Biden has warned of oligarchs taking over the country just after awarding George Soros the Presidential medal of freedom.

Some facts about Soros.


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George Soros (born August 12, 1930, Budapest, Hungary) is a Hungarian-born American financier, author, philanthropist, and activist whose success as an investor made him one of the wealthiest men in the world. He is also known as a powerful and influential supporter of liberal social causes.

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In December 2002 a French court convicted Soros of insider trading for a 1988 stock deal involving financial services company Société Générale, and he was fined €2.2 million ($2.9 million). Soros appealed the ruling, but it was upheld by the Cour de Cassation (France’s highest court) in 2006. Facing new federal regulations concerning hedge funds, Soros announced in July 2011 that the Quantum Endowment Fund would no longer manage the money of outside investors. Instead, it would only handle the assets of Soros and his family.

It seems strange to award a medal to someone you have just warned the people about.

Hard to say, Leroy. Does Hillary use a private email server?

It depends on whether you’re after the echo chamber answer or the real one.

I’ll give you as close to a real response as I can.

The short answer is no, George Soros is not an oligarch, though there is some overlap.

An "oligarch" typically describes someone who wields disproportionate power and influence, often through wealth and connections, to significantly shape political, economic, or societal systems. While Soros doesn’t fit the traditional definition—most famously associated with post-Soviet elites, there are traits that make the comparison tempting.

His vast wealth, political influence, and global reach undoubtedly mirror the hallmarks of an oligarch.

However, his commitment to transparency, focus on democratic values, lack of direct political control, and his philanthropic priorities don’t align with the standard oligarch archetype. On that basis, no, he isn’t an oligarch in any meaningful sense.

The echo chamber, however, would have you believe otherwise. There, he’s unequivocally an oligarch: a figure of unchecked wealth and power, advancing a globalist agenda, entangled with Clinton connections, and perpetually embroiled in dark conspiracies.

Go full MAGA, and the narrative escalates. Soros transforms into something far worse than an oligarch, he’s recast as evil incarnate, a global puppet master, the hidden force behind politicians, and the infamous purveyor of adrenochrome conspiracies.

As we lurch into yet another era of post-truth politics, you’re welcome to reject reality and opt for MAGA’s alternative facts if you prefer.

The choice is yours.

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 4:39pm:

It depends on whether you’re after the echo chamber answer or the real one. I’ll give you as close to a real response as I can. The short answer is no, George Soros is not an oligarch, though there is some overlap. An "oligarch" typically describes someone who wields disproportionate power and influence, often through wealth and connections, to significantly shape political, economic, or societal systems. While Soros doesn’t fit the traditional definition—most famously associated with post-Soviet elites, there are traits that make the comparison tempting. His vast wealth, political influence, and global reach undoubtedly mirror the hallmarks of an oligarch. However, his commitment to transparency, focus on democratic values, lack of direct political control, and his philanthropic priorities don’t align with the standard oligarch archetype. On that basis, no, he isn’t an oligarch in any meaningful sense. The echo chamber, however, would have you believe otherwise. There, he’s unequivocally an oligarch: a figure of unchecked wealth and power, advancing a globalist agenda, entangled with Clinton connections, and perpetually embroiled in dark conspiracies. Go full MAGA, and the narrative escalates. Soros transforms into something far worse than an oligarch, he’s recast as evil incarnate, a global puppet master, the hidden force behind politicians, and the infamous purveyor of adrenochrome conspiracies. As we lurch into yet another era of post-truth politics, you’re welcome to reject reality and opt for MAGA’s alternative facts if you prefer. The choice is yours.

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New George Soros-backed, Democratic PAC aims to turn Texas blue https://www.texastribune.org/2024/01/12/texas-majority-pac-george-soros-democrats-fundraising/

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Nonprofit financed by billionaire George Soros quietly donated $140 million to political causes in 2021 https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/04/nonprofit-financed-by-billionaire-george-soros-donated-140-million-to-political-groups-in-2021.html

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George Soros’ quiet overhaul of the U.S. justice system https://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/george-soros-criminal-justice-reform-227519

Soros has pumped billions into politics and shaped policies all over the world.

Oh look, Leroy's Googled headlines again.

Why don't you open up one of your articles and have a read, Leroy? Show us how many of those donations went to Republicans.

Karnal wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 5:06pm:

Oh look, Leroy's Googled headlines again. Why don't you open up one of your articles and have a read, Leroy? Show us how many of those donations went to Republicans.

