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General Discussion >> America >> This is how a statesman acts, Trump! http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1740358971 Message started by Armchair_Politician on Feb 24th, 2025 at 11:02am |
Title: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 24th, 2025 at 11:02am
President of Ukraine Voldymyr Zelenskyy has shown what true class and selflessness is, character traits Trump has never and will never possess. Zelenskyy has offered to resign if doing so secures peace and NATO membership for Ukraine. This is now how a supposed "dictator" behaves. This is how a statesman behaves, who puts his country and his people before himself. That's not something Trump would ever do in a million years because as with Trump, it's all about him - the very definition of the word "narcissist".
I hope it does not come to his resigning for there to be peace and for Ukraine to secure NATO membership. He has done an extraordinary job defending his country against Russian aggression and invasion. Trump, on the other hand, is an utter disgrace to all mankind. https://www.9news.com.au/world/ukrainian-president-zelenskyy-offers-to-quit-to-secure-peace-nato-security/d8458098-734d-4f73-b300-dcd3ff3bb6fa |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 24th, 2025 at 11:23am Yep, classy act by Zelenskyy. As far as Trump goes, he's been called many things but nobody has ever accused him of being a statesman. |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 24th, 2025 at 11:42am greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 11:23am:
Yep, but try telling that to his cult members. He can do no wrong in their eyes. |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by KangAnon on Feb 24th, 2025 at 11:46am
They'll probably say this is proof that the Bidens are running the show and Zelenskyy has been nothing but a puppet this whole time.
Despite in their world, Biden is also a puppet. They aren't very smart. |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by chimera on Feb 24th, 2025 at 11:59am
Zelensky was a clown now being a politician. Trump is...
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Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by KangAnon on Feb 24th, 2025 at 12:14pm
Can you imagine how quickly Trump would fold and try to escape to another country to save himself if put in the same position as Zelenskyy...
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Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 24th, 2025 at 12:17pm KangAnon wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 12:14pm:
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Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by aquascoot on Feb 24th, 2025 at 12:40pm
zelensky has overseen the deaths of most of the young men of his country.
the emmigration of 4 million the wounding and ptsd of 3 million the destruction of his infrastructure having to hand over his minerals to either donny or vlad. and you think he's "awesome" because he sounds good on television you are deranged |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by aquascoot on Feb 24th, 2025 at 12:42pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 12:17pm:
zelensky will now do exactly has his superiors require of him and then he will head off to hollywood to kick it wirh sean penn what a total fraud |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 24th, 2025 at 12:43pm Run Fat Donny, run! |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by KangAnon on Feb 24th, 2025 at 1:01pm aquascoot wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 12:40pm:
I know it's on brand for you, especially when talking about women, to blame the victim, but it still needs to be said, you're a damn lunatic sometimes. Russia invaded Ukraine. What is with all this pro-Russia bullshit at the moment? How is it Zelenskyy's fault? Actually, I don't want to hear your excuse for having to be Pro-Russia because you're Pro-Trump. |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by KangAnon on Feb 24th, 2025 at 1:01pm aquascoot wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 12:42pm:
Would you say he's being a puppet? |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by Bobby. on Feb 24th, 2025 at 1:21pm aquascoot wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 12:40pm:
Yep , Putin and Trump are going to divvy up the goodies: Putin gets the rare earths in occupied areas - e.g. the Donbas and Trump gets the rest in Ukraine. |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 24th, 2025 at 1:21pm KangAnon wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 12:14pm:
He wouldn't even wait for Melania... |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 24th, 2025 at 1:24pm KangAnon wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 1:01pm:
I actually sincerely believe that people like him and the MAGA cult members have some physical or chemical abnormality in their brain that causes them to think the way they do, act the way they do and say the things they do. There's no other plausible explanation for their complete and utter rejection of the facts and truth and instead accepting the lies and conspiracy theories Trump and his yes-men come up with on a nearly hourly basis. |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by Frank on Feb 24th, 2025 at 1:29pm KangAnon wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 1:01pm:
How would YOU end this war? |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by Frank on Feb 24th, 2025 at 1:30pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 1:24pm:
:D :D When people like you open with "I actually sincerely believe", they are lying. How would YOU end this war? |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by KangAnon on Feb 24th, 2025 at 1:32pm
Now you're moving the goalposts, again.
