Hegseth has been questioned by the dems on his comments that women do not belong in combat.

I personally do not want to see women in combat and can't see any logical reason to want women in combat. I know some countries do and thats their choice but I don't like it.

These days most of it is by drone and rocket trucks. The Big One is the nuke launch button. It's like the old days of women on telephone switchboards.  But they aren't so good when receiving incoming explosions.

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:09am:

Hegseth has been questioned by the dems on his comments that women do not belong in combat. I personally do not want to see women in combat and can't see any logical reason to want women in combat. I know some countries do and thats their choice but I don't like it.

Broadly agree but would like to see some women in combat.
Mothra, dnaraver, gweggy, karnal, Jenny Smith, Babs Ross.

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:09am:

Hegseth has been questioned by the dems on his comments that women do not belong in combat. I personally do not want to see women in combat and can't see any logical reason to want women in combat. I know some countries do and thats their choice but I don't like it.

Why not?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eqmW8lqiEc

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:26am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 9:09am: Hegseth has been questioned by the dems on his comments that women do not belong in combat. I personally do not want to see women in combat and can't see any logical reason to want women in combat. I know some countries do and thats their choice but I don't like it. Why not? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eqmW8lqiEc

Because I have been brought up to believe women are to be protected by men. If I were to see a man or anybody attack or use violence against any women I would feel its my responsibility to do what I can to protect the safety of that woman. I do not believe the same is to be applied to a woman to protect any man, their own family yes but not in general.

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:34am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 9:26am: Leroy wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 9:09am: Hegseth has been questioned by the dems on his comments that women do not belong in combat. I personally do not want to see women in combat and can't see any logical reason to want women in combat. I know some countries do and thats their choice but I don't like it. Why not? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eqmW8lqiEc Because I have been brought up to believe women are to be protected by men. If I were to see a man or anybody attack or use violence against any women I would feel its my responsibility to do what I can to protect the safety of that woman. I do not believe the same is to be applied to a woman to protect any man, their own family yes but not in general.

What if both sides have women in combat?

Let's say, a platoon of twenty female troops from country A attacks a platoon of twenty female troops from country B - what then?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:40am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 9:34am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 9:26am: Leroy wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 9:09am: Hegseth has been questioned by the dems on his comments that women do not belong in combat. I personally do not want to see women in combat and can't see any logical reason to want women in combat. I know some countries do and thats their choice but I don't like it. Why not? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eqmW8lqiEc Because I have been brought up to believe women are to be protected by men. If I were to see a man or anybody attack or use violence against any women I would feel its my responsibility to do what I can to protect the safety of that woman. I do not believe the same is to be applied to a woman to protect any man, their own family yes but not in general. What if both sides have women in combat? Let's say, a platoon of twenty female troops from country A attacks a platoon of twenty female troops from country B - what then?

What then? Mud wrestling.

Hideous.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:40am:

What if both sides have women in combat? Let's say, a platoon of twenty female troops from country A attacks a platoon of twenty female troops from country B - what then?

I have no desire to see women in combat, over the years there have been women in combat and it seems that there is a push to see more. I'm against it and would never want to see it.

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 9:40am: What if both sides have women in combat? Let's say, a platoon of twenty female troops from country A attacks a platoon of twenty female troops from country B - what then? I have no desire to see women in combat, over the years there have been women in combat and it seems that there is a push to see more. I'm against it and would never want to see it.

You don't mind seeing men kill each other though?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:03am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 9:53am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 9:40am: What if both sides have women in combat? Let's say, a platoon of twenty female troops from country A attacks a platoon of twenty female troops from country B - what then? I have no desire to see women in combat, over the years there have been women in combat and it seems that there is a push to see more. I'm against it and would never want to see it. You don't mind seeing men kill each other though?

No.

Woman in combat could cause unintended concequences....Some men will take risks to protect woman and others will take advantage of woman who could be subjected to harrasment....Woman in combat roles is not a good idea IMO!!!

:-? :-? :-?

Women are not construed to suit an infantry role.
Most mens shoulders are wider than their hips, so when wriggling through narrow spaces they don’t get stuck’
Most men are flat chested so when they need to hug the ground they can present a smaller target or be just in cover.
Men do not suffer from PMT [which can be a legal defence] so are not possibly unfit for duty once a month.
Men when taken prisoner are not likely to be raped, given that many potential enemies have little respect for women and even less for women in men’s roles then rape is not only likely but to be expected.

Edit. Agree with Phil 100%

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:26am:

Women are not construed to suit an infantry role. Most mens shoulders are wider than their hips, so when wriggling through narrow spaces they don’t get stuck’ Most men are flat chested so when they need to hug the ground they can present a smaller target or be just in cover. Men do not suffer from PMT [which can be a legal defence] so are not possibly unfit for duty once a month. Men when taken prisoner are not likely to be raped, given that many potential enemies have little respect for women and even less for women in men’s roles then rape is not only likely but to be expected.

