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Title: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 10:55am

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Judge orders Trump sentencing in New York on Jan. 10

Source: Washington Post
Quote:

President-elect Donald Trump will be sentenced on 34 counts of falsifying business records ahead of his swearing-in as president on Jan. 20, a judge ruled Friday. New York Supreme Court Justice Juan Merchan wrote that he plans to order an “unconditional discharge,” a designation in New York criminal courts for a non-jail and non-probation sentence that carries no other obligations.......

Just got this Washington Post Newsletter in my email this morning!

Great news to welcome me on my return from the USA.....GREAT NEWS!!!

Just 16 more days until the BIG DAY.......Monday, January 20, 2025.......can't come too soon!!!

..

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:18am

Panther wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 10:55am:

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Judge orders Trump sentencing in New York on Jan. 10

Source: Washington Post
Quote:

Strange. Here's what the Guardian has to say on the matter.

Quote:

Judge Juan Merchan, who presided over Trump’s trial in New York, denied the president-elect’s motion to dismiss the case due to his election victory in November. He said Trump is expected to appear for sentencing either in-person or virtually.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Frank on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:24am

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:18am:

I believe your previous take on doing crime involved doing time, Panther.

What does your much loved Constitution have to say about sentencing criminals for felonies?

There was no crime.

There was invention of crimes.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:37am

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:18am:

Panther wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 10:55am:

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Judge orders Trump sentencing in New York on Jan. 10

Source: Washington Post
Quote:

Strange. Here's what the Guardian has to say on the matter.

[quote]Judge Juan Merchan, who presided over Trump’s trial in New York, denied the president-elect’s motion to dismiss the case due to his election victory in November. He said Trump is expected to appear for sentencing either in-person or virtually.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:40am

Frank wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:24am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:18am:

I believe your previous take on doing crime involved doing time, Panther.

What does your much loved Constitution have to say about sentencing criminals for felonies?

There was no crime.

There was invention of crimes.

This, you see, is where your cult leads you, old boy. You've learned you can deny reality altogether. The response is for everybody to gather round you, all erstwhile and sincere, spelling out the facts and helping you to see the light. You love all that.

It's a form of shit and run, your old favourite. Take a shit on someone's doorstep, knock and run off, having a right old giggle as you go. They're left at the door:

Hello? I'm sure I heard something. Who is it? Oh no, I've stepped in it. Those kids! I'll get you!

But we know, old boy, and we know you know too. You can just repeat the lie. What are they going to do? They're standing there with your shit all over their shoe - what are they going to do?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Frank on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 12:48pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:40am:

Frank wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:24am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:18am:

I believe your previous take on doing crime involved doing time, Panther.

What does your much loved Constitution have to say about sentencing criminals for felonies?

There was no crime.

There was invention of crimes.

This case is so obviously politically motivated, and even America’s corrupt media are at a loss to defend this: “An Associated Press analysis of nearly 70 years of similar cases showed Trump’s case stands apart: It’s the only big business found that was threatened with a shutdown without a showing of obvious victims and major losses.”
https://thefederalist.com/2024/03/26/new-yorks-fraud-judgment-against-trump-is-so-bad-even-his-biggest-critics-arent-defending-it/

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 12:50pm

Panther wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:37am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:18am:

Panther wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 10:55am:

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Judge orders Trump sentencing in New York on Jan. 10

Source: Washington Post
Quote:

Nope, & being the sentencing on the charges rests with New York State, one would conclude the ability to 'unconditionally dismiss' is their prerogative as well.

Happy New Year ;)
[/quote]

Sorry? Their prerogative?

You said Justice Juan Merchan wrote that he plans to order an unconditional dismissal. Justice Juan Merchan just wrote the exact opposite.

Justice Juan Merchan just ordered your DL to attend court, sit there quietly as he goes through the facts of his crimes, reads out the victim impact statements, goes over the forensic psych report and offender profile, outlines the typical penalties for such crimes and previous sentences, then puts it all into context. He'll explain how your DL filed fraudulent business statements, lied during his depositions, engaged in witness intimidation, lied to the media about court officials, watched on as their lives were threatened by his supporters including bomb threats to his own home. He'll show how your DL got his lawyer to take the rap and let him do three years in jail for his very own crimes, then ordered his former lawyer to be illegally detained in isolation, ruled to be the worst case of government retaliation justice ever seen during the ruling judge's 21 year career.He'll show how your DL did all this to deceive and defraud American voters, of which you are one.

So no, Panther, your DL has received no unconditional dismissal and faces sentencing on Jan 10. But I'm curious. Given your professed love of truth and justice, why would you pretend otherwise?

I do hope you haven't joined the poor old boy in his game of shit and run. You're our board's resident constitutional scholar. If you'd get muddled up about something as important as this - the criminal sentencing of your future POTUS - where can we turn for our future Constitutional advice?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by lee on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 12:58pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 12:50pm:

Justice Juan Merchan just ordered your DL to attend court, sit there quietly as he goes through the facts of his crimes, reads out the victim impact statements, goes over the forensic psych report and offender profile, outlines the typical penalties for such crimes and previous sentences, then puts it all into context.

Nothing there about NOT giving unconditional dismissal. He merely stated he wouldn't give an unconditional dismissal based on his winning the Presidential battle. ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 1:03pm

Frank wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 12:48pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:40am:

Frank wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:24am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:18am:

I believe your previous take on doing crime involved doing time, Panther.

What does your much loved Constitution have to say about sentencing criminals for felonies?

There was no crime.

There was invention of crimes.

Oh, I see. So you've tuned down the dial from no crime to prosecutors having political motives.

34 criminal convictions - on top of the recent business fraud rulings, the sexual assault verdict and the arrests in three other federal jurisdictions on charges which, according to his own Attorney General, he's banged to rights on.

Come come, dear boy, it was so much cuter when you were sniggering over the fence. No crime!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 1:06pm

Sentencing?

Why would he need to be sentenced?

Oh, that's right - he's a convicted criminal.

Found guilty on 34 felony charges.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 1:08pm

lee wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 12:58pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 12:50pm:

Nothing there about NOT giving unconditional dismissal. He merely stated he wouldn't give an unconditional dismissal based on his winning the Presidential battle. ::)

But of course. That's because Panther didn't share the full article his friends were so keen to email.

Cunning, no?

Quote:

Since Trump’s victory in November, his lawyers have argued that anything short of dismissing the case would violate laws that protect the transition process and grant immunity from prosecution to sitting presidents.

In his decision, Merchan rejected those arguments. He called the Trump team’s claims a “novel theory” of presidential immunity that would amount to an abuse of his legal discretion.

“The Defendant has presented no valid argument to convince this Court otherwise,” he wrote. “Binding precedent does not provide that an individual, upon becoming President, can retroactively dismiss or vacate prior criminal acts nor does it grant blanket Presidential-elect immunity. This Court is therefore forbidden from recognizing either form of immunity.”

Merchan also dismissed a contention from Trump lawyers that the case was weak from the start, noting that Trump’s stature — as a presidential candidate in 2016 and as president in 2017 — made his behavior all the more egregious.

Finding otherwise would “cause immeasurable damage to the citizenry’s confidence in the Rule of Law,” the judge wrote. “It was the premeditated and continuous deception by the leader of the free world that is the gravamen of this offense.”

Trump’s lawyers tested Merchan’s patience in court, and the judge has criticized them for making what he described as baseless and repetitive arguments in their bid to get the conviction dismissed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/01/03/trump-new-york-hush-money-conviction-sentence/

FAKE NEWS !!!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by lee on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 1:13pm

Still nothing there about NOT making an unconditional dismissal. Try finding that not related to his Presidency. There's a good chap. ;)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 1:24pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 1:06pm:

Sentencing?

Why would he need to be sentenced?

Oh, that's right - he's a convicted criminal.

Found guilty on 34 felony charges.

Now now, Greggery, don't be like that.

We've been through all this before. Lee's no Trump supporter, oh no.

The old boy never said anything about the rule of law.

Panther never wanted to get tough on crime or lock up corrupt politicians.

There's nothing to see here, dear. Just another day at the office, no?

Always absolutely never ever.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 1:27pm

'Judge Juan Merchan, who presided over Trump’s trial in New York, denied the president-elect’s motion to dismiss the case due to his election victory in November.'

The words are Trump's claim, not the Judge's reasoning. The dismissal is denied, totally.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 1:32pm

It appears that Panther is confusing the sentencing's “unconditional discharge” with the convictions being dismissed.

I'm sorry Panther, but the convictions remain - no charges are being dismissed.

Trump remains a convicted criminal, and will do for the rest of his life.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 1:33pm

Frank wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 12:48pm:

: “An Associated Press analysis of nearly 70 years of similar cases showed Trump’s case stands apart: It’s the only big business found that was threatened with a shutdown without a showing of obvious victims and major losses.”

?
'As a team of legal analysts at the think tank Just Security note, New York courts have found “intent to defraud” in a wide range of false business records cases that did not involve financial damages to any individual,'
https://www.vox.com/politics/353111/trump-trial-verdict-criticisms-wrongly-convicted

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 1:58pm

lee wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 1:13pm:

Still nothing there about NOT making an unconditional dismissal. Try finding that not related to his Presidency. There's a good chap. ;)

Oh, I see. You're after the judge's additional words, are you?

