Getting directly to media promoted spacecraft travel are fantasy Lies.

     Earth is travelling around the sun at ruffly 67,000 mph. If outer space within earth’s orbit of the sun had any atmosphere, that atmosphere would strip away earth’s atmosphere. Rocket propulsion exhaust pushing against earth’s atmosphere to obtain enough speed to maintain an orbit around earth, rocket propelled spacecraft once having left earth’s atmosphere are travelling on 14,700 mph plus momentum to hold an earth’s orbit. Once rocket engine spacecraft are in a no atmosphere orbit, expelling weight in one direction pushes spacecraft in the opposite direction similar to firing bullets recoil action. Launching spacecraft into an orbit, weight limits while in outer space limit small directional adjustments.

     Liquid rocket fuel requires oxygen to burn, as outer space has zero oxygen spacecraft have to carry oxygen in liquid form held in pressurised containers assuming made of metal. As expanding gas has zero push influences on spacecraft, any witnessing on media stories of flames coming out of rocket exhausts are mere faked images.

     Spacecraft have to carry large amounts of weighed material to be used to alter direction while travelling towards it’s intended media fake story destination.
     When witnessing spacecraft entering earth’s orbit, no extra storage space past the initial payload purpose: satellite; manned cap-cell… Media documentaries shown history of space travel explains mere obtaining earth’s orbit spacecraft need to ditch a booster rocket while continuing to burn fuels to obtain enough momentum to gain altitude above earth’s thinnest atmosphere altitude at a speed to hold an altitude for many years.
     Going to the moon 240,000 mile from earth is far far further away from earth when considering effort required to enter earth’s low altitude orbits.
     A story stated by NASA engineers on a documentary about Apollo missions going to the moon, the slingshot Apollo modules theory is an obvious lie, spacecraft aren’t attached to a string, with a hand pulling on a sting in a circular motion pulling the sling shot rock in a desired direction.
     Another NASA engineering in space media story stating a rocket engine boost burn obtaining 26,000 mph speed required to send Apollo modules to the moon, falling into the moon’s orbit at 3,000 mph, 65 miles above the moon's surface, as my above statements indicate rocket engine exhausts don’t work in outer space vacuum and that spacecraft on entering earth’s orbit said to be going to the moon have no seen capable space for carrying increased weight for manipulating spacecraft.

     If spacecraft could travel to other planets, exampling the moon, moon having one sixth the gravity of earth, moon’s gravity extends to earth, influencing earth ocean tides, due to earth 24 hour rotation if earth had longer days, moon’s influence on tides would be increased. Spacecraft taking 4 days to get to the moon, moon gravity would influence spacecraft’s path direction.
     Any spacecraft travelling to the moon, the moon’s gravity would pull spacecraft directly into the centre of the moon, my assumption no amount of spacecraft propulsion influence could prevent a spacecraft high speed crash on the moon’s surface.

     Taking off from the moon as shown on the last Apollo mission, a sudden explosion between Apollo landing module and Apollo module stand propelling 15,000 pound weight of the many Apollo modules upwards is another obvious lie. In order to move heavy weighed objects, objects need increased sustained momentum, exampling bullets require a barrel, gunpowder have time period burn used to increase the speed on bullets as bullets travel down barrels. The longer the barrel the further bullets travel. What’s seen on the Apollo module liftoff from the moon was earth studio faked. As the camera on the said buggy pans upwards, the camera scene shows the Apollo module using a fire burning rocket to continue the module gaining altitude away from the moon surface which the landing module had to travel 65 miles and speed up from almost 0 mph to 3,000 mph to dock with the Apollo Orbiting Module... does the fantasy story get any more impossible.

     Scenes shown Apollo landing module docking with the orbiting module have thinkable faults, one being no exhaust liquids were seen from Apollo landing module manoeuvring exhausts jets.

     Stated Apollo 11 module fell back to earth reaching Earth’s atmosphere at 24,000 mph, the path of Apollo modules shown to have not been so influenced by earth’s 6 times stronger than the moons gravity, Apollo modules entered earth’s orbit as thought Apollo module was circling earth at least once before reentering earth’s atmosphere, splashing down in an ocean, camera distance from Richard Nixon on an aircraft carrier.

