As a Jew. I am deeply offended by Peccary's trolling with the 'Elon Musk Nazi Salute' topic which he falsely and irresponsibly promotes Musk making the Nazi salute, when he clearly isn't.
To me, Peccary is no different than Moslems spray painting graffiti of anti semitism with Swastikas included here in Australia. He is basically promoting hatred propaganda on this Forum and I would ask that he be banned for at least a week from this forum.
I know many older Jews would be hurt by people like Peccary saying that the old monster is alive and well to give them hell even today.
Cheers
Jasin

No.

Don't ban him.

Can we suspend him by his neck for a week? Or his balls - although it might be difficult to locate them.
By his tongue?

Dangling, somehow. Not banned, dangled. Any rules for dangling?

Oh look. Peccary sent me a PM with just this in it -  ;D

Looks like Peccary (Hamas) wins again.

Piss weak freediver, be like Trump and take the trash out, at the moment you look like Biden unable to make a positive move.

Jasin wrote on Jan 21^st, 2025 at 6:36pm:

As a Jew. I am deeply offended by Peccary's trolling with the 'Elon Musk Nazi Salute' topic which he falsely and irresponsibly promotes Musk making the Nazi salute, when he clearly isn't. To me, Peccary is no different than Moslems spray painting graffiti of anti semitism with Swastikas included here in Australia. He is basically promoting hatred propaganda on this Forum and I would ask that he be banned for at least a week from this forum. I know many older Jews would be hurt by people like Peccary saying that the old monster is alive and well to give them hell even today. Cheers Jasin

JASIN,

My commiserations.

The upside to greggery's shenanigans is that his opinions and the content of his posts,
reveal to all who examine them, here on OzPol,
'who' he is.

That is a good thing, imo.



OzPol is an open public forum.

Its purpose, is to allow those who come here to express their opinions and views.
[whatever they may be].

And the visitors to OzPol, who view our postings.....are able to read/examine the content of our posts.

And are able to determine for themselves, if the content of our posts have any merit, or, make any valid argument.

That is a valuable function, of an open public forum,
......here in our little corner of the internet.



Thank you freediver.

For making the OzPol forum available to us all.

I'm not phased personally.
I just know that the one person who hates being banned the most, is Peccary. Because he lives for the kill of getting others banned by entrapment and his false displays of moral high grounds that he hides his trolling behind.

FD said no and I'm fine with that. Peccary of course, loved it and he let me know.
Peccary made FD a $60 cake and sent it to him in an envelope.
You can't beat that.  ;)

Jasin wrote on Jan 21^st, 2025 at 6:36pm:

As a Jew. I am deeply offended by Peccary's trolling with the 'Elon Musk Nazi Salute' topic which he falsely and irresponsibly promotes Musk making the Nazi salute, when he clearly isn't.

Then you do it.

Record yourself doing the same motion as Musk, post it to your socials and tag all your friends, family and employer.

Or answer this, if you're playing charades, and someone got a card telling them to "give your heart gesture" and they did what Musk did, what would your guess be?

If you can't do this or answer this question, do you expect anyone to believe that you actually think Greggy is trolling, or that as a Jew, you're actually offended by HIM and not Musk's action?

If this place won't take action against those being blatantly racist in what they advocate for and the language they use to do it, what makes you think they'll take action on someone calling out what Musk did?

Hmmm, actually, they protect racists around here, and those being bigoted and using slurs when referring to LGBTQ people, they'd probably do the same for someone doing a textbook Sieg Heils in both action and intensity...

Maybe it was worth trying to get Greggy banned after all...

First time I saw it, nothing Nazi came to mind.
Sorry but you sooky Lefties are still seeing UFOs

Jasin wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2025 at 11:25am:

First time I saw it, nothing Nazi came to mind.

So you've got Trump Derangement Syndrome too?

You should have no issues posting the video then?

You're a complete f#@kwit if you see that as Nazism.
I'm a Jew and I don't see Nazism.
All that I see is sooky Lefties like you and Peckerhead trying to fabricate and promote anti Jewish Nazism where there is none.
You and him are no different to Muslims spray painting swastikas around Sydney.
Wake up to yourself clown

Jasin wrote on Jan 21^st, 2025 at 6:36pm:

trolling with the 'Elon Musk Nazi Salute' topic which he falsely and irresponsibly promotes Musk making the Nazi salute

You do know that we have all seen it right ? Most of us do believe our own eyes.

Jasin wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2025 at 12:41pm:

You're a complete f#@kwit if you see that as Nazism.

I never said it was nazism, it was that he executed the gesture. That much is indisputable. The motion, the angle, the force, it was textbook.

Did he intend it as a Nazi salute? Only he knows.

But the original discussion wasn’t about intent, it was about the fact that the gesture itself was unmistakably identical to a Nazi salute. And yet, here you are, twisting yourself into knots to deny what we all saw with our own eyes.

You won’t replicate the motion on video and share it to your socials, because you know exactly how it looks. And yet, you expect us to pretend otherwise.

Your claim that anyone witnessing this in Charades would leap to “Ah yes, he’s simply pledging his heart!” is absurd. You wouldn’t believe it if you weren’t already committed to making excuses.

He did what he did. It was identical to something else, and without the post hoc rationalisation, without the special pleading about his supposed neurodivergence rendering him incapable of controlled movement, you’d be asking the same question as everyone else.


