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Title: Peter Dutton's $30million property portfolio Post by Sir lastnail on Feb 26th, 2025 at 9:29pm Quote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14436153/Peter-Dutton-property-portfolio.html Wonder if Dutton exploited the generous tax concessions that first home buyers never get ?? What a greedy property hoarding grub :( And he wants you to vote for him because you might get a discount on your electricty bill in 50 years time when they have finally built his 600 billion tax payer funded nukula pie in the sky :( |
Title: Re: Peter Dutton's $30million property portfolio Post by Sir lastnail on Feb 26th, 2025 at 9:39pm Quote:
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Title: Re: Peter Dutton's $30million property portfolio Post by lee on Feb 27th, 2025 at 11:40am Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 26th, 2025 at 9:29pm:
So he started at 18, not yet a politician. And the story doesn't indicate over what timeframe he purchased and sold 26 properties. Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 26th, 2025 at 9:29pm:
Wow. $6 million in profits over 35 years. Good money but not outstanding. Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 26th, 2025 at 9:29pm:
Wow only 6 properties at one time. Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 26th, 2025 at 9:29pm:
And some of which may pre-exist hos parliamentary career. Much more information needed. Edit: Is his property portfolio currently $30 million, or are they adding all the properties together, despite no longer being owned? His only property now must have ballooned in price. ;) |
Title: Re: Peter Dutton's $30million property portfolio Post by Bobby. on Feb 27th, 2025 at 2:03pm Dutton will be our King in about 6 weeks. Albo will be lining up at Centrelink. |
Title: Re: Peter Dutton's $30million property portfolio Post by freediver on Feb 27th, 2025 at 2:22pm Quote:
That does not mean he has a $30m portfolio. The dailymail is clickbaiting you. |
Title: Re: Peter Dutton's $30million property portfolio Post by Sir lastnail on Feb 27th, 2025 at 3:22pm freediver wrote on Feb 27th, 2025 at 2:22pm:
Read what you just quoted. It said transactions over 35 years not the accumulation of 26 properties. The point being that he would have used generous tax concessions that owner occupiers don't get !! |
Title: Re: Peter Dutton's $30million property portfolio Post by Grappler Deep State Feller on Feb 27th, 2025 at 3:28pm
It's an election year - beware the ideas of March... we all know that politics is nothing more than a self-enrichment exercise and the deal is far too easy ...
Again - it should be a National Service on low pay and only genuine costs at market rates, and should be hard work for a three or four year sentence... not some luxury cruise for life. It's not as if they've earned it. |
Title: Re: Peter Dutton's $30million property portfolio Post by Grappler Deep State Feller on Feb 27th, 2025 at 3:29pm Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 27th, 2025 at 3:22pm:
Yes - that has to stop. The market is dead already, but we could possibly Frankenstein it back to life... Let's start by sacking councils that ban camping out for the poor..... and move on.... clearly the 'narrative' that 'housing investment will create vacancies' has failed dismally. Home Ownership First And Foremost!! A home buyer should get a tax deduction on mortgage payments and upkeep, in return for not putting pressure on the market by being homeless... pensioners, of course, should get Mortgage Assistance, same as Rental Assistance for not putting pressure on the homing market.... 8-) |
Title: Re: Peter Dutton's $30million property portfolio Post by lee on Feb 27th, 2025 at 3:47pm Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 27th, 2025 at 3:22pm:
And yet the thread title is $30 million property portfolio. Which, by the sounds of it never was. The portfolio exists only as long as it is held. ::) |
Title: Re: Peter Dutton's $30million property portfolio Post by freediver on Feb 27th, 2025 at 4:32pm Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 27th, 2025 at 3:22pm:
Read it for yourself: Quote:
Clickbait for the gullible. That you fell for. And reposted here. Owner occupiers get far better tax treatment than investors. For starters, an investor has to pay tax on any rental income they get. As an owner-occupier, the money you save on rent is a tax-free benefit of owning the house. Second, investors have to pay capital gains tax. Owner-occupiers do not, even if they essentially make it their full time job to renovate an old house. The tax environment is heavily skewed in favour of owner-occupiers. That's why Australians tend to over-invest in their own homes, and why our homes are far larger, better and more expensive than in just about any other country on earth. |
Title: Re: Peter Dutton's $30million property portfolio Post by lee on Feb 27th, 2025 at 4:36pm Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 27th, 2025 at 3:22pm:
So your super portfolio includes all your previous investments as well as the current ones? ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Peter Dutton's $30million property portfolio Post by Sir lastnail on Feb 27th, 2025 at 4:57pm freediver wrote on Feb 27th, 2025 at 4:32pm:
Clickbait for the gullible. That you fell for. And reposted here. Owner occupiers get far better tax treatment than investors. For starters, an investor has to pay tax on any rental income they get. As an owner-occupier, the money you save on rent is a tax-free benefit of owning the house. Second, investors have to pay capital gains tax. Owner-occupiers do not, even if they essentially make it their full time job to renovate an old house. The tax environment is heavily skewed in favour of owner-occupiers. That's why Australians tend to over-invest in their own homes, and why our homes are far larger, better and more expensive than in just about any other country on earth.[/quote] Surely your dreaming ! Do owner occupiers get to write off interest payments and rennovations/repairs against an alternate income stream ?? That's a moot point regarding CGT because investors get a CGT discount and the owner occupier doesn't seek to flip their properties for a quick buck. Even if they do sell they then have to go and buy another place and pay a truck load of stamp duty most likely for an increasingly inflated house price ! No win there ! The mere fact that Dutton has done it 26 times means it's not the big disadvantage you make it out to be. We also know these tax concessiopns for property hoarders take away a prospective 20 billion in uncollected taxes each year. Time to get rid of the light shoe brigade because they are just recycliong the same old dumps again and again and again. They are not doing anyone any favours and just infl;ating house prices. They are certainly not adding to the supply of housing ! |
Title: Re: Peter Dutton's $30million property portfolio Post by lee on Feb 27th, 2025 at 5:30pm Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 27th, 2025 at 4:57pm:
And "investors" who flip houses don't get a CGT discount. And investors who rent their property don't get the CGT discount until 12 months after it ceases to be a rental. |
Title: Re: Peter Dutton's $30million property portfolio Post by Bobby. on Feb 27th, 2025 at 6:09pm Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 27th, 2025 at 4:57pm:
Surely your dreaming ! Do owner occupiers get to write off interest payments and rennovations/repairs against an alternate income stream ?? That's a moot point regarding CGT because investors get a CGT discount and the owner occupier doesn't seek to flip their properties for a quick buck. Even if they do sell they then have to go and buy another place and pay a truck load of stamp duty most likely for an increasingly inflated house price ! No win there ! The mere fact that Dutton has done it 26 times means it's not the big disadvantage you make it out to be. We also know these tax concessiopns for property hoarders take away a prospective 20 billion in uncollected taxes each year. Time to get rid of the light shoe brigade because they are just recycliong the same old dumps again and again and again. They are not doing anyone any favours and just infl;ating house prices. They are certainly not adding to the supply of housing ![/quote] Hear hear sir Nail, why did the Govt keep meddling in house deals? All they did was inflate house prices and push even hard working, productive people out of home ownership to end up in a rent rut forever - with no security in their retirement. The truth is that any Govt. doesn't care about ordinary people at all. |
Title: Re: Peter Dutton's $30million property portfolio Post by Sir lastnail on Feb 27th, 2025 at 6:33pm lee wrote on Feb 27th, 2025 at 5:30pm:
Well then by that time it has gone up even more in value !! |
Title: Re: Peter Dutton's $30million property portfolio Post by lee on Feb 27th, 2025 at 6:39pm Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 27th, 2025 at 6:33pm:
It depends on the start date and end date. And all those receipts that need to be kept. It might only be 12 months worth of CGT on the ownership period. It doesn't include claims you made on the rental property expenses. ::) |
Title: Re: Peter Dutton's $30million property portfolio Post by freediver on Feb 27th, 2025 at 7:16pm Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 27th, 2025 at 4:57pm:
Surely your dreaming ! Do owner occupiers get to write off interest payments and rennovations/repairs against an alternate income stream ??[/quote] No. But you are completely missing the point. If you are not paying CGT and not paying tax on the rental savings, then you have no declarable income to claim it against. It is still a beneficial treatment. Not having to pay tax is a whole lot better than getting to deduct your expenses before you pay tax. It is not possible for owner occupiers to be worse off, because you cannot claim expenses in excess of your profit. Would you prefer that owner occupiers had to pay CGT and another tax to reflect their rental savings, but got to deduct any mortgage interest payments first? |
Title: Re: Peter Dutton's $30million property portfolio Post by Sir lastnail on Feb 27th, 2025 at 8:33pm freediver wrote on Feb 27th, 2025 at 7:16pm:
No. But you are completely missing the point. If you are not paying CGT and not paying tax on the rental savings, then you have no declarable income to claim it against. It is still a beneficial treatment. Not having to pay tax is a whole lot better than getting to deduct your expenses before you pay tax. It is not possible for owner occupiers to be worse off, because you cannot claim expenses in excess of your profit. Would you prefer that owner occupiers had to pay CGT and another tax to reflect their rental savings, but got to deduct any mortgage interest payments first?[/quote] Not according to Dutton. He is 6 million better off compared to an owner occupier living in the same home that they are paying off over a 30 year period ;) |
Title: Re: Peter Dutton's $30million property portfolio Post by Baronvonrort on Feb 27th, 2025 at 10:31pm
Dutton started flipping houses with his father who is a builder before he entered politics.
AnAl grew up in taxpayer funded public housing and still lives in taxpayer funded public housing while renting his properties. Are AnAls properties negatively geared? ![]() |
Title: Re: Peter Dutton's $30million property portfolio Post by Baronvonrort on Feb 27th, 2025 at 10:36pm
Labor politicians shouldn't throw mud when it comes to property ownership
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Title: Re: Peter Dutton's $30million property portfolio Post by freediver on Mar 1st, 2025 at 9:43am Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 27th, 2025 at 8:33pm:
Not according to Dutton. He is 6 million better off compared to an owner occupier living in the same home that they are paying off over a 30 year period ;) [/quote] Can you quote him? |
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