Blaming Zelenskyy for everyone who died after Russia invaded isn't the same thing as how you'd end the war. That is a much longer discussion. There are geopolitical issues to consider, it's not just about Russia and Ukraine, but I suspect that sort of discussion isn't possible with someone so heavily impacted by TDS such as yourself. |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by Frank on Feb 24th, 2025 at 1:40pm KangAnon wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 1:32pm:
Not at all. YOU are blaming Trump for actually taking steps to end the war. Bidden never tried. Ir Zelensky. Nor Putin. Macron and other Europeans tried but were ineffective as usual. Ok, you don't like what Trump is doing, what the Europeans have tried was a fizzer - so what would YOU do ( other than snipe and kibitz ineffectively)? |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 24th, 2025 at 1:54pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 1:24pm:
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Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by aquascoot on Feb 24th, 2025 at 1:56pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 1:24pm:
its not zelenskys "fault" i feel for the guy and he is brave. but the fact remains, he has overseen the destruction of his young people and his country and he is STILL going to end up with the same deal he could have struck 2 years ago. so he has gained some applause from the lefties at the expense of his brave young soldiers. seems like zelensky and the left are happy to fight to the last ukranian if you cant see that is evil i pity you |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by aquascoot on Feb 24th, 2025 at 1:59pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 1:54pm:
agreed you armschair and skippy have been recruited into this bizarre death cult that wants to see young ukranian men spill their blood for what exactly? do tell? you are scared of a mild respiratory virus but you expect others to die in artillery strikes so that ? what? what do they get for their sacrifice? moron, hideous ,cowardly chode that you are |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by KangAnon on Feb 24th, 2025 at 2:39pm Frank wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 1:40pm:
Please show me where I've said this. If anything, I've said that Trump's plan aligns more with Russia's interests and is possibly why so many of MAGA are again being pro-Russia. Why should the world, again, condone Russia invading Ukraine and stealing land? |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by Grappler Deep State Feller on Feb 24th, 2025 at 2:45pm
It's all smoke and mirrors - Vlad needs to save face before it becomes a matter of shootin' Putin - so at the cost of Ukraine face, Donaldo is content to make a deal and stop the war that Vlad started.
NATO never had designs to encroach on The Incredible Shrinking Russia's borders.... is all Popov Cock, tovarish ... not to worrying about fact... |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by KangAnon on Feb 24th, 2025 at 2:47pm
So all Russia has to do is invade Ukraine, and for the sake of peace, the world tells Ukraine to just give up?
