran for office - to which Trump agreed and added more to the story.

Rogan said he couldn't play the clip to prove it due to possible copyright issues. He had watched the clip, himself, however.

However, Whoopi Goldberg, who Rogan had named as one who'd hugged Trump, did release the clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dZqb7WXoY8

Rogan -  less than 30 seconds into the Trump interview:

[olist]“One of the things I wanted to talk to you about… I wanted to play this but we decided we shouldn’t play it because [we don’t want a copyright strike]…

“It was the episode of you when you were on ‘The View’… And I think it was 2015 or 20…6… like.. it was when you were running for president.

And you got introduced as ‘our friend Donald Trump’. Whoopi Goldberg gives you a big hug and a kiss, Joy Behar gives you a big hug. Barbara Walters gives you a big hug. They all loved you…

“They were talking about you in such a favourable light, The audience was cheering…”

“And then you actually started winning in the polls and then the machines started working towards you…”

[/olist]

So, given that Rogan knew the clip was from March 2011, not 2015 or 2016, and that Trump was not greeted with 'hugs and love', he knew he was misrepresenting 'The View' clip.

Also, given Rogan is usually careful with similar clips in other episodes, he was probably instructed to use the clip as 'evidence' that Trump was roundly loved just before running for president.

Even Rogan would know how untrue that was, particularly in New York.




Well, they all kissed and hugged him, including Whoopsy.
The audience was ecstatic.
Trump was introduced as Barbara's friend, with acknowledging his possible presidential aspirations. So no secrets there.
Whoopsy was upset because Trump said O'bama should release his birth cert coz no white prez has ever been asked to. Well, no white prez was half Kenyan and brought up in Indonesia.

So 2015 or 2011? Irrelevant to the points.


Title: Re: The Dark Side of Joe Rogan's Gullibility
Post by MeisterEckhart on Dec 4th, 2024 at 8:14am
All the 'hugs and kisses' from 'The View' panel are known as 'stage kisses' usually between men and women - as an expression of professional politeness, not genuine emotion. Rogan, of course, knows this, having been an actor and commentator for decades.

Rogan specifically mentioned that the clip was from 2015/2016 and that the love only stopped when 'the machines started working towards [Trump]', misrepresenting the panel's presenters' attitude towards Trump's actual presidential run by 4 years.

Title: Re: The Dark Side of Joe Rogan's Gullibility
Post by MeisterEckhart on Dec 4th, 2024 at 8:29am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 4th, 2024 at 8:14am:
All the 'hugs and kisses' from 'The View' panel are known as 'stage kisses' usually between men and women - as an expression of professional politeness, not genuine emotion. Rogan, of course, knows this, having been an actor and commentator for decades.

Rogan specifically mentioned that the clip was from 2015/2016 and that the love only stopped when 'the machines started working towards [Trump]', misrepresenting the panel's presenters' attitude towards Trump's actual presidential run by 4 years.

Adding to Rogan's timing misrepresentation is that Trump had mouthed off about running for president since the 90s.

Rogan, of course, was also aware of this.

Trump withdrew his candidacy in May 2011.

When he finally announced his candidacy in June 2015, he immediately met with anger and contempt when he derided Mexicans in his candidacy speech, so Rogan's misrepresenting the timing of his 'The View' interview as recorded during 2015/2016 is particularly revealing of the intent of Rogan's misrepresentation.



Title: Re: The Dark Side of Joe Rogan's Gullibility
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Dec 4th, 2024 at 9:05am
Why bother?  Just another useless political hack same as we've got too many of here in our major parties.  I'm down to one politician, maybe two, that I have any time for.

Title: Re: The Dark Side of Joe Rogan's Gullibility
Post by MeisterEckhart on Dec 4th, 2024 at 9:21am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 4th, 2024 at 9:05am:
Why bother?  Just another useless political hack same as we've got too many of here in our major parties.  I'm down to one politician, maybe two, that I have any time for.

What makes it relevant is that Rogan is the most popular and influential podcaster representing the so-called 'New Media', and who prides himself on 'getting to the truth' - despite his conspiracy theory obsession.

