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Message started by mothra on Feb 8th, 2025 at 2:32pm

Title: Trump sanctions ICC
Post by mothra on Feb 8th, 2025 at 2:32pm
Dozens of countries speak out against Trump sanctions on ICC

Karim Khan, court’s British chief prosecutor, said to be focus of move decried as attack on international rule of law


Governments around the world have rushed to defend the international criminal court (ICC) after Donald Trump launched sanctions against the global body, which is seen as a vital last resort to prosecute powerful individuals accused of atrocities including war crimes and genocide.

Set up more than two decades ago to serve as an impartial and incorruptible body that had the heft to take on criminals – from militant warlords to heads of state – the ICC has found itself under attack from Washington at a time when it is investigating shocking violence in Gaza.


The US president signed an executive order on Thursday authorising aggressive economic sanctions against the ICC and travel bans on its staff, accusing the court of “illegitimate and baseless actions” targeting the US and its ally Israel.

Trump’s order cited an ICC-issued arrest warrant for Benjamin Netanyahu for alleged war crimes relating to the Gaza war as a reason for the decision. Netanyahu visited Washington this week and praised Trump as Israel’s “greatest friend”.

The US has not yet disclosed who will be sanctioned under the order, but four sources with knowledge of the situation said the ICC’s British chief prosecutor, Karim Khan, is the first and only individual to be targeted so far.

Responding to the order on Friday, the ICC called on its 125 state parties to stand against the sanctions, describing Washington’s move as an attempt to “harm its independent and impartial judicial work”.

Seventy-nine countries – including Brazil, Canada, Denmark, Mexico and Nigeria – released a joint letter that warned sanctions would “increase the risk of impunity for the most serious crimes and threaten to erode the international rule of law”.

Longtime US allies have found themselves at odds with Washington, while the head of a leading global rights group called it “vindictive”.

The German chancellor, Olaf Scholz, said sanctions would “jeopardise an institution that is supposed to ensure that the dictators of this world cannot simply persecute people and start wars”.

France said it would reaffirm its support for the ICC and mobilise with its partners so that the ICC could continue its mission. In London, a spokesperson for the UK prime minister, Keir Starmer, said Britain supported the independence of the court.

The European Commission president, Ursula von der Leyen, said the ICC gave “a voice to victims worldwide” and it “must be able to freely pursue the fight against global impunity”, while the main UN rights agency said Trump’s decision should be reversed.

In his order, Trump said the ICC had “abused its power” by issuing the warrants for Netanyahu and his former defence minister Yoav Gallant, which he claimed “set a dangerous precedent” that endangered US citizens and its military personnel. Netanyahu strongly applauded Trump’s move, calling it bold.

Trump’s predecessor Joe Biden acted as Israel’s most prominent international defender as it pursued a devastating war in Gaza, and called the ICC warrants issued in November “outrageous”.

Trump, who used the term “Palestinian” as a slur during a campaign debate, has gone further, suggesting Gaza should be “cleaned out”.

Earlier this week, Trump presented a proposal for a US takeover of Gaza that would require the removal of about 2 million Palestinians to neighbouring countries, a plan lauded by Netanyahu but widely condemned as a blueprint for ethnic cleansing.

Egypt, which borders Gaza, intensified calls with Arab partners on Friday, including Jordan, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, to stress its rejection of any measures aimed at displacing Palestinians, its foreign ministry said.

Trump’s proposal has also thrown uncertainty over a fragile Gaza ceasefire deal that was reached last month.

The ICC was established in 2002 to prosecute serious crimes committed by individuals when member states are unwilling or unable to do so themselves. While the US and Israel are not parties to the statute, their citizens can fall under its jurisdiction. Israel has other allies such as the UK, Germany and France who would be obliged to arrest Netanyahu if he were to travel to those countries.

The warrants for Netanyahu and Gallant were approved by a three-judge panel elected by state parties, and an arrest warrant has also been issued for the Hamas military leader Mohammed Deif, whose whereabouts is unknown. In 2021, the ICC ruled that it had jurisdiction in Palestine and could investigate crimes there, despite Israeli objections.

Amnesty International’s secretary general, Agnès Callamard, said Trump’s order “sends the message that Israel is above the law and the universal principles of international justice”.

