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Message started by Panther on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 11:38am

Title: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 11:38am
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Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 Political Hostages



Source:      New York Times      
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One day after President Donald J. Trump issued a sweeping legal reprieve to all of the nearly 1,600 people charged in connection with the attack on the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, some of the defendants started having their cases dismissed or even began to be released from custody.

By Tuesday afternoon, two of the country’s most prominent far-right extremists — Enrique Tarrio of the Proud Boys and Stewart Rhodes of the Oath Keepers militia — who played central roles in the Capitol attack had been set free.

Mr. Tarrio, who was serving a 22-year term for a conviction on charges of seditious conspiracy, received a pardon from Mr. Trump and walked out of a prison in Pollock, La.

Mr. Rhodes, who was serving an 18-year term on similar charges, had his sentence commuted to time served and was freed from a prison in Cumberland, Md.

Defense lawyers said that another member of the Proud Boys, Joseph Biggs, who was one of Mr. Tarrio’s co-defendants, was also released after Mr. Trump commuted his sentence.

Mr. Biggs had been serving 17 years in prison following his own conviction on seditious conspiracy charges.

Additional members of the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers were expected to be freed in the coming days.

Defendants have also started to be released from the local jail in Washington, where several rioters have been held in recent years in a special area nicknamed the “patriot wing.”

On Monday night, two brothers from Pennsylvania, Matthew and Andrew Valentin, were set free, only days after being sentenced to two and a half years each on charges of assaulting the police.

“They helped break the police line by shoving a metal barricade into officers, and Matthew Valentin violently grabbed an officer’s neck,” prosecutors wrote in their sentencing memo for the men. “They followed that assault by stealing police batons and berating officers.”

Aside from pardons and sentence commutations, Mr. Trump also ordered officials in his Justice Department to dismiss any cases against Jan. 6 defendants that were still moving through Federal District Court in Washington, where all of the proceedings have unfolded.

On Tuesday morning, several judges there granted motions filed by federal prosecutors to drop Jan. 6-related cases, more or less without a fight.

One of those cases — for three members of the same family — was in the middle of a jury trial when prosecutors asked the judge, Colleen Kollar-Kotelly, to dismiss it altogether. The three defendants — Kenneth, Caleb and Nicholas Fuller — had been charged with multiple counts, including felony civil disorder for taking part in a shoving match against police officers, prosecutors said.

In court on Tuesday, Judge Kollar-Kotelly simply asked the three men if they agreed with the government’s decision to drop the case.

When each one, not surprisingly, said he did, the judge declared the trial over and the men went free.

Caleb Fuller has denied that he saw or engaged in any violence and said the dismissal by the judge was a just conclusion to the case.

“We didn’t go there that day with the intention to hurt anyone — and we didn’t hurt anyone,” he said. “So being dismissed, I think it’s valid.”


President Donald John Trump kept his word to get the J6 "Hostages" released from their Political Imprisonments starting on Day 1 of his 4 year term as President of the United States of America!



God Bless All The Freed Jan6 "Political Hostages"....

God Bless AMERICA!....

God Bless President Donald John Trump !!!






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Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by Bobby. on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 11:43am


https://countersignal.medium.com/how-the-january-6-capitol-riots-were-an-fbi-entrapment-operation-be9ebcc60dc8

Jan 6th FBI entrapment operation.

How the January 6 Capitol Riots Were an FBI Entrapment Operation



Counter Signal

Jan 7, 2024
“The FBI had so many paid informants at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, that it lost track of the number and had to perform a later audit to determine exactly how many “Confidential Human Sources” run by different FBI field offices were present that day, a former assistant director of the bureau has told lawmakers.”

Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 11:44am
They are NOT hostages, or patriots, or heroes. They are criminals and traitors who deserve to be in prison to complete their full sentences.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 11:55am

Panther wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 11:38am:
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Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 Political Hostages



Source:      New York Times      
Quote:
One day after President Donald J. Trump issued a sweeping legal reprieve to all of the nearly 1,600 people charged in connection with the attack on the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, some of the defendants started having their cases dismissed or even began to be released from custody.

By Tuesday afternoon, two of the country’s most prominent far-right extremists — Enrique Tarrio of the Proud Boys and Stewart Rhodes of the Oath Keepers militia — who played central roles in the Capitol attack had been set free.

Mr. Tarrio, who was serving a 22-year term for a conviction on charges of seditious conspiracy, received a pardon from Mr. Trump and walked out of a prison in Pollock, La.

