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Message started by Frank on Feb 16th, 2025 at 6:09am

Title: We need DOGE for Australia
Post by Frank on Feb 16th, 2025 at 6:09am
Who do you think gets paid more, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in the US or his Australian counterpart, the Chief of the Defence Force?

Before we get to the cash, let’s compare the jobs. The top gun in the US leads strategic planning and joint force operations and is principal military adviser to the President, Defence Secretary and National Security Council. The US has about 1.3 million active-duty personnel and 811,000 reserves, operates more than 750 bases in more than 80 countries and is backed by a $US1.4 trillion budget.

Australia’s most senior officer oversees military planning and operations and advises the Prime Minister, Defence Minister and the national security committee. The force he commands has about 58,000 active personnel and 21,000 reserves, and operates primarily in the Indo-Pacific on a budget of $58bn.

The US has 13,043 aircraft to our 327. It has 440 ships, including 11 aircraft carriers, and 70 submarines. We have 44 ships, zero aircraft carriers and six ageing submarines.

But rejoice! There is one metric where Team Australia thumps the Yanks and the rest of the world. In our dollars the American defence boss gets $382,000 a year and, according to Defence’s latest annual report, Australia’s chief got $1,135,524 in 2023-24.

Try to get your head around that. Try to mount a coherent argument as to why Australia should boast the highest paid military man in the world, one who gets to within a rounding error of earning three times the pay of his US counterpart.

Now let’s run the ruler over our federal public service chiefs.

Australia’s top mandarin, the secretary of Prime Minister and Cabinet, was paid $1,086,846 in 2024. Here it’s hard to draw a straight comparison with the US because the structure of government is different, but let’s use the White House chief of staff as a measure.

That job involves handling the daily operations of the West Wing and overseeing the executive office of the President, which involves working with cabinet secretaries to run the government. And recall the President is Trump, which adds a degree of difficulty to the job that’s not covered by management textbooks written in this dimension. The pay for this impossible task is $294,813.

A rung down from the head of PM&C are the secretaries of Treasury, Defence, Health and Aged Care. They each take home $986,120 a year. The lowest paid of the 16 departmental heads gets a miserly $809,130. That is still more than $200,000 more than the Prime Minister ($607,471).

Search the globe and it turns out Australia has the highest paid senior bureaucrats in the world. The only serious contender for that title is Singapore. Why on earth should this be the case?


Title: Re: We need DOGE for Australia
Post by Bobby. on Feb 16th, 2025 at 7:20am

Dutton is copying Trump – a new DOGE – dept. of Govt efficiency.

Voters like that in the USA and Dutton has got on the bandwagon.

Peter Dutton wants to DOGE-ify the public service.

https://www.crikey.com.au/2025/02/12/australian-public-service-peter-dutton-efficiency/

Andrew Podger February 12, 2025

Dutton’s commitment

Dutton’s Insiders interview followed his lecture at the Menzies Research Centre. In the interview, Dutton referred to the possibility of $24 billion of savings over the four-year forward estimates — $6 billion a year — from reversing the growth in APS employees over the past three years.

Title: Re: We need DOGE for Australia
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 16th, 2025 at 1:02pm

Title: Re: We need DOGE for Australia
Post by Jasin on Feb 16th, 2025 at 1:07pm
White Flag accepted Brian 😆

Title: Re: We need DOGE for Australia
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 16th, 2025 at 1:11pm

Title: Re: We need DOGE for Australia
Post by Jasin on Feb 16th, 2025 at 1:13pm
Keep waving it 😆

Title: Re: We need DOGE for Australia
Post by thegreatdivide on Feb 16th, 2025 at 1:24pm

Frank wrote on Feb 16th, 2025 at 6:09am:
Who do you think gets paid more, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in the US or his Australian counterpart, the Chief of the Defence Force?

Before we get to the cash, let’s compare the jobs. The top gun in the US leads strategic planning and joint force operations and is principal military adviser to the President, Defence Secretary and National Security Council. The US has about 1.3 million active-duty personnel and 811,000 reserves, operates more than 750 bases in more than 80 countries and is backed by a $US1.4 trillion budget.

Australia’s most senior officer oversees military planning and operations and advises the Prime Minister, Defence Minister and the national security committee. The force he commands has about 58,000 active personnel and 21,000 reserves, and operates primarily in the Indo-Pacific on a budget of $58bn.

The US has 13,043 aircraft to our 327. It has 440 ships, including 11 aircraft carriers, and 70 submarines. We have 44 ships, zero aircraft carriers and six ageing submarines.

But rejoice! There is one metric where Team Australia thumps the Yanks and the rest of the world. In our dollars the American defence boss gets $382,000 a year and, according to Defence’s latest annual report, Australia’s chief got $1,135,524 in 2023-24.

Try to get your head around that. Try to mount a coherent argument as to why Australia should boast the highest paid military man in the world, one who gets to within a rounding error of earning three times the pay of his US counterpart.

