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Title: Daniel Penny free Post by Leroy on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:20am
Bidens DOJ tried everything they have to lock up hero Daniel Penny who protected women and children from a unhinged democrat on the subway.
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Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by freediver on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:52am
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn4xxz19m27o
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Is that all Mr Neely did? |
Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by Leroy on Dec 7th, 2024 at 9:07am
Trump should give this guy a bravery medal.
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Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by John Smith on Dec 7th, 2024 at 9:30am Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 9:07am:
for killing a starving homeless man? What a hero ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by Leroy on Dec 7th, 2024 at 9:37am John Smith wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 9:30am:
Hopefully Elon will give this guy a mil or two. But it is great to see the courts finally protect good people, things are changing with Trump taking charge. |
Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by chimera on Dec 7th, 2024 at 10:09am Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 9:37am:
Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:20am:
yo sure nuff one mixed up honky. |
Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 7th, 2024 at 10:10am John Smith wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 9:30am:
You think Trump hasn't done the same? |
Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by Leroy on Dec 7th, 2024 at 10:13am
Trump will see that Penny is taken care of for the rest of his life, thats what a generous person like Trump does.
I can see a bright future for Penny now that he is recognized as a hero and very brave person. |
Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by chimera on Dec 7th, 2024 at 10:19am
Do you have a life apart from images of your orange daddy?
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Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by Leroy on Dec 7th, 2024 at 10:28am chimera wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 10:19am:
No I also have videos, copied speeches, dolls, stickers, yard signs, caps, shirts, pens, badges, songs, letters and many other keepsakes just like most normal people. |
Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by Leroy on Dec 7th, 2024 at 10:30am
chimera what do you have maybe we could do some swaps, I'm looking for unusual things, do you have any locks of Trumps hair.
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Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by Gordon on Dec 7th, 2024 at 10:48am
A mother with a child testified that Neely charged at passengers, and she shielded herself and her child behind a stroller, believing she might die.[11] Prosecutors later highlighted a witness saying that Neely's actions felt common to him due to him frequently interacting with and witnessing outbursts on public transit. Conversely, defense attorneys quoted a witness stating that she had been riding the subway for years but had never encountered a person who "put fear into" her as much as Neely did.[12
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Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by chimera on Dec 7th, 2024 at 12:24pm Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 10:28am:
And you want some hair for your pensioner doll? |
Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by Frank on Dec 7th, 2024 at 12:35pm Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:20am:
Prosecutors Warn Daniel Penny Acquittal Could Lead To Rampant Acts Of Heroism |
Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by Frank on Dec 7th, 2024 at 2:28pm Frank wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 12:35pm:
Contrast that with this: Here is another recurring subject of this new century: We are closer than any society should be to the end of men - which is a big source of the terrible confusion in our schools that has led girls to offer themselves up for bodily mutilation in pursuit of a delusion. In the dismantling of manhood and manliness, no lie is too outrageous. So today, December 6th, marks the thirty-fifth anniversary of the "Montreal Massacre" - a grim day in 1989 when fourteen female students at the École Polytechnique were murdered by a man known to posterity as "Marc Lépine". Much followed from that terrible slaughter, including various useless "gun control" measures - and the formal annual commemorations that, a third-of-a-century on, are attended by as many eminences as Remembrance Day or Dominion Day. The men present in that classroom are now pushing sixty; the women are not. M Lépine was born Gamil Gharbi, the son of an Algerian Muslim wife-beater, whose