Appeals court upholds Trump sexual abuse finding in E Jean Carroll case

A US appeals court has upheld a jury's finding in a civil case that Donald Trump sexually abused and defamed columnist E Jean Carroll.

The court rejected claims by Trump's lawyers that a judge had made multiple decisions that spoiled the trial, including by permitting two other women who had accused Trump of sexually abusing them to testify.

When Trump said
When you are a star they let you do  It

He was speaking truthfully
He does tell a lot of fibs
But that is not one of them

For people who are not a star
Such as the original poster
They think that the way to seduce a woman
Is to buy her lots of flowers and chocolates
And be a real gentleman

Unfortunately that just makes you seem desperate
And it makes you seem low status
So the best you will ever achieve
Is to be put in the friend zone

It was unfortunate for Trump
That the jury was probably made up of  Many Beta males

  Had there been 12 Brazilian backpackers on the jury
They would have immediately understood
That Trump's explanation was totally rational

Trump should have asked to be judged by a jury of his peers
Not by a jury of weak sauce incel losers

aquascoot wrote on Dec 31^st, 2024 at 9:53am:

When Trump said When you are a star they let you do  It He was speaking truthfully He does tell a lot of fibs But that is not one of them For people who are not a star Such as the original poster They think that the way to seduce a woman Is to buy her lots of flowers and chocolates And be a real gentleman Unfortunately that just makes you seem desperate And it makes you seem low status So the best you will ever achieve Is to be put in the friend zone It was unfortunate for Trump That the jury was probably made up of  Many Beta males   Had there been 12 Brazilian backpackers on the jury They would have immediately understood That Trump's explanation was totally rational Trump should have asked to be judged by a jury of his peers Not by a jury of weak sauce incel losers

If woman let Trump sexually abuse them why has he been accused of sexual assault by so many woman....Hardly accepting his sexual abuse are they arsehole....You believe sexually abusing woman is acceptable as long as you are famous with money....You really arer a disgusting piece of crap like Trump you fat useless dickhead!!!

::) ::) ::)

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 31^st, 2024 at 10:06am:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 9:53am: When Trump said When you are a star they let you do  It He was speaking truthfully He does tell a lot of fibs But that is not one of them For people who are not a star Such as the original poster They think that the way to seduce a woman Is to buy her lots of flowers and chocolates And be a real gentleman Unfortunately that just makes you seem desperate And it makes you seem low status So the best you will ever achieve Is to be put in the friend zone It was unfortunate for Trump That the jury was probably made up of  Many Beta males   Had there been 12 Brazilian backpackers on the jury They would have immediately understood That Trump's explanation was totally rational Trump should have asked to be judged by a jury of his peers Not by a jury of weak sauce incel losers If women let Trump sexually abuse them why has he been accused of sexual assault by so many woman....Hardly accepting his sexual abuse are they arsehole....You believe sexually abusing woman is acceptable as long as you are famous with money....You really are a disgusting piece of crap like Trump you fat useless dickhead!!!

Hard to disagree with anything there.

Enabling rapists is certainly nothing to be proud of.

A federal appeals court upheld the jury’s verdict finding Donald Trump sexually abused writer E. Jean Carroll and denied his request for a new trial.

Trump challenged the $5 million civil verdict alleging the trial judge made numerous errors, including allowing testimony of two other women who claimed Trump sexually assaulted them.

The appeals court concluded the trial judge didn’t abuse his discretion in ruling on evidence. Even if he made any errors, they said, given the strength of Carroll’s case, they are not persuaded Trump’s rights were affected to warrant a new trial.

Good.

All these women came out of the woodwork only after he ran and won in 2016.
The Caroll incident supposedly happened in 1996, ie 20 YEARS earlier.
She never said anything about it publicly until she had a book to sell, and then only sued Trump for denying it, ie a civil case of supposed defamation.

The helpful NY Dem machine introduced a law to extend the statute of limitation so they - yes, the Dems, not Carroll - could add battery to her defamation case.

Ludicrous.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31^st, 2024 at 8:59am:

Appeals court upholds Trump sexual abuse finding in E Jean Carroll case A US appeals court has upheld a jury's finding in a civil case that Donald Trump sexually abused and defamed columnist E Jean Carroll. The court rejected claims by Trump's lawyers that a judge had made multiple decisions that spoiled the trial, including by permitting two other women who had accused Trump of sexually abusing them to testify.

Ee-gad, Greggery. If I was E Jean, I'd sue him again. She can sue him for sueing George Stephanopoulos too. ABC were pathetic for settling that.

The only reason they did is Disney didn't want the hassle. They left their journalist hanging high and dry for repeating the exact words of a judge.

The minions have been going to town on it ever since. They're claiming it as a legal win. If I was E Jean, I'd be sueing the pants off the Steve Bannons and Joe Rogans who keep pretending ABC's settlement proves the big fella didn't stick it in.

With the big fella in the White House and SCOTUS giving him blanket immunity, it's time to bring truth back  to the fake news the old fashioned way.

LAWFARE !!!

Frank wrote on Dec 31^st, 2024 at 10:44am:

All these women came out of the woodwork only after he ran and won in 2016. The Caroll incident supposedly happened in 1996, ie 20 YEARS earlier. She never said anything about it publicly until she had a book to sell, and then only sued Trump for denying it, ie a civil case of supposed defamation. The helpful NY Dem machine introduced a law to extend the statute of limitation so they - yes, the Dems, not Carroll - could add battery to her defamation case. Ludicrous.

No, dear boy, all those women came out of the woodwork when the big fella lied.

E Jean, Karen McDougal, Stormy Daniels. Stormy, a Republican all her life, was literally forced to tell her side of the story and defend herself. What did she get?

Detailed death threats, going into how many stab wounds they'd give her and which friends' cocks they'd use to plug her with.

So cute. Kind of makes calls to rip off little old ladies' hijabs sound tame, eh? So 2014. You've come a long way over the past decade, dear boy, but do you know?

Back then, you were such a zealot. Muselman this, Muselman that. Now you just do whatever your DL says.

Much easier, no?

Karnal wrote on Dec 31^st, 2024 at 12:05pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 10:44am: All these women came out of the woodwork only after he ran and won in 2016. The Caroll incident supposedly happened in 1996, ie 20 YEARS earlier. She never said anything about it publicly until she had a book to sell, and then only sued Trump for denying it, ie a civil case of supposed defamation. The helpful NY Dem machine introduced a law to extend the statute of limitation so they - yes, the Dems, not Carroll - could add battery to her defamation case. Ludicrous. No, dear boy, all those women came out of the woodwork when the big fella lied. E Jean, Karen McDougal, Stormy Daniels. Stormy, a Republican all her life, was literally forced to tell her side of the story and defend herself. What did she get? Detailed death threats, going into how many stab wounds they'd give her and which friends' cocks they'd use to plug her with. So cute. Kind of makes calls to rip off little old ladies' hijabs sound tame, eh? So 2014. You've come a long way over the past decade, dear boy, but do you know? Back then, you were such a zealot. Muselman this, Muselman that. Now you just do whatever your DL says. Much easier, no?

Nonsense.

Frank wrote on Dec 31^st, 2024 at 10:44am:

The Caroll incident supposedly happened in 1996, ie 20 YEARS earlier.

Not supposedly - it actually happened.

A US federal appeals court has upheld a $8-million verdict that E Jean Carroll won against Donald Trump when a jury found the US president-elect liable for sexually abusing and later defaming the former magazine columnist.

A unanimous three-judge panel of the US Court of Appeals 2nd Circuit in Manhattan rejected Trump's argument that the trial judge should not have let jurors hear evidence about the Republican's alleged past sexual misconduct, making the trial and verdict unfair.

Surely you're not going to tell us it's all a big conspiracy involving all the courts, all the jurors and all the Judges.

The pathological liar who brags about sexually abusing women is telling the truth and everyone else is lying?

Sure, Jan   ::)

aquascoot wrote on Dec 31^st, 2024 at 9:53am:

When Trump said When you are a star they let you do  It He was speaking truthfully He does tell a lot of fibs But that is not one of them For people who are not a star Such as the original poster They think that the way to seduce a woman Is to buy her lots of flowers and chocolates And be a real gentleman Unfortunately that just makes you seem desperate And it makes you seem low status So the best you will ever achieve Is to be put in the friend zone It was unfortunate for Trump That the jury was probably made up of  Many Beta males   Had there been 12 Brazilian backpackers on the jury They would have immediately understood That Trump's explanation was totally rational Trump should have asked to be judged by a jury of his peers Not by a jury of weak sauce incel losers

Too true, dear. When you're a star they let you do it.

Just kiss them, grab them by the pussy, roger them in the bottom after lights out.

True, they do look at you a little strangely - as the big fella would know all too well - but they never complain.

Oh, they froth and hiss and groan, but do you know?

Like E Jean, Stormy and all the others, I do feel the old boy digs it.

He's a bit of a playgirl, you see. A real swinger.

You?

Frank wrote on Dec 31^st, 2024 at 10:44am:

All these women came out of the woodwork only after he ran and won in 2016. The Caroll incident supposedly happened in 1996, ie 20 YEARS earlier. She never said anything about it publicly until she had a book to sell, and then only sued Trump for denying it, ie a civil case of supposed defamation. The helpful NY Dem machine introduced a law to extend the statute of limitation so they - yes, the Dems, not Carroll - could add battery to her defamation case. Ludicrous.

No frank, just truth.
I know you cant handle the truth frank so here's another truth for you.
trump fought for 3 yrs to not have dna evidence admitted in court. Now tell me frank why would somebody who in his words "I never met the women,I dont know her" not want dna admitted in evidence, now theres a question.
will you answer or just do a scoot,that is run away and not answer.
you cant handle the truth frank,you and horseboy are so pathetic  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

scope wrote on Dec 31^st, 2024 at 5:53pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 10:44am: All these women came out of the woodwork only after he ran and won in 2016. The Caroll incident supposedly happened in 1996, ie 20 YEARS earlier. She never said anything about it publicly until she had a book to sell, and then only sued Trump for denying it, ie a civil case of supposed defamation. The helpful NY Dem machine introduced a law to extend the statute of limitation so they - yes, the Dems, not Carroll - could add battery to her defamation case. Ludicrous. No frank, just truth. I know you cant handle the truth frank so here's another truth for you. trump fought for 3 yrs to not have dna evidence admitted in court. Now tell me frank why would somebody who in his words "I never met the women,I dont know her" not want dna admitted in evidence, now theres a question. will you answer or just do a scoot,that is run away and not answer. you cant handle the truth frank,you and horseboy are so pathetic  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

What DNA evidence? From 1996?

Franks says it's all one big conspiracy involving all the courts, all the jurors and all the Judges.

"A US federal appeals court has upheld a $8-million verdict that E Jean Carroll won against Donald Trump when a jury found the US president-elect liable for sexually abusing and later defaming the former magazine columnist.

"A unanimous three-judge panel of the US Court of Appeals 2nd Circuit in Manhattan rejected Trump's argument that the trial judge should not have let jurors hear evidence about the Republican's alleged past sexual misconduct, making the trial and verdict unfair."

In Frank's world, the pathological liar who brags about sexually abusing women is telling the truth and everyone else is lying?

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Frank wrote on Dec 31^st, 2024 at 5:56pm:

scope wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 5:53pm: Frank wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 10:44am: All these women came out of the woodwork only after he ran and won in 2016. The Caroll incident supposedly happened in 1996, ie 20 YEARS earlier. She never said anything about it publicly until she had a book to sell, and then only sued Trump for denying it, ie a civil case of supposed defamation. The helpful NY Dem machine introduced a law to extend the statute of limitation so they - yes, the Dems, not Carroll - could add battery to her defamation case. Ludicrous. No frank, just truth. I know you cant handle the truth frank so here's another truth for you. trump fought for 3 yrs to not have dna evidence admitted in court. Now tell me frank why would somebody who in his words "I never met the women,I dont know her" not want dna admitted in evidence, now theres a question. will you answer or just do a scoot,that is run away and not answer. you cant handle the truth frank,you and horseboy are so pathetic  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D What DNA evidence? From 1996?

Yes, dear.

"Carroll’s lawyers have sought Trump’s DNA for three years to compare it with stains found on the dress Carroll wore the day she says Trump raped her in a department store dressing room in late 1995 or early 1996. Analysis of DNA on the dress concluded it did contain traces of an unknown man’s DNA."

... ... ... ...

"Traces of DNA are often used in rape and sexual assault cases to identify an attacker, and Ms. Carroll’s lawyers have said in court papers that the dress in question has such evidence.

"Ms. Carroll first requested in early 2020 that Mr. Trump provide a sample of his DNA for comparison. Mr. Trump repeatedly refused."

Why not charge him with rape then?

Frank wrote on Dec 31^st, 2024 at 6:29pm:

Why not charge him with rape then?

As you've been told a hundred times before, the statute of limitations.



"Carroll’s lawyers have sought Trump’s DNA for three years to compare it with stains found on the dress Carroll wore the day she says Trump raped her in a department store dressing room in late 1995 or early 1996. Analysis of DNA on the dress concluded it did contain traces of an unknown man’s DNA."

... ... ... ...

"Traces of DNA are often used in rape and sexual assault cases to identify an attacker, and Ms. Carroll’s lawyers have said in court papers that the dress in question has such evidence.

"Ms. Carroll first requested in early 2020 that Mr. Trump provide a sample of his DNA for comparison. Mr. Trump repeatedly refused."

Frank wrote on Dec 31^st, 2024 at 12:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 12:05pm: Frank wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 10:44am: All these women came out of the woodwork only after he ran and won in 2016. The Caroll incident supposedly happened in 1996, ie 20 YEARS earlier. She never said anything about it publicly until she had a book to sell, and then only sued Trump for denying it, ie a civil case of supposed defamation. The helpful NY Dem machine introduced a law to extend the statute of limitation so they - yes, the Dems, not Carroll - could add battery to her defamation case. Ludicrous. No, dear boy, all those women came out of the woodwork when the big fella lied. E Jean, Karen McDougal, Stormy Daniels. Stormy, a Republican all her life, was literally forced to tell her side of the story and defend herself. What did she get? Detailed death threats, going into how many stab wounds they'd give her and which friends' cocks they'd use to plug her with. So cute. Kind of makes calls to rip off little old ladies' hijabs sound tame, eh? So 2014. You've come a long way over the past decade, dear boy, but do you know? Back then, you were such a zealot. Muselman this, Muselman that. Now you just do whatever your DL says. Much easier, no? Nonsense.

