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Message started by Baronvonrort on Jan 21st, 2025 at 5:34pm

Title: Trump revokes security clearance
Post by Baronvonrort on Jan 21st, 2025 at 5:34pm

Quote:
Trump to suspend security clearances of 51 intelligence officials who falsely implied Hunter Biden laptop was Russian fake

President-elect Donald Trump, on Day 1, plans to suspend security clearances of the 51 intelligence officials who claimed reporting tied to Hunter Biden’s laptop had “the classic earmarks” of Russian disinformation ahead of the 2020 election, according to a report.

Trump will repeal the clearances of the so-called “Spies Who Lie” as part of a flurry of executive orders he’s expected to sign on his first day back in the Oval Office, Fox News reported, citing a senior administration official familiar with the matter.

Federal authorities eventually confirmed that the laptop belonging to President Biden’s son was authentic,

Following the bombshell reporting, a slew of former senior intelligence officers signed a letter alleging the lot of emails “has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation” without presenting any new evidence.

The Post’s reporting on the Bidens was also briefly censored on social media, but the “laptop from hell” was used by federal prosecutors and confirmed as real during Hunter’s gun trial last year.

The FBI also “verified” its authenticity in November 2019, an IRS whistleblower told Congress in a 2023 deposition.

https://nypost.com/2025/01/19/us-news/trump-to-suspend-security-clearances-of-51-former-cia-contractors-who-falsely-implied-hunter-biden-laptop-was-russian-fake/




Quote:
Trump just revoked security clearance for the 51 intel agents who lied about Hunter Biden's laptop

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1881521157587017911


Draining the swamp  ;)

Title: Re: Trump revokes security clearance
Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 21st, 2025 at 5:36pm
Ahhhh sweet!

The 80yo baby is throwing his toys out the cot. Hopefully he will be so obsessed with wreaking vengeance adult people can run the government.

Title: Re: Trump revokes security clearance
Post by Frank on Jan 21st, 2025 at 5:39pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 5:34pm:

Quote:
Trump to suspend security clearances of 51 intelligence officials who falsely implied Hunter Biden laptop was Russian fake

President-elect Donald Trump, on Day 1, plans to suspend security clearances of the 51 intelligence officials who claimed reporting tied to Hunter Biden’s laptop had “the classic earmarks” of Russian disinformation ahead of the 2020 election, according to a report.

Trump will repeal the clearances of the so-called “Spies Who Lie” as part of a flurry of executive orders he’s expected to sign on his first day back in the Oval Office, Fox News reported, citing a senior administration official familiar with the matter.

Federal authorities eventually confirmed that the laptop belonging to President Biden’s son was authentic,

Following the bombshell reporting, a slew of former senior intelligence officers signed a letter alleging the lot of emails “has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation” without presenting any new evidence.

The Post’s reporting on the Bidens was also briefly censored on social media, but the “laptop from hell” was used by federal prosecutors and confirmed as real during Hunter’s gun trial last year.

The FBI also “verified” its authenticity in November 2019, an IRS whistleblower told Congress in a 2023 deposition.

https://nypost.com/2025/01/19/us-news/trump-to-suspend-security-clearances-of-51-former-cia-contractors-who-falsely-implied-hunter-biden-laptop-was-russian-fake/



[quote]
Trump just revoked security clearance for the 51 intel agents who lied about Hunter Biden's laptop

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1881521157587017911


Draining the swamp  ;)[/quote]


What did Baron say to Biden:

https://x.com/DefiantLs/status/1881528507479830626

Title: Re: Trump revokes security clearance
Post by Bobby. on Jan 21st, 2025 at 5:42pm

Title: Re: Trump revokes security clearance
Post by Baronvonrort on Jan 21st, 2025 at 5:56pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 5:36pm:
Ahhhh sweet!

The 80yo baby is throwing his toys out the cot. Hopefully he will be so obsessed with wreaking vengeance adult people can run the government.


If i lied to my boss to cover something up i would expect to get fired when he finds out.