Much like the Trump administration?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:27am:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 10:26am: Women are not construed to suit an infantry role. Most mens shoulders are wider than their hips, so when wriggling through narrow spaces they don’t get stuck’ Most men are flat chested so when they need to hug the ground they can present a smaller target or be just in cover. Men do not suffer from PMT [which can be a legal defence] so are not possibly unfit for duty once a month. Men when taken prisoner are not likely to be raped, given that many potential enemies have little respect for women and even less for women in men’s roles then rape is not only likely but to be expected. Much like the Trump administration?

For a little while I thought that this would be a serious discussion.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:27am:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 10:26am: Women are not construed to suit an infantry role. Most mens shoulders are wider than their hips, so when wriggling through narrow spaces they don’t get stuck’ Most men are flat chested so when they need to hug the ground they can present a smaller target or be just in cover. Men do not suffer from PMT [which can be a legal defence] so are not possibly unfit for duty once a month. Men when taken prisoner are not likely to be raped, given that many potential enemies have little respect for women and even less for women in men’s roles then rape is not only likely but to be expected. Much like the Trump administration?

Exactly the Trump administration do not want women in combat, the dems are arguing that they want to see women in combat.

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:31am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 10:27am: Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 10:26am: Women are not construed to suit an infantry role. Most mens shoulders are wider than their hips, so when wriggling through narrow spaces they don’t get stuck’ Most men are flat chested so when they need to hug the ground they can present a smaller target or be just in cover. Men do not suffer from PMT [which can be a legal defence] so are not possibly unfit for duty once a month. Men when taken prisoner are not likely to be raped, given that many potential enemies have little respect for women and even less for women in men’s roles then rape is not only likely but to be expected. Much like the Trump administration? For a little while I thought that this would be a serious discussion.

I try to have serious and or good discussions but as you know two posters will come onto each and every thread and do what they do. 

The moderators on here are piss weak.

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:26am:

Most mens shoulders are wider than their hips, so when wriggling through narrow spaces they don’t get stuck’ Most men are flat chested

The female shape is more aerodynamic for velocity through space. Male shoulders mean the trench is blocked. Also beer bellies get shot at.

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:09am:

Hegseth has been questioned by the dems on his comments that women do not belong in combat. .

He couldn't change his position fast enough  :D :D :D

There has been a long trend to allow women to serve in Combat.    It is all a matter of training.  NATO has long been facing a manpower problem and before the end of the Cold War was seriously looking at having women serve in Arms units.  Nowadays, the feminists cries have largely been answered and they serve in most first world militaries in combat roles.  Australia is the same. I served with women in uniform.  Some were WOFTAMs but many were good value, worked as hard as the men and carried a rifle/GPMG just as well and shot it accurately.  Men who bewail this are misogynist old men.  They should be ignored.  Tsk tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Women can't be car mechanics due to anatomy getting in their way...

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 12:56pm:

There has been a long trend to allow women to serve in Combat.    It is all a matter of training.  NATO has long been facing a manpower problem and before the end of the Cold War was seriously looking at having women serve in Arms units.  Nowadays, the feminists cries have largely been answered and they serve in most first world militaries in combat roles.  Australia is the same. I served with women in uniform.  Some were WOFTAMs but many were good value, worked as hard as the men and carried a rifle/GPMG just as well and shot it accurately.  Men who bewail this are misogynist old men.  They should be ignored.  Tsk tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Amen to that.

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 12:56pm:

Men who bewail this are misogynist old men.  They should be ignored.  Tsk tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

There is two sides to what you are saying and just so we don't mix them up can you clarify.

Some men don't support women fighting in combat.

Some men don't think women are capable of fighting in combat.

Some men believe that women are capable of fighting in combat but don't want to see women fighting in combat.

Which ones should be ignored?.

Ignore the tsk tsk women who yawn.

Brian,
What would be your solution to the rape factor and PMT?

PMT women go to forward trenches with fixed bayonets.

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 4:50pm:

Brian, What would be your solution to the rape factor and PMT?

My solution would be locking up Trump so that he can't rape any more people.

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 2:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 12:56pm: Men who bewail this are misogynist old men.  They should be ignored.  Tsk tsk, tsk...  ::) ::) There is two sides to what you are saying and just so we don't mix them up can you clarify. Some men don't support women fighting in combat. Some men don't think women are capable of fighting in combat. Some men believe that women are capable of fighting in combat but don't want to see women fighting in combat. Which ones should be ignored?.