She said on Thursday: “Today’s executive order is vindictive. It is aggressive. It is a brutal step that seeks to undermine and destroy what the international community has painstakingly constructed over decades, if not centuries: global rules that are applicable to everyone and aim to deliver justice for all.”

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2025/feb/07/international-criminal-court-condemns-trump-sanctions-on-its-staff


Title: Re: Trump sanctions ICC
Post by Baronvonrort on Feb 8th, 2025 at 5:01pm
The Guardian...pmsl
:D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

Israel and US aren't bound by ICC they didn't sign Rome Statute.

US will cut funding to ICC and UNRWA they have also stopped all foreign aid to South Africa


https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/imposing-sanctions-on-the-international-criminal-court/



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Title: Re: Trump sanctions ICC
Post by chimera on Feb 8th, 2025 at 5:10pm
'2019. The Jewish state was condemned in a resolution for allegedly being the “major obstacle” for Palestinian women “with regard to their advancement, self-reliance, and integration in the development of their society.”'

That's not how Nikki Haley put it.

Title: Re: Trump sanctions ICC
Post by Karnal on Feb 8th, 2025 at 6:18pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8th, 2025 at 5:01pm:
The Guardian...pmsl
:D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

Israel and US aren't bound by ICC they didn't sign Rome Statute.

US will cut funding to ICC and UNRWA they have also stopped all foreign aid to South Africa


https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/imposing-sanctions-on-the-international-criminal-court/


How do you feel about the ICC's indictment of Hamas, Baron?

Would you like to see them on trial for the October attacks?

Title: Re: Trump sanctions ICC
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 8th, 2025 at 6:22pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 8th, 2025 at 6:18pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8th, 2025 at 5:01pm:
The Guardian...pmsl
:D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

Israel and US aren't bound by ICC they didn't sign Rome Statute.

US will cut funding to ICC and UNRWA they have also stopped all foreign aid to South Africa


https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/imposing-sanctions-on-the-international-criminal-court/


How do you feel about the ICC's indictment of Hamas, Baron?

Would you like to see them on trial for the October attacks?


Baron's a law & order man.

Surely he wants to see Hamas brought to justice.


Title: Re: Trump sanctions ICC
Post by chimera on Feb 8th, 2025 at 6:26pm
Putin 1. Trump 0.

Title: Re: Trump sanctions ICC
Post by Bobby. on Feb 8th, 2025 at 6:27pm
This man agrees with Mothra:

Cenk Uygur reacts to Trump’s displacement plan



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1y2WAFhPac


Title: Re: Trump sanctions ICC
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 8th, 2025 at 6:29pm

chimera wrote on Feb 8th, 2025 at 6:26pm:
Putin 1. Trump 0.


Canada 1.  Trump 0.

Mexico 1.  Trump 0.

Birthright citizenship 1.  Trump 0.


Title: Re: Trump sanctions ICC
Post by Gordon on Feb 8th, 2025 at 6:34pm

mothra wrote on Feb 8th, 2025 at 2:32pm:
Dozens of countries speak out against Trump sanctions on ICC

Karim Khan, court’s British chief prosecutor,
https://www.theguardian.com/law/2025/feb/07/international-criminal-court-condemns-trump-sanctions-on-its-staff


I wonder why Karim Khan didn't expend more energy to peruse his Pakistani bretheran who groomed and raped 100000 girls in England.

Oh, I know why.....

Allegations of sexual misconduct

In October 2024, Khan faced accusations of groping a female aide, following a whistleblower report

YUCK!!!

Title: Re: Trump sanctions ICC
Post by Gordon on Feb 8th, 2025 at 6:34pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 8th, 2025 at 6:27pm:
This man agrees with Mothra:

Cenk Uygur reacts to Trump’s displacement plan



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1y2WAFhPac


Cenk in a crazy Muzzo.

Title: Re: Trump sanctions ICC
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 8th, 2025 at 6:37pm

The rapist dies inside   :)

https://youtu.be/DGIvJUqpu1Q

Title: Re: Trump sanctions ICC
Post by Frank on Feb 8th, 2025 at 8:15pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 8th, 2025 at 6:18pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8th, 2025 at 5:01pm:
The Guardian...pmsl
:D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

Israel and US aren't bound by ICC they didn't sign Rome Statute.