Title: Re: Trump revokes security clearance
Post by philperth2010 on Jan 21st, 2025 at 5:59pm
How petty and insecure can Trump get....Nothing on Hunter Biden's laptop amounted to anything but embarrassment for Hunter Biden who is a private citizen....WTF does the laptop have to do with Trump or National Security....How pathetic but typical of Trump to seek revenge for something so trivial and irrelivant???

:-? :-? :-?

Title: Re: Trump revokes security clearance
Post by Bobby. on Jan 21st, 2025 at 6:02pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 5:59pm:
How petty and insecure can Trump get....Nothing on Hunter Biden's laptop amounted to anything but embarrassment for Hunter Biden who is a private citizen....WTF does the laptop have to do with Trump or National Security....How pathetic but typical of Trump to seek revenge for something so trivial and irrelivant???

:-? :-? :-?



Trump is just getting rid of liars as well as woke layabouts.




Title: Re: Trump revokes security clearance
Post by Bobby. on Jan 21st, 2025 at 6:06pm


Title: Re: Trump revokes security clearance
Post by Leroy on Jan 21st, 2025 at 6:06pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 5:59pm:
How petty and insecure can Trump get....Nothing on Hunter Biden's laptop amounted to anything but embarrassment for Hunter Biden who is a private citizen....WTF does the laptop have to do with Trump or National Security....How pathetic but typical of Trump to seek revenge for something so trivial and irrelivant???

:-? :-? :-?
   

Simple really, if you have security clearance and you then sign letters to lie to the public then you lose you security clearance. It would be incompetent not to do so.

Title: Re: Trump revokes security clearance
Post by philperth2010 on Jan 21st, 2025 at 6:11pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 6:02pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 5:59pm:
How petty and insecure can Trump get....Nothing on Hunter Biden's laptop amounted to anything but embarrassment for Hunter Biden who is a private citizen....WTF does the laptop have to do with Trump or National Security....How pathetic but typical of Trump to seek revenge for something so trivial and irrelivant???

:-? :-? :-?



Trump is just getting rid of liars as well as woke layabouts.


Lying....People who voiced concern about a private citizens laptop which was confirmed when it amounted to nothing....Not one conviction or charge despite all the time, mud slinging and money allocated to find NOTHING....These people are loosing there security clearance over nothing....Keep chearing on stupidity and corruption because this is just the start of Trump's meltdown!!!

:) :) :)

Title: Re: Trump revokes security clearance
Post by Baronvonrort on Jan 21st, 2025 at 6:23pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 6:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 6:02pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 5:59pm:
How petty and insecure can Trump get....Nothing on Hunter Biden's laptop amounted to anything but embarrassment for Hunter Biden who is a private citizen....WTF does the laptop have to do with Trump or National Security....How pathetic but typical of Trump to seek revenge for something so trivial and irrelivant???

:-? :-? :-?



Trump is just getting rid of liars as well as woke layabouts.


Lying....People who voiced concern about a private citizens laptop which was confirmed when it amounted to nothing....Not one conviction or charge despite all the time, mud slinging and money allocated to find NOTHING


Hunters laptop led to Hunter being charged with tax offences and firearm felony.

There are other investigations that might have ended since Joe pardoned the entire Biden crime family.

Intelligence officials lied they tried to cover up Hunters laptop.


Quote:
December, 2020. Jake Tapper asks President-elect Biden about the rumor that Trump may issue some preemptive pardons before leaving office.

Biden: You're not going to see me do that. 🤣

https://x.com/mazemoore/status/1881334756304118234
 


Joe pardoned his family for any crime done since 2014 which he said he wouldn't do.

Drain the swamp  ;)



Title: Re: Trump revokes security clearance
Post by philperth2010 on Jan 21st, 2025 at 6:24pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 6:06pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 5:59pm:
How petty and insecure can Trump get....Nothing on Hunter Biden's laptop amounted to anything but embarrassment for Hunter Biden who is a private citizen....WTF does the laptop have to do with Trump or National Security....How pathetic but typical of Trump to seek revenge for something so trivial and irrelivant???