     I’m sure even though above evidence seems credible self-judge to be highly intelligent readers will refuse to believe they can be fooled. My Mr X mention previously states “if Penn and Teller states men have walked on the moon surface, he believes Penn and Teller not engineering arguments”. So much of a big head narcissist Mr X refuses to believe he’s been fooled.

     There are people whom cannot believe they can be fooled and or that governments use media to tell many manipulating lies.

Steve9

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the writer of the OP is an avid Trump supporter ::)

There's way too much evidence, Mr Spok, Mork, My Favorite martian.

Science in regards to outer space has become a fantasy land as Scientists are forced to pump out papers for business reasons and fundings, regardless of how farcical. Whatever sells.
Every exo planet 'may have life's, may have water. Ridiculous physics of papers promoting interstellar travel. Right up there leading the pack to get fundings is the plot of colonising Mars!
NASA has become like a Star Wars merchandising company.

I tried surfing at high tide but got pulled to the moon at 24,000 mph.  Excess stomach gas was all that saved me on the return trip.

Steve7 has no understanding of science whatsoever -

he needs to finish high school.    ::)

I still suspect Steve is some sort of bot.  :-/

'Earth is travelling around the sun at ruffly 67,000 mph.'

That's exactly how it looks.

Did you know that Uranus farts plasma, like the Sun does solar flares.

Fact.

You're thinking of urine.

No. I was thinking of Uranus.
Now bend over and let Dr Aye-Aye from Madagascar check your prostate.

Jasin and Peccary.

Sorry Chims. You gave me an opening to poke some fun at.  :D

It is now closed.

     To further elaborate: liquid oxygen stored in containers covered with insulation to maintain cold temperatures to maintain oxygen as a liquid, witnessing oxygen storage containers being constantly topped up with cold liquid oxygen, once the rocket has launched topping up oxygen hoses are removed and intake valves closed. A need for liquid oxygen to turn to a gas due to rising temperatures aids forcing oxygen into combustion chambers mixing with liquid combustible fuels. Resulting heat expands liquids into hot gases forcing gases out rocket engine exhausts. My point being gases are still determined as “mass”.
     As atmosphere is a gas also determined as “mass” mass pushing against mass provides thrust. Once rocket propelled spacecraft leave an atmosphere mass propulsion has no atmosphere mass to push against.
     In orbit earth launched satellites travel for years in a no atmosphere no mass to slow the ruffly 17,000 mph speeds needed to maintain orbit. The only influence rocket exhaust have in a no atmosphere space is the weight gasses have aided by the speed gasses are forced out of exhaust jets. I assume such weight direction influences are far less effective to what rocket engines can achieve while in an atmosphere.

     Gravity of earth extends far out into outer-space, while spacecraft enter earth’s orbit, obtaining increased speeds to travel to the moon stated several times to be 26,000 mph to a not stated constant pull from earth’s gravity, is impossible due to the no atmosphere zero mass rocket engines have to push against, plus rocket engine exhaust gas flow must have a limited thrust ability limiting how fast rocketed craft can travel.

     All space probes media stories are lies, a stated old idea that stated stories are: of events happened long ago; stuff too small to see; happened far far away…  exampling; bible stories; too small to see DNA; future plans to go to Mars. Such stories are difficult to argue against and or people are too brain lazy to care, being truthful to people whom are starving for stimulating brain chemical medicating entertainment to aid overcoming fears of anxiety through to depression, people with child intelligence believe what they’re told, have blind faith in story tellers, to doubt requires unhurried time and a degree of thought.

     Science space travel creating blind youthful enthusiasm I theorise encourages capable thinking youth to pursue school learning exam scores to obtain a career in something scientific. By pursuing school learning children are distracting their brain from self-awareness good realisation thinking behaviours in favour of studying government provided pointless to think with above mentioned knowledge.

     As evolution programmed human behaviour to feel stimulated by learning how to fulfil tasks to stay alive, breading to next generation with similar traits, I say evolution has created human curiosity into detailed analysing, wanting to know how stuff works. Government driven school education 6 hours each school day has punished human curiosity to more Neanderthal emotional driven decision making behaviours, exampling enthusiasm for physical ball chasing sports. Simple anticipation for what happens next: who wins the next point; which horse passes the finish post first; how many television quiz show general knowledge questions viewers can know the answers, often speed to remember to react by pushing a button being a main points winner task.

