Get rid of Trump and the Americans. It's THAT simple. Get rid of Trump, because he is too unpredictable, too unreliable, too erratic and too narcissistic. It's all about him, all about Donald J. Trump and "the art of the deal" what with his supposed mastery of deal making. He couldn't care less about Ukraine, it's people, or Russia or the rest of Europe. He just wants to be lauded as the one who came up with the deal that ended the war in Ukraine. He wants a Nobel Peace Prize. He wants to be on every TV screen in the world with news bulletins proclaiming him as saviour. His envoys and secretaries that he sent to start negotiations with Russia need to go as well, because they don't care about anything except pleasing their boss and doing whatever he says, no matter how completely and utterly insane it is.

The only way to achieve peace now is to have the only people who will be affected by it involved in the negotiations. Ukraine and Europe along with Russia, obviously. President Volodymyr Zelenskyy needs to call British Prime Minister Keir Starmer and French President Emmanuel Macron in order to have them involved in negotiations with Russia. Perhaps the EU can play a leading role, along with NATO. But because of the lunacy of Trump and the incompetence of Hegseth prior to negotiations even commencing, the Americans need to be completely left out from this point forward. America literally has no stake in this, apart from Trumps' incredibly fragile ego. he has said so himself - there's a beautiful ocean between America and them, he said. Europe and Ukraine clearly do have a stake in this and they must be the ones to take over from here. THIS is how you bring peace to Ukraine.

Can you imagine how Trump would react to other world leaders turning their backs to him and completely ignoring him while they worked out a peace deal without him? I would love to see it. His shallow, fragile ego could never cope with such treatment!

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20^th, 2025 at 11:51am:

Get rid of Trump and the Americans. It's THAT simple. Get rid of Trump, because he is too unpredictable, too unreliable, too erratic and too narcissistic. It's all about him, all about Donald J. Trump and "the art of the deal" what with his supposed mastery of deal making. He couldn't care less about Ukraine, it's people, or Russia or the rest of Europe. He just wants to be lauded as the one who came up with the deal that ended the war in Ukraine. He wants a Nobel Peace Prize. He wants to be on every TV screen in the world with news bulletins proclaiming him as saviour. His envoys and secretaries that he sent to start negotiations with Russia need to go as well, because they don't care about anything except pleasing their boss and doing whatever he says, no matter how completely and utterly insane it is. The only way to achieve peace now is to have the only people who will be affected by it involved in the negotiations. Ukraine and Europe along with Russia, obviously. President Volodymyr Zelenskyy needs to call British Prime Minister Keir Starmer and French President Emmanuel Macron in order to have them involved in negotiations with Russia. Perhaps the EU can play a leading role, along with NATO. But because of the lunacy of Trump and the incompetence of Hegseth prior to negotiations even commencing, the Americans need to be completely left out from this point forward. America literally has no stake in this, apart from Trumps' incredibly fragile ego. he has said so himself - there's a beautiful ocean between America and them, he said. Europe and Ukraine clearly do have a stake in this and they must be the ones to take over from here. THIS is how you bring peace to Ukraine.

Er.... The war started under Biden....  The one before that, in 2014, under O' Bama... tsk, tsk  :o :o

But now it's all Trumps fault.

Why didn't the Europeans sort it before Trump? While Biden and Harris were in office?  Please explain.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20^th, 2025 at 12:41pm:

Can you imagine how Trump would react to other world leaders turning their backs to him and completely ignoring him while they worked out a peace deal without him? I would love to see it. His shallow, fragile ego could never cope with such treatment!

Can you tell us which world leader would be negotiating with Putin, Trump is the only one that hasn't poo in his own nest when it comes to negotiating with Putin.

Hate Putin as much as you want but its him you have to do a deal with and frankly there is no one else in the world that is capable of that.

Leroy wrote on Feb 20^th, 2025 at 1:05pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20th, 2025 at 12:41pm: Can you imagine how Trump would react to other world leaders turning their backs to him and completely ignoring him while they worked out a peace deal without him? I would love to see it. His shallow, fragile ego could never cope with such treatment! Can you tell us which world leader would be negotiating with Putin, Trump is the only one that hasn't poo in his own nest when it comes to negotiating with Putin. Hate Putin as much as you want but its him you have to do a deal with and frankly there is no one else in the world that is capable of that.