Then there was the audio tape (Access Hollywood tapes) with Trump proudly bragging about sexually assaulting women. How odd Trump brags about sexual assault and women confirm that Trump is telling the truth. Yes totally unbelievable just like 1+1=3

Dnarever wrote on Dec 31^st, 2024 at 8:15pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 12:07pm: Karnal wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 12:05pm: Frank wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 10:44am: All these women came out of the woodwork only after he ran and won in 2016. The Caroll incident supposedly happened in 1996, ie 20 YEARS earlier. She never said anything about it publicly until she had a book to sell, and then only sued Trump for denying it, ie a civil case of supposed defamation. The helpful NY Dem machine introduced a law to extend the statute of limitation so they - yes, the Dems, not Carroll - could add battery to her defamation case. Ludicrous. No, dear boy, all those women came out of the woodwork when the big fella lied. E Jean, Karen McDougal, Stormy Daniels. Stormy, a Republican all her life, was literally forced to tell her side of the story and defend herself. What did she get? Detailed death threats, going into how many stab wounds they'd give her and which friends' cocks they'd use to plug her with. So cute. Kind of makes calls to rip off little old ladies' hijabs sound tame, eh? So 2014. You've come a long way over the past decade, dear boy, but do you know? Back then, you were such a zealot. Muselman this, Muselman that. Now you just do whatever your DL says. Much easier, no? Nonsense. Then there was the audio tape (Access Hollywood tapes) with Trump proudly bragging about sexually assaulting women. How odd Trump brags about sexual assault and women confirm that Trump is telling the truth. Yes totally unbelievable just like 1+1=3

Not rape.


We have all grabbed pussies in our time - not the pussyphobic gays here but the rest, including even the women.

And had our wedding tackle grabbed by women. Not a court case - unless you run for office and they want to destroy you.

Frank wrote on Dec 31^st, 2024 at 6:29pm:

Why not charge him with rape then?

Ooh! Methinks the old boy protests a little too hard.

Honk if you're horny, dear chap. We'll have you properly inseminated.

Ever get the feeling you've been bred?

Great replacement, innit.

Frank wrote on Dec 31^st, 2024 at 9:31pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 8:15pm: Frank wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 12:07pm: Karnal wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 12:05pm: Frank wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 10:44am: All these women came out of the woodwork only after he ran and won in 2016. The Caroll incident supposedly happened in 1996, ie 20 YEARS earlier. She never said anything about it publicly until she had a book to sell, and then only sued Trump for denying it, ie a civil case of supposed defamation. The helpful NY Dem machine introduced a law to extend the statute of limitation so they - yes, the Dems, not Carroll - could add battery to her defamation case. Ludicrous. No, dear boy, all those women came out of the woodwork when the big fella lied. E Jean, Karen McDougal, Stormy Daniels. Stormy, a Republican all her life, was literally forced to tell her side of the story and defend herself. What did she get? Detailed death threats, going into how many stab wounds they'd give her and which friends' cocks they'd use to plug her with. So cute. Kind of makes calls to rip off little old ladies' hijabs sound tame, eh? So 2014. You've come a long way over the past decade, dear boy, but do you know? Back then, you were such a zealot. Muselman this, Muselman that. Now you just do whatever your DL says. Much easier, no? Nonsense. Then there was the audio tape (Access Hollywood tapes) with Trump proudly bragging about sexually assaulting women. How odd Trump brags about sexual assault and women confirm that Trump is telling the truth. Yes totally unbelievable just like 1+1=3 Not rape. We have all grabbed pussies in our time - not the pussyphobic gays here but the rest, including even the women. And had our wedding tackle grabbed by women. Not a court case - unless you run for office and they want to destroy you.

Here is frank openly admitting to sexual assault, just so he can defend his dear leader.

frank,you are a scumbag.

Frank wrote on Dec 31^st, 2024 at 9:31pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 8:15pm: Frank wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 12:07pm: Karnal wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 12:05pm: Frank wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 10:44am: All these women came out of the woodwork only after he ran and won in 2016. The Caroll incident supposedly happened in 1996, ie 20 YEARS earlier. She never said anything about it publicly until she had a book to sell, and then only sued Trump for denying it, ie a civil case of supposed defamation. The helpful NY Dem machine introduced a law to extend the statute of limitation so they - yes, the Dems, not Carroll - could add battery to her defamation case. Ludicrous. No, dear boy, all those women came out of the woodwork when the big fella lied. E Jean, Karen McDougal, Stormy Daniels. Stormy, a Republican all her life, was literally forced to tell her side of the story and defend herself. What did she get? Detailed death threats, going into how many stab wounds they'd give her and which friends' cocks they'd use to plug her with. So cute. Kind of makes calls to rip off little old ladies' hijabs sound tame, eh? So 2014. You've come a long way over the past decade, dear boy, but do you know? Back then, you were such a zealot. Muselman this, Muselman that. Now you just do whatever your DL says. Much easier, no? Nonsense. Then there was the audio tape (Access Hollywood tapes) with Trump proudly bragging about sexually assaulting women. How odd Trump brags about sexual assault and women confirm that Trump is telling the truth. Yes totally unbelievable just like 1+1=3 Not rape. We have all grabbed pussies in our time - not the pussyphobic gays here but the rest, including even the women. And had our wedding tackle grabbed by women. Not a court case - unless you run for office and they want to destroy you.

That explains why you condone sexual assault and defend rapists....You are too stupid to even understand what sexual assault is ya dickhead....You fat disgusting pig!!!

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Not ignorance, but ignorance of ignorance, is the death of knowledge.
Alfred North Whitehead (1861 - 1947)

Frank wrote on Dec 31^st, 2024 at 6:29pm:

Why not charge him with rape then?

Trump pays them off and threatens the woman he sexualy assaults....Watch out Fwank, you don't have enough money to rape anyone!!!

;D ;D ;D

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31^st, 2024 at 6:20pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 5:56pm: scope wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 5:53pm: Frank wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 10:44am: All these women came out of the woodwork only after he ran and won in 2016. The Caroll incident supposedly happened in 1996, ie 20 YEARS earlier. She never said anything about it publicly until she had a book to sell, and then only sued Trump for denying it, ie a civil case of supposed defamation. The helpful NY Dem machine introduced a law to extend the statute of limitation so they - yes, the Dems, not Carroll - could add battery to her defamation case. Ludicrous. No frank, just truth. I know you cant handle the truth frank so here's another truth for you. trump fought for 3 yrs to not have dna evidence admitted in court. Now tell me frank why would somebody who in his words "I never met the women,I dont know her" not want dna admitted in evidence, now theres a question. will you answer or just do a scoot,that is run away and not answer. you cant handle the truth frank,you and horseboy are so pathetic  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D What DNA evidence? From 1996? Yes, dear. "Carroll’s lawyers have sought Trump’s DNA for three years to compare it with stains found on the dress Carroll wore the day she says Trump raped her in a department store dressing room in late 1995 or early 1996. Analysis of DNA on the dress concluded it did contain traces of an unknown man’s DNA." ... ... ... ... "Traces of DNA are often used in rape and sexual assault cases to identify an attacker, and Ms. Carroll’s lawyers have said in court papers that the dress in question has such evidence. "Ms. Carroll first requested in early 2020 that Mr. Trump provide a sample of his DNA for comparison. Mr. Trump repeatedly refused."

So this woman has kept a cum stained dress since 1995/96?

Ridiculous.

BTW why are you still here?

And continually ranting against Trump?

He won twice - you lost twice.

Still reneging.

scope wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:29am:

Frank wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 9:31pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 8:15pm: Frank wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 12:07pm: Karnal wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 12:05pm: Frank wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 10:44am: All these women came out of the woodwork only after he ran and won in 2016. The Caroll incident supposedly happened in 1996, ie 20 YEARS earlier. She never said anything about it publicly until she had a book to sell, and then only sued Trump for denying it, ie a civil case of supposed defamation. The helpful NY Dem machine introduced a law to extend the statute of limitation so they - yes, the Dems, not Carroll - could add battery to her defamation case. Ludicrous. No, dear boy, all those women came out of the woodwork when the big fella lied. E Jean, Karen McDougal, Stormy Daniels. Stormy, a Republican all her life, was literally forced to tell her side of the story and defend herself. What did she get? Detailed death threats, going into how many stab wounds they'd give her and which friends' cocks they'd use to plug her with. So cute. Kind of makes calls to rip off little old ladies' hijabs sound tame, eh? So 2014. You've come a long way over the past decade, dear boy, but do you know? Back then, you were such a zealot. Muselman this, Muselman that. Now you just do whatever your DL says. Much easier, no? Nonsense. Then there was the audio tape (Access Hollywood tapes) with Trump proudly bragging about sexually assaulting women. How odd Trump brags about sexual assault and women confirm that Trump is telling the truth. Yes totally unbelievable just like 1+1=3 Not rape. We have all grabbed pussies in our time - not the pussyphobic gays here but the rest, including even the women. And had our wedding tackle grabbed by women. Not a court case - unless you run for office and they want to destroy you. Here is frank openly admitting to sexual assault, just so he can defend his dear leader. frank,you are a scumbag.

And you're deluded.

scope wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:29am:

Frank wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 9:31pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 8:15pm: Frank wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 12:07pm: Karnal wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 12:05pm: Frank wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 10:44am: All these women came out of the woodwork only after he ran and won in 2016. The Caroll incident supposedly happened in 1996, ie 20 YEARS earlier. She never said anything about it publicly until she had a book to sell, and then only sued Trump for denying it, ie a civil case of supposed defamation. The helpful NY Dem machine introduced a law to extend the statute of limitation so they - yes, the Dems, not Carroll - could add battery to her defamation case. Ludicrous. No, dear boy, all those women came out of the woodwork when the big fella lied. E Jean, Karen McDougal, Stormy Daniels. Stormy, a Republican all her life, was literally forced to tell her side of the story and defend herself. What did she get? Detailed death threats, going into how many stab wounds they'd give her and which friends' cocks they'd use to plug her with. So cute. Kind of makes calls to rip off little old ladies' hijabs sound tame, eh? So 2014. You've come a long way over the past decade, dear boy, but do you know? Back then, you were such a zealot. Muselman this, Muselman that. Now you just do whatever your DL says. Much easier, no? Nonsense. Then there was the audio tape (Access Hollywood tapes) with Trump proudly bragging about sexually assaulting women. How odd Trump brags about sexual assault and women confirm that Trump is telling the truth. Yes totally unbelievable just like 1+1=3 Not rape. We have all grabbed pussies in our time - not the pussyphobic gays here but the rest, including even the women. And had our wedding tackle grabbed by women. Not a court case - unless you run for office and they want to destroy you. Here is frank openly admitting to sexual assault, just so he can defend his dear leader. frank,you are a scumbag.

It seems that Frank thinks sexual assault is alright, as long as you don't call it rape.

Oh dear.

Gnads wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 8:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 6:20pm: Frank wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 5:56pm: scope wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 5:53pm: Frank wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 10:44am: All these women came out of the woodwork only after he ran and won in 2016. The Caroll incident supposedly happened in 1996, ie 20 YEARS earlier. She never said anything about it publicly until she had a book to sell, and then only sued Trump for denying it, ie a civil case of supposed defamation. The helpful NY Dem machine introduced a law to extend the statute of limitation so they - yes, the Dems, not Carroll - could add battery to her defamation case. Ludicrous. No frank, just truth. I know you cant handle the truth frank so here's another truth for you. trump fought for 3 yrs to not have dna evidence admitted in court. Now tell me frank why would somebody who in his words "I never met the women,I dont know her" not want dna admitted in evidence, now theres a question. will you answer or just do a scoot,that is run away and not answer. you cant handle the truth frank,you and horseboy are so pathetic  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D What DNA evidence? From 1996? Yes, dear. "Carroll’s lawyers have sought Trump’s DNA for three years to compare it with stains found on the dress Carroll wore the day she says Trump raped her in a department store dressing room in late 1995 or early 1996. Analysis of DNA on the dress concluded it did contain traces of an unknown man’s DNA." ... ... ... ... "Traces of DNA are often used in rape and sexual assault cases to identify an attacker, and Ms. Carroll’s lawyers have said in court papers that the dress in question has such evidence. "Ms. Carroll first requested in early 2020 that Mr. Trump provide a sample of his DNA for comparison. Mr. Trump repeatedly refused." So this woman has kept a cum stained dress since 1995/96? Ridiculous.

So why did Trump refuse to give a DNA sample?

The judge, Lewis A Kaplan, rejected the 11th-hour offer by Trump’s legal team to provide a DNA sample to rebut claims Carroll first made publicly in a 2019 book.


The judge also noted that the report did not find evidence of sperm cells and that reopening the dispute would raise a “complicated new subject into this case that both sides elected not to pursue over a period of years”.

He said a positive match of Trump’s DNA to that on the dress would prove only that there had been an encounter between Trump and Carroll on a day when she wore the dress, but would not prove or disprove that a rape occurred and might prove entirely inconclusive.

Granuiad

Frank wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 11:41am:

The judge, Lewis A Kaplan, rejected the 11th-hour offer by Trump’s legal team to provide a DNA sample to rebut claims Carroll first made publicly in a 2019 book. The judge also noted that the report did not find evidence of sperm cells and that reopening the dispute would raise a “complicated new subject into this case that both sides elected not to pursue over a period of years”. He said a positive match of Trump’s DNA to that on the dress would prove only that there had been an encounter between Trump and Carroll on a day when she wore the dress, but would not prove or disprove that a rape occurred and might prove entirely inconclusive. Granuiad

The sexual abuse was eventually proven without the DNA anyway.

So, all good   [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

A US federal appeals court has upheld a $8-million verdict that E Jean Carroll won against Donald Trump when a jury found the US president-elect liable for sexually abusing and later defaming the former magazine columnist.

A unanimous three-judge panel of the US Court of Appeals 2nd Circuit in Manhattan rejected Trump's argument that the trial judge should not have let jurors hear evidence about the Republican's alleged past sexual misconduct, making the trial and verdict unfair.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 11:45am:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 11:41am: The judge, Lewis A Kaplan, rejected the 11th-hour offer by Trump’s legal team to provide a DNA sample to rebut claims Carroll first made publicly in a 2019 book. The judge also noted that the report did not find evidence of sperm cells and that reopening the dispute would raise a “complicated new subject into this case that both sides elected not to pursue over a period of years”. He said a positive match of Trump’s DNA to that on the dress would prove only that there had been an encounter between Trump and Carroll on a day when she wore the dress, but would not prove or disprove that a rape occurred and might prove entirely inconclusive. Granuiad The sexual abuse was eventually proven without the DNA anyway. So, all good   [smiley=thumbsup.gif] A US federal appeals court has upheld a $8-million verdict that E Jean Carroll won against Donald Trump when a jury found the US president-elect liable for sexually abusing and later defaming the former magazine columnist. A unanimous three-judge panel of the US Court of Appeals 2nd Circuit in Manhattan rejected Trump's argument that the trial judge should not have let jurors hear evidence about the Republican's alleged past sexual misconduct, making the trial and verdict unfair.

