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Message started by SerialBrain9 on Jan 21st, 2025 at 11:26am

Title: Executive Orders……
Post by SerialBrain9 on Jan 21st, 2025 at 11:26am
1500 J6 Hostages released 👏………

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by SerialBrain9 on Jan 21st, 2025 at 11:28am
Paris Agreement 🖕……… 👏

Climate Change HOAX Agreements 🖕……… 👏

WHO 🖕………. 👏

Unleashing US energy 👏

DEI 🖕 ………. 👏

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by SerialBrain9 on Jan 21st, 2025 at 11:29am
Only 2 genders 👏

Illegal for Media censorship 👏

Freedom of Speech clap 👏

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by SerialBrain9 on Jan 21st, 2025 at 11:33am
Securing the Boarders 👏

Classifying Mexican people smugglers as terrorists 👏

For Lazy Slob bureaucrats to get into work instead of sitting at home 👏

Merritt based Hiring 👏

Rescind ALL Crooked Joe Bidens Executive Orders  👏

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 21st, 2025 at 2:32pm
Hostages? They staged an attempted coup, an insurrection, on the Capitol Building while the Vicr President and other members of Congress were attempting to certify Biden’s win. They attacked Capitol Police, ransacked offices, damaged the building and more. Some of them were armed. They aren’t hostages or victims or patriots. They’re criminals who deserve to be in prison alongside Trump.

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 21st, 2025 at 2:39pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 2:32pm:
Hostages? They staged an attempted coup, an insurrection, on the Capitol Building while the Vicr President and other members of Congress were attempting to certify Biden’s win. They attacked Capitol Police, ransacked offices, damaged the building and more. Some of them were armed. They aren’t hostages or victims or patriots. They’re criminals who deserve to be in prison alongside Trump.


Yep.

A rapist and convicted felon has released violent criminals onto the streets of America.


Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 21st, 2025 at 2:40pm
All sides of politics seem to agree that the Jan 6 riots could be destined to be a permanent pustulating sore on the face of the US political system, hence the full display of dignified respect for the process being shown at the inauguration.

To finally 'cauterise' and 'heal' it, the subsequent processes that followed it needed to end, i.e., the rioters needed to be pardoned and released.

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 21st, 2025 at 2:43pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 2:40pm:
All sides of politics seem to agree that the Jan 6 riots could be destined to be a permanent pustulating sore on the face of the US political system, hence the full display of dignified respect for the process being shown at the inauguration.

To finally 'cauterise' and 'heal' it, the subsequent processes that followed it needed to end, i.e., the rioters needed to be pardoned and released.


They need their sentences doubled.


Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by Bobby. on Jan 21st, 2025 at 2:46pm
Wow - what a man.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ced961egp65o


Immigration

National emergency at the border


In the Oval Office, Trump signed a directive to declare a national emergency at the southern border. "That's a big one," Trump said as he added his signature.

He also targeted automatic citizenship for US-born children of immigrants in the country illegally.

Trump also signed an order that is set to suspend the US refugee resettlement programme for four months, though the details were unclear.

Closing the border

Trump ordered the military to "seal the borders" and cited the flow of illicit drugs, human smuggling and crime relating to crossings.

Terrorism designation for gangs and cartels

The president signed a directive that designates drug cartels and international gangs as foreign terrorist organisations. Salvadoran migrant gang MS-13 and Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua will be added to a list that includes al-Qaeda, the so-called Islamic State and Hamas.

Resume wall-building

As part of his emergency declaration at the southern border, Trump directed agency chiefs to relaunch efforts to "construct additional physical barriers along the southern border". The directive is not an executive order and it's unclear how such an effort might be funded, a key hurdle for Trump during his first term.

When Trump was first elected president in 2016, he signed an executive order to build a border wall. Although some parts of barrier were built, most was left uncompleted.

'Remain in Mexico'

Trump also re-implemented his "Remain in Mexico" policy in a day-one executive order. A measure from his first term, it returned about 70,000 non-Mexican asylum seekers across the border to await hearings.

Halting flying migrants

In the same order, Trump also shut down a major Biden-era immigration pipeline: a sponsorship initiative that allowed up to 30,000 migrants from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela to fly to the US.

