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Title: Megafauna extinction Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 14th, 2025 at 8:11pm
Why did the Australian megafauna go extinct?
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The research paper is here: http://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adq4340 If it wasn’t an ice age and change in food available then what caused the megafauna extinction? Quote:
Naracoorte limestone cave has a skeleton of a marsupial bear with the skeleton of a huge python wrapped around it. Impressive! Quote:
https://theconversation.com/new-study-challenges-a-major-theory-on-why-some-kangaroos-mysteriously-went-extinct-246681 The Pleistocene ice age was not nearly as severe in the Southern hemisphere as in the north, no glaciation here etc. Still leaves the question; what DID kill off the megafauna? |
Title: Re: Megafauna extinction Post by Frank on Jan 14th, 2025 at 9:11pm Quote:
Take a wild guess..... Map of the original colonisation of Australia showing different genetic markers carried by Aboriginal populations (in red), and the vegetation zones at the time. Archaeological dates are shown in black, with 1 kya = 1,000 years ago. Image: Nature, Tobler et al. https://www.unsw.edu.au/newsroom/news/2018/08/when-did-aboriginal-people-first-arrive-australia |
Title: Re: Megafauna extinction Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 14th, 2025 at 9:18pm
Yet cougars and black, grey and white bears still live in northern America despite human settlement there and severe glaciation. Elephants, hippos and rhinos still live in Africa.
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Title: Re: Megafauna extinction Post by Frank on Jan 15th, 2025 at 7:32am
Clarke goes on to determine that the damaged condition of the ancient marsupial fossils suggests extinction by ‘violent catastrophe’ rather than by gradual ‘quiet death’. The catastrophe he asserts could have been a flooding deluge given the 25 feet of ironstone rubble and clay under which the fossils were buried. Leichhardt had a converse view believing that the draining of swamps associated with uplift was the most likely cause of their demise (Leichhardt, 1847).Owen had a different explanation for the demise of the giant Australian mammals.
No other adequate cause suggests itself save the hostile agency of man …. As the elephant succumbs to the spears and pitfall of the negro hunters, the minor bulk of Diprotodon is not likely to have availed it against the combined assaults of the tribes of Australoid wielders of club and throwing-sticks (Owen, 1877). Owen’s opinion and Clarke’s insight foreshadow the contemporary debate embroiling the fate of Diprotodon and the other megafauna. Some researchers argue that their sudden demise, coincident with the arrival of humans, indicates they were exterminated by a blitzkrieg of hunting (Roberts et al., 2001; Roberts and Brook, 2010). Other schools of thought provide evidence of coexistence between megafauna and humans (Trueman et al., 2005) or gradual decline, suggesting extinction was ultimately related to a drying climate (Price et al., 2011). https://www.researchgate.net/publication/256440954_Ludwig_Leichhardt_and_the_significance_of_the_extinct_Australian_megafauna |
Title: Re: Megafauna extinction Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 15th, 2025 at 8:12am
So sea level rise due to some climate change caused the extinction of the megafauna?
What about the megafauna of the Americas? Mastodons and mammoths disappeared leaving the “small” elephant as the only member of that family. Climate change there is sufficient explanation with man just a minor factor. |
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