Not proven.  Declared.

Not the same thing.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 10:39am:

Gnads wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 8:53am: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 6:20pm: Frank wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 5:56pm: scope wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 5:53pm: Frank wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 10:44am: All these women came out of the woodwork only after he ran and won in 2016. The Caroll incident supposedly happened in 1996, ie 20 YEARS earlier. She never said anything about it publicly until she had a book to sell, and then only sued Trump for denying it, ie a civil case of supposed defamation. The helpful NY Dem machine introduced a law to extend the statute of limitation so they - yes, the Dems, not Carroll - could add battery to her defamation case. Ludicrous. No frank, just truth. I know you cant handle the truth frank so here's another truth for you. trump fought for 3 yrs to not have dna evidence admitted in court. Now tell me frank why would somebody who in his words "I never met the women,I dont know her" not want dna admitted in evidence, now theres a question. will you answer or just do a scoot,that is run away and not answer. you cant handle the truth frank,you and horseboy are so pathetic  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D What DNA evidence? From 1996? Yes, dear. "Carroll’s lawyers have sought Trump’s DNA for three years to compare it with stains found on the dress Carroll wore the day she says Trump raped her in a department store dressing room in late 1995 or early 1996. Analysis of DNA on the dress concluded it did contain traces of an unknown man’s DNA." ... ... ... ... "Traces of DNA are often used in rape and sexual assault cases to identify an attacker, and Ms. Carroll’s lawyers have said in court papers that the dress in question has such evidence. "Ms. Carroll first requested in early 2020 that Mr. Trump provide a sample of his DNA for comparison. Mr. Trump repeatedly refused." So this woman has kept a cum stained dress since 1995/96? Ridiculous. So why did Trump refuse to give a DNA sample?

You answer my question first.

Statute of Limitations? ::) ;D

Frank wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 11:52am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 11:45am: Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 11:41am: The judge, Lewis A Kaplan, rejected the 11th-hour offer by Trump’s legal team to provide a DNA sample to rebut claims Carroll first made publicly in a 2019 book. The judge also noted that the report did not find evidence of sperm cells and that reopening the dispute would raise a “complicated new subject into this case that both sides elected not to pursue over a period of years”. He said a positive match of Trump’s DNA to that on the dress would prove only that there had been an encounter between Trump and Carroll on a day when she wore the dress, but would not prove or disprove that a rape occurred and might prove entirely inconclusive. Granuiad The sexual abuse was eventually proven without the DNA anyway. So, all good   [smiley=thumbsup.gif] A US federal appeals court has upheld a $8-million verdict that E Jean Carroll won against Donald Trump when a jury found the US president-elect liable for sexually abusing and later defaming the former magazine columnist. A unanimous three-judge panel of the US Court of Appeals 2nd Circuit in Manhattan rejected Trump's argument that the trial judge should not have let jurors hear evidence about the Republican's alleged past sexual misconduct, making the trial and verdict unfair. Not proven.  Declared. Not the same thing.

He raped her and he has to pay.

Semantics won't help him  ;)

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 11:59am:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 11:52am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 11:45am: Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 11:41am: The judge, Lewis A Kaplan, rejected the 11th-hour offer by Trump’s legal team to provide a DNA sample to rebut claims Carroll first made publicly in a 2019 book. The judge also noted that the report did not find evidence of sperm cells and that reopening the dispute would raise a “complicated new subject into this case that both sides elected not to pursue over a period of years”. He said a positive match of Trump’s DNA to that on the dress would prove only that there had been an encounter between Trump and Carroll on a day when she wore the dress, but would not prove or disprove that a rape occurred and might prove entirely inconclusive. Granuiad The sexual abuse was eventually proven without the DNA anyway. So, all good   [smiley=thumbsup.gif] A US federal appeals court has upheld a $8-million verdict that E Jean Carroll won against Donald Trump when a jury found the US president-elect liable for sexually abusing and later defaming the former magazine columnist. A unanimous three-judge panel of the US Court of Appeals 2nd Circuit in Manhattan rejected Trump's argument that the trial judge should not have let jurors hear evidence about the Republican's alleged past sexual misconduct, making the trial and verdict unfair. Not proven.  Declared. Not the same thing. He raped her and he has to pay. Semantics won't help him  ;)

That could cost you $5 mil, despicable.

Frank wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 12:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 11:59am: Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 11:52am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 11:45am: Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 11:41am: The judge, Lewis A Kaplan, rejected the 11th-hour offer by Trump’s legal team to provide a DNA sample to rebut claims Carroll first made publicly in a 2019 book. The judge also noted that the report did not find evidence of sperm cells and that reopening the dispute would raise a “complicated new subject into this case that both sides elected not to pursue over a period of years”. He said a positive match of Trump’s DNA to that on the dress would prove only that there had been an encounter between Trump and Carroll on a day when she wore the dress, but would not prove or disprove that a rape occurred and might prove entirely inconclusive. Granuiad The sexual abuse was eventually proven without the DNA anyway. So, all good   [smiley=thumbsup.gif] A US federal appeals court has upheld a $8-million verdict that E Jean Carroll won against Donald Trump when a jury found the US president-elect liable for sexually abusing and later defaming the former magazine columnist. A unanimous three-judge panel of the US Court of Appeals 2nd Circuit in Manhattan rejected Trump's argument that the trial judge should not have let jurors hear evidence about the Republican's alleged past sexual misconduct, making the trial and verdict unfair. Not proven.  Declared. Not the same thing. He raped her and he has to pay. Semantics won't help him  ;) That could cost you $5 mil, despicable.

Tell it to the judge.

Donald Trump raped E. Jean Carroll even though he was found liable only for 'sexual abuse,' judge rules

US District Judge Lewis Kaplan, who presided over the trial, wrote that the trial evidence demonstrated Trump "raped" Carroll in the plain sense of the word.

meh

e jean will have 70 million people hating on her for her grift
doesnt seem like a good deal for her
wins in court but she loses in life

donald loses in court but wins in life
seems like this extraordinary man just cant stop winning

aquascoot wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 3:27pm:

meh e jean will have 70 million people hating on her for her grift doesnt seem like a good deal for her wins in court but she loses in life donald loses in court but wins in life seems like this extraordinary man just cant stop winning

If winning in life means being the laughing stock of the world, being humiliated in court every other week, having a wife that detests you, and losing millions of dollars day after day then yeah ... he's crushing it.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 3:47pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 3:27pm: meh e jean will have 70 million people hating on her for her grift doesnt seem like a good deal for her wins in court but she loses in life donald loses in court but wins in life seems like this extraordinary man just cant stop winning If winning in life means being the laughing stock of the world, being humiliated in court every other week, having a wife that detests you, and losing millions of dollars day after day then yeah ... he's crushing it.

Ron D for 2028, Greggery.

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 4:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 3:47pm: aquascoot wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 3:27pm: meh e jean will have 70 million people hating on her for her grift doesnt seem like a good deal for her wins in court but she loses in life donald loses in court but wins in life seems like this extraordinary man just cant stop winning If winning in life means being the laughing stock of the world, being humiliated in court every other week, having a wife that detests you, and losing millions of dollars day after day then yeah ... he's crushing it. Ron D for 2028, Greggery.

Boots 'n' all.

Whatever happened to that JD fella?

Did he get shipped off overseas with Don Jr.'s ex-girlfriend?  :-/

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 4:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 3:47pm: aquascoot wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 3:27pm: meh e jean will have 70 million people hating on her for her grift doesnt seem like a good deal for her wins in court but she loses in life donald loses in court but wins in life seems like this extraordinary man just cant stop winning If winning in life means being the laughing stock of the world, being humiliated in court every other week, having a wife that detests you, and losing millions of dollars day after day then yeah ... he's crushing it. Ron D for 2028, Greggery.

Nope, in 2028, dead or alive, Trumpy will be the candidate.

aquascoot wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 3:27pm:

meh e jean will have 70 million people hating on her for her grift

I know, right? E Jean testified that she slept with a Derringer under her pillow.

The big fella had his lawyers push to get her charged for owning an unlicensed weapon.

He's our law and order president, no?

Not so much a man as a God.

aquascoot wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 3:27pm:

meh e jean will have 70 million people hating on her for her grift doesnt seem like a good deal for her wins in court but she loses in life donald loses in court but wins in life seems like this extraordinary man just cant stop winning

And when the TDS kids heard this, they were furious and gnashed their teeth at him.

Act 7:54

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 4:11pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 4:08pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 3:47pm: aquascoot wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 3:27pm: meh e jean will have 70 million people hating on her for her grift doesnt seem like a good deal for her wins in court but she loses in life donald loses in court but wins in life seems like this extraordinary man just cant stop winning If winning in life means being the laughing stock of the world, being humiliated in court every other week, having a wife that detests you, and losing millions of dollars day after day then yeah ... he's crushing it. Ron D for 2028, Greggery. Boots 'n' all. Whatever happened to that JD fella? Did he get shipped off overseas with Don Jr.'s ex-girlfriend?  :-/

JD's in the doghouse with Steve Bannon, Greggery. The white nationalists from the flyover states have been put back in their place. Elon's VP now.

The globalist deep state cabal has been returned to power. Elon and Vivek are promising to ramp up the H1B visa program and flood the market with cheap foreign labour.

Whoever knew the solution to inflation was there before our eyes all along? Now all the US has to do is fix its post-covid skilled labour glut by ramping up immigration. Easy peasy, no?

Better yet, with the real news media out, the big fella doesn't have to explain a thing, he can just go on Joe Rogan and do the Weave. If anybody complains, he can sue - or just cancel their broadcasting license.

Sure, the big fella will need to move a few staff around and reneg on a few core promises, but now the erection's done he can go back to putting the elites, neo-cons and deep staters back where they belong.

I'd say we'll get a few war hawks as well. John Bolton might be a bridge too far, but I'm sure we can find a few Fox-friendly picks to get the US military back on its war footing for a decent new endless war. Netanyahu can't wait.

With the Middle East hotting back up, the elites poised to cut Medicare and social security, the Pentagon out shopping for new goodies and the garbage from the shithole countries flooding back in, we'll have America back in business in no time, no?

JD can join Steve Bannon on his Chinese friend's yacht for all the big fella cares. DL's only aim is to get his pardons done and get back on the golf course.

You wait, on Day One, it'll all be over. The base will forget the last nine years of gripes in a flash. A decent new war with an evil new enemy will bring the country together, you'll see. Same as it ever was.

We will make America great again, no?

JD's not in the doghouse , you dumb dumb

JD has read 48 laws of power and knows that now is the time to let trump wallow in the glory

he is keeping a low profile and the boss will feel appreciative of him doing that

why dont the left understand ANYTHING about what makes people tick  ;D ;D

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 4:15pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 3:27pm: meh e jean will have 70 million people hating on her for her grift I know, right? E Jean testified that she slept with a Derringer under her pillow. The big fella had his lawyers push to get her charged for owning an unlicensed weapon. He's our law and order president, no? Not so much a man as a God.

well if she has acted illegally, we can only hope that she will feel the full weight of the law.
this would surely be your position if you had consistency  :-/ :-/

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 5:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 4:11pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 4:08pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 3:47pm: aquascoot wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 3:27pm: meh e jean will have 70 million people hating on her for her grift doesnt seem like a good deal for her wins in court but she loses in life donald loses in court but wins in life seems like this extraordinary man just cant stop winning If winning in life means being the laughing stock of the world, being humiliated in court every other week, having a wife that detests you, and losing millions of dollars day after day then yeah ... he's crushing it. Ron D for 2028, Greggery. Boots 'n' all. Whatever happened to that JD fella? Did he get shipped off overseas with Don Jr.'s ex-girlfriend?  :-/ JD's in the doghouse with Steve Bannon, Greggery.

Ain't that the truth.

The big fella got rid of Don Jr.'s girlfriend and now he's sidelined his buddy JD.

Frank wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 5:00pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 3:27pm: meh e jean will have 70 million people hating on her for her grift doesnt seem like a good deal for her wins in court but she loses in life donald loses in court but wins in life seems like this extraordinary man just cant stop winning And when the TDS kids heard this, they were furious and gnashed their teeth at him. Act 7:54

Attended church for Christmas did you, dear boy?

Most virtuous of you. Still, your vicar may have missed Acts 7.55:


Quote:

55 But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God.56 “Look,” he said, “I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.”

Your passage goes on:


Quote:

59 While they were stoning him, Stephen prayed, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” 60 Then he fell on his knees and cried out, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them.” When he had said this, he fell asleep.

The martyrdom of Stephen is about forgiveness through Christ. When we are tormented and persecuted, even unto death, we forgive, just as we seek forgiveness for those we have wronged ourselves. This is the message of the gospels themselves, is it not?

As you'd expect, it is a message the big fella has reflected upon, as a deeply committed Christian, like yourself. When asked whether he had ever sought forgiveness for his sins, the big fella was adamant:


Quote:

I am not sure I have. I just go on and try to do a better job from there. I don’t think so. I think if I do something wrong, I think, I just try and make it right. I don’t bring God into that picture, I don't.

The big fella loves his church and attends as much as he can, even when they are closed. Like you, he loves his God and his Bible and little church. He doesn't worry about all the religious stuff so much, which he believes takes care of itself if one gets the basics right, such as partaking in his little wine and cracker:


Quote:

When I drink my little wine — which is about the only wine I drink — and have my little cracker, I guess that is a form of asking for forgiveness, and I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed.

Yes, it's not so much about the forgiving, but the little wine and crackers, which may be a form of asking for forgiveness, liturgically speaking. A performative, symbolic act which makes us feel cleansed.

As we reflect upon the passing of Christmas and enter the new year of our Lord 2025, I do feel there's a message in there for all of us, no?

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It shows just how far American politics has fallen when a convicted rapist who essentially tried to overturn an election can get elected to the Presidency. I pity those in America who now have to live with four more years of this delusional whackjob.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 6:41pm:

It shows just how far American politics has fallen when a convicted rapist who essentially tried to overturn an election can get elected to the Presidency. I pity those in America who now have to live with four more years of this delusional whackjob.

Now now, Armchair, we all have our different views and ways of seeing the world. Is this not the beauty of the pluralistic, rich multicultural tapestry we all share?

We live in a democracy with rights and freedoms inherent and absolute. Universal suffrage, direct representation, a rule of law with due process and justice for all.

Superior culture, innit.