brutalized spouse told the court at their divorce hearing that her husband "had a total disdain for women and believed they were intended only to serve men." At eighteen, young Gamil took his mother's maiden name. The Gazette in Montreal mentioned this in its immediate reports of the massacre. The name "Gamil Gharbi" has not sullied its pages in the thirteen years since. ... When another Canadian director, James Cameron, filmed Titanic, what most titillated him were the alleged betrayals of convention. It's supposed to be "women and children first", but he was obsessed with toffs cutting in line, cowardly men elbowing the womenfolk out of the way and scrambling for the lifeboats, etc. In fact, all the historical evidence is that the evacuation was very orderly. In real life, First Officer William Murdoch threw deckchairs to passengers drowning in the water to give them something to cling to, and then he went down with the ship – the dull, decent thing, all very British, with no fuss. In Cameron's movie, Murdoch takes a bribe and murders a third-class passenger. (The director subsequently apologized to the First Officer's home town in Scotland and offered Ł5,000 toward a memorial. Gee, thanks.) Mr Cameron notwithstanding, the male passengers gave their lives for the women, and would never have considered doing otherwise. "An alien landed" on the deck of a luxury liner – and men had barely an hour to kiss their wives goodbye, and watch them clamber into the lifeboats to sail off without them. The social norm of "women and children first" held up under pressure. Today, in what Harvey Mansfield calls our "gender-neutral society", there are no social norms. Eight decades after the Titanic, a German-built ferry en route from Estonia to Sweden sank in the Baltic Sea. Of the 1,051 passengers, only 139 lived to tell the tale. But the distribution of the survivors was very different from that of the Titanic. Women and children first? No female under 15 or over 65 made it. Only five per cent of all women passengers lived. The bulk of the survivors were young men. Forty-three per cent of men aged 20-24 made it. "There is no law that says women and children first," Roger Kohen of the International Maritime Organization told Time magazine. "That is something from the age of chivalry." If, by "the age of chivalry", you mean the early 20th century. As I said, no two maritime disasters are the same. But it's not unfair to conclude that, had the men of the Titanic been on the Estonia, the age and sex distribution of the survivors would have been very different. Nor was there a social norm at the École Polytechnique. So the men walked away, and the women died. Whenever I've written about these issues, I get a lot of e-mails from guys scoffing, "Oh, right, Steyn. Like you'd be taking a bullet. You'd be pissing your little girlie panties," etc. Well, maybe I would. But as the Toronto blogger Kathy Shaidle put it: When we say 'we don't know what we'd do under the same circumstances', we make cowardice the default position. I prefer the word passivity – a terrible, corrosive passivity. Even if I'm wetting my panties, it's better to have the social norm of the Titanic and fail to live up to it than to have the social norm of the Polytechnique and sink with it. https://www.steynonline.com/14809/men-walked-away |
Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by Leroy on Dec 7th, 2024 at 2:38pm Frank wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 12:35pm:
That would be wonderful, imagine letting your children walk to the shops alone or parking your car and not having to lock it. |
Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by Karnal on Dec 7th, 2024 at 3:23pm Frank wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 12:35pm:
Not satire, dear boy, but it captures the message nicely. What it doesn't capture is the medium. Daniel Penny, Marine, is the darling of Tim Pool, Dave Rubin, Benny Johnson et al, social influencers who like to rant, rave, hiss and boo about important Culture Wars topics of the day like this. It's all about the struggle, you see, of white male heroes, saving our community from tyrannical homeless Jigaboos and ne'er do wells. It's a cause that can be traced directly back to, ooh - guess-who. Yes, just like their Dear Leader himself, their talking points are funded by no less than Vlad himself, who is taking up the struggle of the proud white man to fight fascism, tyranny and injustice - for a fee, of course. In Tim, Dave and Benny's case, $10 mil, before it all came out. WITCH HUNT !!! Ever get the feeling you've been farmed? |
Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by Karnal on Dec 7th, 2024 at 3:38pm Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 2:38pm:
I know, right? Or a multicultural ghetto where kids play on the street, worshippers at the mosque on the corner say hi and you leave your front door unlocked when you go to the shops. Imagine a safe, urban neighbourhood with little or no crime, where everybody's good neighbours and you can catch the train without anybody getting choked to death. It's easy if you try, dear. We do. You? |
Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by Frank on Dec 7th, 2024 at 3:56pm Frank wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 12:35pm:
Contrast that with this: Here is another recurring subject of this new century: We are closer than any society should be to the end of men - which is a big source of the terrible confusion in our schools that has led girls to offer themselves up for bodily mutilation in pursuit of a delusion. In the dismantling of manhood and manliness, no lie is too outrageous. So today, December 6th, marks the thirty-fifth anniversary of the "Montreal Massacre" - a grim day in 1989 when fourteen female students at the École Polytechnique were murdered by a man known to posterity as "Marc Lépine". Marc Lépine walked in with a gun and told all the men to leave the room. They meekly did as ordered. He then shot all the women. Much followed from that terrible slaughter, including various useless "gun control" measures - and the formal annual commemorations that, a third-of-a-century on, are attended by as many eminences as Remembrance Day or Dominion Day. The men present in that classroom are now pushing sixty; the women are not. M Lépine was born Gamil Gharbi, the son of an Algerian Muslim wife-beater, whose brutalized spouse told the court at their divorce hearing that her husband "had a total disdain for women and believed they were intended only to serve men." At eighteen, young Gamil took his mother's maiden name. The Gazette in Montreal mentioned this in its immediate reports of the massacre. The name "Gamil Gharbi" has not sullied its pages in the thirteen years since. ... When another Canadian director, James Cameron, filmed Titanic, what most titillated him were the alleged betrayals of convention. It's supposed to be "women and children first", but he was obsessed with toffs cutting in line, cowardly men elbowing the womenfolk out of the way and scrambling for the lifeboats, etc. In fact, all the historical evidence is that the evacuation was very orderly. In real life, First Officer William Murdoch threw deckchairs to passengers drowning in the water to give them something to cling to, and then he went down with the ship – the dull, decent thing, all very British, with no fuss. In Cameron's movie, Murdoch takes a bribe and murders a third-class passenger. (The director subsequently apologized to the First Officer's home town in Scotland and offered Ł5,000 toward a memorial. Gee, thanks.) Mr Cameron notwithstanding, the male passengers gave their lives for the women, and would never have considered doing otherwise. "An alien landed" on the deck of a luxury liner – and men had barely an hour to kiss their wives goodbye, and watch them clamber into the lifeboats to sail off without them. The social norm of "women and children first" held up under pressure. Today, in what Harvey Mansfield calls our "gender-neutral society", there are no social norms. Eight decades after the Titanic, a German-built ferry en route from Estonia to Sweden sank in the Baltic Sea. Of the 1,051 passengers, only 139 lived to tell the tale. But the distribution of the survivors was very different from that of the Titanic. Women and children first? No female under 15 or over 65 made it. Only five per cent of all women passengers lived. The bulk of the survivors were young men. Forty-three per cent of men aged 20-24 made it. "There is no law that says women and children first," Roger Kohen of the International Maritime Organization told Time magazine. "That is something from the age of chivalry." If, by "the age of chivalry", you mean the early 20th century. As I said, no two maritime disasters are the same. But it's not unfair to conclude that, had the men of the Titanic been on the Estonia, the age and sex distribution of the survivors would have been very different. Nor was there a social norm at the École Polytechnique. So the men walked away, and the women died. Whenever I've written about these issues, I get a lot of e-mails from guys scoffing, "Oh, right, Steyn. Like you'd be taking a bullet. You'd be pissing your little girlie panties," etc. Well, maybe I would. But as the Toronto blogger Kathy Shaidle put it: When we say 'we don't know what we'd do under the same circumstances', we make cowardice the default position. I prefer the word passivity – a terrible, corrosive passivity. Even if I'm wetting my panties, it's better to have the social norm of the Titanic and fail to live up to it than to have the social norm of the Polytechnique and sink with it. https://www.steynonline.com/14809/men-walked-away |
Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by Karnal on Dec 7th, 2024 at 5:22pm Frank wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 3:56pm:
There, you see? Virtue signalling 101, innit. How to turn an act of vigilantism into one of chivalry? These are the questions of our times, but do you know? For all the high moral gesticulating and sermonizing about women and children first, remember that this is the team that excuses sexual assault, that justifies rape and death threats against E Jean, Karen McDougal, Stormy Daniels and the two Georgia election workers Rudy edited surveillance footage of to spread misinformation in his attempt to overturn the 2020 election. You, dear boy, still use these lies to pretend this election was rigged. You've declared fair game many times. You've justified violence, riots, lies, theft, blackmail, illegal conspiracies and plots. You'd justify the hypothetical murder on Fifth Avenue too, you know that. Over the years, you've played cutsie-pie, no-speaka, whatabout this, whatabout that and every other trick in the book. You've twisted, turned, squished and squirmed your superior high-moral positions so many times they're meaningless. You've been caught straight out lying and tried defending that. Yes, but what is truth, really? One man's lie is another man's truth, yes? I do feel it's an ontological matter, no? Your silly talking points on chivalry are as camp as a Carry On movie. You'd be the first to put on a wig and a dress to get in the lifeboat, and you'd preen and pout when exposed: how very dare you! Ultimately, old boy, your "ethics" apply only to others. You'll say and do whatever it takes, then you'll say and do whatever it takes to backtrack. How do we know? You've said. I trust this puts the matter to rest. |
Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by Frank on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:02pm Karnal wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 5:22pm:
You were deranged. Then you lost. You are even more deranged. You are going to suffer for the next 12 years. |
Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by Dnarever on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:09pm John Smith wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 9:30am:
To me what most accurately encapsulates the right of politics is simply the words MEAN and NASTY. It seems to be the attribute that they all share. This is the position that seems to be dominant in all they say and do. |
Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by Frank on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:12pm John Smith wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 9:30am:
:'( :'( :'( There he was terrorising with hunger. :'( :'( :'( |
Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by Karnal on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:27pm Frank wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:02pm:
Oh-er, sounds a bit rude. I say, old boy: carry on. |
Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by Frank on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:54pm Karnal wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:27pm:
Well, you are going to suffer. You are suffering before our eyes. You will probably die before there is another Dem prez. How does it feel? Pretty Faruqid up the Khyber, to coin a phrase. But you like it, in a way. Still, it coulda been Kackela. You thought she was a contender. It's all Faruqid now. Sad. |
Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by Karnal on Dec 7th, 2024 at 10:14pm Frank wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:54pm:
A Dem prez? What does that have to do with your professed virtue of chivalry? Just having a laugh, were you? Thought so. Carry on squirming, dear boy. |
Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by Leroy on Dec 10th, 2024 at 7:51am
Justice has been served.
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Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by Brian Ross on Dec 10th, 2024 at 9:56am |
Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by Mortdooley on Dec 10th, 2024 at 10:00pm
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/gregg-jarrett-daniel-penny-not-guilty-da-bragg-has-done-lasting-damage
Daniel Penny is not guilty but DA Bragg has done lasting damage The case against Marine veteran Daniel Penny should never have been brought. It was a gross injustice With its "not guilty" verdict on Monday, a Manhattan jury unanimously sent a resounding message to District Attorney Alvin Bragg that he wrongfully prosecuted a good Samaritan. A man who courageously came to the aid of subway passengers who were threatened with imminent death. Not that Bragg will pay any heed. The case against Marine veteran Daniel Penny should never have been brought. It was a gross injustice. By law, he was justified in using reasonable force —even lethal force— to subdue a maniac who vowed to murder riders the moment he entered a subway car. That man, Jordan Neely, initiated the confrontation and died as a result of his own menacing and illegal actions. Instead of being commended, Penny was pilloried as a bigoted vigilante by the usual crowd of racial justice warriors who yearned to turn Neely’s death into another George Floyd outrage. Bragg, who sees everything through the prism of race and politics, was more than happy to do their bidding. At