US will cut funding to ICC and UNRWA they have also stopped all foreign aid to South Africa


https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/imposing-sanctions-on-the-international-criminal-court/


How do you feel about the ICC's indictment of Hamas, Baron?

Would you like to see them on trial for the October attacks?

I prefer the Israeli indictment and punishment of Hamas. After all, Hamas attacked Israel, not the ICC.


You?


Title: Re: Trump sanctions ICC
Post by chimera on Feb 8th, 2025 at 8:25pm
So.
Gaza is a suburb of Tel Aviv. It belongs to Trump.  Trump and Musk Inc.

Title: Re: Trump sanctions ICC
Post by Marla on Feb 9th, 2025 at 4:48am

chimera wrote on Feb 8th, 2025 at 8:25pm:
So.
Gaza is a suburb of Tel Aviv. It belongs to Trump.  Trump and Musk Inc.



More like the American taxpayer.

Title: Re: Trump sanctions ICC
Post by Frank on Feb 9th, 2025 at 6:22am

Marla wrote on Feb 9th, 2025 at 4:48am:

chimera wrote on Feb 8th, 2025 at 8:25pm:
So.
Gaza is a suburb of Tel Aviv. It belongs to Trump.  Trump and Musk Inc.



More like the American taxpayer.



Would rather pay for world peace or sex change operations?


Title: Re: Trump sanctions ICC
Post by chimera on Feb 9th, 2025 at 6:31am
Gaza is now peaceful with very little traffic, calm supermarkets and empty sex change hospitals.

Title: Re: Trump sanctions ICC
Post by Dnarever on Feb 9th, 2025 at 1:39pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 8th, 2025 at 6:27pm:
This man agrees with Mothra:

Cenk Uygur reacts to Trump’s displacement plan



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1y2WAFhPac


Cenk 100% correct as usual.

Title: Re: Trump sanctions ICC
Post by Frank on Feb 9th, 2025 at 2:46pm

chimera wrote on Feb 9th, 2025 at 6:31am:
Gaza is now peaceful with very little traffic, calm supermarkets and empty sex change hospitals.

No good?


Title: Re: Trump sanctions ICC
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 9th, 2025 at 2:51pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 9th, 2025 at 1:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 8th, 2025 at 6:27pm:
This man agrees with Mothra:

Cenk Uygur reacts to Trump’s displacement plan



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1y2WAFhPac


Cenk 100% correct as usual.


A war criminal met with a convicted felon, at the White House, to plan the next war crime.

Absolutely disgusting, indeed.


Title: Re: Trump sanctions ICC
Post by aquascoot on Feb 9th, 2025 at 3:12pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8th, 2025 at 5:01pm:
The Guardian...pmsl
:D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

Israel and US aren't bound by ICC they didn't sign Rome Statute.

US will cut funding to ICC and UNRWA they have also stopped all foreign aid to South Africa


https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/imposing-sanctions-on-the-international-criminal-court/



unbelievable  :'( :-/

Title: Re: Trump sanctions ICC
Post by aquascoot on Feb 9th, 2025 at 3:20pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 9th, 2025 at 1:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 8th, 2025 at 6:27pm:
This man agrees with Mothra:

Cenk Uygur reacts to Trump’s displacement plan



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1y2WAFhPac


Cenk 100% correct as usual.




Uygur begins by addressing the credibility of political figures, contrasting the cast of "The View" with Joe Rogan's controversial beliefs, including his references to dragons. He argues that the credibility of political figures is often subjective and influenced by their alignment with the establishment or populist sentiments. Uygur points out that Joy Behar's unwavering support for Joe Biden, despite his cognitive challenges, exemplifies a disconnect between establishment figures and the realities faced by everyday Americans. This disconnect, he argues, is not merely ignorance but a reflection of a broader bubble that establishment figures inhabit, where they genuinely believe they are right and dismiss dissenting opinions.

Uygur emphasizes that this bubble creates a significant barrier to understanding the struggles of the average American. He believes that the establishment's focus on maintaining the status quo serves the interests of the top 10% and, more specifically, the top 1%. This perspective leads to a lack of empathy for the 60% of Americans living paycheck to paycheck, who require substantial change rather than the minor adjustments offered by establishment politicians. Uygur's insights highlight the importance of recognizing the credibility of voices outside the establishment, particularly those advocating for populist change.

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