What difference does it make if he donating to republicans or democrats.

The topic is if Soros is a oligarch not if hes a republican or democrat.

Leroy wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 5:31pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 18th, 2025 at 5:06pm: Oh look, Leroy's Googled headlines again. Why don't you open up one of your articles and have a read, Leroy? Show us how many of those donations went to Republicans. What difference does it make if he donating to republicans or democrats. The topic is if Soros is a oligarch not if hes a republican or democrat.

An oligarch is, by definition, connected to an autocrat. If there are political choices, it's not an oligopoly.

Some may even call it democracy.

You?

Karnal wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 5:52pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 18th, 2025 at 5:31pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 18th, 2025 at 5:06pm: Oh look, Leroy's Googled headlines again. Why don't you open up one of your articles and have a read, Leroy? Show us how many of those donations went to Republicans. What difference does it make if he donating to republicans or democrats. The topic is if Soros is a oligarch not if hes a republican or democrat. An oligarch is, by definition, connected to an autocrat. You?

Not at all. You are just make it up as you go, paki, hoping for 10 rupee.

Sad.

George Soros and Sons are SPECULATORS.

Karnal wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 5:52pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 18th, 2025 at 5:31pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 18th, 2025 at 5:06pm: Oh look, Leroy's Googled headlines again. Why don't you open up one of your articles and have a read, Leroy? Show us how many of those donations went to Republicans. What difference does it make if he donating to republicans or democrats. The topic is if Soros is a oligarch not if hes a republican or democrat. An oligarch is, by definition, connected to an autocrat. If there are political choices, it's not an oligopoly. Some may even call it democracy. You?

Me, I'm just trying to work out who the oligarchs are.

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Is George Soros a oligarch?

It is possible but I have insufficient data to really judge either way.

I think that it is clearly shown that there are several on the right who meet the criteria, like Musk for instance. He has clearly benefited from his political actions.

Dnarever wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 6:43pm:

Quote: Is George Soros a oligarch? It is possible but I have insufficient data to really judge either way. I think that it is clearly shown that there are several on the right who meet the criteria, like Musk for instance. He has clearly benefited from his political actions.

How do you know Musk is but don't know is Soros is, mindless waddling d***wit?

This is what I love about OzPol- morons like you self-disclose.

Amazing.

Leroy wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 4:50pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 18th, 2025 at 4:39pm: It depends on whether you’re after the echo chamber answer or the real one. I’ll give you as close to a real response as I can. The short answer is no, George Soros is not an oligarch, though there is some overlap. An "oligarch" typically describes someone who wields disproportionate power and influence, often through wealth and connections, to significantly shape political, economic, or societal systems. While Soros doesn’t fit the traditional definition—most famously associated with post-Soviet elites, there are traits that make the comparison tempting. His vast wealth, political influence, and global reach undoubtedly mirror the hallmarks of an oligarch. However, his commitment to transparency, focus on democratic values, lack of direct political control, and his philanthropic priorities don’t align with the standard oligarch archetype. On that basis, no, he isn’t an oligarch in any meaningful sense. The echo chamber, however, would have you believe otherwise. There, he’s unequivocally an oligarch: a figure of unchecked wealth and power, advancing a globalist agenda, entangled with Clinton connections, and perpetually embroiled in dark conspiracies. Go full MAGA, and the narrative escalates. Soros transforms into something far worse than an oligarch, he’s recast as evil incarnate, a global puppet master, the hidden force behind politicians, and the infamous purveyor of adrenochrome conspiracies. As we lurch into yet another era of post-truth politics, you’re welcome to reject reality and opt for MAGA’s alternative facts if you prefer. The choice is yours. Quote: New George Soros-backed, Democratic PAC aims to turn Texas blue https://www.texastribune.org/2024/01/12/texas-majority-pac-george-soros-democrats-fundraising/ [quote]Nonprofit financed by billionaire George Soros quietly donated $140 million to political causes in 2021 https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/04/nonprofit-financed-by-billionaire-george-soros-donated-140-million-to-political-groups-in-2021.html

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George Soros’ quiet overhaul of the U.S. justice system https://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/george-soros-criminal-justice-reform-227519

Soros has pumped billions into politics and shaped policies all over the world.[/quote]


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Soros has pumped billions into politics and shaped policies all over the world

Yes this is true - Soros is an individual who has significant influence in democrat politics. This would qualify Soros in one leg of the requirement to be an Oligarch. The definition I prefer is the two barrel one where the required is to have influence and to amass wealth due to this influence. Your argument lacks the second requirement. Some definitions don't stress this approach.