Mr. Rhodes, who was serving an 18-year term on similar charges, had his sentence commuted to time served and was freed from a prison in Cumberland, Md.

Defense lawyers said that another member of the Proud Boys, Joseph Biggs, who was one of Mr. Tarrio’s co-defendants, was also released after Mr. Trump commuted his sentence.

Mr. Biggs had been serving 17 years in prison following his own conviction on seditious conspiracy charges.

Additional members of the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers were expected to be freed in the coming days.

Defendants have also started to be released from the local jail in Washington, where several rioters have been held in recent years in a special area nicknamed the “patriot wing.”

On Monday night, two brothers from Pennsylvania, Matthew and Andrew Valentin, were set free, only days after being sentenced to two and a half years each on charges of assaulting the police.

“They helped break the police line by shoving a metal barricade into officers, and Matthew Valentin violently grabbed an officer’s neck,” prosecutors wrote in their sentencing memo for the men. “They followed that assault by stealing police batons and berating officers.”

Aside from pardons and sentence commutations, Mr. Trump also ordered officials in his Justice Department to dismiss any cases against Jan. 6 defendants that were still moving through Federal District Court in Washington, where all of the proceedings have unfolded.

On Tuesday morning, several judges there granted motions filed by federal prosecutors to drop Jan. 6-related cases, more or less without a fight.

One of those cases — for three members of the same family — was in the middle of a jury trial when prosecutors asked the judge, Colleen Kollar-Kotelly, to dismiss it altogether. The three defendants — Kenneth, Caleb and Nicholas Fuller — had been charged with multiple counts, including felony civil disorder for taking part in a shoving match against police officers, prosecutors said.

In court on Tuesday, Judge Kollar-Kotelly simply asked the three men if they agreed with the government’s decision to drop the case.

When each one, not surprisingly, said he did, the judge declared the trial over and the men went free.

Caleb Fuller has denied that he saw or engaged in any violence and said the dismissal by the judge was a just conclusion to the case.

“We didn’t go there that day with the intention to hurt anyone — and we didn’t hurt anyone,” he said. “So being dismissed, I think it’s valid.”


President Donald John Trump kept his word to get the J6 "Hostages" released from their Political Imprisonments starting on Day 1 of his 4 year term as President of the United States of America!



God Bless All The Freed Jan6 "Political Hostages"....

God Bless AMERICA!....

God Bless President Donald John Trump !!!






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Hey Panther, would you like to see cop killers released as well?

Why or why not?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 11:57am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 11:44am:
They are NOT hostages, or patriots, or heroes. They are criminals and traitors who deserve to be in prison to complete their full sentences.


Your personal opinions aside, your Freedom of Speech allows you to have your opinion.

President Donald John Trump, as President of the United States of America, has more than just a Right to express his personal opinions. Through powers granted him in the United States Constitution, he exercised his Right to personally & Unconditionally Pardon the Jan.6 Political Hostages through his Executive Order to set them all free!!! 


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Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 12:25pm
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Justice Denied No Longer.......Go Out & Be Free!!!

[media width=830]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGy7JX4ZQPY[/media]

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 12:36pm
'When government fears the People there is Freedom & Liberty!'
When US Vice President Pence was hanging by the neck, the vote would be forced to give power to Trump.  This is Freedom and Liberty for Trump. Government then fears Trump.  People fear Trump. Freedom and Liberty will be great for Trump people (mainly Trump). 

Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 1:11pm
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Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by philperth2010 on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 1:37pm
A cult....A narcissist....Guilty....Allowed to walk free....At least one cult member has seen through Trump's bullshit!!!


Quote:
Former 'MAGA cult' member rejects Capitol riot pardon from 'narcissist' Trump

Pamela Hemphill says the mass reprieve could embolden far-right extremist groups such as the Proud Boys and lead to more violence.

A former Trump supporter jailed over the US Capitol riots has said she's rejected the president's pardon after seeing through the "MAGA cult".

Pamela Hemphill told Sky's The News Hour with Mark Austin it would be a "slap in the face to the rule of law, the Capitol police officers and to our nation".

Ms Hemphill was jailed for 60 days for her role and admitted she was part of what she now calls the "MAGA cult".


She said the Capitol attack "was an insurrection" and she didn't "want to be a part of helping them rewrite history" by accepting the pardon and having her conviction erased.

"I was guilty. I pleaded guilty," she added.


