As California fires raged, L.A. Mayor Karen Bass was in Ghana — showing local leaders what not to do

In times of crisis, people turn to their local leaders — for answers, for management, for morale and, it should go without saying, for leadership.

But what happens when the local leader is nowhere to be found?

That’s exactly the situation that came to pass this week in Los Angeles County, as devastating wildfires ripped through the region, killing at least two people, forcing thousands of evacuations, destroying homes and inundating social media with horrific videos of vicious orange flames consuming everything in their path. 

As the flames crackled and spread, Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass was in Ghana for that country’s presidential inauguration.

It’s unclear when exactly Bass departed for Ghana — her office has not responded to my questions about the timeline of her trip. But it likely would have been sometime after Jan. 3, when President Joe Biden announced the four-member delegation he was sending to Ghana for the Jan. 7 inauguration.

By then, forecasts of dangerous fire conditions were already emerging.

On Jan. 4, the Los Angeles Times reported that a “potentially damaging” offshore wind event was anticipated to sweep across Southern California the following week, which could quickly fan flames in the parched region that hadn’t received meaningful rainfall in eight months.

On Monday — the day before the Ghanaian presidential inauguration — the National Weather Service’s Los Angeles office issued warnings for a “LIFE-THREATENING & DESTRUCTIVE WINDSTORM!!!” and “extreme fire conditions” beginning on Tuesday, prompting Gov. Gavin Newsom to pre-position critical firefighting resources in the area.

If Bass wasn’t already in Ghana at that point, it’s difficult to understand why she still would have chosen to go. And if she was already there, it’s difficult to understand why she didn’t immediately head back to Los Angeles.

“I want to assure the community and the city our mayor has been actively engaged 100% of the time the entire last 24 hours throughout this unfortunate event and crisis,” Celine Cordero, Bass’ deputy chief of staff, said at a news conference Wednesday morning.

Bass was set to return to Los Angeles around noon Wednesday, and just before 1 p.m., posted a video on X showing her talking with Newsom, U.S. Sen. Alex Padilla and firefighters near the scene of a fire. But that appearance may be too little, too late to appease infuriated residents who have lost everything and feel abandoned by their local government.

The Los Angeles County Fire Department, which recently underwent budget cuts, admitted that it was “unprepared” for so many enormous blazes to break out at once, and the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power acknowledged that fire hydrants in Pacific Palisades ran out of water.

“This is an absolute mismanagement by the city,” Rick Caruso, the billionaire businessman who unsuccessfully ran against Bass for Los Angeles mayor, said Tuesday night on KTTV. “We’ve got a mayor that’s out of the country, and we’ve got a city that’s burning, and there’s no resources to put out fires.”

The situation is so dire that even Newsom — who’s not exactly known for focusing on his home state — on Wednesday canceled his planned weekend trip to Washington, D.C., to attend former President Jimmy Carter’s funeral. Instead, his office said, the governor would be staying in California with “all hands on deck” to respond to the fires. (On Tuesday, Newsom declared a state of emergency while visiting Pacific Palisades. On Wednesday, he held a news conference in Santa Monica with President Joe Biden — Bass was noticeably absent.)

Staying in California was the right decision for Newsom.

There of course will be times when local elected officials will need to travel outside of their city or state, but — extenuating circumstances aside — they should be laser-focused on addressing the local issues they were elected to solve. They should be spending the vast majority of their time in the areas they were elected to represent, and they should be among the first people on the scene when something goes wrong.

The lesson stemming from Bass’ faux pas is an important reminder for the Bay Area, which is set to usher in a new generation of leaders.

Wednesday, nonprofit founder and Levi Strauss heir Daniel Lurie was sworn into office as the mayor of San Francisco. Also Wednesday, former Rep. Barbara Lee announced that she’s running for Oakland mayor, joining a crowded race of contenders in a special election to replace Sheng Thao,  recalled by voters in November.

San Francisco and Oakland face entrenched problems — none of which will be solved by political posturing, glad-handing and photo ops. Residents made clear in the November election that they want leaders to double down on addressing local problems: public safety, high-quality education, clean streets. 

https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/emilyhoeven/article/california-fires-palisades-karen-bass-ghana-20022662.php

LA Mayor Karen Bass cut fire department funding by $17.6M, focused on homeless spending— months before wildfires turned city into hellscape

Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass faced scorching criticism Wednesday as it was revealed she cut the city’s Fire Department budget by $17.6 million ahead of this week’s devastating fires – as she prioritized funds for its massive homeless population that largely went unspent, according to a report.

The cut was the second largest in Bass’ 2024-25 fiscal budget, city figures show – and it wasn’t even the gutting she wanted.

If she had it her way, the LAFD budget would have been slashed by $23 million.

LA budgeted $837 million for the Bravest in fiscal year 2023-2024 — which was shockingly 65% of the $1.3 billion slated for the homeless, according to Fox News.

A city comptroller study found that nearly half of that funding went unused, according to the outlet.

https://nypost.com/2025/01/08/us-news/la-mayor-karen-bass-cut-fire-department-funding-by-17-6m/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogJQo751x5s

She doesn't hold a fire hose. ;)

'The 100th meridian is the longitudinal line running from Texas through Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska and into the Dakotas.
Climate experts designate this invisible line as the boundary line between the arid west and the more humid east'. It is moving eastwards as deserts expand with drought into tornado regions, with California earthquakes taking out the rest. Wolves, mountain lions and polar bears take what's left.

Yup, that line moves east like Goyder’s line in SA moves south.

Oh look, it's that time of year again, when News Ltd blames global warming on the leftards.

You're a bit late for Christmas though, Gordon, what happened? You didn't blame the Muslims for destroying our fun.

Do try to be consistent with your views.

lee wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 6:11pm:

She doesn't hold a fire hose. ;)

Who, dear? You're not actually reading Gordon's articles, are you?

Karnal wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 6:18pm:

lee wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 6:11pm: She doesn't hold a fire hose. ;) Who, dear? You're not actually reading Gordon's articles, are you?

Did you catch ocular syphilis on one of your dirty sex tours which prevents you from reading?

The Los Angeles County Fire Department, which recently underwent budget cuts, admitted that it was “unprepared” for so many enormous blazes to break out at once, and the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power acknowledged that fire hydrants in Pacific Palisades ran out of water.

A lefty newspaper has just eviscerated her.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/san-francisco-chronicle/

hang the mayor. hang Biden. hang AGW.

Gordon wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 6:21pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 6:18pm: lee wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 6:11pm: She doesn't hold a fire hose. ;) Who, dear? You're not actually reading Gordon's articles, are you? Did you catch ocular syphilis on one of your dirty sex tours which prevents you from reading? The Los Angeles County Fire Department, which recently underwent budget cuts, admitted that it was “unprepared” for so many enormous blazes to break out at once, and the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power acknowledged that fire hydrants in Pacific Palisades ran out of water.

Thanks for that, Gordon.

You'll need to read this, Lee, it's proof of the leftards' awful DEI hiring.

You can hardly expect some unqualified tinted woman to refill the LA water supply, now can you?

Not sure if they put this news in the West Australian. You'll need a proper News Ltd source for that one, Lee.

Karnal wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 6:18pm:

lee wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 6:11pm: She doesn't hold a fire hose. ;) Who, dear? You're not actually reading Gordon's articles, are you?

Gordon wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 5:56pm:

As California fires raged, L.A. Mayor Karen Bass was in Ghana

Capiche?

BTW- There is no mention of the drying Santa Ana winds. Grasses are a one hour fuel load. Nothing to do with AGW.

And there was a $20 million budget cut in the Fire Dept. ::)

Gordon wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 5:58pm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogJQo751x5s

That was a great smackdown…

Its about time reporters starting asking the hard questions to these useless DEI jerks

Watch the first couple of minutes of this…

“Oh, we are so impressed, you can get pussy”  ;D

https://x.com/realalexjones/status/1877143125925204056?s=61&t=pr9sQbfDnRXI42Hsv2j5ag

The money spent on the homeless are all the non whites that spilled over the border for Biden. Easy money.

Megyn Kelly goes Off……

https://x.com/langmanvince/status/1877174502645195046?s=61&t=pr9sQbfDnRXI42Hsv2j5ag

This is who the REAL Karen Bass is …..and why she keeps going over seas
It will blow your socks off…

https://x.com/michellemaxwell/status/1877164442367975919?s=61&t=pr9sQbfDnRXI42Hsv2j5ag

lee wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 7:35pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 6:18pm: lee wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 6:11pm: She doesn't hold a fire hose. ;) Who, dear? You're not actually reading Gordon's articles, are you? Gordon wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 5:56pm: As California fires raged, L.A. Mayor Karen Bass was in Ghana Capiche? BTW- There is no mention of the drying Santa Ana winds. Grasses are a one hour fuel load. Nothing to do with AGW. And there was a $20 million budget cut in the Fire Dept. ::)

Cheers, Lee. Did they cut the budget to send this woman to deepest, darkest Ghana?

Despicable stuff.

Excuse I, Gordon, that's one up on you, dear. You've only been to Delhi, you poor thing.

If you don't mind saying, how did you find the sex tourism?

lee wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 7:35pm:

Grasses are a one hour fuel load. Nothing to do with AGW.

Iceland causes volcanic heating which is why Trump will buy Greenland, then move to fence off the mid Atlantic eruptions. 24 hours maximum.

Karnal wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 8:14pm:

Did they cut the budget to send this woman to deepest, darkest Ghana?

No they cut the budget because fuel load has previously been burned. No fuel, no fire; so don't need water. ;)

lee wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 9:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 8:14pm: Did they cut the budget to send this woman to deepest, darkest Ghana? No they cut the budget because fuel load has previously been burned. No fuel, no fire; so don't need water. ;)

Where do you think they find water in LA, Lee?

In the gay bar?

Karnal wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 6:17pm:

Oh look, it's that time of year again, when News Ltd blames global warming on the leftards. You're a bit late for Christmas though, Gordon, what happened? You didn't blame the Muslims for destroying our fun. Do try to be consistent with your views.

The SF Chronicle (The OP article's source) is not  News Corp paper, grimacing son of Lahore.

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 7:39pm:

Watch the first couple of minutes of this… “Oh, we are so impressed, you can get pussy”  ;D https://x.com/realalexjones/status/1877143125925204056?s=61&t=pr9sQbfDnRXI42Hsv2j5ag

Diverse Lgbtq+ firefighters - what could go wrong??

Er... large swathes of LA burn down, that's what.

Karnal wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 9:28pm:

Where do you think they find water in LA, Lee? In the gay bar?

Only the Golden Showers. ;)

Mayor Karen Hyslop of Northern Grampians Shire said that the bushfire in the Grampians National Park in Victoria was declared contained on January 6, 2025, after burning out of control for three weeks. Australia does better and greater fires and they are out of control for longer. Water was donated to Grampians Gays for water-slides, showers, hair washing and flower-bed watering.

Frank wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 9:34pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 6:17pm: Oh look, it's that time of year again, when News Ltd blames global warming on the leftards. You're a bit late for Christmas though, Gordon, what happened? You didn't blame the Muslims for destroying our fun. Do try to be consistent with your views. The SF Chronicle (The OP article's source) is not  News Corp paper, grimacing son of Lahore.

Oh, I know. The SF Chronicle focuses on the hose-holding angle. Gordon quickly realized his mistake and switched to the Post's DEI angle.

Cunning, no?

Still, we're all men of the world, old boy. You've played the old yeah-but-no-but game yourself, no?

Good old Vickie Pollard. Gordon may have fingered her once.

Intelligence and integrity, innit.
.

Quote:

🔥 L.A. Fires Predicted with incredible accuracy by Fireman who spoke to Joe Rogan. 👀🔥 https://x.com/TUPACABRA2/status/1877127191453896775

Wind does play a huge part with bushfires spreading

Did they have 40 Mph wind?

This Karen (real name) does have some responsibility for the bad outcome.

The problem stems from stupid woke democrat policy in California.

Let this Black guy explain the democrat failures


Quote:

This video exposes  “conservation policies” by Gavin Newsom that have created the conditions for apocalyptic fires here in CA. CA is REDIRECTING and DUMPING into the ocean, much need water flow from Canada!  https://x.com/RousingRevel/status/1877129029188255758

No backburning no clearing deadwood just a buildup of fuel.

There are some who blame Eucalyptus trees which were imported from Australia for severity of California fires.

Frank wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 9:43pm:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 7:39pm: Watch the first couple of minutes of this… “Oh, we are so impressed, you can get pussy”  ;D https://x.com/realalexjones/status/1877143125925204056?s=61&t=pr9sQbfDnRXI42Hsv2j5ag Diverse Lgbtq+ firefighters - what could go wrong?? Er... large swathes of LA burn down, that's what.

But of course. The hottest Summer on record, followed by the windiest Winter. What could possibly go wrong?

Lee knows, but he's not saying.

Now, if those gender-diverse firepersons can just fill up all those desert fire hydrants, LA should be right in no time.

DRILL BABY DRILL !!!

Nice propaganda Gordon you f**king bigot


Never mind the climate change and those incredibly strong Santa Ana winds which is currently bringing a blizzard to my state

Marla wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 1:27am:

Nice propaganda Gordon you f**king bigot Never mind the climate change and those incredibly strong Santa Ana winds which is currently bringing a blizzard to my state

Burn baby burn!

