https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-12/reaction-to-cashless-debit-cards-possible-rebirth/104087552

Spot

The Indue cashless debit care idea belongs in the rubbish bin.   :(

It's a great idea. Sort the battlers from the Bludgers.

Jasin wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 7:20am:

It's a great idea. Sort the battlers from the Bludgers.

it wont though - it will just put the battlers in more hardship

Spot

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2025 at 7:49am:

Jasin wrote on Jan 18th, 2025 at 7:20am: It's a great idea. Sort the battlers from the Bludgers. it wont though - it will just put the battlers in more hardship Spot

How?

Perhaps 10 years ago when cash was still a thing.

These days it isn't difficult to be cashless. I mean it has been months since I had any cash in my wallet.

They can use the debit card almost everywhere... except at bottle shops, pubs, tobacconists etc.

The dole is there to pay for essentials. The debit card doesn't stop this.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 6:39am:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-12/reaction-to-cashless-debit-cards-possible-rebirth/104087552 Spot

What is the actual objection to limiting welfare recipients' spending on alcohol and pokeys?
In what way is that hardship?

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2025 at 7:49am:

Jasin wrote on Jan 18th, 2025 at 7:20am: It's a great idea. Sort the battlers from the Bludgers. it wont though - it will just put the battlers in more hardship Spot

How?

Frank wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2025 at 3:42pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 18th, 2025 at 6:39am: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-12/reaction-to-cashless-debit-cards-possible-rebirth/104087552 Spot What is the actual objection to limiting welfare recipients' spending on alcohol and pokeys? In what way is that hardship?

Maybe cigarettes and alcohol should be free and we can tax big business to pay for it. Now that would be a winner for the greens.

Pay by cash when out shopping—you will save $$$.

MattE wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2025 at 3:25pm:

How? Perhaps 10 years ago when cash was still a thing.

because people who are struggling often source their goods from garage sales and op shops, where cash is still king

Frank wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2025 at 3:42pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 18th, 2025 at 6:39am: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-12/reaction-to-cashless-debit-cards-possible-rebirth/104087552 Spot What is the actual objection to limiting welfare recipients' spending on alcohol and pokeys? In what way is that hardship?

but it doesn't. Studies have shown it does not work.  Why do you keep pretending

John Smith wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2025 at 4:39pm:

MattE wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 3:25pm: How? Perhaps 10 years ago when cash was still a thing. because people who are struggling often source their goods from garage sales and op shops, where cash is still king

Vinnies, Salvos, Red Cross etc, all have card payment terminals.

MattE wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2025 at 4:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 4:39pm: MattE wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 3:25pm: How? Perhaps 10 years ago when cash was still a thing. because people who are struggling often source their goods from garage sales and op shops, where cash is still king Vinnies, Salvos, Red Cross etc, all have card payment terminals.

I've never been to a garage sale that has eftpos facilities. Besides, card payments usually have fees attached

John Smith wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2025 at 4:45pm:

MattE wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 4:42pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 4:39pm: MattE wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 3:25pm: How? Perhaps 10 years ago when cash was still a thing. because people who are struggling often source their goods from garage sales and op shops, where cash is still king Vinnies, Salvos, Red Cross etc, all have card payment terminals. I've never been to a garage sale that has eftpos facilities. Besides, card payments usually have fees attached

Well I'm not happy with my taxes going towards grog and gambling. You only get those privileges when you contribute to society.

MattE wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2025 at 8:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 4:45pm: MattE wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 4:42pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 4:39pm: MattE wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 3:25pm: How? Perhaps 10 years ago when cash was still a thing. because people who are struggling often source their goods from garage sales and op shops, where cash is still king Vinnies, Salvos, Red Cross etc, all have card payment terminals. I've never been to a garage sale that has eftpos facilities. Besides, card payments usually have fees attached Well I'm not happy with my taxes going towards grog and gambling. You only get those privileges when you contribute to society.

Last garage sale I had a lovely customer organised me so people could pay me directly into my account.

It’s easy when your shown.

80% of my sales ended up going that way.
Mine was a pop up too take advantage of a big tourist event a block away so that might be why no one was carrying cash ?

Do you guys not get it? its not about going cashless (which is ridiculous anyway) but about controlling pensioners money. They are set a limit on what they can spend on what and RENT is one of those things. Dont you remember all the ppl complaining they couldn't pay their rent?

It discriminates on ppl with disabilities and pensioners and aboriginals and causes them to be stigmatised.

You need permission (if they will give it) to pay anything - including eg a fridge or a car repair.

Not to mention how indue was making so much money off it!

Spot

MattE wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2025 at 8:16pm:

Well I'm not happy with my taxes going towards grog and gambling. You only get those privileges when you contribute to society.

You don't pay taxes ::)

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2025 at 9:43pm:

Last garage sale I had a lovely customer organised me so people could pay me directly into my account.

No one said it couldn't be done. That it can be done doesn't mean it is done.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2025 at 8:31am:

Do you guys not get it? its not about going cashless (which is ridiculous anyway) but about controlling pensioners money. They are set a limit on what they can spend on what and RENT is one of those things. Dont you remember all the ppl complaining they couldn't pay their rent?

No.

Never heard that before. 

John Smith wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2025 at 4:39pm:

MattE wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 3:25pm: How? Perhaps 10 years ago when cash was still a thing. because people who are struggling often source their goods from garage sales and op shops, where cash is still king

They have no restrictions on 20% of the money.


Anyway, restriction on alcohol purchase and consumption - think of it as sharia law coming early. For Aborigines, that would be the case if the Indonesians had beaten the British to the privilege of bringing Aborigines into the modern world ( semi- modern, under sharia,  that is).

Frank wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2025 at 2:58pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 4:39pm: MattE wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 3:25pm: How? Perhaps 10 years ago when cash was still a thing. because people who are struggling often source their goods from garage sales and op shops, where cash is still king They have no restrictions on 20% of the money. Anyway, restriction on alcohol purchase and consumption -

and yet studies have shown that there was zero reduction in the amount of alcohol sold in any of the trial towns :D :D :D

John Smith wrote on Jan 24^th, 2025 at 7:43am:

Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 2:58pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 4:39pm: MattE wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 3:25pm: How? Perhaps 10 years ago when cash was still a thing. because people who are struggling often source their goods from garage sales and op shops, where cash is still king They have no restrictions on 20% of the money. Anyway, restriction on alcohol purchase and consumption - and yet studies have shown that there was zero reduction in the amount of alcohol sold in any of the trial towns :D :D :D

A lie, of course.

Frank wrote on Jan 24^th, 2025 at 9:25am:

A lie, of course.

That's what you tell yourself about anything you don't want to hear :D :D :D

John Smith wrote on Jan 24^th, 2025 at 10:48am:

Frank wrote on Jan 24th, 2025 at 9:25am: A lie, of course. That's what you tell yourself about anything you don't want to hear :D :D :D

No.
I am telling YOY that you are lying. Again.

Frank wrote on Jan 24^th, 2025 at 10:53am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 24th, 2025 at 10:48am: Frank wrote on Jan 24th, 2025 at 9:25am: A lie, of course. That's what you tell yourself about anything you don't want to hear :D :D :D No. I am telling YOY that you are lying. Again.

It was all in the links I posted on this a few days ago .... when you learn to read you can go back and review them