:-? :-? :-?
   

Simple really, if you have security clearance and you then sign letters to lie to the public then you lose you security clearance. It would be incompetent not to do so.


So much for freedom of speach....These people were not working for the CIA or had any access to the laptop and voiced their opinion as private citizens....It is petty and hypocritical to condemn free speach which you do not like....There was no crime and the laptop was a dud....These people are being persecuted over NOTHING....Simple really!!!

::) ::) ::)


Quote:
The claims that materials on the laptop prove foreign corruption have not stood up to vetting, even as the authenticity of the device and some of the embarrassing material documenting the younger Biden’s drug use and sexual activity have been confirmed by multiple press outlets.

And all 51 signatories were private citizens at the time they wrote the letter, although a handful held contracts with the CIA at the time, the Republican congressional investigation later found. At least one of those contracts was an unpaid position.


::) ::) ::)

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/20/politics/trump-revokes-security-clearances-former-officials-hunter-biden-laptop-letter/index.html

Title: Re: Trump revokes security clearance
Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 21st, 2025 at 7:41pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 6:02pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 5:59pm:
How petty and insecure can Trump get....Nothing on Hunter Biden's laptop amounted to anything but embarrassment for Hunter Biden who is a private citizen....WTF does the laptop have to do with Trump or National Security....How pathetic but typical of Trump to seek revenge for something so trivial and irrelivant???

:-? :-? :-?



Trump is just getting rid of liars as well as woke layabouts.


It would be fine if Hunter Biden was a government official, or member of Congress, but he isn't. He's a private citizen, so Trump has no right to go after him. Quite hypocritical of Trump, actually - crying foul about a supposedly weaponised Justice Department and then he sets out to make it a weapon for him to go after anyone he dislikes or feels wronged him in some real or imaginary way. Hence why Biden issued a slew of pardons yesterday.

Title: Re: Trump revokes security clearance
Post by SerialBrain9 on Jan 21st, 2025 at 7:43pm
Brilliant..

100 years ago they’d be swinging in the public square

They should think themselves lucky!

Title: Re: Trump revokes security clearance
Post by Bobby. on Jan 21st, 2025 at 7:49pm

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 7:43pm:
Brilliant..

100 years ago they’d be swinging in the public square

They should think themselves lucky!



In the 19th century they would have been hanged

from the highest yardarm in New York harbor.




Title: Re: Trump revokes security clearance
Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 21st, 2025 at 7:53pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 7:41pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 6:02pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 5:59pm:
How petty and insecure can Trump get....Nothing on Hunter Biden's laptop amounted to anything but embarrassment for Hunter Biden who is a private citizen....WTF does the laptop have to do with Trump or National Security....How pathetic but typical of Trump to seek revenge for something so trivial and irrelivant???

:-? :-? :-?



Trump is just getting rid of liars as well as woke layabouts.


It would be fine if Hunter Biden was a government official, or member of Congress, but he isn't. He's a private citizen, so Trump has no right to go after him. Quite hypocritical of Trump, actually - crying foul about a supposedly weaponised Justice Department and then he sets out to make it a weapon for him to go after anyone he dislikes or feels wronged him in some real or imaginary way. Hence why Biden issued a slew of pardons yesterday.


Yup. Trumpy wants vengeance. Typical narcissist.

Title: Re: Trump revokes security clearance
Post by Karnal on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 12:31am

Leroy wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 6:06pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 5:59pm:
How petty and insecure can Trump get....Nothing on Hunter Biden's laptop amounted to anything but embarrassment for Hunter Biden who is a private citizen....WTF does the laptop have to do with Trump or National Security....How pathetic but typical of Trump to seek revenge for something so trivial and irrelivant???

:-? :-? :-?
   

Simple really, if you have security clearance and you then sign letters to lie to the public then you lose you security clearance. It would be incompetent not to do so.