All three.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 4:50pm:

Brian, What would be your solution to the rape factor and PMT?

PMT makes most women more vicious.  The rape factor is a nonsense it is also a war crime.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Known to her enemies as “Lady Death,” Lyudmila Pavlichenko is recognized as the most successful female sniper in history with a total of 309 confirmed kills.
https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/lady-death-red-army-lyudmila-pavlichenko

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 12:56pm:

There has been a long trend to allow women to serve in Combat.    It is all a matter of training.  NATO has long been facing a manpower problem and before the end of the Cold War was seriously looking at having women serve in Arms units.  Nowadays, the feminists cries have largely been answered and they serve in most first world militaries in combat roles.  Australia is the same. I served with women in uniform.  Some were WOFTAMs but many were good value, worked as hard as the men and carried a rifle/GPMG just as well and shot it accurately.  Men who bewail this are misogynist old men.  They should be ignored.  Tsk tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

I agree. I have served with women and for the most part they were first class sailors. I only had to deal with one who was an ongoing disciplinary problem, unlike some of the men. I do think some of the more physical tasks need looking at, however this can be dealt with.    As Brian notes, manpower is an ever more pressing issue and we cannot afford to ignore 50% of the potential recruitment pool by allowing prejudice against women to get in the way.

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:09am:

Hegseth has been questioned by the dems on his comments that women do not belong in combat. I personally do not want to see women in combat and can't see any logical reason to want women in combat. I know some countries do and thats their choice but I don't like it.

You'll like or dislike whatever you're told, Leroy. Women in combat have been a thing since your DL was in power.

On September 25, 2017, an anonymous woman, later revealed to be 1st Lt. Marina Hierl, became the first to complete the United States Marine Corps' Infantry Officer Course at Marine Corps Base Quantico in Quantico, Virginia and become the first female Marine infantry officer.[90][91] The U.S. Marine Corps Depot in Parris Island, South Carolina has trained female U.S. marine recruits in female Marine units since 1949.[92][93][94] On December 14, 2020, it was revealed that the previously all-male Marine Corps Recruit Depot San Diego agreed to join the Marine Corps Recruit Depot Parris Island in accepting female recruits, with 60 female recruits beginning their training in February 2021

Viet Cong and Vikings immediately come to mind with women in combat.
They seem a proven success.

Karnal wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 7:22am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 9:09am: Hegseth has been questioned by the dems on his comments that women do not belong in combat. I personally do not want to see women in combat and can't see any logical reason to want women in combat. I know some countries do and thats their choice but I don't like it. You'll like or dislike whatever you're told, Leroy. Women in combat have been a thing since your DL was in power. On September 25, 2017, an anonymous woman, later revealed to be 1st Lt. Marina Hierl, became the first to complete the United States Marine Corps' Infantry Officer Course at Marine Corps Base Quantico in Quantico, Virginia and become the first female Marine infantry officer.[90][91] The U.S. Marine Corps Depot in Parris Island, South Carolina has trained female U.S. marine recruits in female Marine units since 1949.[92][93][94] On December 14, 2020, it was revealed that the previously all-male Marine Corps Recruit Depot San Diego agreed to join the Marine Corps Recruit Depot Parris Island in accepting female recruits, with 60 female recruits beginning their training in February 2021

QUANTICO, Virginia --

A female Marine officer made history today at Quantico, Va. by completing the Infantry Officer Course and earning the infantry officer military occupational specialty.  (25 Sep 2017)

The lieutenant, who asked to keep her identity private, is the first female officer to successfully complete the course since the Marine Corps opened all military occupational specialties to women.

“Marines expect and rightfully deserve competent and capable leaders, and these IOC graduates met every training requirement as they prepare for the next challenge of leading infantry Marines; ultimately, in combat,” said Neller.

Oh dear.  September 2017?

I guess Leroy will have to change his mind now.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 8:10am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 17th, 2025 at 7:22am: Leroy wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 9:09am: Hegseth has been questioned by the dems on his comments that women do not belong in combat. I personally do not want to see women in combat and can't see any logical reason to want women in combat. I know some countries do and thats their choice but I don't like it. You'll like or dislike whatever you're told, Leroy. Women in combat have been a thing since your DL was in power. On September 25, 2017, an anonymous woman, later revealed to be 1st Lt. Marina Hierl, became the first to complete the United States Marine Corps' Infantry Officer Course at Marine Corps Base Quantico in Quantico, Virginia and become the first female Marine infantry officer.[90][91] The U.S. Marine Corps Depot in Parris Island, South Carolina has trained female U.S. marine recruits in female Marine units since 1949.[92][93][94] On December 14, 2020, it was revealed that the previously all-male Marine Corps Recruit Depot San Diego agreed to join the Marine Corps Recruit Depot Parris Island in accepting female recruits, with 60 female recruits beginning their training in February 2021 QUANTICO, Virginia -- A female Marine officer made history today at Quantico, Va. by completing the Infantry Officer Course and earning the infantry officer military occupational specialty.  (25 Sep 2017) The lieutenant, who asked to keep her identity private, is the first female officer to successfully complete the course since the Marine Corps opened all military occupational specialties to women. “Marines expect and rightfully deserve competent and capable leaders, and these IOC graduates met every training requirement as they prepare for the next challenge of leading infantry Marines; ultimately, in combat,” said Neller. Oh dear.  September 2017? I guess Leroy will have to change his mind now.