I'm afraid you'll have to read the article for that, Lee. I'd advise you to click on the link to Judge Merchan's ruling, it's all there.

Feel free to have a squiz, mill it over a bit, consider his arguments, references and case law precedents, including his rebuttal of the defence's "Alabama Rule", all in Judge Merchan's clearly written ruling, where he rules out dismissal absolutely.

Never ever, he says, absolutely not. Justice must be served.. DL will be sentenced in court, just like any other convicted felon found guilty by a jury of his peers. It would be a cold day in hell before a convicted criminal was dismissed from sentencing in the state of New York!

I'm paraphrasing, of course, but do feel free to click on the link and read it for yourself. You're no Trump supporter, I know, but I'm sure the Washington Post hasn't made it all up.

FAKE NEWS !!!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 2:05pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 12:50pm:

Panther wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:37am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:18am:

Panther wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 10:55am:

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Judge orders Trump sentencing in New York on Jan. 10

Source: Washington Post
Quote:

Nope, & being the sentencing on the charges rests with New York State, one would conclude the ability to 'unconditionally dismiss' is their prerogative as well.

Happy New Year ;)

Sorry? Their prerogative?

You said Justice Juan Merchan wrote that he plans to order an unconditional dismissal. Justice Juan Merchan just wrote the exact opposite.

Justice Juan Merchan just ordered your DL to attend court, sit there quietly as he goes through the facts of his crimes, reads out the victim impact statements, goes over the forensic psych report and offender profile, outlines the typical penalties for such crimes and previous sentences, then puts it all into context. He'll explain how your DL filed fraudulent business statements, lied during his depositions, engaged in witness intimidation, lied to the media about court officials, watched on as their lives were threatened by his supporters including bomb threats to his own home. He'll show how your DL got his lawyer to take the rap and let him do three years in jail for his very own crimes, then ordered his former lawyer to be illegally detained in isolation, ruled to be the worst case of government retaliation justice ever seen during the ruling judge's 21 year career.He'll show how your DL did all this to deceive and defraud American voters, of which you are one.

So no, Panther, your DL has received no unconditional dismissal and faces sentencing on Jan 10. But I'm curious. Given your professed love of truth and justice, why would you pretend otherwise?

I do hope you haven't joined the poor old boy in his game of shit and run. You're our board's resident constitutional scholar. If you'd get muddled up about something as important as this - the criminal sentencing of your future POTUS - where can we turn for our future Constitutional advice? [/quote]

Now, now Karnal, please don't get yer TDS Panties all in a twist.

We all know you must be quite butthurt that your favorite tinted lil missy candidate lost the Presidential Election to President Donald John Trump.

Now, I will provide you with a genuine source where you can feast your eyes upon the facts......it's time for you to get informed.

Continued below............

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 2:06pm

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Judge upholds Trump’s felony conviction, but does not plan to order jail time.

Sentencing is scheduled Jan. 10 for President-elect Donald Trump,
who was found guilty by a jury in May of falsifying business records.

Updated
January 3, 2025 at 9:47 p.m.

..
Source: WASHINGTON POST
Quote:

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NEW YORK — President-elect Donald Trump will be sentenced on 34 counts of falsifying business records ahead of his swearing-in Jan. 20, but is not expected to face jail time, a judge ruled Friday.

The decision to uphold Trump’s conviction and schedule the sentencing for Jan. 10 almost certainly means Trump will be the first felon to serve as a U.S. president.

New York Supreme Court Justice Juan Merchan wrote in his ruling that he does not intend to sentence Trump to jail. He said he plans to order an “unconditional discharge,” a designation in New York criminal courts for a non-jail and non-probation sentence that carries no other obligations.

The sentencing hearing is scheduled a day after Trump is set to attend memorial services in Washington for former president Jimmy Carter, who died Dec. 29 at age 100. Merchan said Trump has the option of attending the hearing at the courthouse in downtown Manhattan or participating via an online video link

.........continued

..

Now Karnal, please consider yourself informed of the facts......

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 2:13pm

Frank, meet Panther.
Panther, Frank.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 2:17pm

Panther wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 2:06pm:

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Judge upholds Trump’s felony conviction, ...

Indeed.

Trump will remain a convicted criminal for the rest of his life.

How proud Americans must be to have a felon as their President.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 2:20pm

chimera wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 1:27pm:

Ah yes, but that's the plan, you see?

DL sends his lawyers into court to shriek SO UNFAIR and demand an immediate dismissal.

When their arguments are thrown out, DL sets his propaganda wing into effect, posting on Truth Social, giving Fox News the talking points, retweeting the social media influencers who parrot the lines and, for old timers like Panther, sending emails out to the worshippers.

They then come to sites like this to spread the lies even more. Panther wishes us a happy new year, the old boy throws a tanty, Lee sifts through the words and letters trying to find an out, and if I'm not mistaken, Aquascoot will be here soon to say how awesome his DL is to be able to rewrite history and overturn truth itself - not so much a man as a God.

When they're done, we have a massive win in court with all charges fully dismissed. A "win/win".

I'm not sure what we're supposed to win out of all this, but it must be good. They all seem so pleased with it all.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 3:04pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 2:17pm:

Panther wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 2:06pm:

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Judge upholds Trump’s felony conviction, ...

Indeed.

Trump will remain a convicted criminal for the rest of his life.

How proud Americans must be to have a felon as their President.

77 Million+ Proud American Voters......including myself......proudly voted for President Donald John Trump knowing full well he was, rightfully or wrongfully, already convicted in New York State of State Felonies well before we proudly voted for him as our President.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 3:25pm

Panther wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 2:06pm:

Now Karnal, please consider yourself informed of the facts......

Thanks for the correction, Panther. So your DL's case has not been unconditionally dismissed at all. His conviction on 34 felonies stands. He now faces sentencing on Jan 10, where we'll all get to hear his crimes, their seriousness, and the sentence he would have received if he didn't get elected as your POTUS.

You're right. This is indeed a great day. President Elect Donald John Trump does not get to evade justice in the state of New York. He will be forced to attend court and stand silent as his sentence is heard, recorded and remembered. His face will be filmed for the duration of sentencing. The fake news will record his perp walk to his black SUV afterwards.

If your DL chooses to disobey New York law and not attend, a warrant will be issued for his arrest on Jan 28, 2028.

This is the law, exactly what you have been cherishing on our board for as long as you have been a member. If I recall, your position has been as follows:

You believe in law, order, truth, justice and the American way. You would never support a politician with a whiff of corruption and criminality. That's for the leftards. You demand your leaders be moral, upright, examples of righteous intent, a model for the young. A suspected criminal? Never ever. Hell would have to freeze over first.

Then you changed your mind, as people do. Okay, you said, you might support someone being investigated, that's just allegations. But you would never support anyone with indictments before a court, or courts, of law. That was your red line. People can say all sorts of things, but indicted by the courts? Hell would have to have penguins swimming around and polar bears.

Next, you changed again, do you remember? Actually, you said, you might be inclined to support a politician with indictments, depending on the circumstances but never someone with a conviction, made by a jury of his/her peers. That would be unconscionable and beyond reproach. Not on your watch, you said, not in America. Hell would have to Eskimos living in igloos and fishing through the ice.

Now? You support a criminal convicted on 34 felonies, multiple civil rulings for bank, business, charity fraud, sexual assault, banned from doing business in New York and an additional three criminal indictments, one for preventing the peaceful transfer of power, facing the rest of his life in jail.

Thanks for informing us of the facts, Panther. Happy new year to you too.

Lucky you have Australia to come home to, no? I'd be leaving the joint too.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 3:34pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 1:32pm:

Yes....I agree with you Greggy.....but it seems Karnal is confused.....If you would glean back through this thread, it was Karnal that first brought up dismissals, & I responded in #17 accordingly.....to his reference to dismissals

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 4:04pm

At least Trump's one-up on Putin with a blank record, never convicted. Great!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 4:13pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 3:25pm:

Panther wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 2:06pm:

Now Karnal, please consider yourself informed of the facts......

The judge gave President Trump the option.....Judge Merchan said Trump has the option of attending the hearing at the courthouse in downtown Manhattan or participating via an online video link

You seemed to start off contrite, & rightfully so, but then it's obvious all hell broke loose within your make believe little world......all your cheese completely slid of yer cracker fella!!!!!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 4:31pm

'Judge Merchan said Trump has the option of attending the hearing at the courthouse in downtown Manhattan or participating via an online video link'.

"When the People fear government there is Tyranny;
When government fears the People there is Freedom & Liberty!"
--
"Hey judge feller, I'm not going to your cosy fake witch hunt...

oh, oh , I see... yes Sir Mr Judge Sir. Yes , I will. Sir".

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by lee on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 4:32pm

Panther wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 4:13pm:

So your DL's case has not been unconditionally dismissed at all.