This policy, known as CHNV, was designed to lower illegal border crossings, the Biden administration had said.

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 21st, 2025 at 2:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 2:43pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 2:40pm:
All sides of politics seem to agree that the Jan 6 riots could be destined to be a permanent pustulating sore on the face of the US political system, hence the full display of dignified respect for the process being shown at the inauguration.

To finally 'cauterise' and 'heal' it, the subsequent processes that followed it needed to end, i.e., the rioters needed to be pardoned and released.


They need their sentences doubled.

The Democrats will be letting this pass.

Their worry will be reciprocal retributive justice, hence Biden pardoning his entire family.

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 21st, 2025 at 2:54pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 2:46pm:
Wow - what a man.


Well, a rapist actually.

And convicted felon.

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by Bobby. on Jan 21st, 2025 at 2:55pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 2:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 2:46pm:
Wow - what a man.


Well, a rapist actually.

And convicted felon.



wow - what a man.

Trump's balls are larger than the solar system


Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 21st, 2025 at 3:14pm

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 21st, 2025 at 3:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 2:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 2:46pm:
Wow - what a man.


Well, a rapist actually.

And convicted felon.

Not for long...

I hear that pardon coming, it's rolling round the bend...

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by Bobby. on Jan 21st, 2025 at 3:35pm

Trump just revoked security clearance for the 51 intel agents who lied about Hunter Biden's laptop.



Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by SerialBrain9 on Jan 21st, 2025 at 7:50pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 3:35pm:
Trump just revoked security clearance for the 51 intel agents who lied about Hunter Biden's laptop.





FAFO….

The next 4 years are going to be awesome..

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by SerialBrain9 on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 6:07am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 2:32pm:
Hostages? They staged an attempted coup, an insurrection, on the Capitol Building while the Vicr President and other members of Congress were attempting to certify Biden’s win. They attacked Capitol Police, ransacked offices, damaged the building and more. Some of them were armed. They aren’t hostages or victims or patriots. They’re criminals who deserve to be in prison alongside Trump.


Insurrection!!!

Im terrified for my life!!!  :D  :D :D

Here’s one right now  ;D

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Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by Marla on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 6:17am

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 11:28am:
Paris Agreement 🖕……… 👏

Climate Change HOAX Agreements 🖕……… 👏

WHO 🖕………. 👏

Unleashing US energy 👏

DEI 🖕 ………. 👏


Great news. However, Trump is not going to save you when China invades your "shithole" of a country

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 6:23am

Marla wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 6:17am:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 11:28am:
Paris Agreement 🖕……… 👏

Climate Change HOAX Agreements 🖕……… 👏

WHO 🖕………. 👏

Unleashing US energy 👏

DEI 🖕 ………. 👏


Great news. However, Trump is not going to save you when China invades your "shithole" of a country

China couldn't invade Singapore, Vietnam or Malaysia... so, no worries there.

Why do you think Yanks are loving Pine Gap? It's unreachable.

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 8:22am
Yanks love a show, and Trump's giving them one - with his decree-o-rama - writ large.

He doesn't care if they're struck down in court, which many will be - like the unconstitutional revocation of citizenship by birthright  - that'll be on the judiciary.

For his base, the dumbest c~nts in the Anglosphere, it'll be enough that he showed what he'd like to do...

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 8:25am

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 6:07am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 2:32pm:
Hostages? They staged an attempted coup, an insurrection, on the Capitol Building while the Vicr President and other members of Congress were attempting to certify Biden’s win. They attacked Capitol Police, ransacked offices, damaged the building and more. Some of them were armed. They aren’t hostages or victims or patriots. They’re criminals who deserve to be in prison alongside Trump.


Insurrection!!!

Im terrified for my life!!!  :D  :D :D

Here’s one right now  ;D


Yeah, that's the minority. Most of them were dressed in combat gear, gas masks and ballistic/tactical vests and using poles and fire extinguishers and other items as weapons.

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 8:26am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 8:22am:
Yanks love a show, and Trump's giving them one - with his decree-o-rama - writ large.

He doesn't care if they're struck down in court, which many will be - like the unconstitutional revocation of citizenship by birthright  - that'll be on the judiciary.