Now let’s run the ruler over our federal public service chiefs.

Australia’s top mandarin, the secretary of Prime Minister and Cabinet, was paid $1,086,846 in 2024. Here it’s hard to draw a straight comparison with the US because the structure of government is different, but let’s use the White House chief of staff as a measure.

That job involves handling the daily operations of the West Wing and overseeing the executive office of the President, which involves working with cabinet secretaries to run the government. And recall the President is Trump, which adds a degree of difficulty to the job that’s not covered by management textbooks written in this dimension. The pay for this impossible task is $294,813.

A rung down from the head of PM&C are the secretaries of Treasury, Defence, Health and Aged Care. They each take home $986,120 a year. The lowest paid of the 16 departmental heads gets a miserly $809,130. That is still more than $200,000 more than the Prime Minister ($607,471).

Search the globe and it turns out Australia has the highest paid senior bureaucrats in the world. The only serious contender for that title is Singapore. Why on earth should this be the case?


Careful; seen on a protestor's  sign outside a USAID office:

DOGE:  'Department Of Greedy Elites'. 

Title: Re: We need DOGE for Australia
Post by aquascoot on Feb 16th, 2025 at 3:34pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 16th, 2025 at 7:20am:
Dutton is copying Trump – a new DOGE – dept. of Govt efficiency.

Voters like that in the USA and Dutton has got on the bandwagon.

Peter Dutton wants to DOGE-ify the public service.

https://www.crikey.com.au/2025/02/12/australian-public-service-peter-dutton-efficiency/

Andrew Podger February 12, 2025

Dutton’s commitmen

Dutton’s Insiders interview followed his lecture at the Menzies Research Centre. In the interview, Dutton referred to the possibility of $24 billion of savings over the four-year forward estimates — $6 billion a year — from reversing the growth in APS employees over the past three years.



trump is going to export  a lot of good ideas to australia

doge
drill baby drill
deporting jew killing nurses
end to dei
rugged individualism and personal responsibility
end to big pharma rorting the system and hopefully a promotion of good food (via rfk)
an inspiration to bend the law in the pursuit of progress
universities becoming laughing stocks
masculinity and patriotism being things of pride


the man who single handedly ended leftie power

no wonder they are pissed  ;D ;D

Title: Re: We need DOGE for Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 16th, 2025 at 3:46pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 16th, 2025 at 1:24pm:
DOGE:  'Department Of Greedy Elites'. 


Bingo!

Title: Re: We need DOGE for Australia
Post by Bobby. on Feb 16th, 2025 at 3:52pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 16th, 2025 at 3:34pm:
trump is going to export  a lot of good ideas to australia

doge
drill baby drill
deporting jew killing nurses
end to dei
rugged individualism and personal responsibility
end to big pharma rorting the system and hopefully a promotion of good food (via rfk)
an inspiration to bend the law in the pursuit of progress
universities becoming laughing stocks
masculinity and patriotism being things of pride


the man who single handedly ended leftie power

no wonder they are pissed  ;D ;D



hear hear sir Aqua,
only Trump's ideas can set us all on a new path of prosperity.

Title: Re: We need DOGE for Australia
Post by Jasin on Feb 16th, 2025 at 3:56pm
Lefties (&trolls here) can't come up with progressive ideas for the future.
They just let the old ways stumble on like a mumbling Biden.
Trump and Dutton will be joined by another British progressive Right wing PM to take this Lefty-Media Bull(shyte) by the horns.

Title: Re: We need DOGE for Australia
Post by Bobby. on Feb 16th, 2025 at 4:04pm

Jasin wrote on Feb 16th, 2025 at 3:56pm:
Lefties (&trolls here) can't come up with progressive ideas for the future.
They just let the old ways stumble on like a mumbling Biden.
Trump and Dutton will be joined by another British progressive Right wing PM to take this Lefty-Media Bull(shyte) by the horns.



Only Dutton will wipe the public service clean with his new broom.
It's full of parasites sucking the public teat.

Title: Re: We need DOGE for Australia
Post by Bobby. on Feb 16th, 2025 at 4:10pm
We had to have a change:



Title: Re: We need DOGE for Australia
Post by Bobby. on Feb 16th, 2025 at 4:18pm

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-16/peter-dutton-anthony-albanese-election-polling/104941326



Peter Dutton most likely to be next prime minister, according to YouGov poll


Exclusive by Casey Briggs
Topic:   Elections

8h ago



In short:
The results of pollster YouGov's latest MRP model suggest the Coalition would be likely to win about 73 seats, with a lower estimate of 65 and upper estimate of 80, if a federal election was held today.

The modelling indicates Labor would hold about 66 seats in the next parliament, with a lower estimate of 59 and an upper estimate of 72.

What's next?
A federal election must be held by May 17.

Title: Re: We need DOGE for Australia
Post by bubbles on Feb 16th, 2025 at 6:20pm
Maybe Frank wants a rapist running Australia as well?

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