What? |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by Frank on Feb 24th, 2025 at 2:53pm KangAnon wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 2:39pm:
What would YOU do was the Q. Don't shirk it. |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 24th, 2025 at 3:26pm KangAnon wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 1:32pm:
I’m surprised he hasn’t blamed Churchill for starting WWII. |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by KangAnon on Feb 24th, 2025 at 3:33pm Frank wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 2:53pm:
Projection friend. I had asked Scoot, "How is it Zelenskyy's fault?" You then replied directly to that, to change the topic to what would be done to stop the war. The two things aren't the same, you're the one shirking questions Frannie. |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by Bobby. on Feb 24th, 2025 at 3:41pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 2:45pm:
Putin and Trump are going to divvy up the goodies: I assume - Putin gets the rare earths in occupied areas - e.g. the Donbas and Trump gets the rest in Ukraine. |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by Grappler Deep State Feller on Feb 24th, 2025 at 3:47pm KangAnon wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 2:47pm:
The world did it with Hitler! Why not with Putler? The Sudeten Russkye cannot be oppressed any longer!!! It's not a matter of Ukraine actually giving up - but of appearing to give up under pressure from 'allies' for peace at any cost. Then Vlad gets his ultimata ... a deal is on the table, same as with Ham Ass - a once and only offer - if they break the terms of the deal all bets are off... meantime Siberia now wants independence and China wants 'its' lands back... damn - that rings a bell... somewhere.... oh yes - our own personal local Gazans.... Is giving Muscovite sufficient rope, tovarich, for self hanging without assistance... you understand? If breaking rules again, inside walls of Kremlin thick enough so nobody hear you scream ... Trump brings you peace in our time..... :o ... and WW III is closing in like a winter's dusk .... the handing back of Afghanistan, and the threats of re-intervention if the Taliban got out of control again - meant nothing... you reckon Vlad and Hamas haven't noticed that? How history repeats itself.... selling out the Ukraines will not prevent further wars... (I thought the watermark note had some deeper meaning) ... |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by Bobby. on Feb 24th, 2025 at 3:52pm |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by Bobby. on Feb 24th, 2025 at 3:53pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 3:47pm:
I hope the Chinese invade Russia - that will teach Putin a lesson. |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by aquascoot on Feb 24th, 2025 at 4:05pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 3:53pm:
unlikely bobby they will probably invade taiwan america has now put the world on notice that it will not be funding the worlds defence each country will need to take 'personal responsibility" and "grow the f up" |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by KangAnon on Feb 24th, 2025 at 4:06pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 3:52pm: Every single Q like predication to date has been false, or, the launch of some meme coin... What makes you think this will be any different? Here is the letter from the Speaker inviting Trump, dated Jan 25th, keep up Bobbi: https://mikejohnson.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=1540 Also, beware Whiplash347, he's been wrong about so very many conspiracy theories in recent times, from the reappearance of JFK to grifting his followers with bogus crypto schemes... |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by Grappler Deep State Feller on Feb 24th, 2025 at 4:12pm aquascoot wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 4:05pm:
Those kinds of ventures have to trip up some time.... cheaper in terms of lives etc to put a stop to them now. |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by Bobby. on Feb 24th, 2025 at 4:17pm KangAnon wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 4:06pm:
https://www.speaker.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/1.25.25-Letter-to-POTUS-re-Joint-Session.pdf January 25, 2025 The Honorable Donald J. Trump President of the United States The White House 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Northwest Washington, D.C. 20500 Dear Mr. President: America’s Golden Age has begun. Thanks to your strong leadership and bold action in the first days of your presidency, the United States is already experiencing a resurgence of patriotism, unity, and hope for the future. Your administration and the 119th Congress working together have the chance to make these next four years some of the most consequential in our nation’s history. To that end, it is my distinct honor and great privilege to invite you to address a Joint Session of Congress on Tuesday, March 4, 2025, in the Chamber of the U.S. House of Representatives, to share your America First vision for our legislative future. I eagerly await your response. Sincerely, MIKE JOHNSON Speaker of the House |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by Bobby. on Feb 24th, 2025 at 4:19pm aquascoot wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 4:05pm:
But Russia is occupying Chinese land: Siberia, the Gobi desert, parts of Manchuria and a whole lot more. |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by KangAnon on Feb 24th, 2025 at 4:23pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 4:17pm:
Yes, this isn't some new bit of information, we've known since last Jan. Trump is currently facing a lot of criticism, so the conspiracy mill have to churn out things for his supporters to get excited about. In this case, it's something that was booked a months ago, which will be significant in that it's the first joint sitting since his inauguration. Everything else they're saying in made up. |
Title: Re: This is how a statesman acts, Trump! Post by Bobby. on Feb 24th, 2025 at 4:26pm KangAnon wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 4:23pm:
Whatever Kanga, just make sure you're watching as the secrets are revealed. I wonder if we'll hear about JFK? |
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