For his base, the dumbest c~nts in the Anglosphere, it'll be enough that he showed what he'd like to do...


Some laws may be struck down, but remember - he appointed most of the Supreme Court bench and his appointees have the majority.

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 9:24am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 8:26am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 8:22am:
Yanks love a show, and Trump's giving them one - with his decree-o-rama - writ large.

He doesn't care if they're struck down in court, which many will be - like the unconstitutional revocation of citizenship by birthright  - that'll be on the judiciary.

For his base, the dumbest c~nts in the Anglosphere, it'll be enough that he showed what he'd like to do...


Some laws may be struck down, but remember - he appointed most of the Supreme Court bench and his appointees have the majority.

No, he nominated candidates that the Senate confirmed.

Had the likes of Democrat-leaning Ruth Bader Ginsburg not hung on to her seat like a pope, Obama would have had the chance to nominate another one.

Ketanji Brown Jackson June 30, 2022      
Amy Coney Barrett October 27, 2020
Brett Kavanaugh October 6, 2018
Neil Gorsuch April 10, 2017
Elena Kagan August 7, 2010      
Sonia Sotomayor August 8, 2009      
Samuel Alito January 31, 2006      
John Roberts (CJ) September 29, 2005      
Clarence Thomas October 23, 1991      

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by SadKangaroo on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 9:43am

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 6:07am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 2:32pm:
Hostages? They staged an attempted coup, an insurrection, on the Capitol Building while the Vicr President and other members of Congress were attempting to certify Biden’s win. They attacked Capitol Police, ransacked offices, damaged the building and more. Some of them were armed. They aren’t hostages or victims or patriots. They’re criminals who deserve to be in prison alongside Trump.


Insurrection!!!

Im terrified for my life!!!  :D  :D :D

Here’s one right now  ;D


So if I break into your house, with a non-threatening smile on my face and act meek and unimposing, I'm entitled to help myself to whatever I want, and be considered a hostage in need or a Presidential Pardon if I'm arrested, charged, tried, found guilty and sentenced to prison time for my actions?

Can I have your address?

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 10:06am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 8:22am:
Yanks love a show, and Trump's giving them one - with his decree-o-rama - writ large.

He doesn't care if they're struck down in court, which many will be - like the unconstitutional revocation of citizenship by birthright  - that'll be on the judiciary.

For his base, the dumbest c~nts in the Anglosphere, it'll be enough that he showed what he'd like to do...


His base including numbskulls like Booby and SerialBrain. Tho in Booby’s case it could include homo aspects.

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 10:14am
As for the 'Gulf of America' ('cos... y'know... Mexicans get way more than Yanks)... his base will work out as they use it around the world, that the noise they're hearing from locals won't be cheers of support, but howls of derision.

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by John Smith on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 10:23am

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 11:26am:
1500 J6 Hostages released 👏………


your user name is misspelt ... it should read 'cerealbrain9'



Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by Belgarion on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 10:35am

KangAnon wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 9:43am:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 6:07am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 2:32pm:
Hostages? They staged an attempted coup, an insurrection, on the Capitol Building while the Vicr President and other members of Congress were attempting to certify Biden’s win. They attacked Capitol Police, ransacked offices, damaged the building and more. Some of them were armed. They aren’t hostages or victims or patriots. They’re criminals who deserve to be in prison alongside Trump.


Insurrection!!!

Im terrified for my life!!!  :D  :D :D

Here’s one right now  ;D


So if I break into your house, with a non-threatening smile on my face and act meek and unimposing, I'm entitled to help myself to whatever I want, and be considered a hostage in need or a Presidential Pardon if I'm arrested, charged, tried, found guilty and sentenced to prison time for my actions?

Can I have your address?


They occupied a public building, caused some relatively minor damage and were gone in a few hours. The real issue was the fright they gave the smug politicians who had happily supported violence by BLM and other such groups in various American cities, property destroyed and people killed and injured, but now violence was aimed at them. Instead of a riot this was an 'insurrection' and the participants had to be punished as such.   