::) ::) ::)

https://news.sky.com/story/former-maga-cult-member-rejects-capitol-riot-pardon-from-narcissist-trump-13294535

Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 1:42pm

Panther wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 1:11pm:
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Hi Panther, does your much beloved Constitution grant rioters the freedom to invade your Capitol, attempt to overthrow an election and kill 5 cops tasked with protecting your elected representatives and constitutional rights?

That's a question.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 1:52pm

Quote:
the mass reprieve could embolden far-right extremist groups such as the Proud Boys and lead to more violence.


That is why I say: Trumpy has his brown shirts.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 1:53pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 1:37pm:
A cult....A narcissist....Guilty....Allowed to walk free....At least one cult member has seen through Trump's bullshit!!!


Quote:
Former 'MAGA cult' member rejects Capitol riot pardon from 'narcissist' Trump

Pamela Hemphill says the mass reprieve could embolden far-right extremist groups such as the Proud Boys and lead to more violence.

A former Trump supporter jailed over the US Capitol riots has said she's rejected the president's pardon after seeing through the "MAGA cult".

Pamela Hemphill told Sky's The News Hour with Mark Austin it would be a "slap in the face to the rule of law, the Capitol police officers and to our nation".

Ms Hemphill was jailed for 60 days for her role and admitted she was part of what she now calls the "MAGA cult".


She said the Capitol attack "was an insurrection" and she didn't "want to be a part of helping them rewrite history" by accepting the pardon and having her conviction erased.

"I was guilty. I pleaded guilty," she added.


::) ::) ::)

https://news.sky.com/story/former-maga-cult-member-rejects-capitol-riot-pardon-from-narcissist-trump-13294535


It is Ms Hemphill's Right.....her exercise of free will......to accept or reject her pardon, generously offered to her by President Trump.  ;)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 2:06pm
She may not really be pardoned if Trump is a convicted felon. Will she later be charged with consorting with a crim?

'When government fears the People there is Freedom & Liberty!'
Trump is really fearful of gay Mexicans who must be the most free people in US.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by buzzanddidj on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 2:09pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 11:43am:
https://countersignal.medium.com/how-the-january-6-capitol-riots-were-an-fbi-entrapment-operation-be9ebcc60dc8

Jan 6th FBI entrapment operation.

How the January 6 Capitol Riots Were an FBI Entrapment Operation



Counter Signal

Jan 7, 2024
“The FBI had so many paid informants at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, that it lost track of the number and had to perform a later audit to determine exactly how many “Confidential Human Sources” run by different FBI field offices were present that day, a former assistant director of the bureau has told lawmakers.”



... and you MUST catch the rest of the "news"
It's just a "click" away !

https://countersignal.medium.com/




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Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by Panther on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 2:16pm

chimera wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 2:06pm:
She may not really be pardoned if Trump is a convicted felon. Will she later be charged with consorting with a crim?

'When government fears the People there is Freedom & Liberty!'
Trump is really fearful of gay Mexicans who must be the most free people in US.


If she refuses to leave her beloved prison, she doesn't have to.......so long as the decision to or not to is hers. ;)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 2:43pm
Trumpy has his brown shirts, his Sturmabteilung.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by chimera on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 3:18pm
[quote author=DreamRyderX link=1737596338/14#14 date=1737605804]If she refuses to leave her beloved prison, she doesn't have to.......
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It's rare for a person in jail to have less guilt than the authority giving the pardon.
It's rare for a judge to be directed by a crim.
The judge can probably be charged with consorting with a felon. As can Albanese.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by lee on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 3:20pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 1:37pm:
https://news.sky.com/story/former-maga-cult-member-rejects-capitol-riot-pardon-f...



That can't be right. Skynews is the devil incarnate according to the lefties. All misinformation. ;)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 3:21pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 1:37pm:
A cult....A narcissist....Guilty....Allowed to walk free....At least one cult member has seen through Trump's bullshit!!!


Quote:
Former 'MAGA cult' member rejects Capitol riot pardon from 'narcissist' Trump

Pamela Hemphill says the mass reprieve could embolden far-right extremist groups such as the Proud Boys and lead to more violence.

A former Trump supporter jailed over the US Capitol riots has said she's rejected the president's pardon after seeing through the "MAGA cult".

Pamela Hemphill told Sky's The News Hour with Mark Austin it would be a "slap in the face to the rule of law, the Capitol police officers and to our nation".