Knocking out 51 career federal agents.

Shurely shome mishtake.

We will make America great again, no?

Title: Re: Trump revokes security clearance
Post by Frank on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 7:15am

Karnal wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 12:31am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 6:06pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 5:59pm:
How petty and insecure can Trump get....Nothing on Hunter Biden's laptop amounted to anything but embarrassment for Hunter Biden who is a private citizen....WTF does the laptop have to do with Trump or National Security....How pathetic but typical of Trump to seek revenge for something so trivial and irrelivant???

:-? :-? :-?
   

Simple really, if you have security clearance and you then sign letters to lie to the public then you lose you security clearance. It would be incompetent not to do so.


Knocking out 51 career federal agents.

Shurely shome mishtake.

We will make America great again, no?



Knocking out 51 LYING federal agent.

No mishtake at all.


Title: Re: Trump revokes security clearance
Post by John Smith on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 7:42am
I see another 9/11 in the USA's future :D :D

Title: Re: Trump revokes security clearance
Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 8:44am
He not only revoked John Bolton's security clearance, he also revoked his Secret Service protection (which had been reinstated by Biden after Trump pulled it in his first term). Bolton has legitimate security concerns as he has been targeted by terrorists before. This is yet another example of Trump being petty and vindictive.

Title: Re: Trump revokes security clearance
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 8:48am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 8:44am:
He not only revoked John Bolton's security clearance, he also revoked his Secret Service protection (which had been reinstated by Biden after Trump pulled it in his first term). Bolton has legitimate security concerns as he has been targeted by terrorists before. This is yet another example of Trump being petty and vindictive.


And if anyone harms Bolton, they won't be punished.


Title: Re: Trump revokes security clearance
Post by Yadda on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 9:52am


Thanks bobby......




@ OP and Reply #3,

baron, bobby,


To call 51 individuals, who lied as a servant [of their nation], .....LIARS.
and to remove their 'privileges', so that they must relinquish their employment.....

It doesn't seem enough.



CONSIDER;
These persons,    EVERY ONE OF THEM,      accepted a position of national trust
[a trust which they, individually, must have confirmed with a personal oath of allegiance],
then, each one of them,
[seemingly] chose to LIE, or, chose to promote the widespread belief in a LIE,

in order to undermine truth and lawful process,

in the nation which they had sworn to serve with honour.


All that happened.

And then they are [merely] 'called out', as LIARS ??

It doesn't seem enough.



What they did, was a treasonous act......imo.

Q.
What is the lawful penalty, in the U.S., for the crime of treason ?


treason = = the crime of betraying one’s country,
especially by attempting to kill or overthrow the sovereign or government.




Title: Re: Trump revokes security clearance
Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 9:55am
Did they lie or just say what Trumpy, the 80yo baby, didn’t want to hear? Was there any investigation first? Of course not, the baby is throwing his toys out the cot.

Title: Re: Trump revokes security clearance
Post by John Smith on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 10:09am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 8:44am:
He not only revoked John Bolton's security clearance, he also revoked his Secret Service protection (which had been reinstated by Biden after Trump pulled it in his first term). Bolton has legitimate security concerns as he has been targeted by terrorists before. This is yet another example of Trump being petty and vindictive.



he thanks you for your years of service :D :D :D

Title: Re: Trump revokes security clearance
Post by SadKangaroo on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 10:14am
It gets references a lot, each time there is a change of power in the US, even here in Aus, but this is the first time there are so many parallels to the the night of the long knives.

It's a little terrifying.

I thought I'd be able to have sympathy for those impacted by what will happen for the next 4 years, but now, at least for those who chose the outcome we have, when they start feeling the pain of their choice, with their higher taxes, higher cost of living, higher inflation, worse healthcare and job outcomes, I'm going to laugh at them.

They buggered around and found out.

No sympathy for them, not anymore.

They deserve everything they get.

I expect the Internet will start keeping a list, like the Herman Cain Awards.

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