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 6:56pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 6:41pm: It shows just how far American politics has fallen when a convicted rapist who essentially tried to overturn an election can get elected to the Presidency. I pity those in America who now have to live with four more years of this delusional whackjob. Now now, Armchair, we all have our different views and ways of seeing the world. Is this not the beauty of the pluralistic, rich multicultural tapestry we all share? We live in a democracy with rights and freedoms inherent and absolute. Universal suffrage, direct representation, a rule of law with due process and justice for all. Superior culture, innit.

Of course we all see the world differently. However, surely most reasonable people can concede that a person who has been convicted of rape is not fit to serve as President of the United States and should never have been permitted to run for that office? It's ridiculous - a person who is not a natural born US citizen cannot run for the office of President, but a convicted felon can. If that's not a joke, I don't know what is.

aquascoot wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 5:11pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 4:15pm: aquascoot wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 3:27pm: meh e jean will have 70 million people hating on her for her grift I know, right? E Jean testified that she slept with a Derringer under her pillow. The big fella had his lawyers push to get her charged for owning an unlicensed weapon. He's our law and order president, no? Not so much a man as a God. well if she has acted illegally, we can only hope that she will feel the full weight of the law. this would surely be your position if you had consistency  :-/ :-/

Just so. E Jean should go to jail for saying she had an unlicensed firearm. Stormy Daniels should go to jail for flashing her tits in a strip joint. Karen McDougal should go to jail for breaching her NDA.

Fair's fair, no?

The big fella should be let off for basically being awesome.

How do we know?

You said.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:00pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 6:56pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 6:41pm: It shows just how far American politics has fallen when a convicted rapist who essentially tried to overturn an election can get elected to the Presidency. I pity those in America who now have to live with four more years of this delusional whackjob. Now now, Armchair, we all have our different views and ways of seeing the world. Is this not the beauty of the pluralistic, rich multicultural tapestry we all share? We live in a democracy with rights and freedoms inherent and absolute. Universal suffrage, direct representation, a rule of law with due process and justice for all. Superior culture, innit. Of course we all see the world differently. However, surely most reasonable people can concede that a person who has been convicted of rape is not fit to serve as President of the United States and should never have been permitted to run for that office? It's ridiculous - a person who is not a natural born US citizen cannot run for the office of President, but a convicted felon can. If that's not a joke, I don't know what is.

It's a civil case, Armchair. The felonies were just a minor paperwork error. He didn't mean to do it.

Obama was prez for eight years, and he was probably born in Kenya.

Where's the justice in that?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:00pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 6:56pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 6:41pm: It shows just how far American politics has fallen when a convicted rapist who essentially tried to overturn an election can get elected to the Presidency. I pity those in America who now have to live with four more years of this delusional whackjob. Now now, Armchair, we all have our different views and ways of seeing the world. Is this not the beauty of the pluralistic, rich multicultural tapestry we all share? We live in a democracy with rights and freedoms inherent and absolute. Universal suffrage, direct representation, a rule of law with due process and justice for all. Superior culture, innit. Of course we all see the world differently. However, surely most reasonable people can concede that a person who has been convicted of rape is not fit to serve as President of the United States and should never have been permitted to run for that office? It's ridiculous - a person who is not a natural born US citizen cannot run for the office of President, but a convicted felon can. If that's not a joke, I don't know what is.

It is indeed a joke that an adjudicated rapist and convicted felon can run for POTUS.

No sane person would let him step foot anywhere near their house.

And despite that, 70 million people voted for him.

The US is broken, and it's only gonna get worse over the next four years.

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:06pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:00pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 6:56pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 6:41pm: It shows just how far American politics has fallen when a convicted rapist who essentially tried to overturn an election can get elected to the Presidency. I pity those in America who now have to live with four more years of this delusional whackjob. Now now, Armchair, we all have our different views and ways of seeing the world. Is this not the beauty of the pluralistic, rich multicultural tapestry we all share? We live in a democracy with rights and freedoms inherent and absolute. Universal suffrage, direct representation, a rule of law with due process and justice for all. Superior culture, innit. Of course we all see the world differently. However, surely most reasonable people can concede that a person who has been convicted of rape is not fit to serve as President of the United States and should never have been permitted to run for that office? It's ridiculous - a person who is not a natural born US citizen cannot run for the office of President, but a convicted felon can. If that's not a joke, I don't know what is. It's a civil case, Armchair. The felonies were just a minor paperwork error. He didn't mean to do it. Obama was prez for eight years, and he was probably born in Kenya. Where's the justice in that?

The justice in Obama is that he was cool, whereas Trump is the precise opposite of that - times several million.

aquascoot wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 5:07pm:

JD's not in the doghouse , you dumb dumb JD has read 48 laws of power and knows that now is the time to let trump wallow in the glory he is keeping a low profile and the boss will feel appreciative of him doing that why dont the left understand ANYTHING about what makes people tick  ;D ;D

Elon could learn a thing or two from JD, eh?

JD - popularly elected VP; Elon - DL appointed tzar.

Do you think JD knew about the 48 laws of power when he was outing your DL as Orange Hitler?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:08pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:06pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:00pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 6:56pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 6:41pm: It shows just how far American politics has fallen when a convicted rapist who essentially tried to overturn an election can get elected to the Presidency. I pity those in America who now have to live with four more years of this delusional whackjob. Now now, Armchair, we all have our different views and ways of seeing the world. Is this not the beauty of the pluralistic, rich multicultural tapestry we all share? We live in a democracy with rights and freedoms inherent and absolute. Universal suffrage, direct representation, a rule of law with due process and justice for all. Superior culture, innit. Of course we all see the world differently. However, surely most reasonable people can concede that a person who has been convicted of rape is not fit to serve as President of the United States and should never have been permitted to run for that office? It's ridiculous - a person who is not a natural born US citizen cannot run for the office of President, but a convicted felon can. If that's not a joke, I don't know what is. It's a civil case, Armchair. The felonies were just a minor paperwork error. He didn't mean to do it. Obama was prez for eight years, and he was probably born in Kenya. Where's the justice in that? The justice in Obama is that he was cool, whereas Trump is the precise opposite of that - times several million.

Did you ever say that when Obama was in power, Armchair?

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:15pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:08pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:06pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:00pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 6:56pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 6:41pm: It shows just how far American politics has fallen when a convicted rapist who essentially tried to overturn an election can get elected to the Presidency. I pity those in America who now have to live with four more years of this delusional whackjob. Now now, Armchair, we all have our different views and ways of seeing the world. Is this not the beauty of the pluralistic, rich multicultural tapestry we all share? We live in a democracy with rights and freedoms inherent and absolute. Universal suffrage, direct representation, a rule of law with due process and justice for all. Superior culture, innit. Of course we all see the world differently. However, surely most reasonable people can concede that a person who has been convicted of rape is not fit to serve as President of the United States and should never have been permitted to run for that office? It's ridiculous - a person who is not a natural born US citizen cannot run for the office of President, but a convicted felon can. If that's not a joke, I don't know what is. It's a civil case, Armchair. The felonies were just a minor paperwork error. He didn't mean to do it. Obama was prez for eight years, and he was probably born in Kenya. Where's the justice in that? The justice in Obama is that he was cool, whereas Trump is the precise opposite of that - times several million. Did you ever say that when Obama was in power, Armchair?

Yep, and also that he was a gentleman and a decent human being with all whom he encountered. Can anyone honestly say that about Trump with a straight face? I think not.

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 6:35pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 5:00pm: aquascoot wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 3:27pm: meh e jean will have 70 million people hating on her for her grift doesnt seem like a good deal for her wins in court but she loses in life donald loses in court but wins in life seems like this extraordinary man just cant stop winning And when the TDS kids heard this, they were furious and gnashed their teeth at him. Act 7:54 Attended church for Christmas did you, dear boy? Most virtuous of you. Still, your vicar may have missed Acts 7.55: Quote: 55 But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God.56 “Look,” he said, “I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.” Your passage goes on: [quote]59 While they were stoning him, Stephen prayed, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” 60 Then he fell on his knees and cried out, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them.” When he had said this, he fell asleep.

The martyrdom of Stephen is about forgiveness through Christ. When we are tormented and persecuted, even unto death, we forgive, just as we seek forgiveness for those we have wronged ourselves. This is the message of the gospels themselves, is it not?

As you'd expect, it is a message the big fella has reflected upon, as a deeply committed Christian, like yourself. When asked whether he had ever sought forgiveness for his sins, the big fella was adamant:


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I am not sure I have. I just go on and try to do a better job from there. I don’t think so. I think if I do something wrong, I think, I just try and make it right. I don’t bring God into that picture, I don't.

The big fella loves his church and attends as much as he can, even when they are closed. Like you, he loves his God and his Bible and little church. He doesn't worry about all the religious stuff so much, which he believes takes care of itself if one gets the basics right, such as partaking in his little wine and cracker:


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When I drink my little wine — which is about the only wine I drink — and have my little cracker, I guess that is a form of asking for forgiveness, and I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed.

Yes, it's not so much about the forgiving, but the little wine and crackers, which may be a form of asking for forgiveness, liturgically speaking. A performative, symbolic act which makes us feel cleansed.

As we reflect upon the passing of Christmas and enter the new year of our Lord 2025, I do feel there's a message in there for all of us, no? [/quote]

:D :D
Furious gnashing of teeth is correct.

Frank wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:57pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 6:35pm: Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 5:00pm: aquascoot wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 3:27pm: meh e jean will have 70 million people hating on her for her grift doesnt seem like a good deal for her wins in court but she loses in life donald loses in court but wins in life seems like this extraordinary man just cant stop winning And when the TDS kids heard this, they were furious and gnashed their teeth at him. Act 7:54 Attended church for Christmas did you, dear boy? Most virtuous of you. Still, your vicar may have missed Acts 7.55: Quote: 55 But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God.56 “Look,” he said, “I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.” Your passage goes on: [quote]59 While they were stoning him, Stephen prayed, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” 60 Then he fell on his knees and cried out, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them.” When he had said this, he fell asleep. The martyrdom of Stephen is about forgiveness through Christ. When we are tormented and persecuted, even unto death, we forgive, just as we seek forgiveness for those we have wronged ourselves. This is the message of the gospels themselves, is it not? As you'd expect, it is a message the big fella has reflected upon, as a deeply committed Christian, like yourself. When asked whether he had ever sought forgiveness for his sins, the big fella was adamant: [quote]I am not sure I have. I just go on and try to do a better job from there. I don’t think so. I think if I do something wrong, I think, I just try and make it right. I don’t bring God into that picture, I don't.

The big fella loves his church and attends as much as he can, even when they are closed. Like you, he loves his God and his Bible and little church. He doesn't worry about all the religious stuff so much, which he believes takes care of itself if one gets the basics right, such as partaking in his little wine and cracker:


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When I drink my little wine — which is about the only wine I drink — and have my little cracker, I guess that is a form of asking for forgiveness, and I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed.

Yes, it's not so much about the forgiving, but the little wine and crackers, which may be a form of asking for forgiveness, liturgically speaking. A performative, symbolic act which makes us feel cleansed.

As we reflect upon the passing of Christmas and enter the new year of our Lord 2025, I do feel there's a message in there for all of us, no? [/quote]

:D :D
Furious gnashing of teeth is correct.

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Ah, the spirit of Christmas.

Spoken like a true Lutheran, ja?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:17pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:15pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:08pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:06pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:00pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 6:56pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 6:41pm: It shows just how far American politics has fallen when a convicted rapist who essentially tried to overturn an election can get elected to the Presidency. I pity those in America who now have to live with four more years of this delusional whackjob. Now now, Armchair, we all have our different views and ways of seeing the world. Is this not the beauty of the pluralistic, rich multicultural tapestry we all share? We live in a democracy with rights and freedoms inherent and absolute. Universal suffrage, direct representation, a rule of law with due process and justice for all. Superior culture, innit. Of course we all see the world differently. However, surely most reasonable people can concede that a person who has been convicted of rape is not fit to serve as President of the United States and should never have been permitted to run for that office? It's ridiculous - a person who is not a natural born US citizen cannot run for the office of President, but a convicted felon can. If that's not a joke, I don't know what is. It's a civil case, Armchair. The felonies were just a minor paperwork error. He didn't mean to do it. Obama was prez for eight years, and he was probably born in Kenya. Where's the justice in that? The justice in Obama is that he was cool, whereas Trump is the precise opposite of that - times several million. Did you ever say that when Obama was in power, Armchair? Yep, and also that he was a gentleman and a decent human being with all whom he encountered. Can anyone honestly say that about Trump with a straight face? I think not.

Yes, but what sort of fool would want a decent human being leading the free world?

Who'd create all the disruption, vengeance, sexual abuse and - ahem - deportations?

Come come, Armchair. The Real Americans want a complete and utter cunt.

You?

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 11:19pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:17pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:15pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:08pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:06pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:00pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 6:56pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 6:41pm: It shows just how far American politics has fallen when a convicted rapist who essentially tried to overturn an election can get elected to the Presidency. I pity those in America who now have to live with four more years of this delusional whackjob. Now now, Armchair, we all have our different views and ways of seeing the world. Is this not the beauty of the pluralistic, rich multicultural tapestry we all share? We live in a democracy with rights and freedoms inherent and absolute. Universal suffrage, direct representation, a rule of law with due process and justice for all. Superior culture, innit. Of course we all see the world differently. However, surely most reasonable people can concede that a person who has been convicted of rape is not fit to serve as President of the United States and should never have been permitted to run for that office? It's ridiculous - a person who is not a natural born US citizen cannot run for the office of President, but a convicted felon can. If that's not a joke, I don't know what is. It's a civil case, Armchair. The felonies were just a minor paperwork error. He didn't mean to do it. Obama was prez for eight years, and he was probably born in Kenya. Where's the justice in that? The justice in Obama is that he was cool, whereas Trump is the precise opposite of that - times several million. Did you ever say that when Obama was in power, Armchair? Yep, and also that he was a gentleman and a decent human being with all whom he encountered. Can anyone honestly say that about Trump with a straight face? I think not. Yes, but what sort of fool would want a decent human being leading the free world? Who'd create all the disruption, vengeance, sexual abuse and - ahem - deportations? Come come, Armchair. The Real Americans want a complete and utter cunt. You?

incorrect

trumps election is indeed rediculous but says nothing about trump

everyone knows what trump is

its says EVERYTHING about the leftie intellectual elite such as YOU smug karnal and smug gweggy

it says just how repulsive the population find YOU

they find YOU and your type more repulsive then a fat lazy wife cheating convicted felon

exactly why do they hate you so much?

forget trump and concentrate on reforming your own failed social and emotional intelligence :'( :'(

aquascoot wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 4:56am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 11:19pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:17pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:15pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:08pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:06pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:00pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 6:56pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 6:41pm: It shows just how far American politics has fallen when a convicted rapist who essentially tried to overturn an election can get elected to the Presidency. I pity those in America who now have to live with four more years of this delusional whackjob. Now now, Armchair, we all have our different views and ways of seeing the world. Is this not the beauty of the pluralistic, rich multicultural tapestry we all share? We live in a democracy with rights and freedoms inherent and absolute. Universal suffrage, direct representation, a rule of law with due process and justice for all. Superior culture, innit. Of course we all see the world differently. However, surely most reasonable people can concede that a person who has been convicted of rape is not fit to serve as President of the United States and should never have been permitted to run for that office? It's ridiculous - a person who is not a natural born US citizen cannot run for the office of President, but a convicted felon can. If that's not a joke, I don't know what is. It's a civil case, Armchair. The felonies were just a minor paperwork error. He didn't mean to do it. Obama was prez for eight years, and he was probably born in Kenya. Where's the justice in that? The justice in Obama is that he was cool, whereas Trump is the precise opposite of that - times several million. Did you ever say that when Obama was in power, Armchair? Yep, and also that he was a gentleman and a decent human being with all whom he encountered. Can anyone honestly say that about Trump with a straight face? I think not. Yes, but what sort of fool would want a decent human being leading the free world? Who'd create all the disruption, vengeance, sexual abuse and - ahem - deportations? Come come, Armchair. The Real Americans want a complete and utter cunt. You? incorrect trumps election is indeed rediculous but says nothing about trump everyone knows what trump is its says EVERYTHING about the leftie intellectual elite such as YOU smug karnal and smug gweggy it says just how repulsive the population find YOU they find YOU and your type more repulsive then a fat lazy wife cheating convicted felon exactly why do they hate you so much? forget trump and concentrate on reforming your own failed social and emotional intelligence :'( :'(

Trump was not running against Greg or Karnal ya smacking fat dickhead....I doubt the American people gave Greg or Karnal much thought when they voted for Trump....You really are very stupid fatso!!!