So it was indeed you who brought up unconditional dismissal. And then you accuse panther of changing his mind. Unconditional discharge is indeed different.Maybe one day you will learn to tell the truth, not that I expect it. ;)

You are such a tosser.

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 1:58pm:

Oh, I see. You're after the judge's additional words, are you?

I'm afraid you'll have to read the article for that, Lee. I'd advise you to click on the link to Judge Merchan's ruling, it's all there.

And no it is not. The piece has been updated. ;)

I note AP uses the words "unconditional discharge".

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 4:51pm

The White House.

Prison Governor,
New York Pen.

Dear Sir,
Due to me being the greatest President you ever saw and a genius, you will pardon all the fine patriots wearing a red cap. We'll do greater than you could think,
Your President
DJ T
Felon, convicted, no jail time. Fake felony and I won a landslide.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 5:27pm

Panther wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 4:13pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 3:25pm:

Panther wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 2:06pm:

Now Karnal, please consider yourself informed of the facts......

Thanks for the correction, Panther. So your DL's case has not been unconditionally dismissed at all. His conviction on 34 felonies stands. He now faces sentencing on Jan 10, where we'll all get to hear his crimes, their seriousness, and the sentence he would have received if he didn't get elected as your POTUS.

You're right. This is indeed a great day. President Elect Donald John Trump does not get to evade justice in the state of New York. He will be forced to attend court and stand silent as his sentence is heard, recorded and remembered. His face will be filmed for the duration of sentencing. The fake news will record his perp walk to his black SUV afterwards.

If your DL chooses to disobey New York law and not attend, a warrant will be issued for his arrest on Jan 28, 2028.

This is the law, exactly what you have been cherishing on our board for as long as you have been a member. If I recall, your position has been as follow

Then you changed your mind, as people do. Okay, you said, you might support someone being investigated, that's just allegations. But you would never support anyone with indictments before a court, or courts, of law. That was your red line. People can say all sorts of things, but indicted by the courts? Hell would have to have penguins swimming around and polar bears.

Next, you changed again, do you remember? Actually, you said, you might be inclined to support a politician with indictments, depending on the circumstances but never someone with a conviction, made by a jury of his/her peers. That would be unconscionable and beyond reproach. Not on your watch, you said, not in America. Hell would have to Eskimos living in igloos and fishing through the ice.

Now? You support a criminal convicted on 34 felonies, multiple civil rulings for bank, business, charity fraud, sexual assault, banned from doing business in New York and an additional three criminal indictments, one for preventing the peaceful transfer of power, facing the rest of his life in jail.

Thanks for informing us of the facts, Panther. Happy new year to you too.

Lucky you have Australia to come home to, no? I'd be leaving the joint too.

Oh my, you're right, Panther. I lied.

The big fella can do his hissy fit afterwards via a press conference at Mar a Lago.

There. Now that we've gotten that one off our chests, a question if I may.

What made you change your position on criminally convicted presidents?

Cheers.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 5:34pm

lee wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 4:32pm:

Panther wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 4:13pm:

So your DL's case has not been unconditionally dismissed at all.

And no it is not. The piece has been updated. ;)

I note AP uses the words "unconditional discharge".

Updated, was it?

Strange. I quoted the article here, dear. Which words were updated?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 5:48pm

Panther wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 3:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 1:32pm:

You responded by saying that you assume judges have the authority to automatically dismiss a conviction by a jury of one's peers.

Panther wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:37am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:18am:

Panther wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 10:55am:

..

Judge orders Trump sentencing in New York on Jan. 10

Source: Washington Post
Quote:

Nope, & being the sentencing on the charges rests with New York State, one would conclude the ability to 'unconditionally dismiss' is their prerogative as well.

Happy New Year ;)
[/quote]

So I'm curious. What's your Constitutional position on having a jury conviction dismissed based solely on a defendant's election to office?

Judge Merchan has written an 18 page ruling on the matter. Do you contest it?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 5:51pm

'Jury Exclusion of People with Felony Convictions by State.
New York. Excluded forever.'

Trump is unacceptable to answer honestly in a jury. He could get Musk to sit in for him or swear the oath on Jan 20, unless Trumps sweeps in with his gunmen on Jan6 game over.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 6:03pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 5:27pm:

Panther wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 4:13pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 3:25pm:

Panther wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 2:06pm:

Now Karnal, please consider yourself informed of the facts......

Thanks for the correction, Panther. So your DL's case has not been unconditionally dismissed at all. His conviction on 34 felonies stands. He now faces sentencing on Jan 10, where we'll all get to hear his crimes, their seriousness, and the sentence he would have received if he didn't get elected as your POTUS.

You're right. This is indeed a great day. President Elect Donald John Trump does not get to evade justice in the state of New York. He will be forced to attend court and stand silent as his sentence is heard, recorded and remembered. His face will be filmed for the duration of sentencing. The fake news will record his perp walk to his black SUV afterwards.

This is the law, exactly what you have been cherishing on our board for as long as you have been a member. If I recall, your position has been as follow

Then you changed your mind, as people do. Okay, you said, you might support someone being investigated, that's just allegations. But you would never support anyone with indictments before a court, or courts, of law. That was your red line. People can say all sorts of things, but indicted by the courts? Hell would have to have penguins swimming around and polar bears.

Next, you changed again, do you remember? Actually, you said, you might be inclined to support a politician with indictments, depending on the circumstances but never someone with a conviction, made by a jury of his/her peers. That would be unconscionable and beyond reproach. Not on your watch, you said, not in America. Hell would have to Eskimos living in igloos and fishing through the ice.

Now? You support a criminal convicted on 34 felonies, multiple civil rulings for bank, business, charity fraud, sexual assault, banned from doing business in New York and an additional three criminal indictments, one for preventing the peaceful transfer of power, facing the rest of his life in jail.

Thanks for informing us of the facts, Panther. Happy new year to you too.

Lucky you have Australia to come home to, no? I'd be leaving the joint too.

Another impudent lie....take your faux questions, cheers, & lies, & ram them all sideways up your man hungry, scum dripping ass Karnal!!!

.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by lee on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 6:20pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 5:34pm:

Updated, was it?

Strange. I quoted the article here, dear. Which words were updated?

Well since you haven't clarified I used -

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/01/03/trump-new-york-hush-money-conviction-sentence/

If that's wrong give us the right one. ;)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 6:29pm

lee lives in a rabbit warren and runs in circles up down sideways, one jump ahead.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 6:53pm

Quote:

Another impudent lie....take your faux questions, cheers, & lies, & ram them all sideways up your man hungry, scum dripping ass Karnal!!!

I see. So help me to get this right, Panther. Are you now saying you never said you would abandon all support for your Dear Leader should he be indicted by a crime or crimes by a judge/judges to stand before a jury of his peers?

That's quite a claim. If you are now recanting this, what did you mean by hell freezing over first?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 6:56pm

lee wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 6:20pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 5:34pm:

Updated, was it?

Strange. I quoted the article here, dear. Which words were updated?

Well since you haven't clarified I used -

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/01/03/trump-new-york-hush-money-conviction-sentence/

If that's wrong give us the right one. ;)

No no, same headline, same photo, same words. Which words were updated, Lee?

We'll get to the bottom of this once and for all.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 6:58pm

chimera wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 6:29pm:

lee lives in a rabbit warren and runs in circles up down sideways, one jump ahead.

Perhaps, but Lee doesn't get News Ltd over in Western Australia, you see.

Not sure how he gets different versions of the Washington Post. Perhaps their internet has improved.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by lee on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 6:58pm

The sum total of what appears on my screen -

"President-elect Donald Trump will be sentenced on 34 counts of falsifying business records ahead of his swearing-in Jan. 20 but is not expected to face jail time, a judge ruled Friday.

The decision to uphold Trump’s conviction and schedule the sentencing for Jan. 10 almost certainly means Trump will be the first felon to serve as a U.S. president."

Updated
January 3, 2025 at 9:47 p.m. ESTtoday at 9:47 p.m. EST

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Dnarever on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 7:52pm

lee wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 6:58pm:

Yes that is correct. The bit at the end of the ruling also said that this finalisation leaves Trump in the position that he can appeal the convictions.

They think he will appeal the convictions but that could be a double edged sword as if he were to lose the appeal as he should that court could rule that this penalty is insufficient and give him a proper penalty.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 8:02pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 7:52pm:

lee wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 6:58pm:

An appeal could backfire spectacularly.

At the end of his second (and last}, term he could find himself going to prison at the age of 82.

I'm sure his lawyers are advising him to shut up and just accept the sentencing, and I'm sure some of those lawyers will be:

a) ignored

b) sacked

c) never paid

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 8:29pm

lee wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 6:58pm:

Yes, and which part was updated?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Dnarever on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 8:46pm

lee wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 6:58pm:

Quote:

Trump will be the first felon to serve as a U.S. president.

Yes the First Felon, Insurrectionist, twice impeached, sexual assaulter, with multiple bankruptcies, disqualified, fraudster, illegitimate President.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Frank on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 9:04pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 8:46pm:

lee wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 6:58pm:

Quote:

Trump will be the first felon to serve as a U.S. president.