Ms Hemphill was jailed for 60 days for her role and admitted she was part of what she now calls the "MAGA cult".


She said the Capitol attack "was an insurrection" and she didn't "want to be a part of helping them rewrite history" by accepting the pardon and having her conviction erased.

"I was guilty. I pleaded guilty," she added.




Good to see that people are leaving the cult.


Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by philperth2010 on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 3:25pm

lee wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 3:20pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 1:37pm:
https://news.sky.com/story/former-maga-cult-member-rejects-capitol-riot-pardon-f...



That can't be right. Skynews is the devil incarnate according to the lefties. All misinformation. ;)


Their News is generaly accurate because of Australia's media laws....However their opinion pieces are right wing crap....Keep trolling dickhead!!!

;) ;) ;)

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/sky-news-australia/

Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 3:29pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 1:37pm:
A cult....A narcissist....Guilty....Allowed to walk free....At least one cult member has seen through Trump's bullshit!!!


Quote:
Former 'MAGA cult' member rejects Capitol riot pardon from 'narcissist' Trump

Pamela Hemphill says the mass reprieve could embolden far-right extremist groups such as the Proud Boys and lead to more violence.

A former Trump supporter jailed over the US Capitol riots has said she's rejected the president's pardon after seeing through the "MAGA cult".

Pamela Hemphill told Sky's The News Hour with Mark Austin it would be a "slap in the face to the rule of law, the Capitol police officers and to our nation".

Ms Hemphill was jailed for 60 days for her role and admitted she was part of what she now calls the "MAGA cult".


She said the Capitol attack "was an insurrection" and she didn't "want to be a part of helping them rewrite history" by accepting the pardon and having her conviction erased.

"I was guilty. I pleaded guilty," she added.


::) ::) ::)

https://news.sky.com/story/former-maga-cult-member-rejects-capitol-riot-pardon-from-narcissist-trump-13294535


She's got her legal terms mixed up, Phil. It wasn't an insurrection, it was a revolution. You're allowed to do that under the Second Amendment of Panther's Constitution.

America is a republic. It's citizens have every right to take control of their House of Representatives and tell them which president to appoint. That's why Americans have guns. 11 people were taken hostage by the government for upholding their constitutional rights to take arms to the Capitol Jan 6.

LAWFARE !!!

This woman took part in a perfectly legal revolution - a harmless walking tour -  then fell on her hands and knees to surrender. You know what is typically done to people like that, right?

The new Attorney General has a list of names. They will be arrested and sentenced any day now, it's only a matter of time. Mr Trump has called for the death sentence for arch-traitor, Mark Milley. He spoke out against the Leader and will be arrested immediately. Mr Trump has committed to carrying this out.

Mr Trump has made plans to have the Department of Justice placed under the direct command of the White House. This will allow him to sign off on the executions himself. This is a significant reform, as I'm sure you'll agree.

This woman's a traitor, totally brainwashed by the MSM. Typically, the first step in a presidential pardon is an acknowledgement of guilt and some form of contrition. Clearly, the legal process has taught this woman nothing.

She should be re-arrested as an Enemy of the People and dispensed with in due haste. The time for talking's over. The new administration plans to get down to business, and judicial reform is the first thing on the Leader's list.

Proud Boys, stand back and stand by.

We will make America great again, no?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 3:44pm

Panther wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 1:53pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 1:37pm:
A cult....A narcissist....Guilty....Allowed to walk free....At least one cult member has seen through Trump's bullshit!!!


Quote:
Former 'MAGA cult' member rejects Capitol riot pardon from 'narcissist' Trump

Pamela Hemphill says the mass reprieve could embolden far-right extremist groups such as the Proud Boys and lead to more violence.

A former Trump supporter jailed over the US Capitol riots has said she's rejected the president's pardon after seeing through the "MAGA cult".

Pamela Hemphill told Sky's The News Hour with Mark Austin it would be a "slap in the face to the rule of law, the Capitol police officers and to our nation".

Ms Hemphill was jailed for 60 days for her role and admitted she was part of what she now calls the "MAGA cult".


She said the Capitol attack "was an insurrection" and she didn't "want to be a part of helping them rewrite history" by accepting the pardon and having her conviction erased.

"I was guilty. I pleaded guilty," she added.