Trump is too busy felching Putin's arse.

Frank wrote on Feb 20^th, 2025 at 12:57pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20th, 2025 at 11:51am: Get rid of Trump and the Americans. It's THAT simple. Get rid of Trump, because he is too unpredictable, too unreliable, too erratic and too narcissistic. It's all about him, all about Donald J. Trump and "the art of the deal" what with his supposed mastery of deal making. He couldn't care less about Ukraine, it's people, or Russia or the rest of Europe. He just wants to be lauded as the one who came up with the deal that ended the war in Ukraine. He wants a Nobel Peace Prize. He wants to be on every TV screen in the world with news bulletins proclaiming him as saviour. His envoys and secretaries that he sent to start negotiations with Russia need to go as well, because they don't care about anything except pleasing their boss and doing whatever he says, no matter how completely and utterly insane it is. The only way to achieve peace now is to have the only people who will be affected by it involved in the negotiations. Ukraine and Europe along with Russia, obviously. President Volodymyr Zelenskyy needs to call British Prime Minister Keir Starmer and French President Emmanuel Macron in order to have them involved in negotiations with Russia. Perhaps the EU can play a leading role, along with NATO. But because of the lunacy of Trump and the incompetence of Hegseth prior to negotiations even commencing, the Americans need to be completely left out from this point forward. America literally has no stake in this, apart from Trumps' incredibly fragile ego. he has said so himself - there's a beautiful ocean between America and them, he said. Europe and Ukraine clearly do have a stake in this and they must be the ones to take over from here. THIS is how you bring peace to Ukraine. Er.... The war started under Biden....  The one before that, in 2014, under O' Bama... tsk, tsk  :o :o But now it's all Trumps fault. Why didn't the Europeans sort it before Trump? While Biden and Harris were in office?  Please explain.

I never said Trump was to blame for this invasion. I said he is the wrong person to be negotiating peace between Ukraine and Russia. Why? He's too busy taking it up the rear from his buddy Putin.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20^th, 2025 at 1:16pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 20th, 2025 at 12:57pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20th, 2025 at 11:51am: Get rid of Trump and the Americans. It's THAT simple. Get rid of Trump, because he is too unpredictable, too unreliable, too erratic and too narcissistic. It's all about him, all about Donald J. Trump and "the art of the deal" what with his supposed mastery of deal making. He couldn't care less about Ukraine, it's people, or Russia or the rest of Europe. He just wants to be lauded as the one who came up with the deal that ended the war in Ukraine. He wants a Nobel Peace Prize. He wants to be on every TV screen in the world with news bulletins proclaiming him as saviour. His envoys and secretaries that he sent to start negotiations with Russia need to go as well, because they don't care about anything except pleasing their boss and doing whatever he says, no matter how completely and utterly insane it is. The only way to achieve peace now is to have the only people who will be affected by it involved in the negotiations. Ukraine and Europe along with Russia, obviously. President Volodymyr Zelenskyy needs to call British Prime Minister Keir Starmer and French President Emmanuel Macron in order to have them involved in negotiations with Russia. Perhaps the EU can play a leading role, along with NATO. But because of the lunacy of Trump and the incompetence of Hegseth prior to negotiations even commencing, the Americans need to be completely left out from this point forward. America literally has no stake in this, apart from Trumps' incredibly fragile ego. he has said so himself - there's a beautiful ocean between America and them, he said. Europe and Ukraine clearly do have a stake in this and they must be the ones to take over from here. THIS is how you bring peace to Ukraine. Er.... The war started under Biden....  The one before that, in 2014, under O' Bama... tsk, tsk  :o :o But now it's all Trumps fault. Why didn't the Europeans sort it before Trump? While Biden and Harris were in office?  Please explain. I never said Trump was to blame for this invasion. I said he is the wrong person to be negotiating peace between Ukraine and Russia. Why? He's too busy taking it up the rear from his buddy Putin.