Yes the First Felon, Insurrectionist, twice impeached, sexual assaulter, with multiple bankruptcies, disqualified, fraudster, illegitimate President.

And that for nuffin' ... :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by lee on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 12:51pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 8:29pm:

Yes, and which part was updated?

What was deleted? ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by lee on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 12:53pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 8:46pm:

Yes the First Felon, Insurrectionist, twice impeached, sexual assaulter, with multiple bankruptcies, disqualified, fraudster, illegitimate President.

You mean he's a bastard? I didn't know that was a disqualifiable occurrence. ;)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 1:59pm

lee wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 12:51pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 8:29pm:

Yes, and which part was updated?

What was deleted? ::)

What was? Did the update go missing? Did he say NO deletion? To what? Which was that and you wrote it when?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by lee on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 2:02pm

chimera wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 1:59pm:

What was? Did the update go missing? Did he say NO deletion? To what? Which was that and you wrote it when?

He originally posted what was the alleged, something less than the full report, and the link he posted and directed me to, doesn't now show that. Exactly what are you protesting? ::)

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 1:58pm:

I'm afraid you'll have to read the article for that, Lee. I'd advise you to click on the link to Judge Merchan's ruling, it's all there.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 4:01pm

Who protests less than what? It's alleged less than reported, or more, exactly what was said to be deleted. Originally, it wasn't and later updates went back. Some didn't. Why?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by lee on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 6:35pm

chimera wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 4:01pm:

Who protests less than what? It's alleged less than reported, or more, exactly what was said to be deleted. Originally, it wasn't and later updates went back. Some didn't. Why?

Answer your own conundrum. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 7:17pm

chimera wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 1:59pm:

lee wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 12:51pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 8:29pm:

Yes, and which part was updated?

What was deleted? ::)

What was? Did the update go missing? Did he say NO deletion? To what? Which was that and you wrote it when?

Why won't you say?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Frank on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 8:06pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 7:17pm:

chimera wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 1:59pm:

lee wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 12:51pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 8:29pm:

Yes, and which part was updated?

What was deleted? ::)

What was? Did the update go missing? Did he say NO deletion? To what? Which was that and you wrote it when?

Why won't you say?

What sort of shifty, dirty work have you done now at the cross roads, son of Lahore?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Frank on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 8:16pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:18am:

Panther wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 10:55am:

..

Judge orders Trump sentencing in New York on Jan. 10

Source: Washington Post
Quote:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/03/trump-hush-money-trial-sentencing

But I'm curious. I believe your previous take on doing crime involved doing time. What does your much beloved Constitution have to say about sentencing criminals for felonies?

Does it stipulate anything about unconditional dismissals?

Cheers. [/quote]

https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-trumps-hush-money-case-expected-sentence-unconditional/story?id=116706931

Search all cases and statutes...
Statutes, codes, and regulations
Consolidated Laws of New York
•••
Article 65 - SENTENCES OF PROBATION, CONDITIONAL DISCHARGE AND UNCONDITIONAL DISCHARGE
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20
Current through 2024 NY Law Chapter 678
Section 65.20 - Sentence of unconditional discharge
1. Criteria. The court may impose a sentence of unconditional discharge in any case where it is authorized to impose a sentence of conditional discharge under section 65.05 if the court is of the opinion that no proper purpose would be served by imposing any condition upon the defendant's release.
When a sentence of unconditional discharge is imposed for a felony, the court shall set forth in the record the reasons for its action.

2. Sentence. When the court imposes a sentence of unconditional discharge, the defendant shall be released with respect to the conviction for which the sentence is imposed without imprisonment, fine or probation supervision. A sentence of unconditional discharge is for all purposes a final judgment of conviction.
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 8:33pm

Trump can look Xi in the face and talk about the UN Law of the Sea and China's crimes in the South China Sea. As one convict to another.
(see ' Port Jackson 1788. First Fleet')

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Dnarever on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 8:35pm

I remember when the right claimed to be tough on crime, Now they follow a criminal.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 8:02am

The Inland Revenue may have problems with dodgy tax returns to MAGA.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 12:52pm

lee wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 12:51pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 8:29pm:

Yes, and which part was updated?

What was deleted? ::)

Exactly. Which part did you observe deleted, through your research on the matter? This appears to be central to your argument.

Kindly quote all changes made please, Lee.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 12:54pm

Frank wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 8:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:18am:

Panther wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 10:55am:

..

Judge orders Trump sentencing in New York on Jan. 10

Source: Washington Post
Quote:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-trumps-hush-money-case-expected-sentence-unconditional/story?id=116706931

Search all cases and statutes...
Statutes, codes, and regulations
Consolidated Laws of New York
•••
Article 65 - SENTENCES OF PROBATION, CONDITIONAL DISCHARGE AND UNCONDITIONAL DISCHARGE
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20
Current through 2024 NY Law Chapter 678
Section 65.20 - Sentence of unconditional discharge
1. Criteria. The court may impose a sentence of unconditional discharge in any case where it is authorized to impose a sentence of conditional discharge under section 65.05 if the court is of the opinion that no proper purpose would be served by imposing any condition upon the defendant's release.
When a sentence of unconditional discharge is imposed for a felony, the court shall set forth in the record the reasons for its action.

2. Sentence. When the court imposes a sentence of unconditional discharge, the defendant shall be released with respect to the conviction for which the sentence is imposed without imprisonment, fine or probation supervision. A sentence of unconditional discharge is for all purposes a final judgment of conviction.
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20

[/quote]

Thanks, dear boy. Now show us where it states that judges may dismiss all charges against a convicted felon, found guilty by a jury of his/her peers.

Panther appears to have disappeared - poof!

He must have more pressing business, no?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Frank on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 1:01pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 12:54pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 8:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:18am:

Panther wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 10:55am:

..

Judge orders Trump sentencing in New York on Jan. 10

Source: Washington Post
Quote:

Thanks, dear boy. Now show us where it states that judges may dismiss all charges against a convicted felon, found guilty by a jury of his/her peers.

Panther appears to have disappeared - poof!

He must have more pressing business, no? [/quote]
It is in his Wahingtom Post quote, embedded above.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 1:45pm

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 1:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 12:54pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 8:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:18am:

Panther wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 10:55am:

..

Judge orders Trump sentencing in New York on Jan. 10

Source: Washington Post
Quote:

It is in his Wahingtom Post quote, embedded above.

[/quote]

Oh look, after five pages, the old boy's gone back to Panther's original claim - the one he's retracted.

How cute. Get yourselves ready, leftards, it's going to be a fun few years.

What a swell party it is, no?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Bobby. on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 1:47pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 1:45pm:

Oh look, after five pages, the old boy's gone back to Panther's original claim - the one he's retracted.

How cute. Get yourselves ready, leftards, it's going to be a fun few years.

What a swell party it is, no?

Karnal,

So Trump won't get away with it huh?
How many times has he heard that from dumb coppers he couldn't count.

You still say it?

You'd give your left eye to nail Trump wouldn't you? You can see the headlines can't you?
'Local Ozpolitian puts Trump behind bars'.
Your picture'd be in all the papers. You might even get to tell on the newsreels how you pulled if off, yeah.

Listen you hicks, Trump was too much for any big city police force to handle.
They tried but they couldn't -
It took the United States Government to pin a rap on him.
Yeah and they won't make it stick.

Why you hicks, Trump will be back pulling strings to get guys elected mayor and
governor before any of you ever get a ten buck raise.
Yeah - how many of those guys in office owe everything to Trump?
he made them -
yeah he made them just like a tailor makes a suit of clothes -
He takes a nobody see - teaches him what to say - get his name in the paper -
pay for his campaign expenses -
dish out a lot of groceries and coal -
gets his boys to bring the voters out -
and then count the votes over and over again till they added up right and he was elected.
And what happened - did he remember when the going got tough -
when the heat was on - no he didn't wanna -
all he wanted was to save his own dirty neck -

public enemy they call him -
Trump who gave him his public all wrapped up with a fancy bow on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACTkVM6t_bo

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 1:50pm

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 1:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 12:54pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 8:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:18am:

Panther wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 10:55am:

..

Judge orders Trump sentencing in New York on Jan. 10

Source: Washington Post
Quote:

It is in his Wahingtom Post quote, embedded above.

[/quote]

No, it's not.

Absolutely nothing there about dismissing the charges.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Frank on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:16pm

Search all cases and statutes...
Statutes, codes, and regulations
Consolidated Laws of New York
•••
Article 65 - SENTENCES OF PROBATION, CONDITIONAL DISCHARGE AND UNCONDITIONAL DISCHARGE
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20
Current through 2024 NY Law Chapter 678
Section 65.20 - Sentence of unconditional discharge
1. Criteria. The court may impose a sentence of unconditional discharge in any case where it is authorized to impose a sentence of conditional discharge under section 65.05 if the court is of the opinion that no proper purpose would be served by imposing any condition upon the defendant's release.
When a sentence of unconditional discharge is imposed for a felony, the court shall set forth in the record the reasons for its action.