No my mind is at ease, I will never want to see women in combat. Its more than an opinion to me, its instinct. If ever there is a threat around me I would always expect the men to face the threat before a woman.

Sgt Alice Smith 'Platoon, open fire, 200m.'
Private Jenny Bogan 'That's got them pinned down, sarge'
Leroy 'Excuse me ladies, it's not that I'm fussy but you ought to be male. Can you get some here instead? I don't want you shooting'.

chimera wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 9:39am:

Sgt Alice Smith 'Platoon, open fire, 200m.' Private Jenny Bogan 'That's got them pinned down, sarge' Leroy 'Excuse me ladies, it's not that I'm fussy but you ought to be male. Can you get some here instead? I don't want you shooting'.

If there was a threat I would first make sure women and children are safe and then try to neutralize the threat.

I'm not embarrassed about that, I have been brought up that way and will be like that until I die.

If the new generation of man prefer to have the women face the threat then I don't have a problem with that.

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 6:17pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 4:50pm: Brian, What would be your solution to the rape factor and PMT? PMT makes most women more vicious.  The rape factor is a nonsense it is also a war crime.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Premenstrual syndrome as a criminal defense
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2260910/

Abstract

Premenstrual syndrome may be effective as an affirmative defense to a criminal charge if the defendant can show that (i) she was suffering from premenstrual syndrome at the time the crime was committed; and (ii) because of her condition, either that the criminal act was an involuntary act or that at the time of the criminal act she did not possess the mental state required by law for the commission of a crime. Premenstrual syndrome has been successfully pleaded as a criminal defense in Great Britain but has not been tested in American criminal courts. It may now be possible, however, because of the increase of behavioral, psychological, and physiological studies precisely characterizing premenstrual syndrome and elucidating the necessary criteria for its accurate diagnosis, for the appropriate defendant to assert this defense in an American court. This paper discusses (i) the use of recent scientific data to demonstrate the existence of premenstrual syndrome; (ii) the use of standardized psychological tests or physiological assays to demonstrate that the defendant suffers from premenstrual syndrome; and, (iii) the legal choices to be made and evidentiary hurdles that must be overcome in presenting a premenstrual syndrome defense‘

The rape factor is pertinent as not all potential enemies care two hoots about war crimes.

You still seem to be suffering ‘’Long bayonet’’ syndrome.

Leroy
You do  have a problem with that. It's what you're explaining.

(A squad of PMT women would give the horrors to adversaries.)

chimera wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 9:56am:

Leroy You do  have a problem with that. It's what you're explaining.

If you want to see women in combat then thats your desire, its not mine. I don't want to see women in combat.

Can't be any more clearer than that.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 8:10am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 17th, 2025 at 7:22am: Leroy wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 9:09am: Hegseth has been questioned by the dems on his comments that women do not belong in combat. I personally do not want to see women in combat and can't see any logical reason to want women in combat. I know some countries do and thats their choice but I don't like it. You'll like or dislike whatever you're told, Leroy. Women in combat have been a thing since your DL was in power. On September 25, 2017, an anonymous woman, later revealed to be 1st Lt. Marina Hierl, became the first to complete the United States Marine Corps' Infantry Officer Course at Marine Corps Base Quantico in Quantico, Virginia and become the first female Marine infantry officer.[90][91] The U.S. Marine Corps Depot in Parris Island, South Carolina has trained female U.S. marine recruits in female Marine units since 1949.[92][93][94] On December 14, 2020, it was revealed that the previously all-male Marine Corps Recruit Depot San Diego agreed to join the Marine Corps Recruit Depot Parris Island in accepting female recruits, with 60 female recruits beginning their training in February 2021 QUANTICO, Virginia -- A female Marine officer made history today at Quantico, Va. by completing the Infantry Officer Course and earning the infantry officer military occupational specialty.  (25 Sep 2017) The lieutenant, who asked to keep her identity private, is the first female officer to successfully complete the course since the Marine Corps opened all military occupational specialties to women. “Marines expect and rightfully deserve competent and capable leaders, and these IOC graduates met every training requirement as they prepare for the next challenge of leading infantry Marines; ultimately, in combat,” said Neller. Oh dear.  September 2017? I guess Leroy will have to change his mind now.