trial, his lead prosecutor referred to Penny as "the white man." It was reprehensible. But in the end, 12 diverse jurors refused to abide the blatant race-baiting. They were well acquainted with the perils of New York’s treacherous subway system, which has experienced a 60% increase in murders this year, according to police statistics. Stabbings, shootings, beatings, and robberies now seem commonplace as criminals roam freely in the underground transit system searching out their next victims. Jurors accepted as true the testimony of passengers —some of whom are Black— that they were grateful when Penny came to their rescue. Neely terrorized them. They were panicked and stricken with fear that their lives were about to end. Far from a rogue criminal, the former marine was perceived by those in danger as their beneficent and heroic figure. Bragg didn’t care about the innocent sufferers who were threatened with death. His idea of "restorative justice" has always been centered on protecting criminals. During trial, his prosecutors contemptuously dismissed passenger accounts of what happened that terrible day while manipulating evidence to transform Neely from villain to victim. |
Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by Yadda on Dec 10th, 2024 at 10:11pm Great news. |
Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by Brian Ross on Dec 10th, 2024 at 11:21pm |
Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by Panther on Dec 11th, 2024 at 8:34am Mortdooley wrote on Dec 10th, 2024 at 10:00pm:
Daniel Penny, by virtue of the jury's solid "NOT GUILTY" verdict, will never have to suffer any further abuse or humiliation from the State's Injustice system....That Not Guilty verdict can not be ignored, & Penny will forever be protected by the Fifth Amendment to the US Constitution's "Double Jeopardy Clause". |
Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by Brian Ross on Dec 11th, 2024 at 3:12pm |
Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by Panther on Dec 13th, 2024 at 8:24am
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God Bless The United States Constitution....God Bless AMERICA! .. |
Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by philperth2010 on Dec 13th, 2024 at 8:39am
Americans are allowed to kill eachother in self defence....The homeless man didn't touch anyone he just acted crazy....A trained Marine knows how to kill and knew what he was doing....Life is cheap in the USA!!!
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Title: Daniel Penny Innocent & Free! Post by Panther on Dec 13th, 2024 at 8:59am philperth2010 wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 8:39am:
Only to the Leftist/Marxist sections of the world...... 12 Diverse American Jurists felt completely otherwise.....Unanimously, they believed the prosecution & its charges were bogus, incorrect, & totally unsupported in fact.......their unanimous vote was their testimony to their belief & to the State's failure to convince them otherwise...... Penny was unanimously declared totally innocent of ALL the State's Charges...... Justice has been served, & served well!!! |
Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by Brian Ross on Dec 13th, 2024 at 10:58am
Oh, dearie, dearie, me, you're such a Troll and an American bullshit artist, Panther. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)
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Title: Re: Daniel Penny free Post by Dnarever on Dec 13th, 2024 at 12:27pm freediver wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 8:52am:
Yes apparently being hungry deserves the death sentence administered by a vigilante. |
Title: Re: Daniel Penny Innocent & Free! Post by Dnarever on Dec 13th, 2024 at 12:30pm Panther wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 8:59am:
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Same as the ones who indicted Trump and also the 12 Diverse American Jurists who convicted him on 34 criminal counts ? |
Title: Re: Daniel Penny Innocent & Free! Post by Panther on Dec 13th, 2024 at 2:43pm Dnarever wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 12:30pm:
Every Governmental criminal prosecution has a different jury selection, with +/- 12 jurors selected to hear evidence from both the Government's prosecutor & the accused's defense attorneys, in court of law, pertaining to specific criminal charges. Penny's trial was a criminal trial, where the findings of guilt must be 100% unanimous....evidence must be proven against the defendant beyond any reasonable doubt. As in this particular criminal case, the jury found for Penny......that he was unanimously innocent of the all charges......that the State could not, & did not, prove any of its case against him, on any charge, & that Penny committed no crime whatsoever as charged, beyond any reasonable doubt. If there's an innocent verdict by the jury, the State has no right to any appeal. Therefore, Penny is completely free, & can never be tried again for the crime. .. |
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