2. Sentence. When the court imposes a sentence of unconditional discharge, the defendant shall be released with respect to the conviction for which the sentence is imposed without imprisonment, fine or probation supervision. A sentence of unconditional discharge is for all purposes a final judgment of conviction.
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20

It is a sneaky little Democrat game play of Lawfare, demonstrating once again that THE PROCESS IS THE PUNISHMENT. Unconditional discharge = No punishments will be imposed = lawfare.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:24pm

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:16pm:

Nothing about dismissing the charges though.

He will remain a convicted criminal for the rest of his life, despite the sentencing unconditional discharge.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Frank on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:24pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:16pm:

Nothing about dismissing the charges though.

He will remain a convicted criminal for the rest of his life, despite the sentencing unconditional discharge.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:06pm

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:24pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:16pm:

Nothing about dismissing the charges though.

He will remain a convicted criminal for the rest of his life, despite the sentencing unconditional discharge.

Nothing political about it whatsoever.

He broke the law, was caught, and was subsequently charged and convicted.

If he's ever remembered, it will be for being a convicted criminal (and a rapist, of course).

Don't break the law 34 times, and you won't be hauled in front of a jury.

It's that simple.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Frank on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:26pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:06pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:24pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:16pm:

Nothing about dismissing the charges though.

He will remain a convicted criminal for the rest of his life, despite the sentencing unconditional discharge.

If it was true they would punish him.

But the process was the punishment. The charges were trumped up, the trial was a sham.

Same with the rape - if he was a rapist they should charge him. But they won't because its all made up political lies.
Ditto with the impeachments. Ditto with the charades with Biden as a mentally fully functional prez or Harris as a worthy contender. Colossal lies, cheating, deformed, spineless mendacity. Thed blowtorch should be applied to their collective bellies.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:41pm

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:06pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:24pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:16pm:

Nothing about dismissing the charges though.

He will remain a convicted criminal for the rest of his life, despite the sentencing unconditional discharge.

If it was true ...

Oh, but it is true.

It's an indisputable fact.

He broke the law 34 times, was charged, and subsequently convicted by a jury.

Are you suggesting that the jury was in on this conspiracy theory of yours?

Seriously?

Sleepy Joe is so useless that he can't even tie his own shoelaces, and yet he was able to plan this conspiracy that involved the complete cooperation by all 12 jurors - the 12 jurors that Donald Trump himself chose?

Oh, Franky boy - you really need to put down that bottle.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Frank on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:46pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:41pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:06pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:24pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:16pm:

Nothing about dismissing the charges though.

He will remain a convicted criminal for the rest of his life, despite the sentencing unconditional discharge.

Oh, but it is true.

It's an indisputable fact.

So why don't they charge him with rape and punish him for fraud?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 4:43pm

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:41pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:06pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:24pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:16pm:

Nothing about dismissing the charges though.

He will remain a convicted criminal for the rest of his life, despite the sentencing unconditional discharge.

Oh, but it is true.

It's an indisputable fact.

So why don't they charge him with rape and punish him for fraud?

You know why, old boy.

Trump is a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist.

Those facts we know.

What we don't know is why you defend rapists and convicted felons.

Are you a rapist too, old boy?

In a New York Magazine article published in June 2019, Carroll claimed the event occurred "in the fall of 1995 or the spring of 1996" - more than twenty years prior.

She claimed she did not report the event to the police.

At the time, the criminal statute of limitations on such accusations was five years.

If New York's authorities were not aware of it, that explains why Trump wasn't charged at the time or within the five years before the allegation became time-barred.

In June 2006 New York changed the law but the change did not retroactively apply to alleged crimes committed before 2006.

Carroll could make a civil claim because of the Adult Survivor's Act which amended the civil statute of limitations to allow "alleged victims of sexual offenses such as sexual assault and unwanted sexual contact in the workplace to file civil suits between November 24, 2022, and November 24, 2023"

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Frank on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 5:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 4:43pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:41pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:06pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:24pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:16pm:

Nothing about dismissing the charges though.

He will remain a convicted criminal for the rest of his life, despite the sentencing unconditional discharge.

Oh, but it is true.

It's an indisputable fact.

So why don't they charge him with rape and punish him for fraud?

Bollocks.

Why didn't she report it within 5 years of it allegedly happening?
Why wait until he is prez and she has a book to flog?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 5:34pm

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:06pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:24pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:16pm:

Nothing about dismissing the charges though.

He will remain a convicted criminal for the rest of his life, despite the sentencing unconditional discharge.

No, dear. Your DL had his day in court and his jury of his peers.

Aquascoot wanted Oprah, Lady Gaga and Justin Bieber on the jury. I believe they were busy.

Besides, isn't Justin Canadian?

LAWFARE !!!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 5:50pm

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 5:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 4:43pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:41pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:06pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:24pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:16pm:

Nothing about dismissing the charges though.

He will remain a convicted criminal for the rest of his life, despite the sentencing unconditional discharge.

Oh, but it is true.

It's an indisputable fact.

So why don't they charge him with rape and punish him for fraud?

Bollocks.

Why didn't she report it within 5 years of it allegedly happening?

Not allegedly - it did happen. He raped her.

Donald Trump is a rapist.

That fact will never be erased from history.

And the reason why so many women take years to report sexual assault (or never report it at all) is because of "people" like you - lowlife scumbags who always take the rapists' side and always say the woman is lying (unless the rapist is tinted, of course).

But once again, you already knew that.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by aquascoot on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 6:07pm

lawfare was a large part of why trump won the election

he wears these charges as a badge of honour.

its like saying clauss von staufenberg was a convicted felon :D :D

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:00pm

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 5:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 4:43pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:41pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:06pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:24pm:

[quote author=Frank link=1735952150/64#64 date=1736137011]Search all cases and statutes...
Statutes, codes, and regulations
Consolidated Laws of New York
•••
Article 65 - SENTENCES OF PROBATION, CONDITIONAL DISCHARGE AND UNCONDITIONAL DISCHARGE
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20
Current through 2024 NY Law Chapter 678
Section 65.20 - Sentence of unconditional discharge
1. Criteria. The court may impose a sentence of unconditional discharge in any case where it is authorized to impose a sentence of conditional discharge under section 65.05 if the court is of the opinion that no proper purpose would be served by imposing any condition upon the defendant's release.
When a sentence of unconditional discharge is imposed for a felony, the court shall set forth in the record the reasons for its action.

2. Sentence. When the court imposes a sentence of unconditional discharge, the defendant shall be released with respect to the conviction for which the sentence is imposed without imprisonment, fine or probation supervision. A sentence of unconditional discharge is for all purposes a final judgment of conviction.
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20

It is a sneaky little Democrat game play of Lawfare, demonstrating once again that THE PROCESS IS THE PUNISHMENT. Unconditional discharge = No punishments will be imposed = lawfare.

Nothing about dismissing the charges though.

He will remain a convicted criminal for the rest of his life, despite the sentencing unconditional discharge.

Demonstrating once again that THE PROCESS WAS THE PUNISHMENT. Unconditional discharge = No punishments will be imposed = lawfare.

Despicable politicization of the legal system by the Dems, the people after your own black, creepy heart.

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If he's ever remembered, it will be for being a convicted criminal (and a rapist, of course).

Don't break the law 34 times, and you won't be hauled in front of a jury.

It's that simple.

Oh, but it is true.

It's an indisputable fact.

So why don't they charge him with rape and punish him for fraud?

Bollocks.

Why didn't she report it within 5 years of it allegedly happening?
Why wait until he is prez and she has a book to flog?

Because he was prez and she had a book to flog, you silly old fool. Freeeeeedom, innit.

DL said she lied, she sued him for defamation and gave him the chance to prove her wrong.

You bet I will, he said. I'll testify and win, you'll see.

He failed at the first deposition. It went something like this:

I've never met the woman!

Yes, but how can you be sure? I'm sure a celebrity like you meets all sorts of people.

I'd know. She's not my type.

Oh? We're showing the defendant exhibit E, a photo of some B grade gala "event". The defendant is in the foreground, next to an unidentified woman. Now, would you care to explain who the person standing next to you in the photo is?

Er - hmm. I appear to have left my glasses at home.

Take your time.

Her? That's my wife - my lovely second wife Marla. A real hornbag, believe me.

Are you sure of that?

Yes.

Let the record show the defendant has identified E Jean Carroll.

Er...

No further questions. Interview terminated at 14,36.

He failed to testify, as you'd imagine.

WITCH HUNT !!!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:01pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 6:07pm:

lawfare was a large part of why trump won the election

Raping women and breaking the law is a large part of why he's an adjudicated rapist and convicted felon.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:04pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:00pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 5:23pm:

Bollocks.

Why didn't she report it within 5 years of it allegedly happening?
Why wait until he is prez and she has a book to flog?

Lol ;D

This is where Frank says "Bullocks", and then we show him the video.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Bobby. on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:04pm

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/how-donald-trump-can-make-history-win-3-nobel-peace-prizes

Published January 3, 2025

How Donald Trump can make history and win 3 Nobel Peace Prizes

Trump can earn Nobel Prizes by fixing crises in Europe and Mideast,
as well as securing a nuclear treaty.