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 11:07am

Belgarion wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 10:35am:

KangAnon wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 9:43am:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 6:07am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 2:32pm:
Hostages? They staged an attempted coup, an insurrection, on the Capitol Building while the Vicr President and other members of Congress were attempting to certify Biden’s win. They attacked Capitol Police, ransacked offices, damaged the building and more. Some of them were armed. They aren’t hostages or victims or patriots. They’re criminals who deserve to be in prison alongside Trump.


Insurrection!!!

Im terrified for my life!!!  :D  :D :D

Here’s one right now  ;D


So if I break into your house, with a non-threatening smile on my face and act meek and unimposing, I'm entitled to help myself to whatever I want, and be considered a hostage in need or a Presidential Pardon if I'm arrested, charged, tried, found guilty and sentenced to prison time for my actions?

Can I have your address?


They occupied a public building, caused some relatively minor damage and were gone in a few hours. The real issue was the fright they gave the smug politicians who had happily supported violence by BLM and other such groups in various American cities, property destroyed and people killed and injured, but now violence was aimed at them. Instead of a riot this was an 'insurrection' and the participants had to be punished as such.   


Relatively minor damage? You’ve got to be screwing with us now, surely? The damage they caused cost about $30m to repair. That’s major damage, not minor.

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by Grappler Deep State Feller on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 11:15am
Well he's emasculated the queers transition lobby... cut the balls right off it!

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by SerialBrain9 on Jan 24th, 2025 at 2:28pm
🚨 TRUMP SMASHES BIDEN'S "GLOBAL MINIMUM TAX".

This is HUGE - let me break it down for you...

1/13
Remember when Janet Yellen signed away American corporate interests to the European Union in 2021? That "global minimum tax" was always a DISASTER waiting to happen.

2/13
The deal was a disaster for America:

- It's a 15% MINIMUM global tax rate
- Prevents future Presidents from cutting taxes
- Targets US companies
- Lets EU countries RAID American businesses

It was a complete SELL-OUT of American sovereignty.

3/13
🔥 But Trump's not having it. TWO executive orders on DAY ONE that basically tell Europe: "Touch our companies, and there will be consequences"

4/13
Democrats thought they could sneak this through Congress. Spoiler alert: THEY FAILED. Congress never backed the changes needed to make this work.

5/13
Let me tell you what Trump's orders actually do:

- Tells Treasury to VOID Yellen's agreement
- Sets up retaliation against foreign tax grabs
- Protects American businesses

6/13
🧵 The real kicker? Trump's bringing out the NUCLEAR OPTION: Section 891 of the tax code. Never heard of it? You're about to...

7/13
Section 891 lets the US DOUBLE the tax bills of foreign companies whose governments try to squeeze American businesses.

That's called playing hardball. 🎯

8/13
The Europeans are PANICKING. They thought they had a done deal with Biden's team. Now their whole tax scheme is falling apart.

Trump WON'T let them tie down America like a bunch of Lilliputians.

9/13
Why does this matter? Because this "global minimum tax" was always about:

- Stealing from American companies
- Funding EU bureaucracy
- Killing US competitiveness

10/13
The TRUTH? Europe's economy is struggling, and instead of fixing their own problems, they wanted to raid American success stories.

11/13
🔍 Fun fact: Every US administration OPPOSED this deal until Biden came along - EVEN OBAMA.

Democrats told you they were now Socialists. They meant it.

Think about that for a minute...

12/13
Bottom line: Trump just saved American businesses billions in potential taxes. Europe can either compete fairly or face the consequences.

Game. Set. Match. 🎤

13/13

Boom! 💥

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 24th, 2025 at 3:20pm

Judge blocks Trump's plan to end US birthright citizenship    :)

A federal judge in Seattle has temporarily blocked Donald Trump's attempt to end birthright citizenship in the US.

US District Court Judge John Coughenour called Trump's executive order "blatantly unconstitutional" and issued a restraining order blocking it from going into force after a 25-minute hearing on Thursday.

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by SerialBrain9 on Jan 24th, 2025 at 3:24pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 24th, 2025 at 3:20pm:
Judge blocks Trump's plan to end US birthright citizenship    :)

A federal judge in Seattle has temporarily blocked Donald Trump's attempt to end birthright citizenship in the US.