Completing a course and going into ACTUAL combat are two different things.

Any linky to American, Australian, British, French, Canadian lady soldiers shooting at the enemy on the ground and being shot at in return - ie  IN COMBAT.

Karnal wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 7:22am:

You'll like or dislike whatever you're told, Leroy.

After talking this over with my wife, we've decided that Leroy is in fact entitled to his opinion, on this occasion. Go ahead Leroy.

chimera wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 2:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 17th, 2025 at 7:22am: You'll like or dislike whatever you're told, Leroy. After talking this over with my wife, we've decided that Leroy is in fact entitled to his opinion, on this occasion. Go ahead Leroy.

If an intruder came onto your property what would be your first instincts?.

Frank wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 10:45am:

Completing a course and going into ACTUAL combat are two different things. Any linky to American, Australian, British, French, Canadian lady soldiers shooting at the enemy on the ground and being shot at in return - ie  IN COMBAT.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/8547/9nh7DN.png

NLF woman in combat

A Brief History Of Women In Combat

There are numerous examples of women in combat ranging from the Vikings, through to the NLF in Vietnam and Eritrea to the Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 2:09pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 17th, 2025 at 10:45am: Completing a course and going into ACTUAL combat are two different things. Any linky to American, Australian, British, French, Canadian lady soldiers shooting at the enemy on the ground and being shot at in return - ie  IN COMBAT. https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/b894749/2147483647/strip/true/crop/2668x2001+0+0/resize/1760x1320!/format/webp/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnpr.brightspotcdn.com%2Fdims3%2Fdefault%2Fstrip%2Ffalse%2Fcrop%2F2668x2001%20166%200%2Fresize%2F2668x2001%21%2F%3Furl%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fa2%2Fd1%2F8b711b134b659ccf33b9173bd8da%2Fbucha-witches-42.jpg Ukrainian women in combat A Brief History Of Women In Combat There are numerous examples of women in combat ranging from the Vikings, through to the NLF in Vietnam and Eritrea to the Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

There are women fighting right now in the Israeli forces.

Leroy wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 2:15pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17th, 2025 at 2:09pm: Frank wrote on Jan 17th, 2025 at 10:45am: Completing a course and going into ACTUAL combat are two different things. Any linky to American, Australian, British, French, Canadian lady soldiers shooting at the enemy on the ground and being shot at in return - ie  IN COMBAT. https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/b894749/2147483647/strip/true/crop/2668x2001+0+0/resize/1760x1320!/format/webp/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnpr.brightspotcdn.com%2Fdims3%2Fdefault%2Fstrip%2Ffalse%2Fcrop%2F2668x2001%20166%200%2Fresize%2F2668x2001%21%2F%3Furl%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fa2%2Fd1%2F8b711b134b659ccf33b9173bd8da%2Fbucha-witches-42.jpg Ukrainian women in combat A Brief History Of Women In Combat There are numerous examples of women in combat ranging from the Vikings, through to the NLF in Vietnam and Eritrea to the Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::) There are women fighting right now in the Israeli forces.

Any linky to American, Australian, British, French, Canadian lady soldiers shooting at the enemy on the ground and being shot at in return - ie  IN COMBAT.

(Israel is different, that is why I deliberately did not mention it)

Leroy wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 2:04pm:

If an intruder came onto your property what would be your first instincts?.

Female intruder : shoot on sight (unless PMT).
Gay boy: flap wrist at him.
Leroy: Neutralise, fact-check for correct opinions, tie to chair for wife to give tongue lashing.

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 2:09pm:

A Brief History Of Women In Combat   Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

No mention of any American, Australian, British, French, Canadian lady soldiers shooting at the enemy on the ground and being shot at in return - ie IN COMBAT.

This girl has too much lipstick, pot belly and shapeless socks. Otherwise, fairly attractive if hair is brushed.
https://coffeeordie.com/photograph-french-resistance

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 2:09pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 17th, 2025 at 10:45am: Completing a course and going into ACTUAL combat are two different things. Any linky to American, Australian, British, French, Canadian lady soldiers shooting at the enemy on the ground and being shot at in return - ie  IN COMBAT. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/8547/9nh7DN.png NLF woman in combat A Brief History Of Women In Combat There are numerous examples of women in combat ranging from the Vikings, through to the NLF in Vietnam and Eritrea to the Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Did they use those long bayonets, Brian?

Disclaimer:-  in my World War IV series (we are in WW III right now) women get equal billing at the front with men..... but that is fiction.