President-elect Donald Trump, with a policy of peace through strength and a Republican Senate behind him, will be the first United States president in decades who is positioned to resolve three major world crises, persuade the Senate to ratify major new treaties and garner three Nobel Peace Prizes, while saving the United States treasury over a trillion dollars.

Trump can do this by addressing the deepest and most dangerous cause of global instability – nuclear weapons. In 1990, in his first interview about running for president, Donald Trump articulated the challenge. "I’ve always thought about the issue of nuclear war; it’s a very important element in my thought process. It’s the ultimate, the ultimate catastrophe, the biggest problem this world has, and nobody’s focusing on the nuts and bolts of it. It’s a little like sickness. People don’t believe they’re going to get sick until they do. Nobody wants to talk about it. I believe the greatest of all stupidities is people’s believing it will never happen, because everybody knows how destructive it will be, so nobody uses [nuclear] weapons. What bulls**t."

Trump’s focus on nuclear "nuts and bolts" is exactly the path to major breakthroughs in world peace. Nuclear weapons are at the core of the world’s most dangerous conflicts. The scientific side of nuclear arms control is part of my own expertise; I and others have contributed to advances in technical methods for the United States, Russia and other nations to verify one another’s nuclear disarmament without revealing any information or having to trust one another.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:06pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 6:07pm:

lawfare was a large part of why trump won the election

he wears these charges as a badge of honour.

its like saying clauss von staufenberg was a convicted felon :D :D

Oh, I see. Is that why he's asked his lawyers to demand his conviction be dismissed?

Come come. Ask Panther to explain the difference between an unconditional discharge and a full dismissal.

You know, when he re-appears - poof! Like a genie

Yes, Master...

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:07pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:04pm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tq3rh6bh_8

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:08pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:04pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:00pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 5:23pm:

Bollocks.

Why didn't she report it within 5 years of it allegedly happening?
Why wait until he is prez and she has a book to flog?

Lol ;D

This is where Frank says "Bullocks", and then we show him the video.

Just so. Then he shifts threads and starts lying in the next one.

It's going to be a long four years, no?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Dnarever on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:10pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:04pm:

Hey Bobby - You see that Trump has picked yet another billionaire who has been a leader of the swamp for 20 years for his team ?

He sure sold you a harbour bridge.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Bobby. on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:10pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:08pm:

Just so. Then he shifts threads and starts lying in the next one.

It's going to be a long four years, no?

How Donald Trump can make history and win 3 Nobel Peace Prizes

Trump can earn Nobel Prizes by fixing crises in Europe and Mideast,
as well as securing a nuclear treaty.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Bobby. on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:11pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:10pm:

Hey Bobby - You see that Trump has picked yet another billionaire who has been a leader of the swamp for 20 years for his team ?

He sure sold you a harbour bridge.

Only Trump can save us all from dying in WW3.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:12pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:04pm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tq3rh6bh_8

Yes, but it's very blurry, Greggery.

He hates wearing his glasses, you see. Whenever he trips over his pre-written rally adlibs, he blames the autocue company.

CEASE AND DESIST !!!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:34pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:04pm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tq3rh6bh_8

Yes, but it's very blurry, Greggery.

He hates wearing his glasses, you see. Whenever he trips over his pre-written rally adlibs, he blames the autocue company.

CEASE AND DESIST !!!

Not his type.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Bobby. on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:42pm

Trump to win 3 Nobel Peace Prizes.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by aquascoot on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:55pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:01pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 6:07pm:

lawfare was a large part of why trump won the election

Raping women and breaking the law is a large part of why he's an adjudicated rapist and convicted felon.

that just adds to his sex appeal

women love a bad boy

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 8:26pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:01pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 6:07pm:

lawfare was a large part of why trump won the election

Raping women and breaking the law is a large part of why he's an adjudicated rapist and convicted felon.

that just adds to his sex appeal

women love a bad boy

The only way he gets women is with money or force.

That's not an alpha male - that's a loser.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 10:19pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:01pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 6:07pm:

lawfare was a large part of why trump won the election

Raping women and breaking the law is a large part of why he's an adjudicated rapist and convicted felon.

that just adds to his sex appeal

women love a bad boy

Not you though, eh?

Bloated, obese and totally unfit to govern.

Lucky the chodes have you to throw out a rope, Aquascoot.

Just think, they could have had the "noble Ron".

Oh well. Come back in 2028, leftards. By then, Donnie should be suitably martyred and working out in Fort Buttner Correctional.

Learn a new language, take up the violin, recite the Holy Quran or select a healthy new recipe from Nigella.

No more voting for you.

WITCH HUNT !!!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Frank on Jan 7^th, 2025 at 11:30am

Karnal wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 10:19pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:01pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 6:07pm:

lawfare was a large part of why trump won the election

Raping women and breaking the law is a large part of why he's an adjudicated rapist and convicted felon.

that just adds to his sex appeal

women love a bad boy

Push off, Syd, silly old logorrhoeac poseur.
You are talking stupid paki gibberish again.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Dnarever on Jan 7^th, 2025 at 12:03pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:11pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:10pm:

Hey Bobby - You see that Trump has picked yet another billionaire who has been a leader of the swamp for 20 years for his team ?

He sure sold you a harbour bridge.

Only Trump can save us all from dying in WW3.

Got an Opera house with white sails on the market real cheap if you are interested ?

Trump hasn't even reached office yet and he has already threatened to invade 3 countries.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 7^th, 2025 at 1:42pm

Frank wrote on Jan 7^th, 2025 at 11:30am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 10:19pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:01pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 6:07pm:

lawfare was a large part of why trump won the election

Raping women and breaking the law is a large part of why he's an adjudicated rapist and convicted felon.

that just adds to his sex appeal

women love a bad boy

Push off, Syd, silly old logorrhoeac poseur.
You are talking stupid paki gibberish again.

Back to where you came from, wog. You don't even get a vote. You flew here.

That just adds to your sex appeal, no?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Frank on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 7:14pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:00pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 5:23pm:

Why didn't she report it within 5 years of it allegedly happening?
Why wait until he is prez and she has a book to flog?

Because he was prez and she had a book to flog, you silly old fool. Freeeeeedom, innit.

Exactly.

You know it, I know it, everyone knows it.

If you are REALLY raped you do not wait for a commercial and political opportunity to complain about it.

If you are REALLY raped, it is not a political or commercial event for you.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Dnarever on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 7:17pm

Supreme court says convict Trump is a criminal give him the sentence.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 9:29pm

Frank wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 7:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:00pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 5:23pm:

Why didn't she report it within 5 years of it allegedly happening?
Why wait until he is prez and she has a book to flog?

Because he was prez and she had a book to flog, you silly old fool. Freeeeeedom, innit.

My condolences, dear boy. We're sorry for your loss.

There there.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Bobby. on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 9:34pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 7^th, 2025 at 12:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:11pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 7:10pm:

Hey Bobby - You see that Trump has picked yet another billionaire who has been a leader of the swamp for 20 years for his team ?

He sure sold you a harbour bridge.

Only Trump can save us all from dying in WW3.

Got an Opera house with white sails on the market real cheap if you are interested ?

Trump hasn't even reached office yet and he has already threatened to invade 3 countries.

Trump will also have his vengeance.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by lee on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 11:48pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 7^th, 2025 at 12:03pm:

Trump hasn't even reached office yet and he has already threatened to invade 3 countries.

Which ones. Be specific. ;)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 7:35am

lee wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 11:48pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 7^th, 2025 at 12:03pm:

Trump hasn't even reached office yet and he has already threatened to invade 3 countries.

Which ones. Be specific. ;)

Greenland, Panama and the Middle East (a region, not a country).

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 7:40am

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 7:17pm:

Supreme court says convict Trump is a criminal give him the sentence.

Indeed they did.

Donald Trump will enter the White House as a felon.

Donald Trump was sentenced without penalty in the New York hush money case Friday after a symbolic – and historic and unprecedented – hearing following the first felony conviction of a former and soon-to-be sitting president.

Judge Juan Merchan spoke to Trump for several minutes, telling the president-elect that it was the office of the presidency – and not the occupant – that was afforded extraordinary legal protections requiring him to impose a sentence of unconditional discharge without any punishment.

Trump was convicted in May on 34 counts of falsifying business records. While he has vowed to keep fighting the conviction through the appeals courts, Friday’s sentencing cements the fact that Trump will be the first convicted felon to become president 10 days from now.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by John Smith on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 9:10am

so much for justice being blind ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 9:26am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 7:40am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 7:17pm:

Supreme court says convict Trump is a criminal give him the sentence.

america is famous for crime

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 9:32am

Trumpy should have done jail time. Now he knows he can get away with anything—neither the House nor Senate will impeach him and he can thumb his nose at the criminal system. What a thing to tell an opportunistic sleazebag like Trumpy! Geez!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 10:13am

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Aussie on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 11:07am

You can imagine the headlines around the World on Jan 21. "Criminal inaugurated as President of the United States of America."