Smell-A can burn to the ground for all I care. Way too many illegal kangaroo rooters living there anyways.

Only their F A T orange messiah can save them now - by deporting them.

'Our new fire chief... she took over and she put on her bio that her priority, 'my highest priority,' is inclusion, diversity and equity... and somebody forgot to fill all the reservoirs, I guess, with water.'

Crowley's bio does indeed say, among other things, that: 'Creating, supporting, and promoting a culture that values diversity, inclusion, and equity while striving to meet and exceed the expectations of the communities are Chief Crowley's priorities.'

Woods pointed out that she was focused on that while, in the meantime: 'Somebody forgot to fill all the reservoirs, I guess, with water!'

The actor cited his own experience, where fire trucks pulled up to his home but couldn't pump water because the reservoirs were empty.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14265559/James-Woods-rips-LA-Fire-Chief-Kristin-Crowley-DEI.html

Gordon wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 3:26am:

' The actor cited his own experience, where fire trucks pulled up to his home but couldn't pump water because the reservoirs were empty. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14265559/James-Woods-rips-LA-Fire-Chief-Kristin-Crowley-DEI.html

Oh no! DEI somehow forgot to fill the reservoirs! Seems like climate change in the "shithole" of a state got off easy this time.

Sonny and Cher It Never Rains in Southern California 1973

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ewDTQ2qVrY

What more proof of the End Times do we need?


https://m3.gab.com/media_attachments/3b/05/4a/3b054afe02b6cd7ee630226a056d7a1a.png

more concocted outrage by the retarded right :D :D

I suppose we’re meant to overlook the fact that, on multiple occasions, Trump not only threatened to withhold federal funding from California for wildfire prevention and response but also repeatedly delayed much-needed federal relief after the state had been devastated, actions many attributed to the simple reality that California didn’t support him at the ballot box.

He makes a lot of empty threats... He's a cowardly paper tiger.

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 6:52am:

I suppose we’re meant to overlook the fact that, on multiple occasions, Trump not only threatened to withhold federal funding from California for wildfire prevention and response but also repeatedly delayed much-needed federal relief after the state had been devastated, actions many attributed to the simple reality that California didn’t support him at the ballot box. He makes a lot of empty threats... He's a cowardly paper tiger.

Trump hasn't been in power for the last 4 years.   ::)

forgiven

namaste

The efforts to fight the fires saw water use soar to rates many times the yearly rate.

Were fire bombers used?

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 7:02am:

The efforts to fight the fires saw water use soar to rates many times the yearly rate. Were fire bombers used?

No because there were 100mph winds.

Shows the importance of planning a garden and buildings to be fire resistant.

Eucalypts and pines around a house and nothing can save it in a wild/bush fire. Mulch such as straw is going to burn and may be flung against buildings by wind—use gravel mulch etc, don’t have beds running all the way to the house, just guiding the fire to it, etc.

Have a deck? Fill in the sides with brick so if an ember lands on the ground under your deck it doesn’t have convection to boost any fire. Etc. There are books on the subject.

Lol. She spent all the money on all those plebs flooding across the border for Biden because they were homeless.
Now the fires have made Americans homeless as well.

Only such stupidity comes from the effects of the Most Incompetent President in American History.

Pure incompetence.

Firefighting is mostly white and male. A California program aims to change that

https://www.npr.org/2023/06/05/1180213128/firefighting-is-mostly-white-and-male-a-california-program-aims-to-change-that#:~:text=Firefighting%20is%20mostly%20white%20and,aims%20to%20change%20that%20%3A%20NPR&text=Television-,Firefighting%20is%20mostly%20white%20and%20male.,years%20with%20only%20modest%20success.

Gordon wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 3:26am:

'Our new fire chief... she took over and she put on her bio that her priority, 'my highest priority,' is inclusion, diversity and equity... and somebody forgot to fill all the reservoirs, I guess, with water.' Crowley's bio does indeed say, among other things, that: 'Creating, supporting, and promoting a culture that values diversity, inclusion, and equity while striving to meet and exceed the expectations of the communities are Chief Crowley's priorities.' Woods pointed out that she was focused on that while, in the meantime: 'Somebody forgot to fill all the reservoirs, I guess, with water!' The actor cited his own experience, where fire trucks pulled up to his home but couldn't pump water because the reservoirs were empty. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14265559/James-Woods-rips-LA-Fire-Chief-Kristin-Crowley-DEI.html

Just so, Gordon. The LA fire commissioner was so busy with pronouns, frontbottoms and other DEI voodoo, she forgot to make it rain.

What do you think she was doing over in deepest darkest Ghana?

Despicable stuff.

NZ appoints first openly lesbian NAVY captain.  NZ ship captained by lesbian catches fire, capsizes and sinks.

Lesbian fire chiefs prioritizes DEI and equity over water. LA burns down.


Cause or correlation?

Frank wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 9:21am:

NZ appoints first openly lesbian NAVY captain.  NZ ship captained by lesbian catches fire, capsizes and sinks. Lesbian fire chiefs prioritizes DEI and equity over water. LA burns down. Cause or correlation?

Hard to say, old boy. NZ has an openly lesbian defence minister too. They all stick together.

"The one thing that we already know did not cause it is the gender of the ship's captain."

As if. She's thrown a bit of a tizz too, as you'd expect.


Quote:

"I thought seriously in 2024 what the hell is going on here with people who are sitting there in their armchair operating a keyboard making comments about people that they do not know, about an area they do not know and they are just vile. Where's a bit of decency."

They love their virtue signalling ever so, no?

Correlation, innit.

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 6:52am:

I suppose we’re meant to overlook the fact that, on multiple occasions, Trump not only threatened to withhold federal funding from California for wildfire prevention and response but also repeatedly delayed much-needed federal relief after the state had been devastated, actions many attributed to the simple reality that California didn’t support him at the ballot box. He makes a lot of empty threats... He's a cowardly paper tiger.

Frinking hell you're stupid.

Los Angeles cut $17.5M from fire department budget months before deadly fires

Seven months before the uncontrolled Palisades Fire in Los Angeles, the city's fire department budget for this fiscal year was cut by more than $17.5 million, records show.

Mayor Karen Bass signed the City of Los Angeles' budget for the 2024-2025 fiscal year. The total budget for the city's fire department was $819.64 million.


https://abc11.com/post/los-angeles-cut-175m-fire-department-budget-months-before-palisades-signed-mayor-karen-bass/15782731/

Karnal wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 9:12am:

The LA fire commissioner was so busy with pronouns, frontbottoms and other DEI voodoo, she forgot to make it rain.

So they have no water catchments in SoCal?

https://cdec.water.ca.gov/dynamicapp/getAll?sens_num=15

AF = Acre Feet

https://i.postimg.cc/sDG3T8hz/Screenshot-2025-01-10-060318.png

https://i.postimg.cc/FHtN8ZyL/Screenshot-2025-01-10-060252.png

LoL

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS6uMfhKk/

Gordon wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 2:05pm:

LoL https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS6uMfhKk/

omg gordon

thats freaking unbelievable

"we need to see someone that LOOKS LIKE YOU  to put out a fire"

DOGE will fire them all  ;)

Karnal wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 10:25am:

Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 9:21am: NZ appoints first openly lesbian NAVY captain.  NZ ship captained by lesbian catches fire, capsizes and sinks. Lesbian fire chiefs prioritizes DEI and equity over water. LA burns down. Cause or correlation? Hard to say, old boy. NZ has an openly lesbian defence minister too. They all stick together. "The one thing that we already know did not cause it is the gender of the ship's captain." As if. She's thrown a bit of a tizz too, as you'd expect. Quote: "I thought seriously in 2024 what the hell is going on here with people who are sitting there in their armchair operating a keyboard making comments about people that they do not know, about an area they do not know and they are just vile. Where's a bit of decency." They love their virtue signalling ever so, no? Correlation, innit.

HMNZS Manawanui ran aground one nautical mile from the Samoan island of Upolu on Saturday night while surveying a reef. It later caught fire and capsized.



It would have been farcical incompetence whoever the captain. But with the moronic DEI push in every aspect of life, from the military to firefighters and presidential candidates, it is incompetence with a big cherry of po-faced woke stupidity on top.

Frank wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 2:47pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 10:25am: Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 9:21am: NZ appoints first openly lesbian NAVY captain.  NZ ship captained by lesbian catches fire, capsizes and sinks. Lesbian fire chiefs prioritizes DEI and equity over water. LA burns down. Cause or correlation? Hard to say, old boy. NZ has an openly lesbian defence minister too. They all stick together. "The one thing that we already know did not cause it is the gender of the ship's captain." As if. She's thrown a bit of a tizz too, as you'd expect. Quote: "I thought seriously in 2024 what the hell is going on here with people who are sitting there in their armchair operating a keyboard making comments about people that they do not know, about an area they do not know and they are just vile. Where's a bit of decency." They love their virtue signalling ever so, no? Correlation, innit. HMNZS Manawanui ran aground one nautical mile from the Samoan island of Upolu on Saturday night while surveying a reef. It later caught fire and capsized. It would have been farcical incompetence whoever the captain. But with the moronic DEI push in every aspect of life, from the military to firefighters and presidential candidates, it is incompetence with a big cherry of po-faced woke stupidity on top.

I see. So you're saying it's not the gender of the captain, are you?

Aye aye, old boy. You're able to obey your orders and repeat your lines, but do you know?

Judith's right. People who are sitting there in their armchairs operating a keyboard making comments about people that they do not know, about an area they do not know, are just vile.

Judith may care to use a question mark from time to time, but I'd say she's assessed the situation just so.

Correlation not causation, innit.

lee wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 1:24pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 9:12am: The LA fire commissioner was so busy with pronouns, frontbottoms and other DEI voodoo, she forgot to make it rain. So they have no water catchments in SoCal? https://cdec.water.ca.gov/dynamicapp/getAll?sens_num=15 AF = Acre Feet

Ooh-er. Water catchments, is it?

I see. Where do you think the Los Angeles Fire Commissioner finds the water to pump from her catchments?

I mean, here's Gordon suggesting trannie firepersons can't hold the hose to drain those catchments.

Too offensive and triggering, I guess.

And here's the old boy suggesting she's over in Ghana doing some Voodoo rain dance to fill those catchments.

Too backward, primitive and tinted.

And here's you, blaming the leftards' funding cuts. So hypocritical and typical of the left, eh?

Particularly when the funding increased by $53 mil.

Now, what were you saying about the LA drought again?

Cheers.

Karnal wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 6:00pm:

Particularly when the funding increased by $53 mil.

Ooh increase in November. Just in time for the Christmas break. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

rogan on the money again

even on australian news

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoZQMv_Ke_0

The mayor stood on the burning deck
Whence all but she had fled;
The flame that lit the battle's wreck
Shone round her o'er the dead.

Yet beautiful and bright she stood,
As born to rule the storm;
A creature of heroic blood,
A proud though child-like form.
The wind rolled on—she would not go
Without her Los Angeles Center Weather Service meteorologists report.
That man, faint in death below,
His voice no longer heard.

Karnal wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 6:00pm:

lee wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 1:24pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 9:12am: The LA fire commissioner was so busy with pronouns, frontbottoms and other DEI voodoo, she forgot to make it rain. So they have no water catchments in SoCal? https://cdec.water.ca.gov/dynamicapp/getAll?sens_num=15 AF = Acre Feet Ooh-er. Water catchments, is it? I see. Where do you think the Los Angeles Fire Commissioner finds the water to pump from her catchments? I mean, here's Gordon suggesting trannie firepersons can't hold the hose to drain those catchments. Too offensive and triggering, I guess. And here's the old boy suggesting she's over in Ghana doing some Voodoo rain dance to fill those catchments. Too backward, primitive and tinted. And here's you, blaming the leftards' funding cuts. So hypocritical and typical of the left, eh? Particularly when the funding increased by $53 mil. Now, what were you saying about the LA drought again? Cheers.

So WHAT IS the task of a mayor and a fire chief?

Diversity? African flouncing and post-colonial preening? LGBTQ+ boosterism? 

No.

Fire fighter = fight fires. Not DEI, NOT race, pronouns, not who tickles your lady bits.

lee wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 6:08pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 6:00pm: Particularly when the funding increased by $53 mil. Ooh increase in November. Just in time for the Christmas break. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

No no, I asked you about the current drought. And the hottest Summer, and the windiest Winter.

If you don't want to answer, just say why. Why do you refuse to discuss the weather?

We're British.

Frank wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 7:00pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 6:00pm: lee wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 1:24pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 9:12am: The LA fire commissioner was so busy with pronouns, frontbottoms and other DEI voodoo, she forgot to make it rain. So they have no water catchments in SoCal? https://cdec.water.ca.gov/dynamicapp/getAll?sens_num=15 AF = Acre Feet Ooh-er. Water catchments, is it? I see. Where do you think the Los Angeles Fire Commissioner finds the water to pump from her catchments? I mean, here's Gordon suggesting trannie firepersons can't hold the hose to drain those catchments. Too offensive and triggering, I guess. And here's the old boy suggesting she's over in Ghana doing some Voodoo rain dance to fill those catchments. Too backward, primitive and tinted. And here's you, blaming the leftards' funding cuts. So hypocritical and typical of the left, eh? Particularly when the funding increased by $53 mil. Now, what were you saying about the LA drought again? Cheers. So WHAT IS the task of a mayor and a fire chief? Diversity? African flouncing and post-colonial preening? LGBTQ+ boosterism?  No. Fire fighter = fight fires. Not DEI, NOT race, pronouns, not who tickles your lady bits.