US District Court Judge John Coughenour called Trump's executive order "blatantly unconstitutional" and issued a restraining order blocking it from going into force after a 25-minute hearing on Thursday.


Lets see what happens…

But it was great to see Trump shine a light on the 14th being used in a way it was not meant to be …

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 24th, 2025 at 3:27pm

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 24th, 2025 at 3:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 24th, 2025 at 3:20pm:
Judge blocks Trump's plan to end US birthright citizenship    :)

A federal judge in Seattle has temporarily blocked Donald Trump's attempt to end birthright citizenship in the US.

US District Court Judge John Coughenour called Trump's executive order "blatantly unconstitutional" and issued a restraining order blocking it from going into force after a 25-minute hearing on Thursday.


Lets see what happens…

But it was great to see Trump shine a light on the 14th being used in a way it was not meant to be …


In what way?

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 24th, 2025 at 6:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 24th, 2025 at 3:27pm:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 24th, 2025 at 3:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 24th, 2025 at 3:20pm:
Judge blocks Trump's plan to end US birthright citizenship    :)

A federal judge in Seattle has temporarily blocked Donald Trump's attempt to end birthright citizenship in the US.

US District Court Judge John Coughenour called Trump's executive order "blatantly unconstitutional" and issued a restraining order blocking it from going into force after a 25-minute hearing on Thursday.


Lets see what happens…

But it was great to see Trump shine a light on the 14th being used in a way it was not meant to be …


In what way?


Nothing?


Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by SadKangaroo on Jan 25th, 2025 at 7:40am
I do feel sorry for the MAGA people who now have to pay more for prescription medication or lost their jobs thanks to Trump's executive orders.

Oh wait, no I don't.

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 25th, 2025 at 8:24am

KangAnon wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 7:40am:
I do feel sorry for the MAGA people who now have to pay more for prescription medication or lost their jobs thanks to Trump's executive orders.

Oh wait, no I don't.


I'm actually going to enjoy hearing their sob stories.

They were warned, and they didn't listen.

Let 'em suffer.


Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by chimera on Jan 25th, 2025 at 10:01am
The US is proud to announce it's the owner of the 'Gulf of America'.  Greenland becomes Red State. Australia is to be 'West California'. The White House may be re-painted.

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by SerialBrain9 on Jan 25th, 2025 at 10:43am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 24th, 2025 at 3:27pm:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 24th, 2025 at 3:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 24th, 2025 at 3:20pm:
Judge blocks Trump's plan to end US birthright citizenship    :)

A federal judge in Seattle has temporarily blocked Donald Trump's attempt to end birthright citizenship in the US.

US District Court Judge John Coughenour called Trump's executive order "blatantly unconstitutional" and issued a restraining order blocking it from going into force after a 25-minute hearing on Thursday.


Lets see what happens…

But it was great to see Trump shine a light on the 14th being used in a way it was not meant to be …


In what way?



The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution guarantees citizenship and equal protection under the law.

It was adopted in 1868 in response to the issues faced by formerly enslaved people after the American Civil War.

So Democrats didn’t wan’t African Americans to have Citizenship, Protections or even to vote…  this was all changed with the 14th…

It has nothing to do with Illegal invaders…

So as i say - lets see what happens going forwards, as i can see this going to the Supreme Courts ..

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by chimera on Jan 25th, 2025 at 1:24pm
Donny the Great appointed Aileen Cannon a United States federal judge at age 39. He needs a few more of right stuff and we have Supreme Trump Court.

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by SadKangaroo on Jan 25th, 2025 at 1:40pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 8:24am:

KangAnon wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 7:40am:
I do feel sorry for the MAGA people who now have to pay more for prescription medication or lost their jobs thanks to Trump's executive orders.

Oh wait, no I don't.


I'm actually going to enjoy hearing their sob stories.

They were warned, and they didn't listen.

Let 'em suffer.


It's not very compassionate of us, but they made their beds.

Who are we to expect them to sleep elsewhere...

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by Leroy on Jan 25th, 2025 at 2:04pm

chimera wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 1:24pm:
Donny the Great appointed Aileen Cannon a United States federal judge at age 39. He needs a few more of right stuff and we have Supreme Trump Court.


Your just saying that because she is a woman. You are a sexist.