::) ::) ::)

aquascoot wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 4:56am:

they find YOU and your type more repulsive then a fat lazy wife cheating convicted felon exactly why do they hate you so much?

Some of them are nice, the rest are murdering job-stealing Latinos.

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 8:07am:

Trump was not running against Greg or Karnal ya smacking fat dickhead....I doubt the American people gave Greg or Karnal much thought when they voted for Trump....You really are very stupid fatso!!! ::) ::) ::)

Gweggy and Karnal are emblematic of what Trump ran against and ultimately defeated, you slow, uncomprehending red faced old fool.

Emblematic - look it up, ya daft spittle-freckled bellend.

Frank wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 9:11am:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 8:07am: Trump was not running against Greg or Karnal ya smacking fat dickhead....I doubt the American people gave Greg or Karnal much thought when they voted for Trump....You really are very stupid fatso!!! ::) ::) ::) Gweggy and Karnal are emblematic of what Trump ran against and ultimately defeated, you slow, uncomprehending red faced old fool. Emblematic - look it up, ya daft spittle-freckled bellend.

What a load of bullshit....Trump lost the popular vote twice and lost an election against a silly old man....It says just how repulsive the population find YOU and Aqua with your conflated sence of entitlement....Remain stupid ya dickhead!!!

:) :) :)

Al Capone was named "Public Enemy Number One" by the Chicago Crime Commission in 1930. He ran on the Mafia ticket for the Big White House and was on the run for president but was jailed and failed the Oath, even with 400 machine-guns in support.

Frank wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 9:11am:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 8:07am: Trump was not running against Greg or Karnal ya smacking fat dickhead....I doubt the American people gave Greg or Karnal much thought when they voted for Trump....You really are very stupid fatso!!! ::) ::) ::) Gweggy and Karnal are emblematic of what Trump ran against and ultimately defeated, ...

People opposed to criminals and rapists?

aquascoot wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 4:56am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 11:19pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:17pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:15pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:08pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:06pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:00pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 6:56pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 6:41pm: It shows just how far American politics has fallen when a convicted rapist who essentially tried to overturn an election can get elected to the Presidency. I pity those in America who now have to live with four more years of this delusional whackjob. Now now, Armchair, we all have our different views and ways of seeing the world. Is this not the beauty of the pluralistic, rich multicultural tapestry we all share? We live in a democracy with rights and freedoms inherent and absolute. Universal suffrage, direct representation, a rule of law with due process and justice for all. Superior culture, innit. Of course we all see the world differently. However, surely most reasonable people can concede that a person who has been convicted of rape is not fit to serve as President of the United States and should never have been permitted to run for that office? It's ridiculous - a person who is not a natural born US citizen cannot run for the office of President, but a convicted felon can. If that's not a joke, I don't know what is. It's a civil case, Armchair. The felonies were just a minor paperwork error. He didn't mean to do it. Obama was prez for eight years, and he was probably born in Kenya. Where's the justice in that? The justice in Obama is that he was cool, whereas Trump is the precise opposite of that - times several million. Did you ever say that when Obama was in power, Armchair? Yep, and also that he was a gentleman and a decent human being with all whom he encountered. Can anyone honestly say that about Trump with a straight face? I think not. Yes, but what sort of fool would want a decent human being leading the free world? Who'd create all the disruption, vengeance, sexual abuse and - ahem - deportations? Come come, Armchair. The Real Americans want a complete and utter cunt. You? incorrect trumps election is indeed rediculous but says nothing about trump everyone knows what trump is its says EVERYTHING about the leftie intellectual elite such as YOU smug karnal and smug gweggy it says just how repulsive the population find YOU they find YOU and your type more repulsive then a fat lazy wife cheating convicted felon exactly why do they hate you so much? forget trump and concentrate on reforming your own failed social and emotional intelligence :'( :'(

Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day?

No. No they did not.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 10:12am:

Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day? No. No they did not.

Frank wrote on Dec 30^th, 2024 at 1:57pm:

With a voter turnout around 66% in 2020, the majority of voters did not want Biden  who got a bit over 51% off the 66% = around a third of the voters. O'bama in 2008, ditto. 61% turnout, he got 53% of that a bit under a third. Even less in 2012, 59% turnout with 51% of that for Hussein Obama. Worse than Dubya in 2004 or Trump in 2024. In 2016 Trump got 46% of a 60% turnout and still won, to Hillary's apoplectic chagrin. In 2024 he got half of a 64% turnout.  Better than slick Willy in 1996 or 1992. Better than Obama in 2012 and about the same as Biden in 2020. Importantly, better than Trump himself in 2016.

its hilarious frank that gweg karnal and phil still cant see that people only voted for trump because the alternative  (the people just like gweg karnal and trump) are absolutley despised by the majority of people who voted.

trump merely cashed in on the repulsion for leftie intellectuals.

if there was no gweggy karnal phil bwian and dna , trump would be flat out getting elected as head of the local schools tuckshop.

but he sensed the mood of the electorate and then defined himself as "i am nothing like gweggy karnal brian phil and dna"

and the people said

"yippee, we freaking hate those dickheads and everything about them. lets get out the vote"


and they STILL cant see it

cognitive dissonance at a meta level  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Frank wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 10:16am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 10:12am: Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day? No. No they did not. Frank wrote on Dec 30th, 2024 at 1:57pm: With a voter turnout around 66% in 2020, the majority of voters did not want Biden  who got a bit over 51% off the 66% = around a third of the voters. O'bama in 2008, ditto. 61% turnout, he got 53% of that a bit under a third. Even less in 2012, 59% turnout with 51% of that for Hussein Obama. Worse than Dubya in 2004 or Trump in 2024. In 2016 Trump got 46% of a 60% turnout and still won, to Hillary's apoplectic chagrin. In 2024 he got half of a 64% turnout.  Better than slick Willy in 1996 or 1992. Better than Obama in 2012 and about the same as Biden in 2020. Importantly, better than Trump himself in 2016.

Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day?

No. No they did not.

aquascoot wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 11:56am:

cognitive dissonance at a meta level  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

'Republican President-elect Donald Trump has said his election victory handed him an “unprecedented and powerful” mandate to govern.' BBC news.
His campaign man called it a 'landslide'.
49.9% popular vote.
That's a landslide moving uphill.  Yes land does slide upwards, ain't it great?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 12:08pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 10:16am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 10:12am: Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day? No. No they did not. Frank wrote on Dec 30th, 2024 at 1:57pm: With a voter turnout around 66% in 2020, the majority of voters did not want Biden  who got a bit over 51% off the 66% = around a third of the voters. O'bama in 2008, ditto. 61% turnout, he got 53% of that a bit under a third. Even less in 2012, 59% turnout with 51% of that for Hussein Obama. Worse than Dubya in 2004 or Trump in 2024. In 2016 Trump got 46% of a 60% turnout and still won, to Hillary's apoplectic chagrin. In 2024 he got half of a 64% turnout.  Better than slick Willy in 1996 or 1992. Better than Obama in 2012 and about the same as Biden in 2020. Importantly, better than Trump himself in 2016. Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day? No. No they did not.

You coulda said the same about Harris, Biden, Hillary, Hussein O'bama - but you didn't, spineless creep.
Also about Dubya, Slick Willy, Carter, Kennedy and al the rest, in the US and everywhere with non-compulsory voting.

But you are grimacing and gesticulationg only now, despicable creep.  Why? Please explain your creepy spinelessness. Call a friend, if necessary.

Frank wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 12:51pm:

You coulda said the same about Biden, O'bama -

Biden 51%, Obama 51,53%, GH Bush 53%, Reagan 59%.
Were those a vote against aquascoot and Frank?

'A landslide is defined as the movement of a mass of rock, debris, or earth down a slope. Landslides are a type of "mass wasting," which denotes any down-slope movement of soil and rock under the direct influence of gravity'.
example: 'Don Trump was a mass of debris and went downhill fast in a landslide'.

chimera wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 1:10pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 12:51pm: You coulda said the same about Biden, O'bama - Biden 51%, Obama 51,53%, GH Bush 53%, Reagan 59%. Were those a vote against aquascoot and Frank?

meh  trump won

if a horse wins the melbourne cup by a nose or 10 lenghts, it makes zero difference
their name still goes in the record books  ;)

sorry, punter. If a horse stops at 49.9% or 99%, of the distance to win, it gets no prize. Even it gets along by a landslide. Even with Donald 'Grab 'em' Trump as jockey.

chimera wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 1:26pm:

sorry, punter. If a horse stops at 49.9% or 99%, of the distance to win, it gets no prize. Even it gets along by a landslide. Even with Donald 'Grab 'em' Trump as jockey.

meh

trump as a private citizen comes down a set of escalators and says he is going to run for president and then wins the house, senate, supreme court

and wankers want to say he isnt a winner
:D :D :D

show me where THAT was ever done before ::) ::)

aquascoot wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 4:56am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 11:19pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:17pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:15pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:08pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:06pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:00pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 6:56pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 6:41pm: It shows just how far American politics has fallen when a convicted rapist who essentially tried to overturn an election can get elected to the Presidency. I pity those in America who now have to live with four more years of this delusional whackjob. Now now, Armchair, we all have our different views and ways of seeing the world. Is this not the beauty of the pluralistic, rich multicultural tapestry we all share? We live in a democracy with rights and freedoms inherent and absolute. Universal suffrage, direct representation, a rule of law with due process and justice for all. Superior culture, innit. Of course we all see the world differently. However, surely most reasonable people can concede that a person who has been convicted of rape is not fit to serve as President of the United States and should never have been permitted to run for that office? It's ridiculous - a person who is not a natural born US citizen cannot run for the office of President, but a convicted felon can. If that's not a joke, I don't know what is. It's a civil case, Armchair. The felonies were just a minor paperwork error. He didn't mean to do it. Obama was prez for eight years, and he was probably born in Kenya. Where's the justice in that? The justice in Obama is that he was cool, whereas Trump is the precise opposite of that - times several million. Did you ever say that when Obama was in power, Armchair? Yep, and also that he was a gentleman and a decent human being with all whom he encountered. Can anyone honestly say that about Trump with a straight face? I think not. Yes, but what sort of fool would want a decent human being leading the free world? Who'd create all the disruption, vengeance, sexual abuse and - ahem - deportations? Come come, Armchair. The Real Americans want a complete and utter cunt. You? incorrect trumps election is indeed rediculous but says nothing about trump everyone knows what trump is its says EVERYTHING about the leftie intellectual elite such as YOU smug karnal and smug gweggy it says just how repulsive the population find YOU they find YOU and your type more repulsive then a fat lazy wife cheating convicted felon exactly why do they hate you so much? forget trump and concentrate on reforming your own failed social and emotional intelligence :'( :'(

Happy new year, dear, but far be it from my jolly self to identify as a leftie intellectual elite.

I, after all, am a humble libertarian of the Sydney Push persuasion. A little old fashioned, but that's just moi.

Repulsive and despicable? Of course! But I and my type am far from the reckoning of the American voters you profess to know so well.

My sympathies are with the Aussies, who've already been fucked by your DL's trade wars before they've even begun. Our dollar's down a good five percent, and lowering. Our only hope is that Chi-na finds more developing countries to send our processed iron ore to. Xi's already recommitting to his friendship with Vlad, but alas.

Vlad's not building anything, he 's just tearing things down.

A bit like your DL, no? Everything he touches melts into air. All that is solid, no?

Democracy, the rule of law, various people's pussies. 28 miles of new steel slats, rusting away on the southern border. He failed so hard on his Wall, Sleepy Joe got all the arrivals when the Supreme Court made the government overturn title 42. He failed so hard on his spending, he added 8 tril to the deficit. He failed so hard on so much, you can't even find one legislative or policy achievement during his entire first term in office.

This is why you abandoned him so. Too bloated and obese, you said. Yesterday's man. Thoroughly deplorable. Do you recall?

You may have forgotten, but that's okay. We can find a good dozen things Sleepy Joe's achieved, and you agree.

That's why you put your support behind the "noble Ron D", who proved even more unpopular with the American voters.

After all, they found your type more repulsive then a fat lazy wife cheating convicted felon, no?

SO UNFAIR !!!