That's a question, is it?

That was quick. Back to intelligence and integrity, are we?

No more correlation for you.

You keep lying, old boy, we'll keep admiring your stool.

Good show.

It is alleged that a Darkie with a blow torch set the place on fire:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1KvI6OeGfg

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 9:17pm:

It is alleged that a Darkie with a blow torch set the place on fire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1KvI6OeGfg

Here you go, Lee. Don't watch this one.

You might want to find a non-News Ltd site about the Darkies instead.

Maybe ask Bobi for one of his memes.

Sonny and Cher It Never Rains in Southern California 1973


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ewDTQ2qVrY

Karnal wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 9:11pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 7:00pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 6:00pm: lee wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 1:24pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 9:12am: The LA fire commissioner was so busy with pronouns, frontbottoms and other DEI voodoo, she forgot to make it rain. So they have no water catchments in SoCal? https://cdec.water.ca.gov/dynamicapp/getAll?sens_num=15 AF = Acre Feet Ooh-er. Water catchments, is it? I see. Where do you think the Los Angeles Fire Commissioner finds the water to pump from her catchments? I mean, here's Gordon suggesting trannie firepersons can't hold the hose to drain those catchments. Too offensive and triggering, I guess. And here's the old boy suggesting she's over in Ghana doing some Voodoo rain dance to fill those catchments. Too backward, primitive and tinted. And here's you, blaming the leftards' funding cuts. So hypocritical and typical of the left, eh? Particularly when the funding increased by $53 mil. Now, what were you saying about the LA drought again? Cheers. So WHAT IS the task of a mayor and a fire chief? Diversity? African flouncing and post-colonial preening? LGBTQ+ boosterism?  No. Fire fighter = fight fires. Not DEI, NOT race, pronouns, not who tickles your lady bits. That's a question, is it? That was quick. Back to intelligence and integrity, are we? No more correlation for you. You keep lying, old boy, we'll keep admiring your stool. Good show.

You are losing, paki, because you h ave always been losing.
From Sydney Push to TDS. You are a loser.
Loud, hectic, grimacing, hysteric - but a loser.

You stand for stupid. Through the ages.

;D ;D ;D

FBI agents searched the home of a Los Angeles deputy mayor on Tuesday as part of an investigation into whether he made a bomb threat against City Hall, officials said.

Zach Seidl, a spokesperson for Mayor Karen Bass, said she was notified that the search took place at the home of Brian K. Williams, her deputy mayor for public safety, as part of an investigation into a bomb threat Williams “allegedly made” this year.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-12-18/fbi-agents-search-home-of-l-a-deputy-mayor-over-city-hall-bomb-threat

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America is being turned into Africa.

Karnal wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 8:22pm:

No no, I asked you about the current drought. And the hottest Summer, and the windiest Winter.

So which one lit the fire?

Drought? Nope. Drought doesn't light fires


Wind? - Nope. It doesn't light fires either.

"Hottest Summer"?  So tell us how a 1C anomaly started a fire. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

BTW - strangely Southern California is in a +/-0.2C zone. ;)

https://www.nsstc.uah.edu/climate/2024/December/2024_Annual_Map.png

lee wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 11:46pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 8:22pm: No no, I asked you about the current drought. And the hottest Summer, and the windiest Winter. So which one lit the fire? Drought? Nope. Drought doesn't light fires Wind? - Nope. It doesn't light fires either. "Hottest Summer"?  So tell us how a 1C anomaly started a fire. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D BTW - strangely Southern California is in a +/-0.2C zone. ;) https://www.nsstc.uah.edu/climate/2024/December/2024_Annual_Map.png

Lighting fires, is it?

I see. So whodunnit?

We've gone from the Fire Commissioner to tranny firepersons to voodoo high priestesses in deepest darkest Ghana.

Sheesh, we've even dredged up New Zealand naval captains in our search for the culprit.

Along the way, we've explored water catchments (empty), fire department funding (increased) and now unprecedented heat and wind (that somehow, against all expert advice, doesn't spread fires).

Do you know what you are, Lee?

You're a real bright spark. You're our board's resident expert fireman, no?

Sorry, dear. Fireperson.

DEI, innit.

Frank wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 9:54pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 9:11pm: Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 7:00pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 6:00pm: lee wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 1:24pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 9:12am: The LA fire commissioner was so busy with pronouns, frontbottoms and other DEI voodoo, she forgot to make it rain. So they have no water catchments in SoCal? https://cdec.water.ca.gov/dynamicapp/getAll?sens_num=15 AF = Acre Feet Ooh-er. Water catchments, is it? I see. Where do you think the Los Angeles Fire Commissioner finds the water to pump from her catchments? I mean, here's Gordon suggesting trannie firepersons can't hold the hose to drain those catchments. Too offensive and triggering, I guess. And here's the old boy suggesting she's over in Ghana doing some Voodoo rain dance to fill those catchments. Too backward, primitive and tinted. And here's you, blaming the leftards' funding cuts. So hypocritical and typical of the left, eh? Particularly when the funding increased by $53 mil. Now, what were you saying about the LA drought again? Cheers. So WHAT IS the task of a mayor and a fire chief? Diversity? African flouncing and post-colonial preening? LGBTQ+ boosterism?  No. Fire fighter = fight fires. Not DEI, NOT race, pronouns, not who tickles your lady bits. That's a question, is it? That was quick. Back to intelligence and integrity, are we? No more correlation for you. You keep lying, old boy, we'll keep admiring your stool. Good show. You are losing, paki, because you h ave always been losing. From Sydney Push to TDS. You are a loser. Loud, hectic, grimacing, hysteric - but a loser. You stand for stupid. Through the ages.

So much winning, dear boy. Every child wins a prize, no?

Do tell when you'd like it delivered.

DEEP STATE !!!

Gordon wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 5:56pm:

LA Mayor Karen Bass cut fire department funding by $17.6M, focused on homeless spending— months before wildfires turned city into hellscape Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass faced scorching criticism Wednesday as it was revealed she cut the city’s Fire Department budget by $17.6 million ahead of this week’s devastating fires – as she prioritized funds for its massive homeless population that largely went unspent, according to a report. The cut was the second largest in Bass’ 2024-25 fiscal budget, city figures show – and it wasn’t even the gutting she wanted. If she had it her way, the LAFD budget would have been slashed by $23 million. LA budgeted $837 million for the Bravest in fiscal year 2023-2024 — which was shockingly 65% of the $1.3 billion slated for the homeless, according to Fox News. A city comptroller study found that nearly half of that funding went unused, according to the outlet. https://nypost.com/2025/01/08/us-news/la-mayor-karen-bass-cut-fire-department-funding-by-17-6m/

  Oh dear , another right wing "alternative facts " story.

Critics on social media have alleged that Mayor Karen Bass cut the city fire department’s budget by $23 million this year. The accusation has spread quickly, with many looking to cast blame for the devastating wildfires that have destroyed thousands of buildings in Los Angeles County this week and resulted in at least 4 deaths.

In her story on criticism’s of Mayor Bass during this crisis, reporter Linh Tat addressed the budget question.

“On Thursday, a spokesperson for L.A. City Councilmember Bob Blumenfield, who was budget chair last year, said the city increased the fire department’s overall budget by approximately $53 million in the current fiscal year. However, $76 million – intended to pay for fire department personnel – was placed in a fund separate from the fire department’s regular account when the budget was adopted because contract negotiations with department employees were still taking place at the time.”  As a result, if you just compare the LAFD’s budget last year to this year’s, it looks like it went down $23M. But that’s because when the budget was adopted last May or June, the city was still negotiating those new contracts. The $76M that was set aside in a separate account ultimately was moved once the MOUs were finalized.

scope wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 7:33am:

Critics on social media have alleged that Mayor Karen Bass cut the city fire department’s budget by $23 million this year. The accusation has spread quickly, with many looking to cast blame for the devastating wildfires that have destroyed thousands of buildings in Los Angeles County this week and resulted in at least 4 deaths. In her story on criticism’s of Mayor Bass during this crisis, reporter Linh Tat addressed the budget question. “On Thursday, a spokesperson for L.A. City Councilmember Bob Blumenfield, who was budget chair last year, said the city increased the fire department’s overall budget by approximately $53 million in the current fiscal year. However, $76 million – intended to pay for fire department personnel – was placed in a fund separate from the fire department’s regular account when the budget was adopted because contract negotiations with department employees were still taking place at the time.”  As a result, if you just compare the LAFD’s budget last year to this year’s, it looks like it went down $23M. But that’s because when the budget was adopted last May or June, the city was still negotiating those new contracts. The $76M that was set aside in a separate account ultimately was moved once the MOUs were finalized.

ahhh gee, so the retarded right lied about the funding cuts ... surprise :D :D

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 9:23am:

scope wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:33am: Critics on social media have alleged that Mayor Karen Bass cut the city fire department’s budget by $23 million this year. The accusation has spread quickly, with many looking to cast blame for the devastating wildfires that have destroyed thousands of buildings in Los Angeles County this week and resulted in at least 4 deaths. In her story on criticism’s of Mayor Bass during this crisis, reporter Linh Tat addressed the budget question. “On Thursday, a spokesperson for L.A. City Councilmember Bob Blumenfield, who was budget chair last year, said the city increased the fire department’s overall budget by approximately $53 million in the current fiscal year. However, $76 million – intended to pay for fire department personnel – was placed in a fund separate from the fire department’s regular account when the budget was adopted because contract negotiations with department employees were still taking place at the time.”  As a result, if you just compare the LAFD’s budget last year to this year’s, it looks like it went down $23M. But that’s because when the budget was adopted last May or June, the city was still negotiating those new contracts. The $76M that was set aside in a separate account ultimately was moved once the MOUs were finalized. ahhh gee, so the retarded right lied about the funding cuts ... surprise :D :D

How peculiar. So far, we've got Gordon, Frank and Lee, all waiting on their prizes. 

The old boy's easy, not sure what to give Gordon.

A week away in a go-go bar in Laos would be nice.

You know, somewhere with ethanol.

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 11:42am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 9:23am: scope wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:33am: Critics on social media have alleged that Mayor Karen Bass cut the city fire department’s budget by $23 million this year. The accusation has spread quickly, with many looking to cast blame for the devastating wildfires that have destroyed thousands of buildings in Los Angeles County this week and resulted in at least 4 deaths. In her story on criticism’s of Mayor Bass during this crisis, reporter Linh Tat addressed the budget question. “On Thursday, a spokesperson for L.A. City Councilmember Bob Blumenfield, who was budget chair last year, said the city increased the fire department’s overall budget by approximately $53 million in the current fiscal year. However, $76 million – intended to pay for fire department personnel – was placed in a fund separate from the fire department’s regular account when the budget was adopted because contract negotiations with department employees were still taking place at the time.”  As a result, if you just compare the LAFD’s budget last year to this year’s, it looks like it went down $23M. But that’s because when the budget was adopted last May or June, the city was still negotiating those new contracts. The $76M that was set aside in a separate account ultimately was moved once the MOUs were finalized. ahhh gee, so the retarded right lied about the funding cuts ... surprise :D :D How peculiar. So far, we've got Gordon, Frank and Lee, all waiting on their prizes.  The old boy's easy, not sure what to give Gordon. A week away in a go-go bar in Laos would be nice. You know, somewhere with ethanol.

Oh, so a budget cuts NOW are not real if you include FUTURE budget allocations.

There will be more money AFTER the fires!  Yay!


Was there any cut to the LGBTQ+ Outreach Department of the FDLA?
Er... no. That was a priority. Ahead of trivialities like water in hydrants.

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 12:18am:

Lighting fires, is it? I see. So whodunnit?

No one at this stage knows. And all the other is just theatre. I don't care if it is a cyborg running these departments, as long as they do their job.
Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 12:18am:

Along the way, we've explored water catchments (empty), fire department funding (increased) and now unprecedented heat and wind (that somehow, against all expert advice, doesn't spread fires).

Whoever said winds didn't spread fires? Apart from you that is. Because that would make them a numpty also.

Wind is a drying agent. It makes grasses what is known as a one-hour fuel. That mean it can go from wet to flammable in one hour.


Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 12:18am:

You're our board's resident expert fireman, no?

Expert fireman? no. I am a volunteer and although I have the training and refreshers, there are not many fires here. Yesterday I was at one started by an angle grinder. Last time I looked angle grinders also weren't classed as climate.  Fireman - yes.

She's a bloody idiot

not just from the wildfires ravaging the city but also from her fumbling of a press briefing. In a moment that quickly went viral, Bass advised residents seeking emergency help that "all of this can be found at URL," leaving critics and citizens alike scratching their heads.