Most importantly, if anyone imagines that the 'new media' will ultimately be any more honest and journalistically diligent than the so-called 'Legacy Media', is deluded.

Also 'new media' presenters are quick to hide behind the defence that 'they are not journalists' when they're called out on bullshit, just 'someone who's just asking questions' - something that professional journalists cannot do.

Title: Re: The Dark Side of Joe Rogan's Gullibility
Post by Leroy on Dec 7th, 2024 at 7:37pm
I watched the video and at the 3 min mark Whoopie tells Trump she loves him.

But I guess her take is she was full of hatred even in 2011.

Title: Re: The Dark Side of Joe Rogan's Gullibility
Post by Leroy on Dec 7th, 2024 at 7:39pm
In all reality if it was 11/15/16 makes no difference and is a bit like organizing the deck chairs on a sinking ship.

Title: Re: The Dark Side of Joe Rogan's Gullibility
Post by Brian Ross on Dec 7th, 2024 at 7:59pm

Title: Re: The Dark Side of Joe Rogan's Gullibility
Post by MeisterEckhart on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:27pm

Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 7:37pm:
I watched the video and at the 3 min mark Whoopie tells Trump she loves him.

Is that your experience of someone expressing love, then?

Title: Re: The Dark Side of Joe Rogan's Gullibility
Post by Leroy on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:44pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:27pm:

Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 7:37pm:
I watched the video and at the 3 min mark Whoopie tells Trump she loves him.

Is that your experience of someone expressing love, then?


No its my ability to watch a video and hear the sound. Having said that I only have 35% hearing in my left ear and I wear glasses so you need to take that into account.

Title: Re: The Dark Side of Joe Rogan's Gullibility
Post by MeisterEckhart on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:54pm

Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:44pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:27pm:

Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 7:37pm:
I watched the video and at the 3 min mark Whoopie tells Trump she loves him.

Is that your experience of someone expressing love, then?


No its my ability to watch a video and hear the sound. Having said that I only have 35% hearing in my left ear and I wear glasses so you need to take that into account.

OK... well, when you're on a TV panel, it used to be common practice to use polite vernacular that mirrors the guest's.

Trump first told Goldberg that 'he loved her'. Of course, he didn't mean it in the deepest sense... Goldberg snapped back in kind without looking at him and then went on to berate him about his Obama birther conspiracy.

So, not an expression of genuine love.

I reckon what's left of your hearing and sight should be enough to confirm that, unless, maybe, you've never heard the term from a non-bot.

Title: Re: The Dark Side of Joe Rogan's Gullibility
Post by Leroy on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:59pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:54pm:

Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:44pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:27pm:

Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 7:37pm:
I watched the video and at the 3 min mark Whoopie tells Trump she loves him.

Is that your experience of someone expressing love, then?


No its my ability to watch a video and hear the sound. Having said that I only have 35% hearing in my left ear and I wear glasses so you need to take that into account.

OK... well, when you're on a TV panel, it used to be common practice to use polite vernacular that mirrors the guest's.

Trump first told Goldberg that 'he loved her'. Of course, he didn't mean it in the deepest sense... Goldberg snapped back in kind without looking at him and then went on to berate him about his Obama birther conspiracy.

So, not an expression of genuine love.

I reckon what's left of your hearing and sight should be enough to confirm that, unless, maybe, you've never heard the term from a non-bot.


So what are you saying. Whoopie didn't say she loved Trump around the three minute mark?.

Title: Re: The Dark Side of Joe Rogan's Gullibility
Post by Gordon on Dec 7th, 2024 at 9:00pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 4th, 2024 at 9:21am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 4th, 2024 at 9:05am:
Why bother?  Just another useless political hack same as we've got too many of here in our major parties.  I'm down to one politician, maybe two, that I have any time for.

What makes it relevant is that Rogan is the most popular and influential podcaster representing the so-called 'New Media', and who prides himself on 'getting to the truth' -


No he doesn't he just lets people talk.