Will Countries not allow the scum to enter, given his status as a criminal. After all, Trunp himself rales about criminals from the north and south entering the USA.

bugger him. I hope Australia tells him to far cough. "Send your VP, he is not a criminal, convicted on 34 felony counts, a criminal who, but for the fact he is President Elect, would have been sentenced to prison."

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 11:10am

Panther wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 10:13am:

Hi Panther, what happened to your unconditional dismissal?

Your DL's just been sentenced for 34 felonies. He's banned from owning a gun, unfit to hold a liquor or casino license, has to hand over his DNA, it's TERRIBLE. He can't even drive to Canada without filling in lots of forms.

Didn't you say he was going to get off? How does that square with your so-called law and order stance?

You said you'd never support a prez who's merely been indicted. What made you change your mind?

Cheers.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 11:20am

Aussie wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 11:07am:

Not a good look, is it?

Just imagine, all those law and order voters, tough on crime, wanting everybody locked up and SENT BACK.

Turns out it was all a ruse. They knowingly supported a criminal all along.

So now we know, Aussie. Next time they say oo - how very dare they, or ee - these people need to be locked up, or arrgh - ban them kill them cesterete them, we'll know. They're just having a laugh.

Whenever they start frothing and nashing over this or that - rape, murder, using private email servers, etc - we can just ask this: do you now, or have you ever worshiped the felon known as DJ Trump?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 11:24am

Aussie wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 11:07am:

And an adjudicated rapist - let's never forget the fact that he is a violent sexual predator.

Sixteen countries, including the United States, don't allow foreigners with felony convictions to enter the country, and another 22 have laws that allow them to kick out any visitors once their record is discovered, even though they don't actively screen criminal records at points of entry.

Countries that may pose an issue for Trump to visit in his next term include Canada, which is set to host next year’s G7 summit, and Israel, Japan, the U.K., India, China and Argentina.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 11:29am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 11:24am:

Aussie wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 11:07am:

When America sends you it's presidents, they're not sending their best, they're not sending you, dear.

They're sending rapists, fraudsters, insurrectionists and some, I assume, are good people.

WE DON'T WANT THEM HERE !!!

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Frank on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 12:26pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 11:07am:

President Elect - No small matter.

More significant than the 34 trumped up charges.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 12:29pm

ANY evidence the charges were “trumped up” Franko?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 12:53pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 12:29pm:

ANY evidence the charges were “trumped up” Franko?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 2:02pm

..

January 20, 2025 President Donald John Trump rolls onto Jan6 Pardons!......

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 2:22pm

::) ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 2:23pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 11:29am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 11:24am:

Aussie wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 11:07am:

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 2:45pm

Panther wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 2:02pm:

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January 20, 2025 President Donald John Trump rolls onto Jan6 Pardons!......

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Hi again, Panther.

You've always been a fan of the rule of law, so it makes perfect sense you'd support your president pardoning those convicted of rioting, assaulting police and invading your beloved Capitol.

But I'm curious. Didn't you want your DL to have all charges dismissed?

He's just been sentenced for 34 felonies. How does that square with your previous stance on law and order?

As a reminder, you said you would never support a prez who's merely been indicted. It would have to be a very cold day in hell for you to support that, you said. It will, quite simply, never ever happen.

To make your point, you used Georgia font, italicized and coloured red.

So, do you now support presidents who are found guilty by a jury of their peers, convicted and sentenced?

What made you change your mind on that?

If you don't want to answer this, just say why.

Cheers.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Frank on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 7:30pm

Cruel: Trump Sentenced To Drink Only Diet Pepsi

"This whole trial, like Diet Pepsi, is a disgrace and an affront to all that is right," Trump told reporters. "My entire life, I have been drinking Diet Coke, which, quite frankly, is God's drink. It's the greatest. Many people say so. So does Elon. You know Elon? We all love Elon, don't we, folks? He drinks Diet Coke. Very smart guy. Like me. Now, this corrupt judge sentences me to drink only Diet Pepsi? This is a perfect example of how far our nation has fallen. We will vigorously appeal this decision and save me from drinking Diet Pepsi just like we're going to save our great country."

Trump's attorney, Todd Blanche, reiterated the legal team's stance that the trial was unjust. "It's a clear case of judicial malpractice," he told reporters. "Even if you believe that Donald Trump is guilty of these scurrilous charges, sentencing a human being to be limited to drinking Diet Pepsi is beyond the pale. We will fight this sentence. No one deserves this."

At publishing time, Judge Merchan threatened to increase the punishment by forcing Trump to eat at Burger King.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 7:34pm

Frank wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 7:30pm:

Cruel: Trump Sentenced To Drink Only Diet Pepsi

No more Russian hooker pee?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by lee on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 7:38pm

Gweggy likes golden showers. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 7:39pm

Frank wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 7:30pm:

Cruel: Trump Sentenced To Drink Only Diet Pepsi

No more Russian hooker pee, or Putin/Musk jizz?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Dnarever on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 8:40pm

I guess this means that Trump is indeed a witch.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by aquascoot on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 8:46pm

trump loves these charges

its why he was elected

he didnt win over the intelligence services, the lawfare DA's, the uni professors, the beltway lobbyists, the government departments, he won only 6 % of the vote in the richest district of washington.

how did he win?

he won over the people ;D ;D ;D

and they see lawfare as the elites coming after the guy who stood up for them

trump played the lefties for the fools they are.

now all they get to do is whine and complain (and make crusty keyboards)

and as every schoolboy knows

"people who complain a lot are usually stupid " :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Dnarever on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 9:05pm

Frank wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 7:30pm:

Cruel: Trump Sentenced To Drink Only Diet Pepsi

Apparently his son snorts it. He claims it isn't coke anyway.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Dnarever on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 9:08pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 8:46pm:

Quote:

trump loves these charges

Probably the reason he spent over a million dollars failing in the supreme court.

Quote:

"people who complain a lot are usually stupid "

Trump has been complaining non stop for the last 4 years and he is real stupid so you may have a point.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by lee on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 9:30pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 9:05pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 7:30pm:

Cruel: Trump Sentenced To Drink Only Diet Pepsi

Apparently his son snorts it. He claims it isn't coke anyway.

I think the son you are thinking of is named Hunter Biden. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 1:44am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 8:46pm:

Strange. So why did Trump pay his lawyers to pester the judge to drop the charges?

Why did Merchan have to write a long-winded ruling about the illegality of judges overturning jury verdicts, citing case law and the Constitution?

Just having a laugh, was he?

I'm guessing you didn't donate to his legal fund.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by aquascoot on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 7:48am

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 1:44am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 8:46pm:

you are down a rabbit hole that 99.9 % of "real' americans will never go down.

they just see that trump got charged 34 times and they think thats the weaponisation of the judiciary and they think thats BS and so ANY legal sanctioning of trump makes him MORE popular.

but keep talking about it if you want

it only makes trumps stock go up :) :)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 8:05am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 7:48am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 1:44am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 8:46pm:

Exaggerate much?

Half of Americans agree with a Manhattan jury's verdict that Donald Trump was guilty of 34 felony charges related to falsifying business records to cover up an alleged affair with an adult film actress. Another 30% disagree, and 19% of Americans aren't sure.

A plurality of Americans, 50%, think former President Donald Trump's guilty verdict on all 34 counts in his hush money trial was correct, a new ABC News/Ipsos poll finds, and almost as many, 49%, think he should end his 2024 presidential campaign over the result.

The latest survey from Reuters/Ipsos, which began fielding following the announcement of a guilty verdict in the New York criminal trial against Donald Trump regarding hush money payments, shows that a majority of Americans believe the prosecution was about upholding the rule of law and not politically motivated.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by aquascoot on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 8:57am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 8:05am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 7:48am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 1:44am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 8:46pm:

;D ;D ;D ;D bullshit

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 9:12am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 8:57am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 8:05am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 7:48am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 1:44am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 8:46pm:

;D ;D ;D ;D bullshit

White flag accepted.

A majority of Americans believe the prosecution was about upholding the rule of law and not politically motivated.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Carl D on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 9:17am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 8:57am:

;D ;D ;D ;D bullshit

Care to tell us why?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 9:12am:

White flag accepted.

A majority of Americans believe the prosecution was about upholding the rule of law and not politically motivated.

I honestly believe aquascoot never clicks on any links and reads them.

He'll probably blame his phone, of course. ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Frank on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 10:12am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 8:05am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 7:48am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 1:44am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 8:46pm:

And so - they re-elected him.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Dnarever on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 11:09am

lee wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 9:30pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 9:05pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 7:30pm:

Cruel: Trump Sentenced To Drink Only Diet Pepsi

Apparently his son snorts it. He claims it isn't coke anyway.

I think the son you are thinking of is named Hunter Biden. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Do they look alike ?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Dnarever on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 11:12am

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 10:12am:

And so - they re-elected him.

Many already are sorry for their error. Now there is going to be an illegitimate, convict, insurrectionist President. The shame of America and a joke to the world.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 11:15am

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 10:12am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 8:05am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 7:48am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 1:44am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 8:46pm:

And so - they re-elected him.