Depends on what you mean by 'combat' - in Afghanistan, for example, nearly 90 Canadian soldiers died in action and 1 was a woman - accidentally caught in an ambush during a re-supply run.

There are women pilots of attack aircraft and such and certainly nobody could argue that a ship at sea under attack is not 'in combat' - HOWEVER ....... when the chips are down, it is always men who are called upon to stand up and be counted, and the ships etc will soon be denuded of women and men will replace them at the sharp end.

So it's Men are this
And Men are that,
And mongrels get be'ind...
But it's PLEASE to walk in front, SIR,
When there's trouble on the wind.

Why is the Australian military weak at the moment and considered so both internally and externally - well - apart from nobody wanting to find self in the position of a Ben Roberts-Smith and cop extreme stress for life over it - young men are simply not interested any more in being shoved out of the way to cater to 'inclusion' and such... and then being called upon to be at the sharp end when it actually counts.

Let me remind you - the hero Dick Winter, during that assault in 'The Island' (the country around Eindhoven, Holland surrounded by rivers) shot first and asked no questions - in the series his first SS victim being a teenaged boy..... and in Normandy he had no arguments about his clear knowledge of Spiers killing prisoners..... which was, BTW, the order to Airborne who had to move fast to secure their objectives - Carentan was the D-Day objective for the 101 - they took it against a single company of Fallschirmjaegeren on 11th June... again you saw in the series a blast confused German being shot on sight....

It's not all beer and skittles.... and hero or villain is very subjective and open to argument.

When The Real Big One comes - and it looks not far off given the uncontrolled antics of certain groups across the world..... it will be your sons and grandsons who will be first called upon to take the load...... your daughters etc will run a distant last.  So get with it.

Peacetime militaries are know for some odd things... a look at air shows demonstrates that some countries, such as France, are still somewhat locked into the idea that their strike aircraft should be able to fight a colonial war... and all this guff about women this and women that and trannies etc - has no real place in direct combat.

Did Margaret Thatcher qualify to be a woman?

Jasin wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 7:30am:

Viet Cong and Vikings immediately come to mind with women in combat. They seem a proven success.

Also. Women in combat seem to deter their Male soldiers from committing atrocities and rape upon civilians. Something American troops were fond of doing in WW2 like the Nazis and Soviets.

If a military can't 'carry the load' of women in combat, then they aren't tough enough, professional and 'the good guys'.
Men in Military who don't want women in Combat, are men who want to get up to no good.
Women can pick a fault in anything.
If there were female prison guards at Alcatraz, the would have spotted that tunnel in its first few days of being dug.

Only evil Military don't want women in step with them.
They prefer homosexual men in their ranks though. Makes you wonder :-? ::)

Women have a different mind-set of protecting people and children. In those cases, such as school-girls firing anti-aircraft guns at Nazi troops in Stalingrad, they fought to the death.

Leroy wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 8:52am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 17th, 2025 at 8:10am: Karnal wrote on Jan 17th, 2025 at 7:22am: Leroy wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 9:09am: Hegseth has been questioned by the dems on his comments that women do not belong in combat. I personally do not want to see women in combat and can't see any logical reason to want women in combat. I know some countries do and thats their choice but I don't like it. You'll like or dislike whatever you're told, Leroy. Women in combat have been a thing since your DL was in power. On September 25, 2017, an anonymous woman, later revealed to be 1st Lt. Marina Hierl, became the first to complete the United States Marine Corps' Infantry Officer Course at Marine Corps Base Quantico in Quantico, Virginia and become the first female Marine infantry officer.[90][91] The U.S. Marine Corps Depot in Parris Island, South Carolina has trained female U.S. marine recruits in female Marine units since 1949.[92][93][94] On December 14, 2020, it was revealed that the previously all-male Marine Corps Recruit Depot San Diego agreed to join the Marine Corps Recruit Depot Parris Island in accepting female recruits, with 60 female recruits beginning their training in February 2021 QUANTICO, Virginia -- A female Marine officer made history today at Quantico, Va. by completing the Infantry Officer Course and earning the infantry officer military occupational specialty.  (25 Sep 2017) The lieutenant, who asked to keep her identity private, is the first female officer to successfully complete the course since the Marine Corps opened all military occupational specialties to women. “Marines expect and rightfully deserve competent and capable leaders, and these IOC graduates met every training requirement as they prepare for the next challenge of leading infantry Marines; ultimately, in combat,” said Neller. Oh dear.  September 2017? I guess Leroy will have to change his mind now. No my mind is at ease, I will never want to see women in combat. Its more than an opinion to me, its instinct. If ever there is a threat around me I would always expect the men to face the threat before a woman.