Title: Re: The Dark Side of Joe Rogan's Gullibility
Post by MeisterEckhart on Dec 7th, 2024 at 9:09pm

Gordon wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 9:00pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 4th, 2024 at 9:21am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 4th, 2024 at 9:05am:
Why bother?  Just another useless political hack same as we've got too many of here in our major parties.  I'm down to one politician, maybe two, that I have any time for.

What makes it relevant is that Rogan is the most popular and influential podcaster representing the so-called 'New Media', and who prides himself on 'getting to the truth' -


No he doesn't he just lets people talk.

Listen more carefully.

Rogan often parrots stuff he thinks experts he's -previously interviewed have told him. He often gets it arse backwards.

He's at his dumbest when his guests seem to offer him some bait to continue his belief that aliens are watching us. That and any of his conspiracies and out-there beliefs.

He loves the interviewees who plug whacko conspiracy theories - like Bob Lazar or Tom O'Neill.


Title: Re: The Dark Side of Joe Rogan's Gullibility
Post by MeisterEckhart on Dec 7th, 2024 at 9:14pm

Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:59pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:54pm:

Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:44pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:27pm:

Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 7:37pm:
I watched the video and at the 3 min mark Whoopie tells Trump she loves him.

Is that your experience of someone expressing love, then?


No its my ability to watch a video and hear the sound. Having said that I only have 35% hearing in my left ear and I wear glasses so you need to take that into account.

OK... well, when you're on a TV panel, it used to be common practice to use polite vernacular that mirrors the guest's.

Trump first told Goldberg that 'he loved her'. Of course, he didn't mean it in the deepest sense... Goldberg snapped back in kind without looking at him and then went on to berate him about his Obama birther conspiracy.

So, not an expression of genuine love.

I reckon what's left of your hearing and sight should be enough to confirm that, unless, maybe, you've never heard the term from a non-bot.


So what are you saying. Whoopie didn't say she loved Trump around the three minute mark?.

I said she didn't mean she loved him any more than Trump meant it when he first said it to Goldberg.

That's a stage interaction common among non-bots, like the 'stage kiss', that Trump gave to and received from the panel when he first walked out on stage.


Title: Re: The Dark Side of Joe Rogan's Gullibility
Post by Leroy on Dec 7th, 2024 at 9:21pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 9:14pm:

Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:59pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:54pm:

Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:44pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:27pm:

Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 7:37pm:
I watched the video and at the 3 min mark Whoopie tells Trump she loves him.

Is that your experience of someone expressing love, then?


No its my ability to watch a video and hear the sound. Having said that I only have 35% hearing in my left ear and I wear glasses so you need to take that into account.

OK... well, when you're on a TV panel, it used to be common practice to use polite vernacular that mirrors the guest's.

Trump first told Goldberg that 'he loved her'. Of course, he didn't mean it in the deepest sense... Goldberg snapped back in kind without looking at him and then went on to berate him about his Obama birther conspiracy.

So, not an expression of genuine love.

I reckon what's left of your hearing and sight should be enough to confirm that, unless, maybe, you've never heard the term from a non-bot.


So what are you saying. Whoopie didn't say she loved Trump around the three minute mark?.

I said she didn't mean she loved him any more than Trump meant it when he first said it to Goldberg.

That's a stage interaction common among non-bots, like the 'stage kiss', that Trump gave to and received from the panel when he first walked out on stage.


So what you are saying is Whoopie was acting contrary to what she was saying.

Is that what the new media lack?.



Title: Re: The Dark Side of Joe Rogan's Gullibility
Post by MeisterEckhart on Dec 7th, 2024 at 9:25pm

Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 9:21pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 9:14pm:

Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:59pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:54pm:

Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:44pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:27pm:

Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 7:37pm:
I watched the video and at the 3 min mark Whoopie tells Trump she loves him.

Is that your experience of someone expressing love, then?


No its my ability to watch a video and hear the sound. Having said that I only have 35% hearing in my left ear and I wear glasses so you need to take that into account.

OK... well, when you're on a TV panel, it used to be common practice to use polite vernacular that mirrors the guest's.