Yes, but the old boy probably just misread you, Armchair. He's most sensitive to any criticism of his DL, you see.

An easy mishtake to make, no?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20^th, 2025 at 1:16pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 20th, 2025 at 12:57pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20th, 2025 at 11:51am: Get rid of Trump and the Americans. It's THAT simple. Get rid of Trump, because he is too unpredictable, too unreliable, too erratic and too narcissistic. It's all about him, all about Donald J. Trump and "the art of the deal" what with his supposed mastery of deal making. He couldn't care less about Ukraine, it's people, or Russia or the rest of Europe. He just wants to be lauded as the one who came up with the deal that ended the war in Ukraine. He wants a Nobel Peace Prize. He wants to be on every TV screen in the world with news bulletins proclaiming him as saviour. His envoys and secretaries that he sent to start negotiations with Russia need to go as well, because they don't care about anything except pleasing their boss and doing whatever he says, no matter how completely and utterly insane it is. The only way to achieve peace now is to have the only people who will be affected by it involved in the negotiations. Ukraine and Europe along with Russia, obviously. President Volodymyr Zelenskyy needs to call British Prime Minister Keir Starmer and French President Emmanuel Macron in order to have them involved in negotiations with Russia. Perhaps the EU can play a leading role, along with NATO. But because of the lunacy of Trump and the incompetence of Hegseth prior to negotiations even commencing, the Americans need to be completely left out from this point forward. America literally has no stake in this, apart from Trumps' incredibly fragile ego. he has said so himself - there's a beautiful ocean between America and them, he said. Europe and Ukraine clearly do have a stake in this and they must be the ones to take over from here. THIS is how you bring peace to Ukraine. Er.... The war started under Biden....  The one before that, in 2014, under O' Bama... tsk, tsk  :o :o But now it's all Trumps fault. Why didn't the Europeans sort it before Trump? While Biden and Harris were in office?  Please explain. I never said Trump was to blame for this invasion. I said he is the wrong person to be negotiating peace between Ukraine and Russia. Why? He's too busy taking it up the rear from his buddy Putin.

So who is going to negotiate with Putin.

No answer to that have you.

Oh wait, yes we could send Kamala over to negotiate and she can tell them stories of her growing up in middle class America ans as the first black woman (Indian black not african black) to negotiate a peace deal with Russia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud_3o1yKVWY&t=5s

Leroy wrote on Feb 20^th, 2025 at 1:26pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20th, 2025 at 1:16pm: Frank wrote on Feb 20th, 2025 at 12:57pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20th, 2025 at 11:51am: Get rid of Trump and the Americans. It's THAT simple. Get rid of Trump, because he is too unpredictable, too unreliable, too erratic and too narcissistic. It's all about him, all about Donald J. Trump and "the art of the deal" what with his supposed mastery of deal making. He couldn't care less about Ukraine, it's people, or Russia or the rest of Europe. He just wants to be lauded as the one who came up with the deal that ended the war in Ukraine. He wants a Nobel Peace Prize. He wants to be on every TV screen in the world with news bulletins proclaiming him as saviour. His envoys and secretaries that he sent to start negotiations with Russia need to go as well, because they don't care about anything except pleasing their boss and doing whatever he says, no matter how completely and utterly insane it is. The only way to achieve peace now is to have the only people who will be affected by it involved in the negotiations. Ukraine and Europe along with Russia, obviously. President Volodymyr Zelenskyy needs to call British Prime Minister Keir Starmer and French President Emmanuel Macron in order to have them involved in negotiations with Russia. Perhaps the EU can play a leading role, along with NATO. But because of the lunacy of Trump and the incompetence of Hegseth prior to negotiations even commencing, the Americans need to be completely left out from this point forward. America literally has no stake in this, apart from Trumps' incredibly fragile ego. he has said so himself - there's a beautiful ocean between America and them, he said. Europe and Ukraine clearly do have a stake in this and they must be the ones to take over from here. THIS is how you bring peace to Ukraine. Er.... The war started under Biden....  The one before that, in 2014, under O' Bama... tsk, tsk  :o :o But now it's all Trumps fault. Why didn't the Europeans sort it before Trump? While Biden and Harris were in office?  Please explain. I never said Trump was to blame for this invasion. I said he is the wrong person to be negotiating peace between Ukraine and Russia. Why? He's too busy taking it up the rear from his buddy Putin. So who is going to negotiate with Putin. No answer to that have you. Oh wait, yes we could send Kamala over to negotiate and she can tell them stories of her growing up in middle class America ans as the first black woman (Indian black not african black) to negotiate a peace deal with Russia. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud_3o1yKVWY&t=5s