Well, then you only have one man to blame.

I expect you'll be giving Sleepy Joe a piece of your mind, no?

A soldier with a female combatant by his side who volunteered will better an enemy who has a reluctant draftee (slave) with him.

Jasin wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 4:10pm:

A soldier with a female combatant by his side who volunteered will better an enemy who has a reluctant draftee (slave) with him.

Good excuse there, JaSin.

There you go, Leroy. Turns out DL's female combatants serve a useful purpose after all.

The enemy love a jolly perv, no?

DL should have saved the Taliban the bother and just invited them into the Miss Universe dressing rooms.

LAWFARE !!!

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 2:09pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 17th, 2025 at 10:45am: Completing a course and going into ACTUAL combat are two different things. Any linky to American, Australian, British, French, Canadian lady soldiers shooting at the enemy on the ground and being shot at in return - ie  IN COMBAT. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/8547/9nh7DN.png NLF woman in combat A Brief History Of Women In Combat There are numerous examples of women in combat ranging from the Vikings, through to the NLF in Vietnam and Eritrea to the Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

You ARE a moron.

I highlighted why.


How the hell are YOU moderating Defence, having ZERO ****ing idea about anything to do with defence, the military or geopolitics.

You are an idiot out of your depth in every discussion. You have no idea, no words, no articulation. You are a moron with no redeeming features.

A complete kvvnt.

Frank wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 7:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17th, 2025 at 2:09pm: Frank wrote on Jan 17th, 2025 at 10:45am: Completing a course and going into ACTUAL combat are two different things. Any linky to American, Australian, British, French, Canadian lady soldiers shooting at the enemy on the ground and being shot at in return - ie  IN COMBAT. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/8547/9nh7DN.png NLF woman in combat A Brief History Of Women In Combat There are numerous examples of women in combat ranging from the Vikings, through to the NLF in Vietnam and Eritrea to the Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::) You ARE a moron. I highlighted why. How the hell are YOU moderating Defence, having ZERO ****ing idea about anything to do with defence, the military or geopolitics. You are an idiot out of your depth in every discussion. You have no idea, no words, no articulation. You are a moron with no redeeming features. A complete kvvnt.

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Vulgarity provides no wit for a substitute ...

Frank wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 7:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17th, 2025 at 2:09pm: Frank wrote on Jan 17th, 2025 at 10:45am: Completing a course and going into ACTUAL combat are two different things. Any linky to American, Australian, British, French, Canadian lady soldiers shooting at the enemy on the ground and being shot at in return - ie  IN COMBAT. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/8547/9nh7DN.png NLF woman in combat A Brief History Of Women In Combat There are numerous examples of women in combat ranging from the Vikings, through to the NLF in Vietnam and Eritrea to the Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::) You ARE a moron. I highlighted why. How the hell are YOU moderating Defence, having ZERO ****ing idea about anything to do with defence, the military or geopolitics. You are an idiot out of your depth in every discussion. You have no idea, no words, no articulation. You are a moron with no redeeming features. A complete kvvnt.

Says the old boy who slavishly supports Pete Hegseth for Defence Secretary.

YOU.

Karnal wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 9:02pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 17th, 2025 at 7:06pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17th, 2025 at 2:09pm: Frank wrote on Jan 17th, 2025 at 10:45am: Completing a course and going into ACTUAL combat are two different things. Any linky to American, Australian, British, French, Canadian lady soldiers shooting at the enemy on the ground and being shot at in return - ie  IN COMBAT. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/8547/9nh7DN.png NLF woman in combat A Brief History Of Women In Combat There are numerous examples of women in combat ranging from the Vikings, through to the NLF in Vietnam and Eritrea to the Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::) You ARE a moron. I highlighted why. How the hell are YOU moderating Defence, having ZERO ****ing idea about anything to do with defence, the military or geopolitics. You are an idiot out of your depth in every discussion. You have no idea, no words, no articulation. You are a moron with no redeeming features. A complete kvvnt. Says the old boy who slavishly supports Pete Hegseth for Defence Secretary. YOU.

I'm guessing he's a Tulsi fan too.

"Donald Trump’s pick for director of national intelligence couldn’t clearly say what the director of national intelligence actually does, according to a new report in the Wall Street Journal.

"Meeting with Senate Republicans ahead of her confirmation hearings, Tulsi Gabbard, the former Democratic representative turned MAGA loyalist, failed to articulate what the job she’d been nominated for entails. She also didn’t know the difference between key surveillance powers, according to the report."