Karnal wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 1:59pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:56am: Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 11:19pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:17pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:15pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:08pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:06pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:00pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 6:56pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 6:41pm: It shows just how far American politics has fallen when a convicted rapist who essentially tried to overturn an election can get elected to the Presidency. I pity those in America who now have to live with four more years of this delusional whackjob. Now now, Armchair, we all have our different views and ways of seeing the world. Is this not the beauty of the pluralistic, rich multicultural tapestry we all share? We live in a democracy with rights and freedoms inherent and absolute. Universal suffrage, direct representation, a rule of law with due process and justice for all. Superior culture, innit. Of course we all see the world differently. However, surely most reasonable people can concede that a person who has been convicted of rape is not fit to serve as President of the United States and should never have been permitted to run for that office? It's ridiculous - a person who is not a natural born US citizen cannot run for the office of President, but a convicted felon can. If that's not a joke, I don't know what is. It's a civil case, Armchair. The felonies were just a minor paperwork error. He didn't mean to do it. Obama was prez for eight years, and he was probably born in Kenya. Where's the justice in that? The justice in Obama is that he was cool, whereas Trump is the precise opposite of that - times several million. Did you ever say that when Obama was in power, Armchair? Yep, and also that he was a gentleman and a decent human being with all whom he encountered. Can anyone honestly say that about Trump with a straight face? I think not. Yes, but what sort of fool would want a decent human being leading the free world? Who'd create all the disruption, vengeance, sexual abuse and - ahem - deportations? Come come, Armchair. The Real Americans want a complete and utter cunt. You? incorrect trumps election is indeed rediculous but says nothing about trump everyone knows what trump is its says EVERYTHING about the leftie intellectual elite such as YOU smug karnal and smug gweggy it says just how repulsive the population find YOU they find YOU and your type more repulsive then a fat lazy wife cheating convicted felon exactly why do they hate you so much? forget trump and concentrate on reforming your own failed social and emotional intelligence :'( :'( Happy new year, dear, but far be it from my jolly self to identify as a leftie intellectual elite. I, after all, am a humble libertarian of the Sydney Push persuasion. A little old fashioned, but that's just moi. Repulsive and despicable? Of course! But I and my type am far from the reckoning of the American voters you profess to know so well. My sympathies are with the Aussies, who've already been fucked by your DL's trade wars before they've even begun. Our dollar's down a good five percent, and lowering. Our only hope is that Chi-na finds more developing countries to send our processed iron ore to. Xi's already recommitting to his friendship with Vlad, but alas. Vlad's not building anything, he 's just tearing things down. A bit like your DL, no? Everything he touches melts into air. All that is solid, no? Democracy, the rule of law, various people's pussies. 28 miles of new steel slats, rusting away on the southern border. He failed so hard on his Wall, Sleepy Joe got all the arrivals when the Supreme Court made the government overturn title 42. He failed so hard on his spending, he added 8 tril to the deficit. He failed so hard on so much, you can't even find one legislative or policy achievement during his entire first term in office. This is why you abandoned him so. Too bloated and obese, you said. Yesterday's man. Thoroughly deplorable. Do you recall? You may have forgotten, but that's okay. We can find a good dozen things Sleepy Joe's achieved, and you agree. That's why you put your support behind the "noble Ron D", who proved even more unpopular with the American voters. After all, they found your type more repulsive then a fat lazy wife cheating convicted felon, no? SO UNFAIR !!!

;D
Furious gnashing of dentures.


Today's word (again):  overwrought.

trumpy may usher in a golden age because the system was broken and he has put "disruptors" in key areas.

vivak, elon, tulsi , RFK are entrepreneurial and are all arse kickers

america is going to see some change and chaos and change and chaos ALWAYS provide opportunities.

look at the chaos of pearl harbour and WW2

quite a "disruptive" event

resulted in the innovators being given the green light and the civil service having their arse kicked

australia probably needs a similar mindset

a "war cabinet" mentality

time to unleash the entrepreneurs
and the chodes can be weaned off the government titty
people living their whole lives suckling on albos titties?
its disgusting

aquascoot wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 1:41pm:

president and then wins the house, senate, show me where THAT was ever done before

' But unified government at the beginning of a president’s first term has actually been the norm, especially for Democratic presidents, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of data going back to the 56th Congress (1899-1901). In fact, it’s been the case for 16 of 21 presidents dating to Theodore Roosevelt. The five exceptions were all Republicans: George W. and George H.W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, Gerald Ford and Richard Nixon.'

aquascoot is a 49% winner.

Frank wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 12:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 12:08pm: Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 10:16am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 10:12am: Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day? No. No they did not. Frank wrote on Dec 30th, 2024 at 1:57pm: With a voter turnout around 66% in 2020, the majority of voters did not want Biden  who got a bit over 51% off the 66% = around a third of the voters. O'bama in 2008, ditto. 61% turnout, he got 53% of that a bit under a third. Even less in 2012, 59% turnout with 51% of that for Hussein Obama. Worse than Dubya in 2004 or Trump in 2024. In 2016 Trump got 46% of a 60% turnout and still won, to Hillary's apoplectic chagrin. In 2024 he got half of a 64% turnout.  Better than slick Willy in 1996 or 1992. Better than Obama in 2012 and about the same as Biden in 2020. Importantly, better than Trump himself in 2016. Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day? No. No they did not. You coulda said the same about Harris, Biden, Hillary, Hussein O'bama - ...

Biden - 51.3%

Obama - 52.9%

Obama 51.1%

All more than 50%.

Year nine maths, innit?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 3:36pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 12:51pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 12:08pm: Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 10:16am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 10:12am: Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day? No. No they did not. Frank wrote on Dec 30th, 2024 at 1:57pm: With a voter turnout around 66% in 2020, the majority of voters did not want Biden  who got a bit over 51% off the 66% = around a third of the voters. O'bama in 2008, ditto. 61% turnout, he got 53% of that a bit under a third. Even less in 2012, 59% turnout with 51% of that for Hussein Obama. Worse than Dubya in 2004 or Trump in 2024. In 2016 Trump got 46% of a 60% turnout and still won, to Hillary's apoplectic chagrin. In 2024 he got half of a 64% turnout.  Better than slick Willy in 1996 or 1992. Better than Obama in 2012 and about the same as Biden in 2020. Importantly, better than Trump himself in 2016. Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day? No. No they did not. You coulda said the same about Harris, Biden, Hillary, Hussein O'bama - ... Biden - 51.3% Obama - 52.9% Obama 51.1% All more than 50%. Year nine maths, innit?

Of what voter turn-out,  you spineless, creepy mong?

Max 66%, mostly mid-50s.

Frank wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 3:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 3:36pm: Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 12:51pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 12:08pm: Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 10:16am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 10:12am: Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day? No. No they did not. Frank wrote on Dec 30th, 2024 at 1:57pm: With a voter turnout around 66% in 2020, the majority of voters did not want Biden  who got a bit over 51% off the 66% = around a third of the voters. O'bama in 2008, ditto. 61% turnout, he got 53% of that a bit under a third. Even less in 2012, 59% turnout with 51% of that for Hussein Obama. Worse than Dubya in 2004 or Trump in 2024. In 2016 Trump got 46% of a 60% turnout and still won, to Hillary's apoplectic chagrin. In 2024 he got half of a 64% turnout.  Better than slick Willy in 1996 or 1992. Better than Obama in 2012 and about the same as Biden in 2020. Importantly, better than Trump himself in 2016. Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day? No. No they did not. You coulda said the same about Harris, Biden, Hillary, Hussein O'bama - ... Biden - 51.3% Obama - 52.9% Obama 51.1% All more than 50%. Year nine maths, innit? Of what voter turn-out,  you spineless, creepy mong? Max 66%, mostly mid-50s.

I'll give you this: you're consistent.

Every time you lose an argument, you change the subject.

Frank wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 3:39pm:

Of what voter turn-out,  you spineless, creepy mong? Max 66%, mostly mid-50s.

erm... of the voters who were 49% Trump.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 3:40pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 3:39pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 3:36pm: Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 12:51pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 12:08pm: Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 10:16am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 10:12am: Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day? No. No they did not. Frank wrote on Dec 30th, 2024 at 1:57pm: With a voter turnout around 66% in 2020, the majority of voters did not want Biden  who got a bit over 51% off the 66% = around a third of the voters. O'bama in 2008, ditto. 61% turnout, he got 53% of that a bit under a third. Even less in 2012, 59% turnout with 51% of that for Hussein Obama. Worse than Dubya in 2004 or Trump in 2024. In 2016 Trump got 46% of a 60% turnout and still won, to Hillary's apoplectic chagrin. In 2024 he got half of a 64% turnout.  Better than slick Willy in 1996 or 1992. Better than Obama in 2012 and about the same as Biden in 2020. Importantly, better than Trump himself in 2016. Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day? No. No they did not. You coulda said the same about Harris, Biden, Hillary, Hussein O'bama - ... Biden - 51.3% Obama - 52.9% Obama 51.1% All more than 50%. Year nine maths, innit? Of what voter turn-out,  you spineless, creepy mong? Max 66%, mostly mid-50s. I'll give you this: you're consistent. Every time you lose an argument, you change the subject.

Nonsense, spineless creep.

More people voted for Trump than for ANYONE else.

Frank wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 4:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 3:40pm: Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 3:39pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 3:36pm: Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 12:51pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 12:08pm: Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 10:16am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 10:12am: Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day? No. No they did not. Frank wrote on Dec 30th, 2024 at 1:57pm: With a voter turnout around 66% in 2020, the majority of voters did not want Biden  who got a bit over 51% off the 66% = around a third of the voters. O'bama in 2008, ditto. 61% turnout, he got 53% of that a bit under a third. Even less in 2012, 59% turnout with 51% of that for Hussein Obama. Worse than Dubya in 2004 or Trump in 2024. In 2016 Trump got 46% of a 60% turnout and still won, to Hillary's apoplectic chagrin. In 2024 he got half of a 64% turnout.  Better than slick Willy in 1996 or 1992. Better than Obama in 2012 and about the same as Biden in 2020. Importantly, better than Trump himself in 2016. Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day? No. No they did not. You coulda said the same about Harris, Biden, Hillary, Hussein O'bama - ... Biden - 51.3% Obama - 52.9% Obama 51.1% All more than 50%. Year nine maths, innit? Of what voter turn-out,  you spineless, creepy mong? Max 66%, mostly mid-50s. I'll give you this: you're consistent. Every time you lose an argument, you change the subject. Nonsense, spineless creep. More people voted for Trump than for ANYONE else.

You're doing it again.

Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day?

No. No they did not.

Frank wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 4:07pm:

More people voted for Trump than for ANYONE else.

1.5%
1.5%

whew, he squeaked in..just

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 4:09pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:07pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 3:40pm: Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 3:39pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 3:36pm: Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 12:51pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 12:08pm: Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 10:16am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 10:12am: Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day? No. No they did not. Frank wrote on Dec 30th, 2024 at 1:57pm: With a voter turnout around 66% in 2020, the majority of voters did not want Biden  who got a bit over 51% off the 66% = around a third of the voters. O'bama in 2008, ditto. 61% turnout, he got 53% of that a bit under a third. Even less in 2012, 59% turnout with 51% of that for Hussein Obama. Worse than Dubya in 2004 or Trump in 2024. In 2016 Trump got 46% of a 60% turnout and still won, to Hillary's apoplectic chagrin. In 2024 he got half of a 64% turnout.  Better than slick Willy in 1996 or 1992. Better than Obama in 2012 and about the same as Biden in 2020. Importantly, better than Trump himself in 2016. Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day? No. No they did not. You coulda said the same about Harris, Biden, Hillary, Hussein O'bama - ... Biden - 51.3% Obama - 52.9% Obama 51.1% All more than 50%. Year nine maths, innit? Of what voter turn-out,  you spineless, creepy mong? Max 66%, mostly mid-50s. I'll give you this: you're consistent. Every time you lose an argument, you change the subject. Nonsense, spineless creep. More people voted for Trump than for ANYONE else. You're doing it again. Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day? No. No they did not.

So? You was robbed??  :D :D

Yes, Trump won the popular vote and the electoral college. Yes, Republicans won the Senate and the House. But, contrary to both Republican talking points and breathless headlines and hot takes from leading media outlets (“resounding”, “rout”, “runaway win”), there was really nothing at all historic or huge about the margin of victory.

There was no “landslide”. There was no “blowout”. There was no “sweeping” mandate given to Trump by the electorate. The numbers don’t lie.

First, consider the popular vote. Yes, Trump became the first Republican for two decades to win the popular vote. However, per results from CNN, the Cook Political Report, and the New York Times, he did not win a majority of the vote. Barack Obama did in both 2008 and 2012. Joe Biden did in 2020. But Donald Trump failed to do so in 2024.

And the former president’s margin of victory over Harris is a miniscule 1.6 percentage points, “smaller than that of every winning president since 1888 other than two: John F Kennedy in 1960 and Richard M Nixon in 1968”, as an analysis in the New York Times noted last month. In fact, in the 55 presidential elections in which the popular vote winner became president, 49 of them were won with a margin bigger than Trump’s in 2024.

aquascoot wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 1:41pm:

chimera wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 1:26pm: sorry, punter. If a horse stops at 49.9% or 99%, of the distance to win, it gets no prize. Even it gets along by a landslide. Even with Donald 'Grab 'em' Trump as jockey. meh trump as a private citizen comes down a set of escalators and says he is going to run for president and then wins the house, senate, supreme court and wankers want to say he isnt a winner :D :D :D show me where THAT was ever done before ::) ::)

Quote:

trump as a private citizen comes down a set of escalators

The funny thing was that the crowd at the bottom of the escalator were all paid to be there.

The clown was a bad joke from day one.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 4:22pm:

Yes, Trump won the popular vote and the electoral college. Yes, Republicans won the Senate and the House. But, contrary to both Republican talking points and breathless headlines and hot takes from leading media outlets (“resounding”, “rout”, “runaway win”), there was really nothing at all historic or huge about the margin of victory. There was no “landslide”. There was no “blowout”. There was no “sweeping” mandate given to Trump by the electorate. The numbers don’t lie. First, consider the popular vote. Yes, Trump became the first Republican for two decades to win the popular vote. However, per results from CNN, the Cook Political Report, and the New York Times, he did not win a majority of the vote. Barack Obama did in both 2008 and 2012. Joe Biden did in 2020. But Donald Trump failed to do so in 2024. And the former president’s margin of victory over Harris is a miniscule 1.6 percentage points, “smaller than that of every winning president since 1888 other than two: John F Kennedy in 1960 and Richard M Nixon in 1968”, as an analysis in the New York Times noted last month. In fact, in the 55 presidential elections in which the popular vote winner became president, 49 of them were won with a margin bigger than Trump’s in 2024.

It was a landslide.

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Harris wasn't even elected as the Democratic nominee. She has never been elected for anything. She was a puppet's puppet.

A dodged bullet.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 4:22pm:

Yes, Trump won the popular vote and the electoral college. Yes, Republicans won the Senate and the House. But, contrary to both Republican talking points and breathless headlines and hot takes from leading media outlets (“resounding”, “rout”, “runaway win”), there was really nothing at all historic or huge about the margin of victory. There was no “landslide”. There was no “blowout”. There was no “sweeping” mandate given to Trump by the electorate. The numbers don’t lie. First, consider the popular vote. Yes, Trump became the first Republican for two decades to win the popular vote. However, per results from CNN, the Cook Political Report, and the New York Times, he did not win a majority of the vote. Barack Obama did in both 2008 and 2012. Joe Biden did in 2020. But Donald Trump failed to do so in 2024. And the former president’s margin of victory over Harris is a miniscule 1.6 percentage points, “smaller than that of every winning president since 1888 other than two: John F Kennedy in 1960 and Richard M Nixon in 1968”, as an analysis in the New York Times noted last month. In fact, in the 55 presidential elections in which the popular vote winner became president, 49 of them were won with a margin bigger than Trump’s in 2024.