Did you even read what I said? I said Europe must solve this, not Trump. So it could be Starmer and Macron negotiating alongside Zelenskyy. Or maybe the German leader or the head of the EU. But not Trump. He’s so far up himself he talks about himself in the third person!

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20^th, 2025 at 3:27pm:

Leroy wrote on Feb 20th, 2025 at 1:26pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20th, 2025 at 1:16pm: Frank wrote on Feb 20th, 2025 at 12:57pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20th, 2025 at 11:51am: Get rid of Trump and the Americans. It's THAT simple. Get rid of Trump, because he is too unpredictable, too unreliable, too erratic and too narcissistic. It's all about him, all about Donald J. Trump and "the art of the deal" what with his supposed mastery of deal making. He couldn't care less about Ukraine, it's people, or Russia or the rest of Europe. He just wants to be lauded as the one who came up with the deal that ended the war in Ukraine. He wants a Nobel Peace Prize. He wants to be on every TV screen in the world with news bulletins proclaiming him as saviour. His envoys and secretaries that he sent to start negotiations with Russia need to go as well, because they don't care about anything except pleasing their boss and doing whatever he says, no matter how completely and utterly insane it is. The only way to achieve peace now is to have the only people who will be affected by it involved in the negotiations. Ukraine and Europe along with Russia, obviously. President Volodymyr Zelenskyy needs to call British Prime Minister Keir Starmer and French President Emmanuel Macron in order to have them involved in negotiations with Russia. Perhaps the EU can play a leading role, along with NATO. But because of the lunacy of Trump and the incompetence of Hegseth prior to negotiations even commencing, the Americans need to be completely left out from this point forward. America literally has no stake in this, apart from Trumps' incredibly fragile ego. he has said so himself - there's a beautiful ocean between America and them, he said. Europe and Ukraine clearly do have a stake in this and they must be the ones to take over from here. THIS is how you bring peace to Ukraine. Er.... The war started under Biden....  The one before that, in 2014, under O' Bama... tsk, tsk  :o :o But now it's all Trumps fault. Why didn't the Europeans sort it before Trump? While Biden and Harris were in office?  Please explain. I never said Trump was to blame for this invasion. I said he is the wrong person to be negotiating peace between Ukraine and Russia. Why? He's too busy taking it up the rear from his buddy Putin. So who is going to negotiate with Putin. No answer to that have you. Oh wait, yes we could send Kamala over to negotiate and she can tell them stories of her growing up in middle class America ans as the first black woman (Indian black not african black) to negotiate a peace deal with Russia. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud_3o1yKVWY&t=5s Did you even read what I said? I said Europe must solve this, not Trump. So it could be Starmer and Macron negotiating alongside Zelenskyy. Or maybe the German leader or the head of the EU. But not Trump. He’s so far up himself he talks about himself in the third person!

Europe can't solve this unless they back down and accept and give assurances that NATO will keep out of Ukraine, its not me saying that its what Putin wants.

I can't wait to see who is going to deal with Putin if Trump is ousted from the talks and it will be the people of Ukraine that suffer the concequences.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20^th, 2025 at 3:27pm:

Did you even read what I said? I said Europe must solve this, not Trump. So it could be Starmer and Macron negotiating alongside Zelenskyy. Or maybe the German leader or the head of the EU. But not Trump. He’s so far up himself he talks about himself in the third person!