The majority of voters on election day did not re-elect him.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Aussie on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 11:29am

Correct. Not anywhere near close to 50% even. In fact, 1/3rd of eligible voters did not vote at all.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Frank on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 12:06pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 11:15am:

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 10:12am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 8:05am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 7:48am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 1:44am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 8:46pm:

And so - they re-elected him.

The majority of voters on election day did not re-elect him.

And he is STILL re-elected to be prez.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 12:32pm

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 12:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 11:15am:

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 10:12am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 8:05am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 7:48am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 1:44am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 8:46pm:

And so - they re-elected him.

The majority of voters on election day did not re-elect him.

And he is STILL re-elected to be prez.

Yes. Nobody is disputing the fact that he was elected.

The point is that most Americans don't want him as their President.

So, back to the topic: Trump is a convicted felon (and adjudicated rapist) - that fact will never be erased from history.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by lee on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 12:38pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 12:32pm:

The point is that most Americans don't want him as their President.

The votes say otherwise. ;)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 12:46pm

lee wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 12:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 12:32pm:

The point is that most Americans don't want him as their President.

The votes say otherwise. ;)

Incorrect.

The votes say he won the electoral college and the popular vote.

However, the majority of voters did not vote for him on election day.

He is the President, but he is a very unpopular one without majority support.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Frank on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 12:48pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 12:32pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 12:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 11:15am:

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 10:12am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 8:05am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 7:48am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 1:44am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 8:46pm:

And so - they re-elected him.

The majority of voters on election day did not re-elect him.

And he is STILL re-elected to be prez.

The point is that most Americans don't want him as their President.

So why didn't they elect someone else?.
Were they busy washing their hair? Or what??

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 1:01pm

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 12:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 12:32pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 12:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 11:15am:

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 10:12am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 8:05am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 7:48am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 1:44am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 8:46pm:

And so - they re-elected him.

The majority of voters on election day did not re-elect him.

And he is STILL re-elected to be prez.

The point is that most Americans don't want him as their President.

So why didn't they elect someone else?.
Were they busy washing their hair? Or what??

Do a survey and get back to us with the results.

The point is Trump is a convicted felon and most Americans don't want him as their President.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by lee on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 1:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 12:46pm:

The votes say he won the electoral college and the popular vote.

However, the majority of voters did not vote for him on election day.

So let's see he won the popular vote over Harris. It doesn't matter about voting percentage overall, even Joe didn't get the majority of voters on election day. That must mean he wasn't well liked either.

In 2020 the US adult population was 258.3 million. 158 million voted. Joe got 81 million. So Joe's percentage was 81/258.3 or 31%. ;)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 1:04pm

lee wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 1:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 12:46pm:

The votes say he won the electoral college and the popular vote.

However, the majority of voters did not vote for him on election day.

The majority of voters did not vote for Trump on election day.

It's that simple.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by lee on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 1:16pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 1:04pm:

It's that simple.

As are you. ;)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Aussie on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 1:21pm

Frank wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 12:48pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:40am:

Frank wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:24am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:18am:

I believe your previous take on doing crime involved doing time, Panther.

What does your much loved Constitution have to say about sentencing criminals for felonies?

There was no crime.

There was invention of crimes.

FFS, if you are going to cite a Link, please bung a credible one up! This from your Link:

Quote:

The case was decided by a judge who is personally bizarre and professionally incompetent and adversarial.

There is ZERO evidence to support that crap.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by aquascoot on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 2:18pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 11:12am:

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 10:12am:

And so - they re-elected him.

Many already are sorry for their error. Now there is going to be an illegitimate, convict, insurrectionist President. The shame of America and a joke to the world.

many ??

;D ;D ;D ;D

got a link to that?

does gweggy , you and karnal constitute
"many" ;D ;D

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 3:44pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 11:12am:

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 10:12am:

And so - they re-elected him.

Many already are sorry for their error. Now there is going to be an illegitimate, convict, insurrectionist President. The shame of America and a joke to the world.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by lee on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 3:54pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 3:44pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 11:12am:

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 10:12am:

And so - they re-elected him.

Many already are sorry for their error. Now there is going to be an illegitimate, convict, insurrectionist President. The shame of America and a joke to the world.

Wow so many sad they voted for Kamala. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Dnarever on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 3:57pm

lee wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 1:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 1:04pm:

It's that simple.

As are you. ;)

He is correct - it was about 48% - Where does that leave simple old you ?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Dnarever on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 4:06pm

lee wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 3:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 3:44pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 11:12am:

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 10:12am:

And so - they re-elected him.

Many already are sorry for their error. Now there is going to be an illegitimate, convict, insurrectionist President. The shame of America and a joke to the world.

Wow so many sad they voted for Kamala. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Do you know how many Trump farmers have worked out that Trump is going to deport all their labor ?

Some farmers are saying that the shops will be empty in about 2 days if Trump keeps his promises.

How many Trump Businesses have worked out that Trump is deporting their labor. Building, factory workers, shop assistants, service industry workers etc. Then there is the Tariffs gonna hit Trump voters real big time. They are working it out. Some voted for Trump in the name of no wars and now we have Trump threatening half the world with invasion.

Big Tech already have a deal to not deport their cheap labor.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 4:13pm

lee wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 3:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 3:44pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 11:12am:

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 10:12am:

And so - they re-elected him.

Many already are sorry for their error. Now there is going to be an illegitimate, convict, insurrectionist President. The shame of America and a joke to the world.

Wow so many sad they voted for Kamala.

Why would someone want to change their vote if their candidate didn't win?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 4:25pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 7:48am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 1:44am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 8:46pm:

Don't want to say, do you?

No worries. So why did your DL appeal his conviction in the first place?

That should be really easy for you to answer. Anyone could have a stab.

Give it a go, Aquascoot. Show us how you're not totally farmed. Show us you have the capacity to make a fully reasonable, independent judgement.

No deflections, no equivocations, no lies.

Up for it?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Frank on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 4:25pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 4:06pm:

lee wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 3:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 3:44pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 11:12am:

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 10:12am:

And so - they re-elected him.

Many already are sorry for their error. Now there is going to be an illegitimate, convict, insurrectionist President. The shame of America and a joke to the world.

Wow so many sad they voted for Kamala. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

How did the US ever managed without illegals!! :'( :'(

How did ANY country??

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 4:28pm

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 12:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 11:15am:

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 10:12am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 8:05am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 7:48am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 1:44am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 8:46pm:

And so - they re-elected him.

The majority of voters on election day did not re-elect him.

And he is STILL re-elected to be prez.

I know, right? So who's the fully elected prez right now, old boy?

Don't be shy. Who was erected prez in 2020?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Frank on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 4:38pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 4:28pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 12:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 11:15am:

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 10:12am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 8:05am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 7:48am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 1:44am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 8:46pm:

And so - they re-elected him.

The majority of voters on election day did not re-elect him.

And he is STILL re-elected to be prez.

I know, right? So who's the fully elected prez right now, old boy?

Don't be shy. Who was erected prez in 2020?

Obama's third term coming to an end.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by lee on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 5:25pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 4:13pm:

Why would someone want to change their vote if their candidate didn't win?

people always want to be on the winning side. Human nature innit? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 5:55pm

lee wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 5:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 4:13pm:

Why would someone want to change their vote if their candidate didn't win?

people always want to be on the winning side.

The average American won't be winning under Trump.

Their lives are about to change for the worse.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by lee on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 6:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 5:55pm:

Their lives are about to change for the worse.

Another NostraDumbArse. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 6:46pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 5:55pm:

lee wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 5:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 4:13pm:

Why would someone want to change their vote if their candidate didn't win?

people always want to be on the winning side.

The average American won't be winning under Trump.

Their lives are about to change for the worse.

Ours already have. AUD down a good 5 cents.

Not good for the foreign sex tourist market, eh?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Frank on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 6:59pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 6:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 5:55pm:

lee wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 5:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 4:13pm:

Why would someone want to change their vote if their candidate didn't win?

people always want to be on the winning side.

The average American won't be winning under Trump.

Their lives are about to change for the worse.

Ours already have. AUD down a good 5 cents.

Not good for the foreign sex tourist market, eh?

You mean Trumps US$ is up in relation to Tennis Albo's Au$?

Australia needs to ditch the labor green crap and regain its groundbreaking mojo. Copying the Euro weenies who are being ditched as we speak is moronic, yet Bowels, Albo, Brandt are hellbent on making Australia Euro 2005.

Stupid.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 11:04pm

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 6:59pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 6:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 5:55pm:

lee wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 5:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 4:13pm:

Why would someone want to change their vote if their candidate didn't win?

people always want to be on the winning side.

The average American won't be winning under Trump.

Their lives are about to change for the worse.

Ours already have. AUD down a good 5 cents.

Not good for the foreign sex tourist market, eh?

Chinese iron ore importers don't give a hoot who's in power in Australia, dear boy, but do you know?

You've just outed yourself as a snivelling, butthurt, rusted-on cadaver.

Good thing they buried you in that lovely powder blue jacket, pink trousers and peach cravat.

So tasteful. You and Alan Jones will look so cute next to each other, no?