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/karen-bass-viral-gaffe-find-help-at-url-internet-roasts-los-angeles-mayor-over-blunder-amid-raging-wildfires-musk-reacts/ar-BB1r9IlP

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS6HLW2xF/

"Southern California is experiencing its most devastating winter fires in more than four decades."

https://apnews.com/article/fire-devastation-climate-change-santa-ana-winds-a46e2bb6785b1e325f6076fb22c8fcc5

So not unheard of then. Perhaps it was warmer 40 years ago?

Frank wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 12:15pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 11:42am: John Smith wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 9:23am: scope wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:33am: Critics on social media have alleged that Mayor Karen Bass cut the city fire department’s budget by $23 million this year. The accusation has spread quickly, with many looking to cast blame for the devastating wildfires that have destroyed thousands of buildings in Los Angeles County this week and resulted in at least 4 deaths. In her story on criticism’s of Mayor Bass during this crisis, reporter Linh Tat addressed the budget question. “On Thursday, a spokesperson for L.A. City Councilmember Bob Blumenfield, who was budget chair last year, said the city increased the fire department’s overall budget by approximately $53 million in the current fiscal year. However, $76 million – intended to pay for fire department personnel – was placed in a fund separate from the fire department’s regular account when the budget was adopted because contract negotiations with department employees were still taking place at the time.”  As a result, if you just compare the LAFD’s budget last year to this year’s, it looks like it went down $23M. But that’s because when the budget was adopted last May or June, the city was still negotiating those new contracts. The $76M that was set aside in a separate account ultimately was moved once the MOUs were finalized. ahhh gee, so the retarded right lied about the funding cuts ... surprise :D :D How peculiar. So far, we've got Gordon, Frank and Lee, all waiting on their prizes.  The old boy's easy, not sure what to give Gordon. A week away in a go-go bar in Laos would be nice. You know, somewhere with ethanol. Oh, so a budget cuts NOW are not real if you include FUTURE budget allocations. There will be more money AFTER the fires!  Yay! Was there any cut to the LGBTQ+ Outreach Department of the FDLA? Er... no. That was a priority. Ahead of trivialities like water in hydrants.

No, dear boy, budget cuts not real when they're budget increases.

I would have thought this is perfectly understandable, as outlined in the link provided to you yesterday.

The article provides dollar amounts and describes the LA budget process during the contract negotiation phase.

Now, over to you to provide the LAFD's budget for LGBTQ+ Outreach to back your statement.

We'll need the Fire Department's LGBTQ+ costings for the 2024/5 budget just as you've claimed, thanks.

lee wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 2:03pm:

"Southern California is experiencing its most devastating winter fires in more than four decades." https://apnews.com/article/fire-devastation-climate-change-santa-ana-winds-a46e2bb6785b1e325f6076fb22c8fcc5 So not unheard of then. Perhaps it was warmer 40 years ago?

Warmer, was it?

Strange. Meteorologists have a rather different take on that one, Lee, but why not? We all have our different points of view on thermometer readings. Perhaps we're experiencing dangerous global cooling, eh?

Sure, it feels hot, but feelings can be deceptive. Perhaps we're having an outbreak of mass dysesthesia.

With all these different thermometer interpretations, I guess we'll never know.

Karnal - the Darkies did it.


It is alleged that a Darkie with a blow torch set the place on fire:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1KvI6OeGfg

BREAKING: LAPD Releases Blowtorch Man - No Arson, Just Felony Probation Violation!


https://rumble.com/v683dss-breaking-lapd-releases-blowtorch-man-no-arson-just-felony-probation-violati.html

Jan 11, 2025 

A homeless man accused of attempting arson with a blowtorch in Woodland Hills, Los Angeles, was subdued and zip-tied by locals performing a citizen’s arrest.

Police detained the man, but his connection to the devastating Kenneth Fire, which has caused mass evacuations and significant damage, remains unclear.

Celebrities like Khloe Kardashian and Henry Winkler have condemned the suspected arsonist as wildfires, fueled by extreme weather, have destroyed over 10,000 structures, killed at least 10 people, and ravaged areas like Pacific Palisades and Malibu, the Daily Mail has reported.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxin6tKIPsM

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 3:47pm:

Karnal - the Darkies did it. It is alleged that a Darkie with a blow torch set the place on fire:

I think you'll find that the fires were started by Jewish space lasers, Bobbi.

Biden played the fiddle while California burned.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 3:55pm:

Biden played the fiddle while California burned.

He did the exact opposite, in fact.

What do you think the rapist will do - play golf and tell California to go bugger itself?

"Biden’s Beach Binge: 532 Vacation Days in 3.6 Years—Is He Working Enough?"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-s-beach-binge-532-vacation-days-in-36-years-is-he-working-enough/ar-AA1qf5iG

Another one who doesn't hold a fire hose.

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 3:43pm:

Warmer, was it?

Who knows? Temperature stations at airports are not fit for climate purposes. Only for air traffic control. ;)


Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 3:43pm:

Sure, it feels hot, but feelings can be deceptive.

So you can tell the global average temperature anomaly difference of about 1.5C? Well done that man. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 4:03pm:

"Biden’s Beach Binge: 532 Vacation Days in 3.6 Years—Is He Working Enough?" https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-s-beach-binge-532-vacation-days-in-36-years-is-he-working-enough/ar-AA1qf5iG Another one who doesn't hold a fire hose.

A bit like ScoMo - he doesn't hold a hose -

he went to Hawaii for a holiday.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 4:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 3:55pm: Biden played the fiddle while California burned. He did the exact opposite, in fact. What do you think the rapist will do - play golf and tell California to go bugger itself?

https://m3.gab.com/media_attachments/3e/03/a8/3e03a87ef8384b75b66a7e92799159fc.jpg

Biden arranged funding for the victims.

You could have made an NotTheEnvironment thread about this—why were the fires so more severe than in the past, what ENVIRONMENTAL factors caused that? But that requires some brains I suppose.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 4:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 3:55pm: Biden played the fiddle while California burned. He did the exact opposite, in fact. What do you think the rapist will do - play golf and tell California to go bugger itself?

https://m3.gab.com/media_attachments/3e/03/a8/3e03a87ef8384b75b66a7e92799159fc.jpg

Madame Mayor won't answer any questions:

https://m3.gab.com/media_attachments/4d/57/07/4d5707738f6300c2365232b9afa141d7.mp4


She can't save herself from being fired for gross incompetence.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 4:27pm:

You could have made an NotTheEnvironment thread about this—why were the fires so more severe than in the past, what ENVIRONMENTAL factors caused that?

Do you have evidence of that? ::)

"1. CAMP FIRE - Butte County
Date: November 2018
Cause: Power lines
Structures destroyed: 18,804
Acres burned: 153,336
Deaths: 86

2. TUBBS FIRE - Napa and Sonoma counties
Date: October 2017
Cause: Electrical
Structures destroyed: 5,636
Acres burned: 36,807
Deaths: 22

3. PALISADES FIRE - Los Angeles County
Date: January 2025
Cause: Under investigation
Structures destroyed: 5,316
Acres burned: 17,234
Deaths: 2

4. EATON FIRE - Los Angeles County
Date: January 2025
Cause: Under investigation
Structures destroyed: 4,000+
Acres burned: 10,600
Deaths: 3

5. TUNNEL FIRE - OAKLAND HILLS - Alameda County
Date: October 1991
Cause: Rekindle
Structures destroyed: 2,900
Acres burned: 1,600
Deaths: 25

6. CEDAR FIRE - San Diego County
Date: October 2003
Cause: Human related
Structures destroyed: 2,820
Acres burned: 273,246
Deaths: 15

7. NORTH COMPLEX - Butte, Plumas, and Yuma counties
Date: August 2020
Cause: Lightning
Structures destroyed: 2,352
Acres burned: 318,935
Deaths: 15

8. VALLEY FIRE - Lake, Napa and Sonoma County
Date: September 2015
Cause: Electrical
Structures destroyed: 1,955
Acres burned: 76,067
Deaths: 4

9. WITCH FIRE - San Diego County
Date: October 2007
Cause: Power lines
Structures destroyed: 1,650
Acres burned: 197,990
Deaths: 2

10. WOOLSEY FIRE - Ventura County
Date: November 2018
Cause: Electrical
Structures destroyed: 1,643
Acres burned: 96,949
Deaths: 3

11. CARR FIRE - Shasta and Trinity counties
Date: July 2018
Cause: Human related
Structures destroyed: 1,614
Acres burned: 229,651
Deaths: 8

12. GLASS FIRE - Sonoma County
Date: October 2017
Cause: Undetermined
Structures destroyed: 1,355
Acres burned: 54,382
Deaths: 3

13. LNU LIGHTNING COMPLEX - Napa, Solano, Sonoma, Yolo, Lake, and Colusa counties
Date: August 2020
Cause: Lightning/Arson
Structures destroyed: 1,491
Acres burned: 86,509
Deaths: 6

14. CZU LIGHTNING COMPLEX - Santa Cruz and San Mateo counties
Date: August 2020
Cause: Lightning
Structures destroyed: 1,490
Acres burned: 86,509
Deaths: 1

15. NUNS FIRE - Sonoma County
Date: October 2017
Cause: Power line
Structures destroyed: 1,355
Acres burned: 54,382
Deaths: 1

16. DIXIE FIRE - Butte, Plumas, Lassen, and Tehama counties
Date: July 2021
Cause: Power line
Structures destroyed: 1,311
Acres burned: 963,309
Deaths: 1

17. THOMAS FIRE - Ventura and Santa Barbara counties
Date: December 2017
Origin: Power line
Structures destroyed: 1,063
Acres burned: 281,893
Deaths: 2

18. CALDOR FIRE - Alpine, Amador, and El Dorado counties
Date: September 2021
Cause: Under investigation
Structures destroyed: 1,003
Acres burned: 221,774
Deaths: 1

19. OLD FIRE - San Bernardino County
Date: October 2003
Cause: Human related
Structures destroyed: 1,003
Acres burned: 91,281
Deaths: 6

20. JONES FIRE - Shasta County
Date: October 1999
Cause: Undetermined
Structures destroyed: 954
Acres burned: 26,200
Deaths: 1"

https://abc7.com/post/biggest-most-destructive-fires-california-history/15787046/

Your hyperbole seems to be getting away from you. Whoa Dobbin. ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 4:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 3:43pm: Warmer, was it? Who knows? Temperature stations at airports are not fit for climate purposes. Only for air traffic control. ;) Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 3:43pm: Sure, it feels hot, but feelings can be deceptive. So you can tell the global average temperature anomaly difference of about 1.5C? Well done that man. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Sorry, I'm confused. Are you saying the thermometers are out or the average temperature has risen by 1.5 degrees?

Either/or, dear. Every other claim you've made in this thread has been debunked, so I can see why you'd hedge on this one.

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 5:43pm:

Are you saying the thermometers are out or the average temperature has risen by 1.5 degrees?

I am saying you can't differentiate between temperatures that small. But I guess you have hot flushes and that's what makes you feel hot.
https://youtu.be/sr_yaZQmRzA


Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 5:43pm:

Every other claim you've made in this thread has been debunked, so I can see why you'd hedge on this one.

Not one has been debunked.

Lack of water does not light fires.
Temperature does not light fires.
Wind does not light fires.


Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 5:43pm:

Sorry, I'm confused.

And nothing has changed in the last 5 years. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 4:03pm:

"Biden’s Beach Binge: 532 Vacation Days in 3.6 Years—Is He Working Enough?" https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-s-beach-binge-532-vacation-days-in-36-years-is-he-working-enough/ar-AA1qf5iG Another one who doesn't hold a fire hose.

Hard to say, dear. That's a claim by the RNC. They're including his foreign trips as head of state and - oh: weekends.

In fact, the Republicans are timing him every time he leaves the White House. Sleepy Joe heads out for a bite to eat with Dr Jill, and they put the stopwatch on.

It makes you wonder which prez they're covering for, no?

Of course, you'd know the answer to that yourself, dear, being no Trump-man and so into the data.

You'd hope the RNC aren't getting their stopwatches from the same place the weathermen get their thermometers from, eh?

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 5:58pm:

and so into the data.

And only goes to July 24 for Biden. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Everybody is calling the mayor and fire chief incompetent except for Karnal, the dirty old sex tourist.



https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS6HAFGUQ/

Los Angeles Times owner Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong hit American voters with an "I told you so" about their elected leaders' response to the L.A. area wildfires.


https://www.aol.com/news/wildfire-disaster-proves-why-competence-010023381.html

More DEI

LA's $750k-a-year water chief Janisse Quiñones 'knew about empty reservoir and broken hydrants' months before fires

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14272399/LA-water-chief-Janisse-Quinones-fire-hydrants-reservoir-failures-Palisades.html

"The president’s time out of the office increased after he dropped out of the presidential race, spending a total of 46 full or partial days in Delaware, Camp David, St. Croix, Nantucket and California from August to the end of the year.