::) ::) ::)

https://news.sky.com/story/former-maga-cult-member-rejects-capitol-riot-pardon-from-narcissist-trump-13294535


It is Ms Hemphill's Right.....her exercise of free will......to accept or reject her pardon, generously offered to her by President Trump.  ;)


She has no right to tell lies about a harmless insurrection. There are laws against this kind of hate speech.

You're not allowed to burn the American flag, and you're not allowed to speak out against the Leader. This goes against everything you hold dear about the great nation of America.

Do you concur?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 3:49pm

lee wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 3:20pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 1:37pm:
https://news.sky.com/story/former-maga-cult-member-rejects-capitol-riot-pardon-f...



That can't be right. Skynews is the devil incarnate according to the lefties. All misinformation. ;)


It's hard to make an informed assessment, Lee. You don't get Sky over in WA.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by lee on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 3:55pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 3:25pm:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/sky-news-australia/



philperth2010 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 3:25pm:
Their News is generaly accurate because of Australia's media laws.


So you disagree with your lefty peers. ;D ;D ;D ;D

"Further, they promote conspiracy theories regarding coronavirus and climate change and do not report favorably on immigration."

Greta is a true believer she pontificates to the UN on climate change. But the science is not settled. The models still don't do clouds well. ;)


Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 4:00pm

Panther wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 12:25pm:
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Justice Denied No Longer.......Go Out & Be Free!!!

[media width=830]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGy7JX4ZQPY[/media]

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Good point, Panther. Mr Trump is upholding the rights of citizens to engage in political action and take control of their nation's Capitol.

Do you think he'll extend the same right to citizens attending the White House?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 4:07pm

lee wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 3:55pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 3:25pm:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/sky-news-australia/



philperth2010 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 3:25pm:
Their News is generaly accurate because of Australia's media laws.


So you disagree with your lefty peers. ;D ;D ;D ;D


Sky's regulated by the Broadcasting Services Act, Lee. This regulates the national standards for news and commentary, respectively.

What's your own position on Sky?

As an unbiased observer, I mean.

Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by lee on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 4:07pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 3:49pm:
You don't get Sky over in WA.



Poor petal. Deliberately obtuse again. It is on Fox, that doesn't mean I watch it. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I even had to do a search to find it. ;)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 5:31pm

Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages"

Has Melania been released yet?

Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by Bobby. on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 5:37pm

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/31/1167319814/qanon-shaman-jacob-chansley-capitol-riot-early-release-reentry


He was sentenced to sentenced to 41 months in prison for wearing a clown costume -  WTF?

He's free now.
Thanks Don.


Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 5:50pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 5:31pm:
Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages"

Has Melania been released yet?


Not yet, Greggery. She's incarcerated in Trump Tower, where they wheel her out to various public events from time to time, picking up her pay packet in the way out.

She's found a new way to keep him off. As ever, Melania uses fashion to make a statement.

Here she is in her little black dress and hat with the Trump-repellant brim.

No flies on Mel, eh?
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Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by philperth2010 on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 5:51pm
Who would have ever thought the United States injustice system could be so corrupted....A President can commit crimes and not face any accountability....Presidents can pardon their families and violent criminals despite their guilt and lack of remorse....America is so corrupt is it any wonder a convicted fellon is now leading their Nation....What a bullshit system the Yank's have created!!!

::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by Leroy on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 5:58pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 5:51pm:
Who would have ever thought the United States injustice system could be so corrupted....A President can commit crimes and not face any accountability....Presidents can pardon their families and violent criminals despite their guilt and lack of remorse....America is so corrupt is it any wonder a convicted fellon is now leading their Nation....What a bullshit system the Yank's have created!!!

::) ::) ::)


The justice system you have so much faith in when you call Trump a convicted felon when I doubt you even know what his conviction was.

Now you are also complaining the very same system is corrupt.



Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 6:05pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 1:37pm:
A cult....A narcissist....Guilty....Allowed to walk free....At least one cult member has seen through Trump's bullshit!!!


Quote:
Former 'MAGA cult' member rejects Capitol riot pardon from 'narcissist' Trump

Pamela Hemphill says the mass reprieve could embolden far-right extremist groups such as the Proud Boys and lead to more violence.

A former Trump supporter jailed over the US Capitol riots has said she's rejected the president's pardon after seeing through the "MAGA cult".

Pamela Hemphill told Sky's The News Hour with Mark Austin it would be a "slap in the face to the rule of law, the Capitol police officers and to our nation".

Ms Hemphill was jailed for 60 days for her role and admitted she was part of what she now calls the "MAGA cult".