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I'm a Jew and I don't see Nazism. All that I see is sooky Lefties like you and Peckerhead trying to fabricate and promote anti Jewish Nazism where there is none. You and him are no different to Muslims spray painting swastikas around Sydney. Wake up to yourself clown

My German colleague and Jewish friends saw what you saw. They acknowledge the reality: whether or not it was intentional, the gesture was indistinguishable from a Nazi salute.

That was always the point. That was the claim from the start. And yet, instead of engaging with the obvious, people like you have spent your time deflecting, even when everyone else was ignoring Musk’s history of antisemitic posts, overlooking his growing alignment with far-right movements in Germany that eerily echo the core tenets of Nazism.  That was never part of the narrative, it was the action he took.

The fact remains: he performed a textbook Nazi salute on stage at the inauguration.

If you soil yourself in an elevator, people aren’t going to insist you were honouring some obscure Scandinavian custom. They’ll say what’s obvious, you pood yourself. Intent doesn’t erase reality.

It’s the same with Musk. Whether he meant to or not is secondary to the fact that he did it.

And now, rather than grappling with the evidence, you’ve resorted to the pettiest form of retaliation, trying to get someone effectively cancelled because you couldn’t win the argument.

Your outrage isn’t about historical accuracy or fairness; it’s about defending your tribe. The Trump supporter in you is “trumping” the Jew in you, and that’s the real reason you’re so desperate to shift the conversation.

Is this you?

https://content.imageresizer.com/images/memes/Screaming-Liberal-meme-9.jpg

Get your hands off it SOOKS.
It's a common gesture in many forms and as proven by pics from Obama to Gillard, by other members - all can be falsely fabricated as Nazi Salutes. The fact that Musk pressed his heart beforehand shows its even less close to a Nazi salute than the likes of Obama's and Gillard's.


You're either complete imbeciles or trolling for your jollies which isn't working.

Jasin wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2025 at 1:44pm:

It's a common gesture in many forms and as proven by pics from Obama to Gillard, by other members - all can be falsely fabricated as Nazi Salutes. The fact that Musk pressed his heart beforehand shows its even less close to a Nazi salute than the likes of Obama's and Gillard's.

Stills of them waving.  The video of those same still debunks that bullshit angle you're attempting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xqhpbE8Apo

But that failed attempt is also an admission that Musk did a Nazi Salute, so thank you.

I'm sure you know, but The US Pledge of Allegiance salute used to be identical to the Nazi Sieg Heil salute.

The US adopted it first in 1892 & changed it to the hand over heart in 1940 during WW2 because it was identical.

So they could acknowledge something so patriotic as children reciting the Pledge of Allegiance was identical to the Nazi Salute, so they changed it,

https://i.imgur.com/n06YIE8.jpg

It's not hard to acknowledge what Musk did was identical to a Nazi Salute, UNLESS, you're refusing to because you have an uncontrollable urge to defend Trump or anyone closely associated with him.

And you took that a step further by trying to get someone you couldn't rebut banned.


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You're either complete imbeciles or trolling for your jollies which isn't working.

Look in the mirror.

Is there some confusion re distinquishing between  far right white nationalists  who hate Jews, and who perform the Nazi salute;   and "far right" people like Musk who are promoting the "far right" AfD in  - gasp -  Germany, which is causing uproar in Germany, given that country's history?

Trump of course likes Jews (and has family associates  who are Jews); in fact he is encouraging Bibi to take all of Palestine.... he apparently doesn't care about good relations with the Saudis anymore.

The world has moved away from the old German v Jew phase. It's as gone as the USSR and evil Japan.
Oh, except for the Sooky loser Lefties who hold onto the past as that's all they've got going for them to justify their reason to exist. Hell they still cry about Confederates. 😆

The world has moved to the Muslim v France phase.

If you see Nazi Salutes like UFOs 😂🤣 like the sad TB media gimps that you are, then just suffer the consequences of your trolling with nothing but crumbs to offer.

Btw Lefties, the Muslims are looking for a sacrifice. Guess what - you're it.😆😆

It bewilders me that you can't accept what you see with your own eyes and admit it on here, because it doesn't align with the political beliefs you hold.

It's got nothing to do with belief you nutter conspiacist.
It is not a Nazi salute by him, by me and by the whole world that no longer buys into your stupid Lefty world anymore you sad kangaroo. Just another Lefty "Let's go Brandon" attempt at fake propaganda for you Leftards. ;D

Nazi Germany was Left. As are the French. As is Italy. You're all Lefties blaming each other for your own failures you BIG SOOKS.

Now stand up and deal with the Muslims and terrorism you cowards.

Jasin wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2025 at 3:33pm:

It's got nothing to do with belief you nutter conspiacist. It is not a Nazi salute by him, by me and by the whole world that no longer buys into your stupid Lefty world anymore you sad kangaroo. Just another Lefty "Let's go Brandon" attempt at fake propaganda for you Leftards. ;D Nazi Germany was Left. As are the French. As is Italy. You're all Lefties blaming each other for your own failures you BIG SOOKS. Now stand up and deal with the Muslims and terrorism you cowards.

Settle down.

With that sort of unhinged and emotional response, it's clear you've been backed into a corner.  Don't like what you see when I hole the mirror up to you?

That's not my fault.

Are you going to ask for me to be banned too?

Spin Doctoring and Used Car Salesman tactics don't do well in Politics Lefty.
Do try harder
😆

Jasin wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2025 at 3:48pm:

Spin Doctoring and Used Car Salesman tactics don't do well in Politics Lefty. Do try harder 😆

Um, it got Trump elected... What are you talking about?