Trump first told Goldberg that 'he loved her'. Of course, he didn't mean it in the deepest sense... Goldberg snapped back in kind without looking at him and then went on to berate him about his Obama birther conspiracy.

So, not an expression of genuine love.

I reckon what's left of your hearing and sight should be enough to confirm that, unless, maybe, you've never heard the term from a non-bot.


So what are you saying. Whoopie didn't say she loved Trump around the three minute mark?.

I said she didn't mean she loved him any more than Trump meant it when he first said it to Goldberg.

That's a stage interaction common among non-bots, like the 'stage kiss', that Trump gave to and received from the panel when he first walked out on stage.


So what you are saying is Whoopie was acting contrary to what she was saying.

Is that what the new media lack?.


Have you ever left your house?

When non-bots, say, 'how are you?' or 'pleased to meet you', do you think they always mean it?

Title: Re: The Dark Side of Joe Rogan's Gullibility
Post by Frank on Dec 7th, 2024 at 9:35pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 9:09pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 9:00pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 4th, 2024 at 9:21am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 4th, 2024 at 9:05am:
Why bother?  Just another useless political hack same as we've got too many of here in our major parties.  I'm down to one politician, maybe two, that I have any time for.

What makes it relevant is that Rogan is the most popular and influential podcaster representing the so-called 'New Media', and who prides himself on 'getting to the truth' -


No he doesn't he just lets people talk.

Listen more carefully.

Rogan often parrots stuff he thinks experts he's -previously interviewed have told him. He often gets it arse backwards.

Sounds like the ABC and the Granuiad.

Title: Re: The Dark Side of Joe Rogan's Gullibility
Post by Leroy on Dec 7th, 2024 at 10:06pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 9:25pm:
Have you ever left your house?

When non-bots, say, 'how are you?' or 'pleased to meet you', do you think they always mean it?


I get it, you are telling me not to believe anything they say on the view.



Title: Re: The Dark Side of Joe Rogan's Gullibility
Post by MeisterEckhart on Dec 7th, 2024 at 10:07pm

Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 10:06pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 9:25pm:
Have you ever left your house?

When non-bots, say, 'how are you?' or 'pleased to meet you', do you think they always mean it?


I get it, you are telling me not to believe anything they say on the view.

I'm telling you that you should try out talking to non-bots.

Title: Re: The Dark Side of Joe Rogan's Gullibility
Post by Leroy on Dec 7th, 2024 at 10:10pm
[/quote]
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 9:25pm:


Have you ever left your house?

When non-bots, say, 'how are you?' or 'pleased to meet you', do you think they always mean it?


We don't have non-bots here and "gadday" is the accepted conversation.

Oh yeah if it has rained 28mm+ then you can say "bin a bit wet"

Title: Re: The Dark Side of Joe Rogan's Gullibility
Post by MeisterEckhart on Dec 7th, 2024 at 10:18pm

Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 10:10pm:
We don't have non-bots here and "gadday" is the accepted conversation.

Oh yeah if it has rained 28mm+ then you can say "bin a bit wet"

There, you see! You get ironic humour... a good start.

Title: Re: The Dark Side of Joe Rogan's Gullibility
Post by SerialBrain9 on Dec 8th, 2024 at 8:36am
Whoops - wrong thread

Title: Re: The Dark Side of Joe Rogan's Gullibility
Post by SerialBrain9 on Dec 8th, 2024 at 8:44am

Title: Re: The Dark Side of Joe Rogan's Gullibility
Post by MeisterEckhart on Dec 8th, 2024 at 8:51am

SerialBrain9 wrote on Dec 8th, 2024 at 8:36am:
The Conspiracy Theorists are the new Truth Tellers…

So, the moon landing was faked? Aliens exist and are watching over us? The Bush Administration orchestrated 9/11? Prince Phillip had Princess Diana assassinated? The Sandy Hook school massacre never happened?

Conspiracy Theorists are what they have always been - paranoids who occasionally jag one.