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by Leroy on Jan 25th, 2025 at 2:09pm
There is an industry where women are pregnant and fly/walk/drive to America so they give birth in the US and their child adopts all the rights of americans.

Democrats just let it happen and did nothing, at least Trump is doing whats best for the US by trying to close this loophole. Yeah he might fail and people can keep milking the US taxpayer but at least he not afraid to take on the hard to deal with issues.

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 25th, 2025 at 2:15pm

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 10:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 24th, 2025 at 3:27pm:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 24th, 2025 at 3:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 24th, 2025 at 3:20pm:
Judge blocks Trump's plan to end US birthright citizenship    :)

A federal judge in Seattle has temporarily blocked Donald Trump's attempt to end birthright citizenship in the US.

US District Court Judge John Coughenour called Trump's executive order "blatantly unconstitutional" and issued a restraining order blocking it from going into force after a 25-minute hearing on Thursday.


Lets see what happens…

But it was great to see Trump shine a light on the 14th being used in a way it was not meant to be …


In what way?



The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution guarantees citizenship and equal protection under the law.

It was adopted in 1868 in response to the issues faced by formerly enslaved people after the American Civil War.

So Democrats didn’t wan’t African Americans to have Citizenship, Protections or even to vote…  this was all changed with the 14th…

It has nothing to do with Illegal invaders…

So as i say - lets see what happens going forwards, as i can see this going to the Supreme Courts ..


It actually says that, does it?

Or, does it actually say:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.".

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by SerialBrain9 on Jan 25th, 2025 at 2:33pm
Like i said greggy..

There was a REASON why they brought in the 14th

Which i stated above…

I didn’t say that it ACTUALLY SAID THAT…

Is English not your first language to speak?

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by chimera on Jan 25th, 2025 at 2:48pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 2:04pm:
Your just saying that because she is a woman. You are a sexist.

Oh? Did you focus on her gender? I didn't.

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by Leroy on Jan 25th, 2025 at 2:50pm

chimera wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 2:48pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 2:04pm:
Your just saying that because she is a woman. You are a sexist.

Oh? Did you focus on her gender? I didn't.


Oh gender politics now, this is what we need to eradicate.

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 25th, 2025 at 3:16pm

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 2:33pm:
Like i said greggy..

There was a REASON why they brought in the 14th

Which i stated above…

I didn’t say that it ACTUALLY SAID THAT…

Is English not your first language to speak?


Ah.

So it says absolutely nothing about "illegal invaders".

It doesn't even hint at them.

However, it does quite clearly say:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

Glad we cleared that up.


Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by Frank on Jan 25th, 2025 at 3:25pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 3:16pm:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 2:33pm:
Like i said greggy..

There was a REASON why they brought in the 14th

Which i stated above…

I didn’t say that it ACTUALLY SAID THAT…

Is English not your first language to speak?


Ah.

So it says absolutely nothing about "illegal invaders".

It doesn't even hint at them.

However, it does quite clearly say:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

Glad we cleared that up.



Section 1.  Purpose.  The privilege of United States citizenship is a priceless and profound gift.  The Fourteenth Amendment states:  “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”  That provision rightly repudiated the Supreme Court of the United States’s shameful decision in Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. (19 How.) 393 (1857), which misinterpreted the Constitution as permanently excluding people of African descent from eligibility for United States citizenship solely based on their race.

But the Fourteenth Amendment has never been interpreted to extend citizenship universally to everyone born within the United States.  The Fourteenth Amendment has always excluded from birthright citizenship persons who were born in the United States but not “subject to the jurisdiction thereof.”  Consistent with this understanding, the Congress has further specified through legislation that “a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” is a national and citizen of the United States at birth, 8 U.S.C. 1401, generally mirroring the Fourteenth Amendment’s text. 
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/protecting-the-meaning-and-value-of-american-citizenship/






ABC:
those born in the US to a foreign diplomatic officer are not US citizens because they are not subject to US jurisdiction

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 25th, 2025 at 3:30pm

Plain English:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by chimera on Jan 25th, 2025 at 3:32pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 2:50pm:

chimera wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 2:48pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 2:04pm:
Your just saying that because she is a woman. You are a sexist.