In fact Soros does not only not show an obvious profit driver under the democrats but he in fact does financially better under the republicans. He clearly benefited under the Trump tax cuts for the wealthy and will do so again.

Dnarever wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 6:43pm:

Quote: Is George Soros a oligarch? It is possible but I have insufficient data to really judge either way. I think that it is clearly shown that there are several on the right who meet the criteria, like Musk for instance. He has clearly benefited from his political actions.

Any insights as to what he did to gain what benefit.

Dnarever wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 6:53pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 18th, 2025 at 4:50pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 18th, 2025 at 4:39pm: It depends on whether you’re after the echo chamber answer or the real one. I’ll give you as close to a real response as I can. The short answer is no, George Soros is not an oligarch, though there is some overlap. An "oligarch" typically describes someone who wields disproportionate power and influence, often through wealth and connections, to significantly shape political, economic, or societal systems. While Soros doesn’t fit the traditional definition—most famously associated with post-Soviet elites, there are traits that make the comparison tempting. His vast wealth, political influence, and global reach undoubtedly mirror the hallmarks of an oligarch. However, his commitment to transparency, focus on democratic values, lack of direct political control, and his philanthropic priorities don’t align with the standard oligarch archetype. On that basis, no, he isn’t an oligarch in any meaningful sense. The echo chamber, however, would have you believe otherwise. There, he’s unequivocally an oligarch: a figure of unchecked wealth and power, advancing a globalist agenda, entangled with Clinton connections, and perpetually embroiled in dark conspiracies. Go full MAGA, and the narrative escalates. Soros transforms into something far worse than an oligarch, he’s recast as evil incarnate, a global puppet master, the hidden force behind politicians, and the infamous purveyor of adrenochrome conspiracies. As we lurch into yet another era of post-truth politics, you’re welcome to reject reality and opt for MAGA’s alternative facts if you prefer. The choice is yours. Quote: New George Soros-backed, Democratic PAC aims to turn Texas blue https://www.texastribune.org/2024/01/12/texas-majority-pac-george-soros-democrats-fundraising/ [quote]Nonprofit financed by billionaire George Soros quietly donated $140 million to political causes in 2021 https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/04/nonprofit-financed-by-billionaire-george-soros-donated-140-million-to-political-groups-in-2021.html [quote]George Soros’ quiet overhaul of the U.S. justice system https://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/george-soros-criminal-justice-reform-227519

Soros has pumped billions into politics and shaped policies all over the world.[/quote]


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Soros has pumped billions into politics and shaped policies all over the world

Yes this is true - Soros is an individual who has significant influence in democrat politics. This would qualify Soros in one leg of the requirement to be an Oligarch. The definition I prefer is the two barrel one where the required is to have influence and to amass wealth due to this influence. Your argument lacks the second requirement. Some definitions don't stress this approach.

In fact Soros does not only not show an obvious profit driver under the democrats but he in fact does financially better under the republicans. He clearly benefited under the Trump tax cuts for the wealthy and will do so again.[/quote]

What tax gains did he make under Trump?.

Also Karnal said that Soros donated to the republicans.

Frank wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 6:49pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 18th, 2025 at 6:43pm: Quote: Is George Soros a oligarch? It is possible but I have insufficient data to really judge either way. I think that it is clearly shown that there are several on the right who meet the criteria, like Musk for instance. He has clearly benefited from his political actions. How do you know Musk is but don't know is Soros is, mindless waddling d***wit? This is what I love about OzPol- morons like you self-disclose. Amazing.

Musk has the power and is set to make billions from his positioning. It is clear cut. Soros does not seem to have the same profit connection. Maybe he does but nobody has pointed out how if he does.

So Musk ticks all the boxes as a matter of known fact but with Soros we are still missing the required info to make a full conclusion.

I cannot say Soros isn't just that I have not seen any clear evidence.

Leroy wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 6:54pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 18th, 2025 at 6:43pm: Quote: Is George Soros a oligarch? It is possible but I have insufficient data to really judge either way. I think that it is clearly shown that there are several on the right who meet the criteria, like Musk for instance. He has clearly benefited from his political actions. Any insights as to what he did to gain what benefit.