Consider the electoral college. Trump won 312 votes, which is 42 more than is needed to secure victory in the electoral college.

But it’s still far fewer than Bill Clinton won in 1992 (370) and 1996 (379) and far fewer than Barack Obama won in 2008 (365) and 2012 (332).

And it is pretty similar to what Trump himself won in 2016 (304) and what Biden won in 2020 (306).

Trump’s margin of victory in the electoral college ranks 44 out of the 60 presidential elections in American history.

Frank wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 4:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:22pm: Yes, Trump won the popular vote and the electoral college. Yes, Republicans won the Senate and the House. But, contrary to both Republican talking points and breathless headlines and hot takes from leading media outlets (“resounding”, “rout”, “runaway win”), there was really nothing at all historic or huge about the margin of victory. There was no “landslide”. There was no “blowout”. There was no “sweeping” mandate given to Trump by the electorate. The numbers don’t lie. First, consider the popular vote. Yes, Trump became the first Republican for two decades to win the popular vote. However, per results from CNN, the Cook Political Report, and the New York Times, he did not win a majority of the vote. Barack Obama did in both 2008 and 2012. Joe Biden did in 2020. But Donald Trump failed to do so in 2024. And the former president’s margin of victory over Harris is a miniscule 1.6 percentage points, “smaller than that of every winning president since 1888 other than two: John F Kennedy in 1960 and Richard M Nixon in 1968”, as an analysis in the New York Times noted last month. In fact, in the 55 presidential elections in which the popular vote winner became president, 49 of them were won with a margin bigger than Trump’s in 2024. It was a landslide.

Not even close.

Repeat after me: there was no “landslide”. There was no “blowout”. There was no “sweeping” mandate given to Trump by the electorate. The numbers don’t lie.

Frank wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 4:39pm:

Harris wasn't even elected as the Democratic nominee. She has never been elected for anything.

Really?

2007 - elected San Francisco District Attorney with 98.5% of the vote.

2010 - elected California Attorney General (overseeing the largest state Justice Department in the U.S.}

2014 - elected California Attorney General (again).

2016 - elected to the United States Senate in California

2020 - elected Vice President.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 4:52pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:39pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:22pm: Yes, Trump won the popular vote and the electoral college. Yes, Republicans won the Senate and the House. But, contrary to both Republican talking points and breathless headlines and hot takes from leading media outlets (“resounding”, “rout”, “runaway win”), there was really nothing at all historic or huge about the margin of victory. There was no “landslide”. There was no “blowout”. There was no “sweeping” mandate given to Trump by the electorate. The numbers don’t lie. First, consider the popular vote. Yes, Trump became the first Republican for two decades to win the popular vote. However, per results from CNN, the Cook Political Report, and the New York Times, he did not win a majority of the vote. Barack Obama did in both 2008 and 2012. Joe Biden did in 2020. But Donald Trump failed to do so in 2024. And the former president’s margin of victory over Harris is a miniscule 1.6 percentage points, “smaller than that of every winning president since 1888 other than two: John F Kennedy in 1960 and Richard M Nixon in 1968”, as an analysis in the New York Times noted last month. In fact, in the 55 presidential elections in which the popular vote winner became president, 49 of them were won with a margin bigger than Trump’s in 2024. It was a landslide. Not even close. Repeat after me: there was no “landslide”. There was no “blowout”. There was no “sweeping” mandate given to Trump by the electorate. The numbers don’t lie.

Ok, massive victory, then.

In the face of spineless creeps like you and the entire Big Media and Big Uniparty apparatus, Lawfare, two impeachment, unrelenting hate and sledging.

The biggest landslide FU! In living memory.  And FU! is correct.

Karnal, Bbwiyawn, duckwit, cholera et al might think like you, clap like you, sneer like you but you still got nowhere with your 8 years of TDS. You still have your heads up each others' arses, you still talk yeah but no but gibberish. And you will go on doing it for the next 4 years and then for 8 more years of the Vance presidency.

There's 12 YEARS of FU! - keep squirming, leftard regards. How good is T H A T?!!?

Frank wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 5:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:52pm: Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:39pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:22pm: Yes, Trump won the popular vote and the electoral college. Yes, Republicans won the Senate and the House. But, contrary to both Republican talking points and breathless headlines and hot takes from leading media outlets (“resounding”, “rout”, “runaway win”), there was really nothing at all historic or huge about the margin of victory. There was no “landslide”. There was no “blowout”. There was no “sweeping” mandate given to Trump by the electorate. The numbers don’t lie. First, consider the popular vote. Yes, Trump became the first Republican for two decades to win the popular vote. However, per results from CNN, the Cook Political Report, and the New York Times, he did not win a majority of the vote. Barack Obama did in both 2008 and 2012. Joe Biden did in 2020. But Donald Trump failed to do so in 2024. And the former president’s margin of victory over Harris is a miniscule 1.6 percentage points, “smaller than that of every winning president since 1888 other than two: John F Kennedy in 1960 and Richard M Nixon in 1968”, as an analysis in the New York Times noted last month. In fact, in the 55 presidential elections in which the popular vote winner became president, 49 of them were won with a margin bigger than Trump’s in 2024. It was a landslide. Not even close. Repeat after me: there was no “landslide”. There was no “blowout”. There was no “sweeping” mandate given to Trump by the electorate. The numbers don’t lie. Ok, massive victory, then. In the face of spineless creeps like you and the entire Big Media and Big Uniparty apparatus. The biggest landslide FU! In living memory.  And FU! is correct.

Donald Trump didn’t win by a historic landslide. It’s time to nip that lie in the bud

In 2024, we have a new post-election lie – Trump didn’t just win, Republicans say, but he won big. He won a landslide.

That’s false.

Frank wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 5:05pm:

Ok, massive victory, then. The biggest landslide FU! In living memory.

How old are you Frank with a 4 year memory?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 5:12pm:

Donald Trump didn’t win by a historic landslide. It’s time to nip that lie in the bud In 2024, we have a new post-election lie – Trump didn’t just win, Republicans say, but he won big. He won a landslide. That’s false.

:D ;D ;D ;D


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Mehdi Hasan is a broadcaster and author, and a former host on MSNBC. He is also a Guardian US columnist and the editor-in-chief of Zeteo.

chimera wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 5:18pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 5:05pm: Ok, massive victory, then. The biggest landslide FU! In living memory.  How old are you Frank with a 4 year memory?

I wasn't talking about miraculous 3 am 'landslides', cholera.

Frank wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 5:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 5:12pm: Donald Trump didn’t win by a historic landslide. It’s time to nip that lie in the bud In 2024, we have a new post-election lie – Trump didn’t just win, Republicans say, but he won big. He won a landslide. That’s false. :D ;D ;D ;D https://i.guim.co.uk/img/uploads/2024/02/22/Mehdi_Hasan.jpg Mehdi Hasan is a broadcaster and author, and a former host on MSNBC. He is also a Guardian US columnist and the editor-in-chief of Zeteo.

Which of his numbers are incorrect?

We can go through them one by one if you wish.

"First, consider the popular vote. Yes, Trump became the first Republican for two decades to win the popular vote. However, per results from CNN, the Cook Political Report, and the New York Times, he did not win a majority of the vote. Barack Obama did in both 2008 and 2012. Joe Biden did in 2020. But Donald Trump failed to do so in 2024."

So, is any of that incorrect?

No, of course it isn't.  They're all verifiable facts.

So, what will you do now - change the subject (the obvious move from you) or maybe make fun of the messenger's name?

Dnarever wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 4:28pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 1:41pm: chimera wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 1:26pm: sorry, punter. If a horse stops at 49.9% or 99%, of the distance to win, it gets no prize. Even it gets along by a landslide. Even with Donald 'Grab 'em' Trump as jockey. meh trump as a private citizen comes down a set of escalators and says he is going to run for president and then wins the house, senate, supreme court and wankers want to say he isnt a winner :D :D :D show me where THAT was ever done before ::) ::) Quote: trump as a private citizen comes down a set of escalators The funny thing was that the crowd at the bottom of the escalator were all paid to be there. The clown was a bad joke from day one.

WOW


thats awesome

how did he translate THAT into 8 years in the white house

a freaking legend !!!!!!!!!!!

if you or pecca hired some people and came down a set of escalators and said you were running for prime minister, how would you go,  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

you might get your mummy and daddy to vote for you.


time to admit what a winner the big fella is

can we get a  pic of e jean in an orange prison suit please  :) :)

Dnarever wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 4:28pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 1:41pm: chimera wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 1:26pm: sorry, punter. If a horse stops at 49.9% or 99%, of the distance to win, it gets no prize. Even it gets along by a landslide. Even with Donald 'Grab 'em' Trump as jockey. meh trump as a private citizen comes down a set of escalators and says he is going to run for president and then wins the house, senate, supreme court and wankers want to say he isnt a winner :D :D :D show me where THAT was ever done before ::) ::) Quote: trump as a private citizen comes down a set of escalators The funny thing was that the crowd at the bottom of the escalator were all paid to be there.

They were all hired extras, offered $50 each to pretend they were there to support Trump - that's absolutely true.

However, as with most people employed by Trump, it's very unlikely that any of them were actually paid.

Frank wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 4:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:22pm: Yes, Trump won the popular vote and the electoral college. Yes, Republicans won the Senate and the House. But, contrary to both Republican talking points and breathless headlines and hot takes from leading media outlets (“resounding”, “rout”, “runaway win”), there was really nothing at all historic or huge about the margin of victory. There was no “landslide”. There was no “blowout”. There was no “sweeping” mandate given to Trump by the electorate. The numbers don’t lie. First, consider the popular vote. Yes, Trump became the first Republican for two decades to win the popular vote. However, per results from CNN, the Cook Political Report, and the New York Times, he did not win a majority of the vote. Barack Obama did in both 2008 and 2012. Joe Biden did in 2020. But Donald Trump failed to do so in 2024. And the former president’s margin of victory over Harris is a miniscule 1.6 percentage points, “smaller than that of every winning president since 1888 other than two: John F Kennedy in 1960 and Richard M Nixon in 1968”, as an analysis in the New York Times noted last month. In fact, in the 55 presidential elections in which the popular vote winner became president, 49 of them were won with a margin bigger than Trump’s in 2024. It was a landslide. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/ElectoralCollege2024.svg/522px-ElectoralCollege2024.svg.png Harris wasn't even elected as the Democratic nominee. She has never been elected for anything. She was a puppet's puppet. A dodged bullet.

Bulldust,

WASHINGTON — The Democratic National Committee announced late Monday that Vice President Kamala Harris had secured the support of 99% of delegates to formally become the party’s presidential nominee, following the conclusion of a five-day virtual vote.

The results, which included a state-by-state breakdown, followed the DNC announcing Friday that Harris had surpassed the number of delegates needed to become the nominee as voting proceeded. She was the only candidate to qualify. The DNC said 4,567 delegates cast their votes for her.

The next steps will be the certification of the roll call by the convention secretary, Jason Rae, and the acceptance of the nomination by Harris and her running mate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz.

why are trump supporters so dumb?

scope wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 6:32pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:39pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:22pm: Yes, Trump won the popular vote and the electoral college. Yes, Republicans won the Senate and the House. But, contrary to both Republican talking points and breathless headlines and hot takes from leading media outlets (“resounding”, “rout”, “runaway win”), there was really nothing at all historic or huge about the margin of victory. There was no “landslide”. There was no “blowout”. There was no “sweeping” mandate given to Trump by the electorate. The numbers don’t lie. First, consider the popular vote. Yes, Trump became the first Republican for two decades to win the popular vote. However, per results from CNN, the Cook Political Report, and the New York Times, he did not win a majority of the vote. Barack Obama did in both 2008 and 2012. Joe Biden did in 2020. But Donald Trump failed to do so in 2024. And the former president’s margin of victory over Harris is a miniscule 1.6 percentage points, “smaller than that of every winning president since 1888 other than two: John F Kennedy in 1960 and Richard M Nixon in 1968”, as an analysis in the New York Times noted last month. In fact, in the 55 presidential elections in which the popular vote winner became president, 49 of them were won with a margin bigger than Trump’s in 2024. It was a landslide. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/ElectoralCollege2024.svg/522px-ElectoralCollege2024.svg.png Harris wasn't even elected as the Democratic nominee. She has never been elected for anything. She was a puppet's puppet. A dodged bullet. Bulldust, WASHINGTON — The Democratic National Committee announced late Monday that Vice President Kamala Harris had secured the support of 99% of delegates to formally become the party’s presidential nominee, following the conclusion of a five-day virtual vote. The results, which included a state-by-state breakdown, followed the DNC announcing Friday that Harris had surpassed the number of delegates needed to become the nominee as voting proceeded. She was the only candidate to qualify. The DNC said 4,567 delegates cast their votes for her. The next steps will be the certification of the roll call by the convention secretary, Jason Rae, and the acceptance of the nomination by Harris and her running mate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz. why are trump supporters so dumb?

Losers.

Harris was the only candidate eligible to receive votes after no other candidate qualified by the party’s deadline.



You mongs are worse than Stalin or Mao. In2025.
Hideous.

scope wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 6:32pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:39pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:22pm: Yes, Trump won the popular vote and the electoral college. Yes, Republicans won the Senate and the House. But, contrary to both Republican talking points and breathless headlines and hot takes from leading media outlets (“resounding”, “rout”, “runaway win”), there was really nothing at all historic or huge about the margin of victory. There was no “landslide”. There was no “blowout”. There was no “sweeping” mandate given to Trump by the electorate. The numbers don’t lie. First, consider the popular vote. Yes, Trump became the first Republican for two decades to win the popular vote. However, per results from CNN, the Cook Political Report, and the New York Times, he did not win a majority of the vote. Barack Obama did in both 2008 and 2012. Joe Biden did in 2020. But Donald Trump failed to do so in 2024. And the former president’s margin of victory over Harris is a miniscule 1.6 percentage points, “smaller than that of every winning president since 1888 other than two: John F Kennedy in 1960 and Richard M Nixon in 1968”, as an analysis in the New York Times noted last month. In fact, in the 55 presidential elections in which the popular vote winner became president, 49 of them were won with a margin bigger than Trump’s in 2024. It was a landslide. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/ElectoralCollege2024.svg/522px-ElectoralCollege2024.svg.png Harris wasn't even elected as the Democratic nominee. She has never been elected for anything. She was a puppet's puppet. A dodged bullet. Bulldust, WASHINGTON — The Democratic National Committee announced late Monday that Vice President Kamala Harris had secured the support of 99% of delegates to formally become the party’s presidential nominee, following the conclusion of a five-day virtual vote. The results, which included a state-by-state breakdown, followed the DNC announcing Friday that Harris had surpassed the number of delegates needed to become the nominee as voting proceeded. She was the only candidate to qualify. The DNC said 4,567 delegates cast their votes for her. The next steps will be the certification of the roll call by the convention secretary, Jason Rae, and the acceptance of the nomination by Harris and her running mate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz. why are trump supporters so dumb?