The Caller’s count includes the president’s current trip to St. Croix, which the White House has not released the end date of. In 2023, the president stayed until the second of the next year."

https://dailycaller.com/2024/12/30/joe-biden-vacation-days-2024-delaware-camp-david/

;)

lee wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 5:54pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:43pm: Are you saying the thermometers are out or the average temperature has risen by 1.5 degrees? I am saying you can't differentiate between temperatures that small. But I guess you have hot flushes and that's what makes you feel hot. https://youtu.be/sr_yaZQmRzA Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:43pm: Every other claim you've made in this thread has been debunked, so I can see why you'd hedge on this one. Not one has been debunked. Lack of water does not light fires. Temperature does not light fires. Wind does not light fires. Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:43pm: Sorry, I'm confused. And nothing has changed in the last 5 years. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

It's not small, Lee. On some days and in some places, the temperature rose 5 or 6 degrees above average. On some days it was hotter than any temperature on record. On some days it was so hot people died. Then on other days things cooled down and it was all good.

I imagine you've been told that dozens of times. Still, it took you a while to understand that the LA fires weren't spread by budget cuts or black deputy mayors or tranny firepersons or the fire chief's gender or her difficulty pumping water that didn't exist, but just good old wind and heat.

I thought a volunteer fire fighter would have understood that to begin with, so it just goes to show.

We all have different levels of understanding, no?

lee wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 6:03pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:58pm: and so into the data. And only goes to July 24 for Biden. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

And in and in it goes. Here's his schedule for this week, Lee.

https://rollcall.com/factbase/biden/topic/calendar/

You'll note a good 30% of his time on vacation, checking out the sights in LA and Santa Monica.

Typical.

Better not get too curious, Lee. DL starts back soon.

We'll forget our discussion on presidential vacation time, shall we?

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 6:17pm:

lee wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:54pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:43pm: Are you saying the thermometers are out or the average temperature has risen by 1.5 degrees? I am saying you can't differentiate between temperatures that small. But I guess you have hot flushes and that's what makes you feel hot. https://youtu.be/sr_yaZQmRzA Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:43pm: Every other claim you've made in this thread has been debunked, so I can see why you'd hedge on this one. Not one has been debunked. Lack of water does not light fires. Temperature does not light fires. Wind does not light fires. Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:43pm: Sorry, I'm confused. And nothing has changed in the last 5 years. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D It's not small, Lee. On some days and in some places, the temperature rose 5 or 6 degrees above average. On some days it was hotter than any temperature on record. On some days it was so hot people died. Then on other days things cooled down and it was all good. I imagine you've been told that dozens of times. Still, it took you a while to understand that the LA fires weren't spread by budget cuts or black deputy mayors or tranny firepersons or the fire chief's gender or her difficulty pumping water that didn't exist, but just good old wind and heat. I thought a volunteer fire fighter would have understood that to begin with, so it just goes to show. We all have different levels of understanding, no?

she should speak to gavin  :D :D



ENVIRONMENT
California Gov. Newsom backs dam removal projects aimed at sustaining salmon populations
sanfrancisco
January 30, 2024 / 7:08 AM PST / AP

California Gov. Gavin Newsom is pledging to fast-track more than half a dozen projects by the end of his term to remove or bypass dams that have blocked salmon from returning to the state's chilly mountain streams and acting as the keystone of a complex ecosystem that sustains both economies and spiritual beliefs for tribes.


true to his word, he demolished them  ;)

Gordon wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 6:07pm:

Everybody is calling the mayor and fire chief incompetent except for Karnal, the dirty old sex tourist. https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS6HAFGUQ/

Ee-gad, you're right. I haven't once called her incompetent. Would you like me to do that for you, Gordon?

Sorry, when did the mayor come into this? How many officials are we supposed to be blaming here?

I've lost count.

aquascoot wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 6:36pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 6:17pm: lee wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:54pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:43pm: Are you saying the thermometers are out or the average temperature has risen by 1.5 degrees? I am saying you can't differentiate between temperatures that small. But I guess you have hot flushes and that's what makes you feel hot. https://youtu.be/sr_yaZQmRzA Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:43pm: Every other claim you've made in this thread has been debunked, so I can see why you'd hedge on this one. Not one has been debunked. Lack of water does not light fires. Temperature does not light fires. Wind does not light fires. Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:43pm: Sorry, I'm confused. And nothing has changed in the last 5 years. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D It's not small, Lee. On some days and in some places, the temperature rose 5 or 6 degrees above average. On some days it was hotter than any temperature on record. On some days it was so hot people died. Then on other days things cooled down and it was all good. I imagine you've been told that dozens of times. Still, it took you a while to understand that the LA fires weren't spread by budget cuts or black deputy mayors or tranny firepersons or the fire chief's gender or her difficulty pumping water that didn't exist, but just good old wind and heat. I thought a volunteer fire fighter would have understood that to begin with, so it just goes to show. We all have different levels of understanding, no? she should speak to gavin  :D :D ENVIRONMENT California Gov. Newsom backs dam removal projects aimed at sustaining salmon populations sanfrancisco January 30, 2024 / 7:08 AM PST / AP California Gov. Gavin Newsom is pledging to fast-track more than half a dozen projects by the end of his term to remove or bypass dams that have blocked salmon from returning to the state's chilly mountain streams and acting as the keystone of a complex ecosystem that sustains both economies and spiritual beliefs for tribes. true to his word, he demolished them  ;)

Thanks, Aquascoot. I blame Gavin.

Can I just check what we're blaming him for? The Six Rivers National Forest is over 1000 km away from LA.

They have water - six rivers' worth, I believe.

Gordon wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 6:13pm:

More DEI LA's $750k-a-year water chief Janisse Quiñones 'knew about empty reservoir and broken hydrants' months before fires https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14272399/LA-water-chief-Janisse-Quinones-fire-hydrants-reservoir-failures-Palisades.html

The dead hand of the Biden Harris Newsome Dem  nightmare.

'You want the fire to be but out by someone who looks like you'.

****ing loons.

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 6:17pm:

It's not small, Lee. On some days and in some places, the temperature rose 5 or 6 degrees above average.

Ohh on some days. You mean like one day 28 and another 33?  You do understand averages? Made up of highs and lows. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 6:17pm:

On some days it was hotter than any temperature on record.

Exactly where were these hottest days evah? ;)


Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 6:17pm:

On some days it was so hot people died.

That happens every year. And every year cold kills more than heat. You really are a numpty. ;D ;D ;D ;D


Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 6:17pm:

Still, it took you a while to understand that the LA fires weren't spread by budget cuts or black deputy mayors or tranny firepersons or the fire chief's gender or her difficulty pumping water that didn't exist, but just good old wind and heat.

Can you please post where I said anything about it being about the mayor being black, about tranny firepersons, her gender, or water. The truth is the budget was cut. Especially when you look at the 66million over budget expense the previous year. Budgets approved in late November2024 doesn't allow time to recruit new fire officers, and train them. The union did a deal to lower the number for increased pay. How did that work out? ::)

And also I didn't say anything about the fire spread other than wind causes rapid escalation.


Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 6:17pm:

I thought a volunteer fire fighter would have understood that to begin with, so it just goes to show.

It just goes to show you are completely off your rocker. ;)


Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 6:17pm:

We all have different levels of understanding, no?

Except yours ias so low they had to put the bar underground.
Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 6:32pm:

And in and in it goes. Here's his schedule for this week, Lee.

Oh for 2025. What happened to his holidays July to Dec? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Frank wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 6:52pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 6:13pm: More DEI LA's $750k-a-year water chief Janisse Quiñones 'knew about empty reservoir and broken hydrants' months before fires https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14272399/LA-water-chief-Janisse-Quinones-fire-hydrants-reservoir-failures-Palisades.html The dead hand of the Biden Harris Newsome Dem  nightmare. 'You want the fire to be but out by someone who looks like you'. ****ing loons.

Alas, leftards, this is the level of political analysis now offered up by the cadavers of Ozpol.

Strap in (or on). It's going to be a fun four years, no?

lee wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 7:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 6:17pm: It's not small, Lee. On some days and in some places, the temperature rose 5 or 6 degrees above average. Ohh on some days. You mean like one day 28 and another 33?  You do understand averages? Made up of highs and lows. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 6:17pm: On some days it was hotter than any temperature on record. Exactly where were these hottest days evah? ;) Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 6:17pm: On some days it was so hot people died. That happens every year. And every year cold kills more than heat. You really are a numpty. ;D ;D ;D ;D Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 6:17pm: Still, it took you a while to understand that the LA fires weren't spread by budget cuts or black deputy mayors or tranny firepersons or the fire chief's gender or her difficulty pumping water that didn't exist, but just good old wind and heat. Can you please post where I said anything about it being about the mayor being black, about tranny firepersons, her gender, or water. The truth is the budget was cut. Especially when you look at the 66million over budget expense the previous year. Budgets approved in late November2024 doesn't allow time to recruit new fire officers, and train them. The union did a deal to lower the number for increased pay. How did that work out? ::) And also I didn't say anything about the fire spread other than wind causes rapid escalation. Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 6:17pm: I thought a volunteer fire fighter would have understood that to begin with, so it just goes to show. It just goes to show you are completely off your rocker. ;) Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 6:17pm: We all have different levels of understanding, no? Except yours ias so low they had to put the bar underground. Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 6:32pm: And in and in it goes. Here's his schedule for this week, Lee. Oh for 2025. What happened to his holidays July to Dec? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

All good. Now, over to you to back your quote bomb up.

Cheers, big ears.

White flag accepted as you no longer back up anything you say. Such a numpty. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 7:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 6:52pm: Gordon wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 6:13pm: More DEI LA's $750k-a-year water chief Janisse Quiñones 'knew about empty reservoir and broken hydrants' months before fires https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14272399/LA-water-chief-Janisse-Quinones-fire-hydrants-reservoir-failures-Palisades.html The dead hand of the Biden Harris Newsome Dem  nightmare. 'You want the fire to be but out by someone who looks like you'. ****ing loons. Alas, leftards, this is the level of political analysis now offered up by the cadavers of Ozpol. Strap in (or on). It's going to be a fun four years, no?

Nation Gets Preview Of Gavin Newsom Presidency

https://media.babylonbee.com/articles/6781528753d026781528753d03.jpg

"A flaming hellscape? Ok, good to know that's what we'd have to look forward to," North Dakota resident Mark Larsen said. "Add in rampant taxes, thousands of illegal aliens pouring across the border, and no prosecution for criminals? The country's future has never looked brighter. Brighter because of fire."

Many critics have linked the wildfires to Newsom's governance, or lack thereof, and are grateful to know now what the entire country would look like if he were president. The governor was quick to defend his record.

"My results speak for themselves," Newsom said to reporters. "And when I am president, I can assure every American that the United States will look exactly like California."

At publishing time, Newsom promised that if elected president he would immediately raise taxes, increase regulations to oppressive levels, and add an unprecedented amount to the national debt to give every American the opportunity to know what it feels like to experience the dream of living in California.

Girl Fireman Rushes Into Burning Building To Tell Victim He's Too Heavy But The Real Firemen Will Be Here In 15 Minutes

"Don't worry! I'm here to stand next to you until someone who can help you gets here," Santos was heard shouting to the suffering man. "The real firefighters will be here soon. I can't carry you out of here. I'm a girl. Isn't that awesome?"

While the 95-lb Sandros was unable to lift the man, she nonetheless stayed behind to inform him that the real firefighters would be there soon before clearing out of the building.

"Ms. Sandros displayed courage of the highest caliber in going above and beyond her duty as a girl fireman," said Los Angeles Fire Chief Kristin Crawley in a statement to the press. "We laud her for her outstanding commitment to public safety by presenting such a great example of being a girl fireman in a world full of boy firemen. Great job, Melissa — slay, queen!"

At publishing time, Sandros continued representing the very best girl firemen had to offer by arriving at the site of the Runyon Canyon wildfire to distribute sandwiches to the real firemen.

"Still, the budget picture is far from rosy. Chief Kristin M. Crowley of the Los Angeles Fire Department wrote a memo to the fire commission last month saying the overtime cut was creating “unprecedented operational challenges” — both in fulfilling everyday tasks like payroll processing and long-term planning for major emergencies like big wildfires or earthquakes.

She wrote that specialized programs, including air operations and disaster response, relied on staff working overtime hours and were at risk of becoming less effective. She added that the loss of civilian positions was also squeezing firefighters who had to backfill some of those responsibilities.

In November, Chief Crowley wrote a separate memo to the commission focusing on the bigger picture: a fire department that has not changed much in size since the 1960s despite the city’s population surging by more than a million people since then.

She wrote that the call volume rose by a factor of five between 1969 and 2023, but that the department had not been given the staffing and new fire stations it needs to respond effectively, and that response times were steadily increasing."

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/09/us/la-fire-department-budget-bass.html

So a budget increase but no staffing increases. That makes the union even more culpable by reducing numbers. ::)

lee wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 7:25pm:

White flag accepted as you no longer back up anything you say. Such a numpty. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Oh, you always say that when you're out the door, dear.

When you come back, feel free to back up your thoughts with some substance. I thought your union pay rise point has some legs, I'd be interested in reading about it.

Not sure how a few extra tranny firepersons are going to stop the impact of ever increasing temperatures, but it's a problem we all share, no?

Worse, perhaps, is the political impact of fake news. We saw it in the Florida hurricanes - politicians playing the same games as you and the old boy, literally obstructing federal assistance with an avalanche of fake news. Mort posted articles advising citizens to confront any federal officials dropping in with firearms.