Soooooo...... Why haven't the Europeans solve it by now?

You forgot to explain.

Frank wrote on Feb 20^th, 2025 at 5:33pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20th, 2025 at 3:27pm: Did you even read what I said? I said Europe must solve this, not Trump. So it could be Starmer and Macron negotiating alongside Zelenskyy. Or maybe the German leader or the head of the EU. But not Trump. He’s so far up himself he talks about himself in the third person! Soooooo...... Why haven't the Europeans solve it by now? You forgot to explain.

Starmer thinks they can beat Russia, he's even prepared to send thousands of young men to their death.


Quote:

Keir Starmer says it's time to put boots on the ground in Ukraine and send British troops in to the country to enforce a peace deal with Vladimir Putin. The PM says the UK needs to be 'ready and willing to contribute to security guarantees to Ukraine by putting our own troops on the ground if necessary'.

Basically he is guaranteeing a third world war.

Leroy wrote on Feb 20^th, 2025 at 5:42pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 20th, 2025 at 5:33pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20th, 2025 at 3:27pm: Did you even read what I said? I said Europe must solve this, not Trump. So it could be Starmer and Macron negotiating alongside Zelenskyy. Or maybe the German leader or the head of the EU. But not Trump. He’s so far up himself he talks about himself in the third person! Soooooo...... Why haven't the Europeans solve it by now? You forgot to explain. Starmer thinks they can beat Russia, he's even prepared to send thousands of young men to their death. Quote: Keir Starmer says it's time to put boots on the ground in Ukraine and send British troops in to the country to enforce a peace deal with Vladimir Putin. The PM says the UK needs to be 'ready and willing to contribute to security guarantees to Ukraine by putting our own troops on the ground if necessary'. Basically he is guaranteeing a third world war.

Starmer never said anything about facing off against the Russians - he said he would consider British forces as a peacekeeping force to keep Ukrainian and Russian forces apart. He didn't say he would put them there to fight off the Russians.

Putin launches 642 nuke missiles and says that Starmer made him do it. 

Frank wrote on Feb 20^th, 2025 at 5:33pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20th, 2025 at 3:27pm: Did you even read what I said? I said Europe must solve this, not Trump. So it could be Starmer and Macron negotiating alongside Zelenskyy. Or maybe the German leader or the head of the EU. But not Trump. He’s so far up himself he talks about himself in the third person! Soooooo...... Why haven't the Europeans solve it by now? You forgot to explain.

I suppose they've been waiting to see what Trump would do. Now they know - he's a disaster.

Leroy wrote on Feb 20^th, 2025 at 4:58pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20th, 2025 at 3:27pm: Leroy wrote on Feb 20th, 2025 at 1:26pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20th, 2025 at 1:16pm: Frank wrote on Feb 20th, 2025 at 12:57pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20th, 2025 at 11:51am: Get rid of Trump and the Americans. It's THAT simple. Get rid of Trump, because he is too unpredictable, too unreliable, too erratic and too narcissistic. It's all about him, all about Donald J. Trump and "the art of the deal" what with his supposed mastery of deal making. He couldn't care less about Ukraine, it's people, or Russia or the rest of Europe. He just wants to be lauded as the one who came up with the deal that ended the war in Ukraine. He wants a Nobel Peace Prize. He wants to be on every TV screen in the world with news bulletins proclaiming him as saviour. His envoys and secretaries that he sent to start negotiations with Russia need to go as well, because they don't care about anything except pleasing their boss and doing whatever he says, no matter how completely and utterly insane it is. The only way to achieve peace now is to have the only people who will be affected by it involved in the negotiations. Ukraine and Europe along with Russia, obviously. President Volodymyr Zelenskyy needs to call British Prime Minister Keir Starmer and French President Emmanuel Macron in order to have them involved in negotiations with Russia. Perhaps the EU can play a leading role, along with NATO. But because of the lunacy of Trump and the incompetence of Hegseth prior to negotiations even commencing, the Americans need to be completely left out from this point forward. America literally has no stake in this, apart from Trumps' incredibly fragile ego. he has said so himself - there's a beautiful ocean between America and them, he said. Europe and Ukraine clearly do have a stake in this and they must be the ones to take over from here. THIS is how you bring peace to Ukraine. Er.... The war started under Biden....  The one before that, in 2014, under O' Bama... tsk, tsk  :o :o But now it's all Trumps fault. Why didn't the Europeans sort it before Trump? While Biden and Harris were in office?  Please explain. I never said Trump was to blame for this invasion. I said he is the wrong person to be negotiating peace between Ukraine and Russia. Why? He's too busy taking it up the rear from his buddy Putin. So who is going to negotiate with Putin. No answer to that have you. Oh wait, yes we could send Kamala over to negotiate and she can tell them stories of her growing up in middle class America ans as the first black woman (Indian black not african black) to negotiate a peace deal with Russia. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud_3o1yKVWY&t=5s Did you even read what I said? I said Europe must solve this, not Trump. So it could be Starmer and Macron negotiating alongside Zelenskyy. Or maybe the German leader or the head of the EU. But not Trump. He’s so far up himself he talks about himself in the third person! Europe can't solve this unless they back down and accept and give assurances that NATO will keep out of Ukraine, its not me saying that its what Putin wants. I can't wait to see who is going to deal with Putin if Trump is ousted from the talks and it will be the people of Ukraine that suffer the concequences.