Oh? Did you focus on her gender? I didn't.


Oh gender politics now, this is what we need to eradicate.

RUOK?

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by Jasin on Jan 25th, 2025 at 3:33pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 2:32pm:
Hostages? They staged an attempted coup, an insurrection, on the Capitol Building while the Vicr President and other members of Congress were attempting to certify Biden’s win. They attacked Capitol Police, ransacked offices, damaged the building and more. Some of them were armed. They aren’t hostages or victims or patriots. They’re criminals who deserve to be in prison alongside Trump.



The George Floyd Junkie Riots: Blacks across America raped, bashed, killed, burned, looted, destroyed - all against innocent civilians because they had a gripe against a cop and they were too gutless to take on the Police Department directly or the 'Establishment' in power.

The Nerds infiltrate Govt Building: They at least had the balls to go up against a heavily armed Establishment at Capitol Hill and managed to only mess up the paperwork like an end of school muck up day. Some were killed by police at point blank.


You tell me Armchair Politician, which gets the bravery award?

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by Frank on Jan 25th, 2025 at 3:33pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 3:30pm:
Plain English:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

Illegals are not ' subject to the jurisdiction thereof' because they are not legally in the country.


'those born in the US to a foreign diplomatic officer with diplomatic immunity are not US citizens because they are not subject to US jurisdiction".


Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 25th, 2025 at 3:36pm

Frank wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 3:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 3:30pm:
Plain English:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

Illegals are not ' subject to the jurisdiction thereof' because they are not legally in the country.


Ah.

So if they break the law they cannot be arrested, charged or convicted.

Why not?  Because you just said so: "Illegals are not subject to the jurisdiction".

Thanks for clearing that up, old boy.

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by Jasin on Jan 25th, 2025 at 3:41pm
What a self deluding moron ::)

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 25th, 2025 at 3:41pm

Jasin wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 3:41pm:
What a self deluding moron ::)


Go easy on Frank - he's old.


Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by Jasin on Jan 25th, 2025 at 3:43pm
The troll PECCARY thinks he's witty.
Meh nah ::)

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by SerialBrain9 on Jan 25th, 2025 at 4:31pm
Greggy, you asked me what the intended purpose (origin) was for the 14th…

See below 👇

I gave you all the information about it and its intended purpose was..

So im not sure why you are being a front bottom about it 🤔


greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 24th, 2025 at 3:27pm:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 24th, 2025 at 3:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 24th, 2025 at 3:20pm:
Judge blocks Trump's plan to end US birthright citizenship    :)

A federal judge in Seattle has temporarily blocked Donald Trump's attempt to end birthright citizenship in the US.

US District Court Judge John Coughenour called Trump's executive order "blatantly unconstitutional" and issued a restraining order blocking it from going into force after a 25-minute hearing on Thursday.


Lets see what happens…

But it was great to see Trump shine a light on the 14th being used in a way it was not meant to be …


In what way?



Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 25th, 2025 at 4:52pm

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 4:31pm:
Greggy, you asked me what the intended purpose (origin) was for the 14th…


There is nothing in the 14th which mentions the intended purpose.

All I'm doing is quoting text directly from it:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by lee on Jan 25th, 2025 at 6:07pm
"Some of the major issues that have arisen about this clause are the extent to which it included Native Americans, its coverage of non-citizens legally present in the United States when they have a child, whether the clause allows revocation of citizenship, and whether the clause applies to illegal immigrants."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

Now all you have to do is cite precedent. ;)

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by SadKangaroo on Jan 25th, 2025 at 9:01pm
Has anyone noticed, despite Trump's claims that he has nothing to do with Project 2025, how many of his EO directly align with the goals it sets out?

I find that interesting, but not at all surprising.


Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 25th, 2025 at 9:10pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 4:52pm:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 4:31pm:
Greggy, you asked me what the intended purpose (origin) was for the 14th…


There is nothing in the 14th which mentions the intended purpose.

All I'm doing is quoting text directly from it:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."


"Revoking this right would require amending the U.S. Constitution, or for the U.S. Supreme Court to diverge from centuries of established precedent and legal principles that date back to before the founding of this country."

Congress could pass a new constitutional amendment, but it would require a two-thirds vote in both the House and Senate and ratification by three-quarters of states.