Different attitudes prevail in California, thank God. Still, the problems they face with drought and climate change get turned into these ridiculous strawmen. That's a major political problem.

Covid changed the game, I guess. If the US can't solve simple health and environmental problems without lies being thrown in just for clickbait, they're facing major social breakdown over the next few years.

Remember, Lee, every lie you consume is doing you damage.

I'll be strapping on, dear, as you'd expect.

Frank wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 7:26pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:20pm: Frank wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 6:52pm: Gordon wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 6:13pm: More DEI LA's $750k-a-year water chief Janisse Quiñones 'knew about empty reservoir and broken hydrants' months before fires https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14272399/LA-water-chief-Janisse-Quinones-fire-hydrants-reservoir-failures-Palisades.html The dead hand of the Biden Harris Newsome Dem  nightmare. 'You want the fire to be but out by someone who looks like you'. ****ing loons. Alas, leftards, this is the level of political analysis now offered up by the cadavers of Ozpol. Strap in (or on). It's going to be a fun four years, no? Nation Gets Preview Of Gavin Newsom Presidency https://media.babylonbee.com/articles/6781528753d026781528753d03.jpg "A flaming hellscape? Ok, good to know that's what we'd have to look forward to," North Dakota resident Mark Larsen said. "Add in rampant taxes, thousands of illegal aliens pouring across the border, and no prosecution for criminals? The country's future has never looked brighter. Brighter because of fire." Many critics have linked the wildfires to Newsom's governance, or lack thereof, and are grateful to know now what the entire country would look like if he were president. The governor was quick to defend his record. "My results speak for themselves," Newsom said to reporters. "And when I am president, I can assure every American that the United States will look exactly like California." At publishing time, Newsom promised that if elected president he would immediately raise taxes, increase regulations to oppressive levels, and add an unprecedented amount to the national debt to give every American the opportunity to know what it feels like to experience the dream of living in California.

Newsome's not running for prez, dear. He's trying to manage one of the biggest disasters in years.

You demonstrate the point perfectly. Cadaver?

More of a ventriloquist's dummy. It's uncanny - we can't even see Vlad's lips move.

lee wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 7:36pm:

"Still, the budget picture is far from rosy. Chief Kristin M. Crowley of the Los Angeles Fire Department wrote a memo to the fire commission last month saying the overtime cut was creating “unprecedented operational challenges” — both in fulfilling everyday tasks like payroll processing and long-term planning for major emergencies like big wildfires or earthquakes. She wrote that specialized programs, including air operations and disaster response, relied on staff working overtime hours and were at risk of becoming less effective. She added that the loss of civilian positions was also squeezing firefighters who had to backfill some of those responsibilities. In November, Chief Crowley wrote a separate memo to the commission focusing on the bigger picture: a fire department that has not changed much in size since the 1960s despite the city’s population surging by more than a million people since then. She wrote that the call volume rose by a factor of five between 1969 and 2023, but that the department had not been given the staffing and new fire stations it needs to respond effectively, and that response times were steadily increasing." https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/09/us/la-fire-department-budget-bass.html So a budget increase but no staffing increases. That makes the union even more culpable by reducing numbers. ::)

Thanks, Lee. Sorry, but how are the union culpable?

You left out your article's headline.

Any reason why, dear?

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 8:04pm:

lee wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:36pm: "Still, the budget picture is far from rosy. Chief Kristin M. Crowley of the Los Angeles Fire Department wrote a memo to the fire commission last month saying the overtime cut was creating “unprecedented operational challenges” — both in fulfilling everyday tasks like payroll processing and long-term planning for major emergencies like big wildfires or earthquakes. She wrote that specialized programs, including air operations and disaster response, relied on staff working overtime hours and were at risk of becoming less effective. She added that the loss of civilian positions was also squeezing firefighters who had to backfill some of those responsibilities. In November, Chief Crowley wrote a separate memo to the commission focusing on the bigger picture: a fire department that has not changed much in size since the 1960s despite the city’s population surging by more than a million people since then. She wrote that the call volume rose by a factor of five between 1969 and 2023, but that the department had not been given the staffing and new fire stations it needs to respond effectively, and that response times were steadily increasing." https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/09/us/la-fire-department-budget-bass.html So a budget increase but no staffing increases. That makes the union even more culpable by reducing numbers. ::) Thanks, Lee. Sorry, but how are the union culpable? You left out your article's headline. Any reason why, dear?

Oh look - he's gone.

Frank wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 7:29pm:

Girl Fireman Rushes Into Burning Building To Tell Victim He's Too Heavy But The Real Firemen Will Be Here In 15 Minutes "Don't worry! I'm here to stand next to you until someone who can help you gets here," Santos was heard shouting to the suffering man. "The real firefighters will be here soon. I can't carry you out of here. I'm a girl. Isn't that awesome?" While the 95-lb Sandros was unable to lift the man, she nonetheless stayed behind to inform him that the real firefighters would be there soon before clearing out of the building. "Ms. Sandros displayed courage of the highest caliber in going above and beyond her duty as a girl fireman," said Los Angeles Fire Chief Kristin Crawley in a statement to the press. "We laud her for her outstanding commitment to public safety by presenting such a great example of being a girl fireman in a world full of boy firemen. Great job, Melissa — slay, queen!" At publishing time, Sandros continued representing the very best girl firemen had to offer by arriving at the site of the Runyon Canyon wildfire to distribute sandwiches to the real firemen.

It's diversity, equity and inclusion -

they can't advertise for who they really want -

big, burly, strong, fit firemen.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 8:13pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:29pm: Girl Fireman Rushes Into Burning Building To Tell Victim He's Too Heavy But The Real Firemen Will Be Here In 15 Minutes "Don't worry! I'm here to stand next to you until someone who can help you gets here," Santos was heard shouting to the suffering man. "The real firefighters will be here soon. I can't carry you out of here. I'm a girl. Isn't that awesome?" While the 95-lb Sandros was unable to lift the man, she nonetheless stayed behind to inform him that the real firefighters would be there soon before clearing out of the building. "Ms. Sandros displayed courage of the highest caliber in going above and beyond her duty as a girl fireman," said Los Angeles Fire Chief Kristin Crawley in a statement to the press. "We laud her for her outstanding commitment to public safety by presenting such a great example of being a girl fireman in a world full of boy firemen. Great job, Melissa — slay, queen!" At publishing time, Sandros continued representing the very best girl firemen had to offer by arriving at the site of the Runyon Canyon wildfire to distribute sandwiches to the real firemen. It's diversity, equity and inclusion - they can't advertise for who they really want - big, burly, strong, fit firemen.

Is that who they want or who you want?

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 8:13pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:29pm: Girl Fireman Rushes Into Burning Building To Tell Victim He's Too Heavy But The Real Firemen Will Be Here In 15 Minutes "Don't worry! I'm here to stand next to you until someone who can help you gets here," Santos was heard shouting to the suffering man. "The real firefighters will be here soon. I can't carry you out of here. I'm a girl. Isn't that awesome?" While the 95-lb Sandros was unable to lift the man, she nonetheless stayed behind to inform him that the real firefighters would be there soon before clearing out of the building. "Ms. Sandros displayed courage of the highest caliber in going above and beyond her duty as a girl fireman," said Los Angeles Fire Chief Kristin Crawley in a statement to the press. "We laud her for her outstanding commitment to public safety by presenting such a great example of being a girl fireman in a world full of boy firemen. Great job, Melissa — slay, queen!" At publishing time, Sandros continued representing the very best girl firemen had to offer by arriving at the site of the Runyon Canyon wildfire to distribute sandwiches to the real firemen. It's diversity, equity and inclusion - they can't advertise for who they really want - big, burly, strong, fit firemen.

Incompetence, why would you send someone into danger when they can't do anything. Why risk her life when it has no purpose.

Leroy wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 8:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:13pm: Frank wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:29pm: Girl Fireman Rushes Into Burning Building To Tell Victim He's Too Heavy But The Real Firemen Will Be Here In 15 Minutes "Don't worry! I'm here to stand next to you until someone who can help you gets here," Santos was heard shouting to the suffering man. "The real firefighters will be here soon. I can't carry you out of here. I'm a girl. Isn't that awesome?" While the 95-lb Sandros was unable to lift the man, she nonetheless stayed behind to inform him that the real firefighters would be there soon before clearing out of the building. "Ms. Sandros displayed courage of the highest caliber in going above and beyond her duty as a girl fireman," said Los Angeles Fire Chief Kristin Crawley in a statement to the press. "We laud her for her outstanding commitment to public safety by presenting such a great example of being a girl fireman in a world full of boy firemen. Great job, Melissa — slay, queen!" At publishing time, Sandros continued representing the very best girl firemen had to offer by arriving at the site of the Runyon Canyon wildfire to distribute sandwiches to the real firemen. It's diversity, equity and inclusion - they can't advertise for who they really want - big, burly, strong, fit firemen. Incompetence, why would you send someone into danger when they can't do anything. Why risk her life when it has no purpose.

Instead they get 95lb girls.

Leroy wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 8:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:13pm: Frank wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:29pm: Girl Fireman Rushes Into Burning Building To Tell Victim He's Too Heavy But The Real Firemen Will Be Here In 15 Minutes "Don't worry! I'm here to stand next to you until someone who can help you gets here," Santos was heard shouting to the suffering man. "The real firefighters will be here soon. I can't carry you out of here. I'm a girl. Isn't that awesome?" While the 95-lb Sandros was unable to lift the man, she nonetheless stayed behind to inform him that the real firefighters would be there soon before clearing out of the building. "Ms. Sandros displayed courage of the highest caliber in going above and beyond her duty as a girl fireman," said Los Angeles Fire Chief Kristin Crawley in a statement to the press. "We laud her for her outstanding commitment to public safety by presenting such a great example of being a girl fireman in a world full of boy firemen. Great job, Melissa — slay, queen!" At publishing time, Sandros continued representing the very best girl firemen had to offer by arriving at the site of the Runyon Canyon wildfire to distribute sandwiches to the real firemen. It's diversity, equity and inclusion - they can't advertise for who they really want - big, burly, strong, fit firemen. Incompetence, why would you send someone into danger when they can't do anything. Why risk her life when it has no purpose.

Because it"s a trick article posted by the old boy.

Why would a fire department employ people who can't do the job? They'd be endangering employee safety.  Lee's union wouldn't be too happy then, dear.

I'm sure Lee sympathises with their cause - you know, as a volunteer fireman - sorry, person (preferred pronouns he/him).

lee wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 5:54pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:43pm: Are you saying the thermometers are out or the average temperature has risen by 1.5 degrees? I am saying you can't differentiate between temperatures that small. But I guess you have hot flushes and that's what makes you feel hot. https://youtu.be/sr_yaZQmRzA Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:43pm: Every other claim you've made in this thread has been debunked, so I can see why you'd hedge on this one. Not one has been debunked. Lack of water does not light fires. Temperature does not light fires. Wind does not light fires. Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:43pm: Sorry, I'm confused. And nothing has changed in the last 5 years. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Yes it has. Insurance companies are either signficantly raising their premiums or not offering insurance at all in high risk areas. Do they know something that you don't ??

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 8:55pm:

Yes it has. Insurance companies are either signficantly raising their premiums or not offering insurance at all in high risk areas. Do they know something that you don't ??

yes - what percentage of households were insured?    :-/

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 7:52pm:

lee wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:25pm: White flag accepted as you no longer back up anything you say. Such a numpty. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Oh, you always say that when you're out the door, dear. When you come back, feel free to back up your thoughts with some substance. I thought your union pay rise point has some legs, I'd be interested in reading about it. Not sure how a few extra tranny firepersons are going to stop the impact of ever increasing temperatures, but it's a problem we all share, no? Worse, perhaps, is the political impact of fake news. We saw it in the Florida hurricanes - politicians playing the same games as you and the old boy, literally obstructing federal assistance with an avalanche of fake news. Mort posted articles advising citizens to confront any federal officials dropping in with firearms. Different attitudes prevail in California, thank God. Still, the problems they face with drought and climate change get turned into these ridiculous strawmen. That's a major political problem. Covid changed the game, I guess. If the US can't solve simple health and environmental problems without lies being thrown in just for clickbait, they're facing major social breakdown over the next few years. Remember, Lee, every lie you consume is doing you damage. I'll be strapping on, dear, as you'd expect.

ah no,

newsom also stopped all logging and locked up the forrests so they burn like crazy,

greenies have no idea how to manage fuel loads

old billy down the road from my place lights a fire every year we have too much fuel.

even the council dont mind

and this is the "raging inferno' that goes thru my place

california needs a few more billys and few less gavins

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Elon Musk Notices Something About the Wildfires No One Noticed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZUXXaV3o-s




THIS is Why People Think 'The Homeless' May Have Started the California Fires

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=letK32aZ81g




LA fires latest: wildfires become most destructive in city’s history

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO_53l1Rz30

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 8:04pm:

Sorry, but how are the union culpable?

The union entered an agreement to reduce numbers for more pay.

"The fires erupted a few months after the Los Angeles Fire Department’s budget was slashed by $17.6 million, to $819 million. The cuts led to the elimination of 58 vacant positions."