Title: Re: The Dark Side of Joe Rogan's Gullibility
Post by SerialBrain9 on Dec 8th, 2024 at 8:55am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 8th, 2024 at 8:51am:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Dec 8th, 2024 at 8:36am:
The Conspiracy Theorists are the new Truth Tellers…

So, the moon landing was faked? Aliens exist and are watching over us? The Bush Administration orchestrated 9/11? Prince Phillip had Princess Diana assassinated? The Sandy Hook school massacre never happened?

Conspiracy Theorists are what they have always been - paranoids who occasionally jag one.


No,

We’ve never been to the moon - especially in that thing made of Curtain Rods covered in Cellophane and Duct Tape  ;D

Title: Re: The Dark Side of Joe Rogan's Gullibility
Post by Leroy on Dec 8th, 2024 at 8:56am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 8th, 2024 at 8:51am:
Conspiracy Theorists are what they have always been - paranoids who occasionally jag one.


So not to dissimilar to everyone else.

Title: Re: The Dark Side of Joe Rogan's Gullibility
Post by SerialBrain9 on Dec 8th, 2024 at 9:00am
In regards to 9/11

I believe all files are to be declassified next year under the Trump administration along with the JFK files

We can all agree that our Governments lie to us Nonstop - so why would you believe them on anything?

Title: Re: The Dark Side of Joe Rogan's Gullibility
Post by Leroy on Dec 8th, 2024 at 9:13am

SerialBrain9 wrote on Dec 8th, 2024 at 8:55am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 8th, 2024 at 8:51am:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Dec 8th, 2024 at 8:36am:
The Conspiracy Theorists are the new Truth Tellers…

So, the moon landing was faked? Aliens exist and are watching over us? The Bush Administration orchestrated 9/11? Prince Phillip had Princess Diana assassinated? The Sandy Hook school massacre never happened?

Conspiracy Theorists are what they have always been - paranoids who occasionally jag one.


No,

We’ve never been to the moon - especially in that thing made of Curtain Rods covered in Cellophane and Duct Tape  ;D


I dont know for sure if they did walk on the moon, I believe they did but if it was fake then I would like to thank whoever organized it. We got half a day off school and free food plus I got to watch TV for the first time. It would be amazing to find that they did all this just to give some kids a great day.

Title: Re: The Dark Side of Joe Rogan's Gullibility
Post by Carl D on Dec 8th, 2024 at 9:18am

SerialBrain9 wrote on Dec 8th, 2024 at 8:44am:
Ivermectin and/with hydroxychloroquine are SAFE powerful antiviral medications…


I can attest to this and also use it monthly for wellbeing

There is also new research out showing that Ivermectin, Fenbendozole and other off the shelf medications can also help/cure Cancer …


That would go a long way towards explaining a few things.

Ivermectin and COVID-19 misinformation

Hydroxychloroquine and COVID-19

Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine during the COVID-19 pandemic

Watch out for that Hydroxychloroquine though... don't do something like this:

Arizona man dies after attempting to take Trump coronavirus 'cure'


Quote:
A Phoenix-area man has died and his wife was in critical condition after the couple took chloroquine phosphate, an additive used to clean fish tanks that is also found in an anti-malaria medication touted by Donald Trump as a treatment for Covid-19.

Banner Health said on Monday the couple in their 60s got sick within half an hour of ingesting the additive. The man could not be resuscitated at hospital but the woman was able to throw up much of the chemical.

“Trump kept saying it was basically pretty much a cure,” the woman told NBC.

She said her advice would be: “Don’t take anything. Don’t believe anything. Don’t believe anything that the president says and his people … call your doctor.”


Just one of many deaths caused by Trump during his first Presidency... and I'm sure there will be many, many more during his second. Especially with that antivaxxer nutter RFK Jr. in charge of "Health".

Oh, and whatever you do, don't inject yourself with disinfectant (please tell me you're not doing that as well).  :D

With every post you make I'm more and more convinced you're a Sir Nail sock but it isn't easy to tell seeing as all of you antivaxxers and conspiracy nutters all say the same things, all the time (kinda like the Borg Collective but instead of perfection, you're all striving for total stupidity).

:)

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