Most legal scholars do not think that birthright citizenship can be revoked at all — let alone by executive order.

"It will be litigated immediately and its prospects of surviving those court fights are slim, even before a Supreme Court stacked with conservative justices and Trump appointees."

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by Frank on Jan 25th, 2025 at 9:12pm

KangAnon wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 9:01pm:
Has anyone noticed, despite Trump's claims that he has nothing to do with Project 2025, how many of his EO directly align with the goals it sets out?

I find that interesting, but not at all surprising.

What IS wrong with the Project 2025, whatever it is, gabby grandpa.

Keep it concise.



Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by Frank on Jan 25th, 2025 at 9:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 9:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 4:52pm:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 4:31pm:
Greggy, you asked me what the intended purpose (origin) was for the 14th…


There is nothing in the 14th which mentions the intended purpose.

All I'm doing is quoting text directly from it:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."


"Revoking this right would require amending the U.S. Constitution, or for the U.S. Supreme Court to diverge from centuries of established precedent and legal principles that date back to before the founding of this country."

Congress could pass a new constitutional amendment, but it would require a two-thirds vote in both the House and Senate and ratification by three-quarters of states.

Most legal scholars do not think that birthright citizenship can be revoked at all — let alone by executive order.

"It will be litigated immediately and its prospects of surviving those court fights are slim, even before a Supreme Court stacked with conservative justices and Trump appointees."

Rue v Wade was overturned. On the very grounds of legislative and constitutional intention.

Legal intention is a thing, stupid, repulsive turd.


Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 25th, 2025 at 9:16pm

KangAnon wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 9:01pm:
Has anyone noticed, despite Trump's claims that he has nothing to do with Project 2025, how many of his EO directly align with the goals it sets out?

I find that interesting, but not at all surprising.


I'm sure it's just a coincidence, or a simple misunderstanding.

I can't see why Trump would lie about such a thing, especially since there's no history of him telling lies.


Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 25th, 2025 at 9:19pm

Frank wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 9:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 9:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 4:52pm:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 4:31pm:
Greggy, you asked me what the intended purpose (origin) was for the 14th…


There is nothing in the 14th which mentions the intended purpose.

All I'm doing is quoting text directly from it:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."


"Revoking this right would require amending the U.S. Constitution, or for the U.S. Supreme Court to diverge from centuries of established precedent and legal principles that date back to before the founding of this country."

Congress could pass a new constitutional amendment, but it would require a two-thirds vote in both the House and Senate and ratification by three-quarters of states.

Most legal scholars do not think that birthright citizenship can be revoked at all — let alone by executive order.

"It will be litigated immediately and its prospects of surviving those court fights are slim, even before a Supreme Court stacked with conservative justices and Trump appointees."

Rue v Wade was overturned. On the very grounds of legislative and constitutional intention.

Legal intention is a thing, stupid, repulsive turd.


You be sure to let us all know how it works out, Frank   ;)

Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by SadKangaroo on Jan 25th, 2025 at 9:51pm

Frank wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 9:12pm:

KangAnon wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 9:01pm:
Has anyone noticed, despite Trump's claims that he has nothing to do with Project 2025, how many of his EO directly align with the goals it sets out?

I find that interesting, but not at all surprising.

What IS wrong with the Project 2025, whatever it is, gabby grandpa.

Keep it concise.


I really got under your skin didn't I champ...

I mean, when you ask so nicely, how can I refuse?

Well, it's pretty simple really, try using some manners if you'd like to even be considered for a good faith exchange.

Throw out triggered butthurt dickhead energy and you'll be treated like that.




Title: Re: Executive Orders……
Post by chimera on Jan 26th, 2025 at 3:29am

Jasin wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 3:33pm:
The Nerds infiltrate Govt Building: They at least had the balls to go up against a heavily armed Establishment at Capitol Hill and managed to only mess up the paperwork like an end of school muck up day. Some were killed by police at point blank.

You tell me Armchair Politician, which gets the bravery award?

The Bravery Award goes to the 9/11 martyrs at Trade Center New York.  Also, bravery medal to Jap pilots at Pearl Harbor 1941. USA brings out the best.

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