...

"And some Los Angeles city leaders are in the process of trying to claw back positions that were removed in the recent budget. That would include positions that support the maintenance of firefighting rigs. Right now, only 78% of the department’s fleet is operational, but its goal should be 90%, according to a report from Crowley seeking restoration of those positions."

https://lapublicpress.org/2025/01/lafd-budget-fires-cut-money-los-angeles/


Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 8:04pm:

Any reason why, dear?

The article was too long. Couldn't find it?

There were 79 civilian staff as well as 58 firefighter positions lost. Only the 58 firefighter positions were the responsibility of the Union. Or do you think they cut despite union pressure to keep them?

People in California may not be covered by insurance.
One company has only $385 million of funds but the claims
are in the 10s of $billions.
The insurance companies must be unregulated scammers?

Jump to 16:50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO_53l1Rz30

https://i.postimg.cc/BQrTXttv/lookhowpretty.jpg

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DEI is deadly.
PC is deadly.
Woke is deadly.

Los Angeles has been ‘badly let down’ by its government at ‘every level’


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNpJ-kNQEko

aquascoot wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 9:05pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:52pm: lee wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:25pm: White flag accepted as you no longer back up anything you say. Such a numpty. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Oh, you always say that when you're out the door, dear. When you come back, feel free to back up your thoughts with some substance. I thought your union pay rise point has some legs, I'd be interested in reading about it. Not sure how a few extra tranny firepersons are going to stop the impact of ever increasing temperatures, but it's a problem we all share, no? Worse, perhaps, is the political impact of fake news. We saw it in the Florida hurricanes - politicians playing the same games as you and the old boy, literally obstructing federal assistance with an avalanche of fake news. Mort posted articles advising citizens to confront any federal officials dropping in with firearms. Different attitudes prevail in California, thank God. Still, the problems they face with drought and climate change get turned into these ridiculous strawmen. That's a major political problem. Covid changed the game, I guess. If the US can't solve simple health and environmental problems without lies being thrown in just for clickbait, they're facing major social breakdown over the next few years. Remember, Lee, every lie you consume is doing you damage. I'll be strapping on, dear, as you'd expect. ah no, newsom also stopped all logging and locked up the forrests so they burn like crazy, greenies have no idea how to manage fuel loads old billy down the road from my place lights a fire every year we have too much fuel. even the council dont mind and this is the "raging inferno' that goes thru my place california needs a few more billys and few less gavins

Thanks, Aquascoot. Which LA forest clearing and logging did Newscum ban?

In fact, which forests do they do they logging in Southern California at all?

Not Six Rivers again, is it?

Frank wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 10:07pm:

DEI is deadly. PC is deadly. Woke is deadly.

Oh look, the old boy's got a new tattoo.

How cute. I hope they got the spelling right, old chap.

How thoroughly deadly.

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lee wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 9:25pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:04pm: Sorry, but how are the union culpable? The union entered an agreement to reduce numbers for more pay. "The fires erupted a few months after the Los Angeles Fire Department’s budget was slashed by $17.6 million, to $819 million. The cuts led to the elimination of 58 vacant positions." ... "And some Los Angeles city leaders are in the process of trying to claw back positions that were removed in the recent budget. That would include positions that support the maintenance of firefighting rigs. Right now, only 78% of the department’s fleet is operational, but its goal should be 90%, according to a report from Crowley seeking restoration of those positions." https://lapublicpress.org/2025/01/lafd-budget-fires-cut-money-los-angeles/ Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:04pm: Any reason why, dear? The article was too long. Couldn't find it? There were 79 civilian staff as well as 58 firefighter positions lost. Only the 58 firefighter positions were the responsibility of the Union. Or do you think they cut despite union pressure to keep them?

Thanks, Lee. You may have misunderstood the question.

How are the union culpable for the fires?

Cheers.

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 1:13am:

How are the union culpable for the fires?

I never said the fires. I said they reduced their numbers. So tell me how to effectively fight fires with fewer personnel.  ::)

You really are a clutz.

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 1:13am:

Thanks, Lee. You may have misunderstood the question. How are the union culpable for the fires? Cheers.

10 Things That Caused The California Wildfires

To streamline the finger-pointing process, The Babylon Bee has compiled the following list of likely causes of the California wildfires:


Lack of diversity in the fire department: Nothing causes more devastation than placing the most qualified candidates in positions based on merit.

Capitalism: When was the last time you heard about wildfires happening in a socialist utopia? Exactly.

Plastic straws: The effects of you drinking your iced frappés through plastic straws can be felt across the country.

Steve: That guy is bad news.

January 6: Further evidence that the attempted insurrection is a wound that will never heal.

Racism: The flames of a wildfire are nothing compared to the scourge of white supremacy.

Billy Joel: He claims he didn't start the fire. But we know better.

The Jews: Something bad happened? You know who to blame.

Negative reviews of The Acolyte: None of this would have happened if Star Wars fans weren't so filled with hate.

Donald Trump: They tried to warn us about him. Now look what happened.

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 12:46pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 1:13am: Thanks, Lee. You may have misunderstood the question. How are the union culpable for the fires? Cheers. 10 Things That Caused The California Wildfires The Jews: Something bad happened? You know who to blame.

Repugnant MAGA Republican Marjorie Taylor Greene believes that to be true.

She says Californian wildfires are started by Jewish space lasers.

https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.3441327229.3410/bg,f8f8f8-flat,750x,075,f-pad,750x1000,f8f8f8.jpg

lee wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 12:43pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 1:13am: How are the union culpable for the fires? I never said the fires. I said they reduced their numbers. So tell me how to effectively fight fires with fewer personnel.  ::) You really are a clutz.

You said, did you? Where have you shown how the union have reduced the number of LGBITQ firepersons?

We'll reserve the judgements for your response thanks, Lee.

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 12:46pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 1:13am: Thanks, Lee. You may have misunderstood the question. How are the union culpable for the fires? Cheers. 10 Things That Caused The California Wildfires To streamline the finger-pointing process, The Babylon Bee has compiled the following list of likely causes of the California wildfires: Lack of diversity in the fire department: Nothing causes more devastation than placing the most qualified candidates in positions based on merit. Capitalism: When was the last time you heard about wildfires happening in a socialist utopia? Exactly. Plastic straws: The effects of you drinking your iced frappés through plastic straws can be felt across the country. Steve: That guy is bad news. January 6: Further evidence that the attempted insurrection is a wound that will never heal. Racism: The flames of a wildfire are nothing compared to the scourge of white supremacy. Billy Joel: He claims he didn't start the fire. But we know better. The Jews: Something bad happened? You know who to blame. Negative reviews of The Acolyte: None of this would have happened if Star Wars fans weren't so filled with hate. Donald Trump: They tried to warn us about him. Now look what happened.

Stick to the memes, old boy. Have you blamed the Jigaboos yet? I imagine they were concocting some primitive black magic over in deepest darkest Ghana, no?

The Muselman - you've been rather quiet on him of late. Always absolutely never ever, remember.

The trannies and hommers? Strange. We remember when you were so supportive, back when the Muselman was hanging them off cranes.

Of course you won't blame the relentless rise in temperature, we get that, but do you know?

Nor's Elon. How about that? He's suddenly retweeting DL's talking points, banning all mention of global warming on X.

That's what joining the Trump train does to you, ja? The full lobotomy.

How does it feeeeel?

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 2:28pm:

Where have you shown how the union have reduced the number of LGBITQ firepersons?

Another attempt at deflection via obfuscation. What a tosser. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 3:26pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:28pm: Where have you shown how the union have reduced the number of LGBITQ firepersons? Another attempt at deflection via obfuscation. What a tosser. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Right. You've been given the opportunity three times and declined.

There were no cuts to firefighting staff in the 2024 budget and three classes of new recruits were funded.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/09/us/la-fire-department-budget-bass.html

So now we know. Union negotiations had nothing to do with any cuts to front line staff or any of the other stuff you made up.

We have it on record. You're fake news.
 
You can go now, Lee.

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 4:18pm:

lee wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:26pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:28pm: Where have you shown how the union have reduced the number of LGBITQ firepersons? Another attempt at deflection via obfuscation. What a tosser. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Right. You've been given the opportunity three times and declined.

  :'( :'(

Cruel world!   :'(

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 4:18pm:

lee wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:26pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:28pm: Where have you shown how the union have reduced the number of LGBITQ firepersons? Another attempt at deflection via obfuscation. What a tosser. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Right. You've been given the opportunity three times and declined. There were no cuts to firefighting staff in the 2024 budget and three classes of new recruits were funded. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/09/us/la-fire-department-budget-bass.html So now we know. Union negotiations had nothing to do with any cuts to front line staff or any of the other stuff you made up. We have it on record. You're fake news.   You can go now, Lee.

What would Frank do?

a) change the subject or,

b) start calling someone names in another thread?

:-/

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 4:27pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 4:18pm: lee wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:26pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:28pm: Where have you shown how the union have reduced the number of LGBITQ firepersons? Another attempt at deflection via obfuscation. What a tosser. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Right. You've been given the opportunity three times and declined. There were no cuts to firefighting staff in the 2024 budget and three classes of new recruits were funded. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/09/us/la-fire-department-budget-bass.html So now we know. Union negotiations had nothing to do with any cuts to front line staff or any of the other stuff you made up. We have it on record. You're fake news.   You can go now, Lee. What would Frank do? a) change the subject or, b) start calling someone names in another thread? :-/

The old boy?

Oh, that's easy. He'd exploit an environmental disaster to regurgitate his DL's lies.

Then, after he's caught out, he'd follow through to steps b & c, before throwing a hissy and leaving the thread for good - poof!

Intelligence and integrity, innit.

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 4:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 4:27pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 4:18pm: lee wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:26pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:28pm: Where have you shown how the union have reduced the number of LGBITQ firepersons? Another attempt at deflection via obfuscation. What a tosser. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Right. You've been given the opportunity three times and declined. There were no cuts to firefighting staff in the 2024 budget and three classes of new recruits were funded. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/09/us/la-fire-department-budget-bass.html So now we know. Union negotiations had nothing to do with any cuts to front line staff or any of the other stuff you made up. We have it on record. You're fake news.   You can go now, Lee. What would Frank do? a) change the subject or, b) start calling someone names in another thread? :-/ The old boy? Oh, that's easy. He'd exploit an environmental disaster to regurgitate his DL's lies. Then, after he's caught out, he'd follow through to steps b & c, before throwing a hissy and leaving the thread for good - poof! Intelligence and integrity, innit.

Gavin Newsom Cut $100M From Fire Prevention Budget Before California Fires

Newsweek
https://www.newsweek.com/gavin-newsom-cut-100m-fire-prevention-budget-before-california-fires-2012980

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 4:18pm:

There were no cuts to firefighting staff in the 2024 budget and three classes of new recruits were funded. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/09/us/la-fire-department-budget-bass.html

There is nothing there about firefighter cuts or otherwise. Making it up as you go along. Very brave of you. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 4:18pm:

So now we know. Union negotiations had nothing to do with any cuts to front line staff or any of the other stuff you made up.

Nope. You haven't shown that at all. You have shown nothing. Just a clutz. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 4:18pm:

We have it on record.

Then produce the record where it says no firefighter cuts. ;)

BTW - "The LAFD has hired, filled, and graduated hundreds of new firefighters and paramedics, bolstering their ranks with dedicated individuals ready to serve Los Angeles. "

https://mayor.lacity.gov/news/delivering-results-2024-mayor-bass-lapd-lafd-and-community-based-safety-solutions-deliver

How can you fill positions if there were no vacancies? ;)

"The cuts, Crowley wrote in a memo from July 2024, resulted from eliminating 58 positions, adjusting sworn salary accounts, and removing one-time expenses."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-wildfires-los-angeles-fire-chief-budget-cuts/

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 4:50pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 4:40pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 4:27pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 4:18pm: lee wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:26pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:28pm: Where have you shown how the union have reduced the number of LGBITQ firepersons? Another attempt at deflection via obfuscation. What a tosser. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Right. You've been given the opportunity three times and declined. There were no cuts to firefighting staff in the 2024 budget and three classes of new recruits were funded. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/09/us/la-fire-department-budget-bass.html So now we know. Union negotiations had nothing to do with any cuts to front line staff or any of the other stuff you made up. We have it on record. You're fake news.   You can go now, Lee. What would Frank do? a) change the subject or, b) start calling someone names in another thread? :-/ The old boy? Oh, that's easy. He'd exploit an environmental disaster to regurgitate his DL's lies. Then, after he's caught out, he'd follow through to steps b & c, before throwing a hissy and leaving the thread for good - poof! Intelligence and integrity, innit. Gavin Newsom Cut $100M From Fire Prevention Budget Before California Fires Newsweek https://www.newsweek.com/gavin-newsom-cut-100m-fire-prevention-budget-before-california-fires-2012980

However overall, the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (CAL FIRE)'s wildfire protection budget has increased sharply from $1.1 billion in 2014 to $3 billion in 2023, much of which took place after Newsom became governor in 2019.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 5:13pm:

However overall, the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (CAL FIRE)'s wildfire protection budget has increased sharply from $1.1 billion in 2014 to $3 billion in 2023, much of which took place after Newsom became governor in 2019.