Sorry probably put that poorly. He may not have done a lot we know about yet.

He does from next week have a level of control over branches of government that do oversight on companies that he owns. He is also one of the warriors supporting further tax cuts for the wealthy - Tax cuts for himself.

Musk benefited from the 2017 Trump tax cuts for the wealthy.

it seems soros suffered a psychological transformation as a result of his experiences in the holocaust.

he seems very resentful and hateful towards those who have not "so suffered" and he seems to harbour a wish to sew chaos so that the citizens of the west can experience what he experienced in the camps.

it is a reasonably common psychological pathology.

hurt people want to "hurt people"

his hope seems to be to harm the west by promoting various chaotic agendas

BLM, trans nonsense, open borders, funding bail for crazy criminals
all under the "veil' of social justice.

a truly evil chappie who , hopefully, trump can demolish

Dnarever wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 6:58pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 18th, 2025 at 6:49pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 18th, 2025 at 6:43pm: Quote: Is George Soros a oligarch? It is possible but I have insufficient data to really judge either way. I think that it is clearly shown that there are several on the right who meet the criteria, like Musk for instance. He has clearly benefited from his political actions. How do you know Musk is but don't know is Soros is, mindless waddling d***wit? This is what I love about OzPol- morons like you self-disclose. Amazing. Musk has the power and is set to make billions from his positioning. It is clear cut. Soros does not seem to have the same profit connection. Maybe he does but nobody has pointed out how if he does. So Musk ticks all the boxes as a matter of known fact but with Soros we are still missing the required info to make a full conclusion. I cannot say Soros isn't just that I have not seen any clear evidence.

Musk doesn't need more money. There is no profit motive.
Nor does Soros.

It is about impact, not gain. For all rich people who enter the public domain.
Those that are interested in money alone stay out the public, political domain.

aquascoot wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 7:25pm:

it seems soros suffered a psychological transformation as a result of his experiences in the holocaust. he seems very resentful and hateful towards those who have not "so suffered" and he seems to harbour a wish to sew chaos so that the citizens of the west can experience what he experienced in the camps. it is a reasonably common psychological pathology. hurt people want to "hurt people" his hope seems to be to harm the west by promoting various chaotic agendas BLM, trans nonsense, open borders, funding bail for crazy criminals all under the "veil' of social justice. a truly evil chappie who , hopefully, trump can demolish

Agree.

A Jewish Nazi collaborator turned open society funder. The way he made his money is the most unethical, predatory speculators way.

He now manipulates politics with his ill-gotten money.  He became a billionaire by speculation. He continues as a speculator in the political sphere.

Frank wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 5:57pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 18th, 2025 at 5:52pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 18th, 2025 at 5:31pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 18th, 2025 at 5:06pm: Oh look, Leroy's Googled headlines again. Why don't you open up one of your articles and have a read, Leroy? Show us how many of those donations went to Republicans. What difference does it make if he donating to republicans or democrats. The topic is if Soros is a oligarch not if hes a republican or democrat. An oligarch is, by definition, connected to an autocrat. You? Not at all. You are just make it up as you go, paki, hoping for 10 rupee. Sad.

I see. You've got a different definition.

Fake news, post-truth, no-speaka-da-English, all that.

All good. So what's the University of Balogney's definition of oligopoly, dear boy?

We know you studied English. You may even have taken classes in the original Greek, so I'm curious.

Apart from sodomy, which social/political definitions did they cover?

Anything relevant to our discussion here? Or were your qualifications for applying for your visa to Australia a complete waste of time?

aquascoot wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 7:25pm:

it seems soros suffered a psychological transformation as a result of his experiences in the holocaust. he seems very resentful and hateful towards those who have not "so suffered" and he seems to harbour a wish to sew chaos so that the citizens of the west can experience what he experienced in the camps. it is a reasonably common psychological pathology. hurt people want to "hurt people" his hope seems to be to harm the west by promoting various chaotic agendas BLM, trans nonsense, open borders, funding bail for crazy criminals all under the "veil' of social justice. a truly evil chappie who , hopefully, trump can demolish

So why did he fund Republican candidates?

Leroy struggled with this one. Like the old boy, he'd prefer to tweak with the definitions.

And that's okay. Apart from Leroy's headlines, did you have a squiz at the articles?

A bit of an ask, I know, but you did choose to weigh in. Do you think it's a stretch to suggest one reads what the evil chappie actually funds?

Or are you just here to have a chuckle?