Who says Putin has to get everything he wants? Oh yeah, Trump. He expects Ukraine to make all the concessions while Russia makes none whatsoever. That's Trump for you - he's bending over to take it up the tail pipe from Putin!

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20^th, 2025 at 6:34pm:

Who says Putin has to get everything he wants? Oh yeah, Trump. He expects Ukraine to make all the concessions while Russia makes none whatsoever. That's Trump for you - he's bending over to take it up the tail pipe from Putin!

If Ukraine has a better offer than what Trump can come up with then they should take it. But as it is right now all Europe has come up with in nothing, zilch, zero.

Biden Harris what did they do achieve in the last three years.

Who has a better plan than Trump?.

And while you are at it, what is the best plan so far for stopping the killing.

Leroy wrote on Feb 20^th, 2025 at 6:42pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20th, 2025 at 6:34pm: Who says Putin has to get everything he wants? Oh yeah, Trump. He expects Ukraine to make all the concessions while Russia makes none whatsoever. That's Trump for you - he's bending over to take it up the tail pipe from Putin! If Ukraine has a better offer than what Trump can come up with then they should take it. But as it is right now all Europe has come up with in nothing, zilch, zero. Biden Harris what did they do achieve in the last three years. Who has a better plan than Trump?. And while you are at it, what is the best plan so far for stopping the killing.

All that Trump has is for Ukraine to fold like a pack of cards and do whatever Putin wants. He has said as much. That's a non-starter for Ukraine, and rightly so.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20^th, 2025 at 7:50pm:

Leroy wrote on Feb 20th, 2025 at 6:42pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20th, 2025 at 6:34pm: Who says Putin has to get everything he wants? Oh yeah, Trump. He expects Ukraine to make all the concessions while Russia makes none whatsoever. That's Trump for you - he's bending over to take it up the tail pipe from Putin! If Ukraine has a better offer than what Trump can come up with then they should take it. But as it is right now all Europe has come up with in nothing, zilch, zero. Biden Harris what did they do achieve in the last three years. Who has a better plan than Trump?. And while you are at it, what is the best plan so far for stopping the killing. All that Trump has is for Ukraine to fold like a pack of cards and do whatever Putin wants. He has said as much. That's a non-starter for Ukraine, and rightly so.

Ukraine don't have any other option, what are they going to do attack Russia.

Lets look at it.

Warsaw pact and US promise Russia it will not allow NATO to advance to the East. Any movement would be considered hostile.

Zelensky gets elected and calls to join NATO bringing NATO to Russian borders.

Putin warns Zelensky not to try and join NATO, NATO countries talk about Ukraine joining NATO.

Putin invades Ukraine.


Yes Ukraine are going to get the short end of the stick, Zelensky played politics and lost.