I wish I knew.

Not only was she elected as the Democratic nominee, but also this:

2007 - elected San Francisco District Attorney with 98.5% of the vote.

2010 - elected California Attorney General (overseeing the largest state Justice Department in the U.S.}

2014 - elected California Attorney General (again).

2016 - elected to the United States Senate in California

2020 - elected Vice President.

Some days I think Frank might be having a little too much medication.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 6:36pm:

scope wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 6:32pm: Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:39pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:22pm: Yes, Trump won the popular vote and the electoral college. Yes, Republicans won the Senate and the House. But, contrary to both Republican talking points and breathless headlines and hot takes from leading media outlets (“resounding”, “rout”, “runaway win”), there was really nothing at all historic or huge about the margin of victory. There was no “landslide”. There was no “blowout”. There was no “sweeping” mandate given to Trump by the electorate. The numbers don’t lie. First, consider the popular vote. Yes, Trump became the first Republican for two decades to win the popular vote. However, per results from CNN, the Cook Political Report, and the New York Times, he did not win a majority of the vote. Barack Obama did in both 2008 and 2012. Joe Biden did in 2020. But Donald Trump failed to do so in 2024. And the former president’s margin of victory over Harris is a miniscule 1.6 percentage points, “smaller than that of every winning president since 1888 other than two: John F Kennedy in 1960 and Richard M Nixon in 1968”, as an analysis in the New York Times noted last month. In fact, in the 55 presidential elections in which the popular vote winner became president, 49 of them were won with a margin bigger than Trump’s in 2024. It was a landslide. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/ElectoralCollege2024.svg/522px-ElectoralCollege2024.svg.png Harris wasn't even elected as the Democratic nominee. She has never been elected for anything. She was a puppet's puppet. A dodged bullet. Bulldust, WASHINGTON — The Democratic National Committee announced late Monday that Vice President Kamala Harris had secured the support of 99% of delegates to formally become the party’s presidential nominee, following the conclusion of a five-day virtual vote. The results, which included a state-by-state breakdown, followed the DNC announcing Friday that Harris had surpassed the number of delegates needed to become the nominee as voting proceeded. She was the only candidate to qualify. The DNC said 4,567 delegates cast their votes for her. The next steps will be the certification of the roll call by the convention secretary, Jason Rae, and the acceptance of the nomination by Harris and her running mate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz. why are trump supporters so dumb? I wish I knew. Not only was she elected as the Democratic nominee, but also this: 2007 - elected San Francisco District Attorney with 98.5% of the vote. 2010 - elected California Attorney General (overseeing the largest state Justice Department in the U.S.} 2014 - elected California Attorney General (again). 2016 - elected to the United States Senate in California 2020 - elected Vice President. Some days I think Frank might be having a little too much medication.

Losers.

Harris was the only candidate eligible to receive votes after no other candidate qualified by the party’s deadline.



You mongs are worse than Stalin or Mao. In2025.
Hideous.

Frank wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 6:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 6:36pm: scope wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 6:32pm: Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:39pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:22pm: Yes, Trump won the popular vote and the electoral college. Yes, Republicans won the Senate and the House. But, contrary to both Republican talking points and breathless headlines and hot takes from leading media outlets (“resounding”, “rout”, “runaway win”), there was really nothing at all historic or huge about the margin of victory. There was no “landslide”. There was no “blowout”. There was no “sweeping” mandate given to Trump by the electorate. The numbers don’t lie. First, consider the popular vote. Yes, Trump became the first Republican for two decades to win the popular vote. However, per results from CNN, the Cook Political Report, and the New York Times, he did not win a majority of the vote. Barack Obama did in both 2008 and 2012. Joe Biden did in 2020. But Donald Trump failed to do so in 2024. And the former president’s margin of victory over Harris is a miniscule 1.6 percentage points, “smaller than that of every winning president since 1888 other than two: John F Kennedy in 1960 and Richard M Nixon in 1968”, as an analysis in the New York Times noted last month. In fact, in the 55 presidential elections in which the popular vote winner became president, 49 of them were won with a margin bigger than Trump’s in 2024. It was a landslide. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/ElectoralCollege2024.svg/522px-ElectoralCollege2024.svg.png Harris wasn't even elected as the Democratic nominee. She has never been elected for anything. She was a puppet's puppet. A dodged bullet. Bulldust, WASHINGTON — The Democratic National Committee announced late Monday that Vice President Kamala Harris had secured the support of 99% of delegates to formally become the party’s presidential nominee, following the conclusion of a five-day virtual vote. The results, which included a state-by-state breakdown, followed the DNC announcing Friday that Harris had surpassed the number of delegates needed to become the nominee as voting proceeded. She was the only candidate to qualify. The DNC said 4,567 delegates cast their votes for her. The next steps will be the certification of the roll call by the convention secretary, Jason Rae, and the acceptance of the nomination by Harris and her running mate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz. why are trump supporters so dumb? I wish I knew. Not only was she elected as the Democratic nominee, but also this: 2007 - elected San Francisco District Attorney with 98.5% of the vote. 2010 - elected California Attorney General (overseeing the largest state Justice Department in the U.S.} 2014 - elected California Attorney General (again). 2016 - elected to the United States Senate in California 2020 - elected Vice President. Some days I think Frank might be having a little too much medication. Losers. Harris was the only candidate eligible to receive votes after no other candidate qualified by the party’s deadline.

And what about this:

2007 - elected San Francisco District Attorney with 98.5% of the vote.

2010 - elected California Attorney General (overseeing the largest state Justice Department in the U.S.}

2014 - elected California Attorney General (again).

2016 - elected to the United States Senate in California

2020 - elected Vice President.

Frank wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 5:21pm:

chimera wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 5:18pm: Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 5:05pm: Ok, massive victory, then. The biggest landslide FU! In living memory.  How old are you Frank with a 4 year memory? I wasn't talking about miraculous 3 am 'landslides', cholera.

That's nice, Frank. You are not talking about them.  You like Mr Trump, Frank. He is funny and orange.

aquascoot wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 2:23pm:

trumpy may usher in a golden age because the system was broken and he has put "disruptors" in key areas. vivak, elon, tulsi , RFK are entrepreneurial and are all arse kickers america is going to see some change and chaos and change and chaos ALWAYS provide opportunities. look at the chaos of pearl harbour and WW2 quite a "disruptive" event resulted in the innovators being given the green light and the civil service having their arse kicked australia probably needs a similar mindset a "war cabinet" mentality time to unleash the entrepreneurs and the chodes can be weaned off the government titty people living their whole lives suckling on albos titties? its disgusting

We knew it. You always were a war nut. You and your Palestinian Stalingrad Solution?

The Real Americans despise you and your kind. They boo and hiss every time John Bolton appears on the box.

Remember him? Your DL's loyal, longest-serving NSA. Rex Drill Baby Drill Tillerson?

Your DL's Secretary of State. And who could forget the loyal Bill Banged To Rights Barr?

He certainly banged your DL, oh ya. All of them did. Your DL can't possibly do what you say because, as they've all testified, he's a loon. Bloated, obese, yesterday's man, and a pussy-grabbing felon. How do we know?

You said.

Will you be having fries with your Maccas?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 3:40pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 3:39pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 3:36pm: Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 12:51pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 12:08pm: Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 10:16am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 10:12am: Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day? No. No they did not. Frank wrote on Dec 30th, 2024 at 1:57pm: With a voter turnout around 66% in 2020, the majority of voters did not want Biden  who got a bit over 51% off the 66% = around a third of the voters. O'bama in 2008, ditto. 61% turnout, he got 53% of that a bit under a third. Even less in 2012, 59% turnout with 51% of that for Hussein Obama. Worse than Dubya in 2004 or Trump in 2024. In 2016 Trump got 46% of a 60% turnout and still won, to Hillary's apoplectic chagrin. In 2024 he got half of a 64% turnout.  Better than slick Willy in 1996 or 1992. Better than Obama in 2012 and about the same as Biden in 2020. Importantly, better than Trump himself in 2016. Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day? No. No they did not. You coulda said the same about Harris, Biden, Hillary, Hussein O'bama - ... Biden - 51.3% Obama - 52.9% Obama 51.1% All more than 50%. Year nine maths, innit? Of what voter turn-out,  you spineless, creepy mong? Max 66%, mostly mid-50s. I'll give you this: you're consistent. Every time you lose an argument, you change the subject.

Always absolutely never ever, that's the old boy's motto.

Frothing, ranting, spineless, squishy, reflexive, yeah-but-no-but stilts.

The old boy's ventriloquist dummy has finally taken over the old boy. You get that.

The poor thing hasn't changed his schtick since 2015.

WITCH HUNT !!!

Frank wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 6:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 6:36pm: scope wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 6:32pm: Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:39pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:22pm: Yes, Trump won the popular vote and the electoral college. Yes, Republicans won the Senate and the House. But, contrary to both Republican talking points and breathless headlines and hot takes from leading media outlets (“resounding”, “rout”, “runaway win”), there was really nothing at all historic or huge about the margin of victory. There was no “landslide”. There was no “blowout”. There was no “sweeping” mandate given to Trump by the electorate. The numbers don’t lie. First, consider the popular vote. Yes, Trump became the first Republican for two decades to win the popular vote. However, per results from CNN, the Cook Political Report, and the New York Times, he did not win a majority of the vote. Barack Obama did in both 2008 and 2012. Joe Biden did in 2020. But Donald Trump failed to do so in 2024. And the former president’s margin of victory over Harris is a miniscule 1.6 percentage points, “smaller than that of every winning president since 1888 other than two: John F Kennedy in 1960 and Richard M Nixon in 1968”, as an analysis in the New York Times noted last month. In fact, in the 55 presidential elections in which the popular vote winner became president, 49 of them were won with a margin bigger than Trump’s in 2024. It was a landslide. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/ElectoralCollege2024.svg/522px-ElectoralCollege2024.svg.png Harris wasn't even elected as the Democratic nominee. She has never been elected for anything. She was a puppet's puppet. A dodged bullet. Bulldust, WASHINGTON — The Democratic National Committee announced late Monday that Vice President Kamala Harris had secured the support of 99% of delegates to formally become the party’s presidential nominee, following the conclusion of a five-day virtual vote. The results, which included a state-by-state breakdown, followed the DNC announcing Friday that Harris had surpassed the number of delegates needed to become the nominee as voting proceeded. She was the only candidate to qualify. The DNC said 4,567 delegates cast their votes for her. The next steps will be the certification of the roll call by the convention secretary, Jason Rae, and the acceptance of the nomination by Harris and her running mate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz. why are trump supporters so dumb? I wish I knew. Not only was she elected as the Democratic nominee, but also this: 2007 - elected San Francisco District Attorney with 98.5% of the vote. 2010 - elected California Attorney General (overseeing the largest state Justice Department in the U.S.} 2014 - elected California Attorney General (again). 2016 - elected to the United States Senate in California 2020 - elected Vice President. Some days I think Frank might be having a little too much medication. Losers. Harris was the only candidate eligible to receive votes after no other candidate qualified by the party’s deadline. You mongs are worse than Stalin or Mao. In2025. Hideous.

So she was elected then, yet here you are trying your hardest to recover from the statement you made,which was incorrect. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

scope wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2025 at 7:14am:

Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 6:40pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 6:36pm: scope wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 6:32pm: Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:39pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:22pm: Yes, Trump won the popular vote and the electoral college. Yes, Republicans won the Senate and the House. But, contrary to both Republican talking points and breathless headlines and hot takes from leading media outlets (“resounding”, “rout”, “runaway win”), there was really nothing at all historic or huge about the margin of victory. There was no “landslide”. There was no “blowout”. There was no “sweeping” mandate given to Trump by the electorate. The numbers don’t lie. First, consider the popular vote. Yes, Trump became the first Republican for two decades to win the popular vote. However, per results from CNN, the Cook Political Report, and the New York Times, he did not win a majority of the vote. Barack Obama did in both 2008 and 2012. Joe Biden did in 2020. But Donald Trump failed to do so in 2024. And the former president’s margin of victory over Harris is a miniscule 1.6 percentage points, “smaller than that of every winning president since 1888 other than two: John F Kennedy in 1960 and Richard M Nixon in 1968”, as an analysis in the New York Times noted last month. In fact, in the 55 presidential elections in which the popular vote winner became president, 49 of them were won with a margin bigger than Trump’s in 2024. It was a landslide. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/ElectoralCollege2024.svg/522px-ElectoralCollege2024.svg.png Harris wasn't even elected as the Democratic nominee. She has never been elected for anything. She was a puppet's puppet. A dodged bullet. Bulldust, WASHINGTON — The Democratic National Committee announced late Monday that Vice President Kamala Harris had secured the support of 99% of delegates to formally become the party’s presidential nominee, following the conclusion of a five-day virtual vote. The results, which included a state-by-state breakdown, followed the DNC announcing Friday that Harris had surpassed the number of delegates needed to become the nominee as voting proceeded. She was the only candidate to qualify. The DNC said 4,567 delegates cast their votes for her. The next steps will be the certification of the roll call by the convention secretary, Jason Rae, and the acceptance of the nomination by Harris and her running mate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz. why are trump supporters so dumb? I wish I knew. Not only was she elected as the Democratic nominee, but also this: 2007 - elected San Francisco District Attorney with 98.5% of the vote. 2010 - elected California Attorney General (overseeing the largest state Justice Department in the U.S.} 2014 - elected California Attorney General (again). 2016 - elected to the United States Senate in California 2020 - elected Vice President. Some days I think Frank might be having a little too much medication. Losers. Harris was the only candidate eligible to receive votes after no other candidate qualified by the party’s deadline. You mongs are worse than Stalin or Mao. In2025. Hideous. So she was elected then, yet here you are trying your hardest to recover from the statement you made,which was incorrect. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

all those laughing emojis.

and yet trump is now the most powerful man on earth .

perhaps this expression resonates

"he who laughs last , laughest loudest " ;D ;D ;D ;D

enjoy your 4 years in the wilderness

i know trump is going to enjoy himself

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