She said the Capitol attack "was an insurrection" and she didn't "want to be a part of helping them rewrite history" by accepting the pardon and having her conviction erased.

"I was guilty. I pleaded guilty," she added.


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https://news.sky.com/story/former-maga-cult-member-rejects-capitol-riot-pardon-from-narcissist-trump-13294535


I've highlighted the most important part...

Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by philperth2010 on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 6:07pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 5:58pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 5:51pm:
Who would have ever thought the United States injustice system could be so corrupted....A President can commit crimes and not face any accountability....Presidents can pardon their families and violent criminals despite their guilt and lack of remorse....America is so corrupt is it any wonder a convicted fellon is now leading their Nation....What a bullshit system the Yank's have created!!!

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The justice system you have so much faith in when you call Trump a convicted felon when I doubt you even know what his conviction was.

Now you are also complaining the very same system is corrupt.


Trump was convicted in a court of law like the Jan 6th criminals....Trump was convicted of 34 charges of trying to influence the 2016 election dickhead....The pardon system is corrupt and so is a system that allowes the Comander in Chief to commit crimes....What a bullshit ststem....You have no idea what you are ranting about as usual!!!

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by Bobby. on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 6:11pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 6:07pm:
Trump was convicted in a court of law like the Jan 6th criminals....Trump was convicted of 34 charges of trying to influence the 2016 election dickhead....The pardon system is corrupt and so is a system that allowes the Comander in Chief to commit crimes....What a bullshit ststem....You have no idea what you are ranting about as usual!!!

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Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 6:11pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 5:51pm:
Who would have ever thought the United States injustice system could be so corrupted....A President can commit crimes and not face any accountability....Presidents can pardon their families and violent criminals despite their guilt and lack of remorse....America is so corrupt is it any wonder a convicted fellon is now leading their Nation....What a bullshit system the Yank's have created!!!

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He has also gone around the Judges again by pardoning two police officers who were convicted for killing a man in a police chase that was unauthorised, two police officers who were found guilty by a jury of their peers. But apparently this isn't good enough for Trump, so he has pardoned them.

Judge Beryl Howell, who was the chief of the DC District Court at the time of the riot said, “No ‘process of national reconciliation’ can begin when poor losers, whose preferred candidate loses an election, are glorified for disrupting a constitutionally mandated proceeding in Congress and doing so with impunity. No ‘national injustice’ occurred here, just as no outcome-determinative election fraud occurred in the 2020 presidential election. That merely raises the dangerous specter of future lawless conduct by other poor losers and undermines the rule of law,” Howell added.

Howell, like several of the other judges in DC’s federal court this week, agreed to dismiss pending Capitol riot cases because Trump’s Justice Department no longer wants to prosecute them.

But Chutkan and Howell refused to grant the Justice Department its request for dismissal “with prejudice” for three Capitol riot defendants, including one who was a Proud Boys extremist group chapter leader. Instead, the two judges simply dismissed three rioters’ cases, leaving open the possiblity charges could be brought again later.

“In hundreds of cases like this one over the past four years, judges in this district have administered justice without fear or favor,” Chutkan also wrote. “The historical record established by those proceedings must stand, unmoved by political winds, as a testament and as a warning.”

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/22/politics/federal-judges-speak-out-january-6-pardons/index.html

Title: Re: ⮞⮞⮞ Judges Begin Freeing Jan. 6 "Hostages" ⮜⮜⮜
Post by Karnal on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 6:13pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 5:37pm:
https://www.npr.org/2023/03/31/1167319814/qanon-shaman-jacob-chansley-capitol-riot-early-release-reentry


He was sentenced to sentenced to 41 months in prison for wearing a clown costume -  WTF?


Jacob Chansley pleaded guilty and served 18 months for obstructing police, carrying a spear into the US Senate, sitting in the Speaker's chair for selfies and obstructing the peaceful transfer of power during the only breach of the Capitol in US history.

He deeply regretted his actions and accepted his sentence. He admitted to threatening police and said he felt terrible for causing, as he put it, fear in others.

"I have no excuse," Chansley said. "No excuses whatsoever. My behavior is indefensible."

And not just that. "I am truly, truly repentant for my actions, because repentance is not just saying you're sorry," he said. "Repentance is apologising and then moving in the exact opposite direction of the sin that you committed".

Fair enough. I guess he's repented on his repentance. You get that, no?

Panther's done it plenty of times.

You?

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