     I suddenly realised a theory that primary school children whom spend several hours being mentally stressed by teacher’s instructions, as children go to launch brakes the need to run around to play a sport and argue who scored what, the burning off cortisol induced adrenaline feels highly distracting from mental stress learning traumas awareness. Children aren’t aware they’re being programmed to love sports activities to self-medicate punishing basic thinking brain activities.

     Narcissism, being big headed, wanting to believe the self is more intelligent than every other person they associate with, being a specialist at a particular knowledge while ignoring difficult to understand knowledge, watching sports entertainment, becoming brain chemically enthusiastic brain chemically boosts self-esteem of they’re believed intelligence to judge themselves to be more intelligent than other persons around them, judging speed reactions as a positive factor.

     If people want to learn something to improve career opportunities, people have to attend some government controlled accredited education system. Governments don’t care about truly providing a correctly educated to think person system of learning. Governments want to control people’s thinking behaviours, guide people towards sports. Governments don’t want people to realise how brains are being manipulated to believe in democracy’s two party system first to the pole voting, locking out unwanted candidates. That those crazy people whom enter parliament are part of the rigged system, following the two party policies.

     Exampling by father was an extreme big headed self-believed to be intelligent person, devoted his spare time to following politics, voted Labor, yet he didn’t know anything, last days of his life, I heard him say to my brother, “I don’t follow politics anymore because they keep changing they’re minds”.

steve9

chimera wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 3:01pm:

I tried surfing at high tide but got pulled to the moon at 24,000 mph.  Excess stomach gas was all that saved me on the return trip.

I nearly spat me teef out  ;D

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Bobby. wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 3:02pm:

Steve7 has no understanding of science whatsoever - he needs to finish high school.    ::)

Maybe you should go back and study some physics bobs..  ;)

“Its harder to convince a man that he’s been fooled than it is to Fool him in the first place”

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If only there was a way back to the 60s to reengineer this masterpiece of space technology 🤔

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SerialBrain9 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2025 at 1:36pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 6th, 2025 at 3:02pm: Steve7 has no understanding of science whatsoever - he needs to finish high school.    ::) Maybe you should go back and study some physics bobs..  ;) “Its harder to convince a man that he’s been fooled than it is to Fool him in the first place”

I am one of the very few here with a proper science background.

See my thread:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1736078174/15#15


forgiven

namaste

Bobby. wrote on Feb 11^th, 2025 at 5:06pm:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Feb 11th, 2025 at 1:36pm: Bobby. wrote on Feb 6th, 2025 at 3:02pm: Steve7 has no understanding of science whatsoever - he needs to finish high school.    ::) Maybe you should go back and study some physics bobs..  ;) “Its harder to convince a man that he’s been fooled than it is to Fool him in the first place” I am one of the very few here with a proper science background. See my thread: https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1736078174/15#15 forgiven namaste

You will understand then - that the most aerodynamic and powerful jet in the world is about to be ripped to shreds at 2200 Miles per hour

Then who on earth would believe that a smacking Brick can fly at 21,000 Miles Per Hour with ease?

The absolute insanity that people believe is breathtaking…  :D

Here’s another one for you Bobs…

Although space is a massive vacuum…

Our Oxygen around the world - just stays there without disappearing out to space somewhere…

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Dear Serial,
you are very puzzled person -
you need to study science at university.

Your questions will be answered.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 11^th, 2025 at 6:33pm:

Dear Serial, you are very puzzled person - you need to study science at university. Your questions will be answered.

Oh yeah…

That smoke and mirrors poo….  :D

You need to read the Bible Bobs….

University is full of DEI Wankers hellbent on making you stupid and  Trans…  :D

SerialBrain9 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2025 at 6:34pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 11th, 2025 at 6:33pm: Dear Serial, you are very puzzled person - you need to study science at university. Your questions will be answered. Oh yeah… That smoke and mirrors poo….  :D You need to read the Bible Bobs…. University is full of DEI Wankers hellbent on making you stupid and  Trans…  :D

You will need to have a PhD before anyone will even listen
to your doubts about current science theories and physical laws.

You need to be Doctor Serial.