So he gave in 2023 and took it back in 2024. How noble of him. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 5:13pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 4:50pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 4:40pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 4:27pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 4:18pm: lee wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:26pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:28pm: Where have you shown how the union have reduced the number of LGBITQ firepersons? Another attempt at deflection via obfuscation. What a tosser. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Right. You've been given the opportunity three times and declined. There were no cuts to firefighting staff in the 2024 budget and three classes of new recruits were funded. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/09/us/la-fire-department-budget-bass.html So now we know. Union negotiations had nothing to do with any cuts to front line staff or any of the other stuff you made up. We have it on record. You're fake news.   You can go now, Lee. What would Frank do? a) change the subject or, b) start calling someone names in another thread? :-/ The old boy? Oh, that's easy. He'd exploit an environmental disaster to regurgitate his DL's lies. Then, after he's caught out, he'd follow through to steps b & c, before throwing a hissy and leaving the thread for good - poof! Intelligence and integrity, innit. Gavin Newsom Cut $100M From Fire Prevention Budget Before California Fires Newsweek https://www.newsweek.com/gavin-newsom-cut-100m-fire-prevention-budget-before-california-fires-2012980 However overall, the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (CAL FIRE)'s wildfire protection budget has increased sharply from $1.1 billion in 2014 to $3 billion in 2023, much of which took place after Newsom became governor in 2019.

Uncanny, isn't it? Literally everything the old boy says is proven wrong in 30 seconds.

And not just wrong - out by billions.

Explains why he's taken to hiding behind inscrutable Babylon Bee posts. You couldn't make it up, eh?

Not satire.

lee wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 5:13pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 4:18pm: There were no cuts to firefighting staff in the 2024 budget and three classes of new recruits were funded. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/09/us/la-fire-department-budget-bass.html There is nothing there about firefighter cuts or otherwise. Making it up as you go along. Very brave of you. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 4:18pm: So now we know. Union negotiations had nothing to do with any cuts to front line staff or any of the other stuff you made up. Nope. You haven't shown that at all. You have shown nothing. Just a clutz. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 4:18pm: We have it on record. Then produce the record where it says no firefighter cuts. ;) BTW - "The LAFD has hired, filled, and graduated hundreds of new firefighters and paramedics, bolstering their ranks with dedicated individuals ready to serve Los Angeles. " https://mayor.lacity.gov/news/delivering-results-2024-mayor-bass-lapd-lafd-and-community-based-safety-solutions-deliver How can you fill positions if there were no vacancies? ;) "The cuts, Crowley wrote in a memo from July 2024, resulted from eliminating 58 positions, adjusting sworn salary accounts, and removing one-time expenses." https://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-wildfires-los-angeles-fire-chief-budget-cuts/

Read the memo in your own link, Lee: funding for 220 new recruits.

Now, can you explain what the union has to do with that?

Look, we'll put you out of your misery now, okay? You've had two days. You've got nothing.

Get well soon, dear.

Or not. The old boy's been dead for years and he's never been happier.

lee wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 5:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 5:13pm: However overall, the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (CAL FIRE)'s wildfire protection budget has increased sharply from $1.1 billion in 2014 to $3 billion in 2023, much of which took place after Newsom became governor in 2019. So he gave in 2023 and took it back in 2024. How noble of him. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Yes, how noble of him to triple the budget the old boy says he cut.

Year 9 maths, innit.

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 5:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 5:13pm: Frank wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 4:50pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 4:40pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 4:27pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 4:18pm: lee wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:26pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:28pm: Where have you shown how the union have reduced the number of LGBITQ firepersons? Another attempt at deflection via obfuscation. What a tosser. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Right. You've been given the opportunity three times and declined. There were no cuts to firefighting staff in the 2024 budget and three classes of new recruits were funded. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/09/us/la-fire-department-budget-bass.html So now we know. Union negotiations had nothing to do with any cuts to front line staff or any of the other stuff you made up. We have it on record. You're fake news.   You can go now, Lee. What would Frank do? a) change the subject or, b) start calling someone names in another thread? :-/ The old boy? Oh, that's easy. He'd exploit an environmental disaster to regurgitate his DL's lies. Then, after he's caught out, he'd follow through to steps b & c, before throwing a hissy and leaving the thread for good - poof! Intelligence and integrity, innit. Gavin Newsom Cut $100M From Fire Prevention Budget Before California Fires Newsweek https://www.newsweek.com/gavin-newsom-cut-100m-fire-prevention-budget-before-california-fires-2012980 However overall, the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (CAL FIRE)'s wildfire protection budget has increased sharply from $1.1 billion in 2014 to $3 billion in 2023, much of which took place after Newsom became governor in 2019. Uncanny, isn't it? Literally everything the old boy says is proven wrong in 30 seconds. And not just wrong - out by billions. Explains why he's taken to hiding behind inscrutable Babylon Bee posts. You couldn't make it up, eh? Not satire.

And that was from his own link!

They just read the headlines - never the full story.

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 5:37pm:

Read the memo in your own link, Lee: funding for 220 new recruits. Now, can you explain what the union has to do with that?

Absolutely nothing to do with the union.

To which link were you referring? Mayor bass? Doesn't say anything about 220.

NYT article? No mention of 220.
::)

Money stolen from Californians to pay for Anti Trump smear campaigns for the selfish Democrat party

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 5:41pm:

Yes, how noble of him to triple the budget the old boy says he cut.

So $100 million doesn't matter. They must have been overfunded in the first place. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 5:41pm:

lee wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 5:22pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 5:13pm: However overall, the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (CAL FIRE)'s wildfire protection budget has increased sharply from $1.1 billion in 2014 to $3 billion in 2023, much of which took place after Newsom became governor in 2019. So he gave in 2023 and took it back in 2024. How noble of him. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Yes, how noble of him to triple the budget the old boy says he cut. Year 9 maths, innit.

Perhaps he dropped out in year 8   :-/

lee wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 5:47pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 5:37pm: Read the memo in your own link, Lee: funding for 220 new recruits. Now, can you explain what the union has to do with that? Absolutely nothing to do with the union. To which link were you referring? Mayor bass? Doesn't say anything about 220. NYT article? No mention of 220. ::)

I see.

No worries. Come back when you've got your next lie ready, Lee.

You know what to do.

Democrats saw California as money to burn.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 5:52pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 5:41pm: lee wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 5:22pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 5:13pm: However overall, the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (CAL FIRE)'s wildfire protection budget has increased sharply from $1.1 billion in 2014 to $3 billion in 2023, much of which took place after Newsom became governor in 2019. So he gave in 2023 and took it back in 2024. How noble of him. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Yes, how noble of him to triple the budget the old boy says he cut. Year 9 maths, innit. Perhaps he dropped out in year 8   :-/

No no, I'll have you know he attended the pwestigious. Exceedingly high standards.

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 5:54pm:

Come back when you've got your next lie ready, Lee.

Where did I say Unions had hiring rights. I want you to be clear. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Since you can't back up your lies I am outta here. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 5:47pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 5:37pm: Read the memo in your own link, Lee: funding for 220 new recruits. Now, can you explain what the union has to do with that? Absolutely nothing to do with the union. To which link were you referring? Mayor bass? Doesn't say anything about 220. NYT article? No mention of 220. ::)

"The current fiscal year budget included money to hire 220 firefighters in three new academy classes at the Valley Recruit Training Academy, according to city documents."

Jasin wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 5:56pm:

Democrats saw California as money to burn.

Yes, dear, all those taxpayer funds wasted on rainbow wigs, feather boas and gender reassignment surgery.

Check out the budget Lee posted.

Despicable stuff, no?

lee wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 5:58pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 5:54pm: Come back when you've got your next lie ready, Lee. Where did I say Unions had hiring rights. I want you to be clear. ;D ;D ;D ;D Since you can't back up your lies I am outta here. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

There he goes, see you later.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 6:00pm:

"The current fiscal year budget included money to hire 220 firefighters in three new academy classes at the Valley Recruit Training Academy, according to city documents."

SO which link? Or are you too shy to say? ;)

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 6:02pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 5:56pm: Democrats saw California as money to burn. Yes, dear, all those taxpayer funds wasted on rainbow wigs, feather boas and gender reassignment surgery. Check out the budget Lee posted.

Oh, I did.

Thanks Lee.

"Overall, the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (CAL FIRE)'s wildfire protection budget has increased sharply from $1.1 billion in 2014 to $3 billion in 2023, much of which took place after Newsom became governor in 2019."

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 6:03pm:

"Overall, the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (CAL FIRE)'s wildfire protection budget has increased sharply from $1.1 billion in 2014 to $3 billion in 2023, much of which took place after Newsom became governor in 2019." Posted by: lee  Mark & Quote Quote

And he still cut $100 million from the budget in 2024. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

the resevoir was empty
the mayor was in africa
newsom refuses to take any responsibility
a homeless guy with a blowtorch who was subject to a citizen arrest and who citizens caught starting fires was let go
the fire chief has a video saying people want to be served by a firefighter who "looks like them"
looters have gone nutz (probably because newsom allows looting up to 900 dollars as acceptable)
in fact the left encourage looting of businesses

two of the biggest podcasters (with audiences way in excess of the mainstream)  are rogan and shapiro who left california because of democrat incompetance

trump should not lift a finger to help these ungrateful hollywood elites
he should tell them to get onto to gavin newsom and nancy pelosi who are their 'crew"

all in all, one would have to say this is karma coming back to bite the woke left imbeciles of california in the ass.
i'm sure thats how all the people in "real" america see it

they should recruit ron de santis to run the place
someone with a brain

aquascoot wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 6:06pm:

trump should not lift a finger to help these ungrateful hollywood elites

Nobody expects him to.

Trump helps Trump - nobody else.

I suggest you study your rapist and convicted criminal for another 5 years.

You appear to have learnt nothing.

(Did James Wood lose his house?  Thoughts & prayers)

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 6:03pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 6:02pm: Jasin wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 5:56pm: Democrats saw California as money to burn. Yes, dear, all those taxpayer funds wasted on rainbow wigs, feather boas and gender reassignment surgery. Check out the budget Lee posted. Oh, I did. Thanks Lee. "Overall, the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (CAL FIRE)'s wildfire protection budget has increased sharply from $1.1 billion in 2014 to $3 billion in 2023, much of which took place after Newsom became governor in 2019."

Good to know, Greggery. So now Lee's posted the budget memo from the fire department itself, can you say how much was allocated to LGBTQI+ Outreach?

The old boy was about to explain, but he had a pressing engagement elsewhere.

aquascoot wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 6:06pm:

the resevoir was empty the mayor was in africa newsom refuses to take any responsibility a homeless guy with a blowtorch who was subject to a citizen arrest and who citizens caught starting fires was let go the fire chief has a video saying people want to be served by a firefighter who "looks like them" looters have gone nutz (probably because newsom allows looting up to 900 dollars as acceptable) in fact the left encourage looting of businesses two of the biggest podcasters (with audiences way in excess of the mainstream)  are rogan and shapiro who left california because of democrat incompetance trump should not lift a finger to help these ungrateful hollywood elites he should tell them to get onto to gavin newsom and nancy pelosi who are their 'crew" all in all, one would have to say this is karma coming back to bite the woke left imbeciles of california in the ass. i'm sure thats how all the people in "real" america see it they should recruit ron de santis to run the place someone with a brain

Didn't Karnal say it was the Jigaboos who did it?

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 6:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 6:03pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 6:02pm: Jasin wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 5:56pm: Democrats saw California as money to burn. Yes, dear, all those taxpayer funds wasted on rainbow wigs, feather boas and gender reassignment surgery. Check out the budget Lee posted. Oh, I did. Thanks Lee. "Overall, the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (CAL FIRE)'s wildfire protection budget has increased sharply from $1.1 billion in 2014 to $3 billion in 2023, much of which took place after Newsom became governor in 2019." Good to know, Greggery. So now Lee's posted the budget memo from the fire department itself, can you say how much was allocated to LGBTQI+ Outreach? The old boy was about to explain, but he had a pressing engagement elsewhere.

Happens a lot.

He's a busy man.

So he increased the budget by 1.9 billion over 9 years (about $200m a year) and cut 100million in one.  ;)

lee wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 6:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 6:00pm: "The current fiscal year budget included money to hire 220 firefighters in three new academy classes at the Valley Recruit Training Academy, according to city documents." SO which link? Or are you too shy to say? ;)

It seems Gweggy is too shy. ;)

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 6:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 6:03pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 6:02pm: Jasin wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 5:56pm: Democrats saw California as money to burn. Yes, dear, all those taxpayer funds wasted on rainbow wigs, feather boas and gender reassignment surgery. Check out the budget Lee posted. Oh, I did. Thanks Lee. "Overall, the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (CAL FIRE)'s wildfire protection budget has increased sharply from $1.1 billion in 2014 to $3 billion in 2023, much of which took place after Newsom became governor in 2019." Good to know, Greggery. So now Lee's posted the budget memo from the fire department itself, can you say how much was allocated to LGBTQI+ Outreach? The old boy was about to explain, but he had a pressing engagement elsewhere.

Lee and Frank have a habit of disappearing at just the right moment.