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 9:06pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 17th, 2025 at 9:02pm: Frank wrote on Jan 17th, 2025 at 7:06pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17th, 2025 at 2:09pm: Frank wrote on Jan 17th, 2025 at 10:45am: Completing a course and going into ACTUAL combat are two different things. Any linky to American, Australian, British, French, Canadian lady soldiers shooting at the enemy on the ground and being shot at in return - ie  IN COMBAT. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/8547/9nh7DN.png NLF woman in combat A Brief History Of Women In Combat There are numerous examples of women in combat ranging from the Vikings, through to the NLF in Vietnam and Eritrea to the Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::) You ARE a moron. I highlighted why. How the hell are YOU moderating Defence, having ZERO ****ing idea about anything to do with defence, the military or geopolitics. You are an idiot out of your depth in every discussion. You have no idea, no words, no articulation. You are a moron with no redeeming features. A complete kvvnt. Says the old boy who slavishly supports Pete Hegseth for Defence Secretary. YOU. I'm guessing he's a Tulsi fan too. "Donald Trump’s pick for director of national intelligence couldn’t clearly say what the director of national intelligence actually does, according to a new report in the Wall Street Journal. "Meeting with Senate Republicans ahead of her confirmation hearings, Tulsi Gabbard, the former Democratic representative turned MAGA loyalist, failed to articulate what the job she’d been nominated for entails. She also didn’t know the difference between key surveillance powers, according to the report."

But of course! One in all in, innit.

The old boy's in deep. He 's most obedient. He offered to shave his own head for the lobotomy, poor thing.

This won't hurt a bit, they said. To this day, the old boy doesn't feel a thing at all.

He just convulses around, frothing at the mouth. Quite harmless, really.

A "cautionary tale", as SM likes to say.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 9:06pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 17th, 2025 at 9:02pm: Frank wrote on Jan 17th, 2025 at 7:06pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17th, 2025 at 2:09pm: Frank wrote on Jan 17th, 2025 at 10:45am: Completing a course and going into ACTUAL combat are two different things. Any linky to American, Australian, British, French, Canadian lady soldiers shooting at the enemy on the ground and being shot at in return - ie  IN COMBAT. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/8547/9nh7DN.png NLF woman in combat A Brief History Of Women In Combat There are numerous examples of women in combat ranging from the Vikings, through to the NLF in Vietnam and Eritrea to the Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::) You ARE a moron. I highlighted why. How the hell are YOU moderating Defence, having ZERO ****ing idea about anything to do with defence, the military or geopolitics. You are an idiot out of your depth in every discussion. You have no idea, no words, no articulation. You are a moron with no redeeming features. A complete kvvnt. Says the old boy who slavishly supports Pete Hegseth for Defence Secretary. YOU. I'm guessing he's a Tulsi fan too. "Donald Trump’s pick for director of national intelligence couldn’t clearly say what the director of national intelligence actually does, according to a new report in the Wall Street Journal. "Meeting with Senate Republicans ahead of her confirmation hearings, Tulsi Gabbard, the former Democratic representative turned MAGA loyalist, failed to articulate what the job she’d been nominated for entails. She also didn’t know the difference between key surveillance powers, according to the report."

Silly distortion.

Biden lady DEI appointee for the SCOTUS didn't even know what a woman is. Still got confirmed.

Re. Brian and Defence; he still doesn’t know the length of a WW1 bayonet.

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 8:43pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 17th, 2025 at 7:06pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17th, 2025 at 2:09pm: Frank wrote on Jan 17th, 2025 at 10:45am: Completing a course and going into ACTUAL combat are two different things. Any linky to American, Australian, British, French, Canadian lady soldiers shooting at the enemy on the ground and being shot at in return - ie  IN COMBAT. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/8547/9nh7DN.png NLF woman in combat A Brief History Of Women In Combat There are numerous examples of women in combat ranging from the Vikings, through to the NLF in Vietnam and Eritrea to the Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::) You ARE a moron. I highlighted why. How the hell are YOU moderating Defence, having ZERO ****ing idea about anything to do with defence, the military or geopolitics. You are an idiot out of your depth in every discussion. You have no idea, no words, no articulation. You are a moron with no redeeming features. A complete kvvnt. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img673/4087/gIlzsx.jpg

Maggie with parasol memes are no substitute for thought and articulation.
You are an idiiotic big girl's blouse, out of your depth in every discussion. You have no idea, no words, no articulation. You are an impaired moron with no redeeming features.

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Brian Ross wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 1:32pm:

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Oh, you had a new idea!

No... wait... You haven't. Not in the last 30 years.

As you were, Maggie.

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It's been proven that women combatants who try to fight like Men both in mind and body are less effective than women combatants who fight like women in mind and body as the female strategy in warfare is different to the male one.

Also being seen in the Ukraine War and Gaza. That female combatants operating Drones are more calculating deceptive aspect that the male combatant victims don't see coming until it's too late.