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Why nuclear will win the debate
Reply #60 - Jan 5th, 2007 at 6:44am
 
I found this in an investment spiel;

The world’s worst fuel shortage has driven the price of one commodity through the roof… and it’s not oil…

The yellow stuff that drives almost every reactor in the world – uranium – is under attack on three sides… While world leaders are pledging to triple the number of nuclear power plants worldwide over the next few years, the reactors already in use have eaten up more than half the world’s uranium reserves.

Add that to the explosively growing energy demand of countries like China, and you have a supply gap that dwarfs the wildest dreams of the most successful oil or coal investors. In fact, worldwide uranium demand already exceeds supply by 139%. Mines may never be able to crank up production high enough...

This has driven prices of uranium from $10.10 per pound in 2003 to over $56 today… a rise of 454% in three years. And a few stocks are poised to jump as the fuel’s price shoots higher.

You’ll get all the urgent details of the uranium boom, including…

The uranium investment that’s projected to grow from $72 million to $119 BILLION in less than two years...
Why the world’s commercial uranium reserves could be totally gone before mines can produce enough fuel to run the reactors we already have...
The “new” nuclear power plant that will turn penny stocks into blue chips and shoot larger companies The world’s worst fuel shortage has driven the price of one commodity through the roof… and it’s not oil…

The yellow stuff that drives almost every reactor in the world – uranium – is under attack on three sides… While world leaders are pledging to triple the number of nuclear power plants worldwide over the next few years, the reactors already in use have eaten up more than half the world’s uranium reserves.

Add that to the explosively growing energy demand of countries like China, and you have a supply gap that dwarfs the wildest dreams of the most successful oil or coal investors. In fact, worldwide uranium demand already exceeds supply by 139%. Mines may never be able to crank up production high enough...

This has driven prices of uranium from $10.10 per pound in 2003 to over $56 today… a rise of 454% in three years. And a few stocks are poised to jump as the fuel’s price shoots higher.

You’ll get all the urgent details of the uranium boom, including…

The uranium investment that’s projected to grow from $72 million to $119 BILLION in less than two years...
Why the world’s commercial uranium reserves could be totally gone before mines can produce enough fuel to run the reactors we already have...
The “new” nuclear power plant that will turn penny stocks into blue chips and shoot larger companies through the moon… through the moon…
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http://www.investmentu.net/ppc/t4uranium.cfm?kw=X300G533


If the stock market prices are up as dramatically as what's said in above quote a lot of people will go broke if we don't go nuclear.

I was particularly interested in the prophecy of us running out of uranium. Does anyone know how true that is?
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Re: Why nuclear will win the debate
Reply #61 - Jan 5th, 2007 at 8:35am
 
You always here the same thing about any mined product, including metals. The 'known reserves' will run out soon, which is completely true. The thing is, people don't bother looking for it if we have more than 5 or 10 years of supply available.

As for people going broke, that's the nature of the stock market. If you want to gamble on an industry as politically volatile as nuclear, you are taking a big risk and it is not the government's place to bail you out if things go pear shaped. 5 years ago nuclear was on the out in the west - no new plants and old ones getting decommissioned. Now it is coming back in again, but things could change overnight.

Another major cause of the high price of ore may be Australia's policy on uranium mining.
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Reply #62 - Jan 5th, 2007 at 9:24am
 
It really depends on who the shareholders are I suppose. If Murdoch had a large interest in Uranium his papers would promote Uranium and Nuclear.

Power means Influence.
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Reply #63 - Jan 5th, 2007 at 2:11pm
 
link to other thread: nuclear report misleading http://ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1164173429
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Reply #64 - Jan 5th, 2007 at 7:26pm
 
Who is behind the push by the government for nuclear power?  Why the rush and how much of taxpayers' money is going to be invested to initially prop this industry up?
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Reply #65 - Jan 5th, 2007 at 7:51pm
 
Maybe the whole government has sold out to the Macquarie bank. Smiley
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Aussies embracing nuclear power: poll
Reply #66 - Mar 6th, 2007 at 10:33am
 
http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Aussies-embracing-nuclear-power-poll/2007/03/06/1172943389296.html

Concerns about climate change have swung Australian opinion in favour of nuclear power for the first time, a poll shows.

A Newspoll published in The Australian newspaper reveals support for nuclear power has surged 10 percentage points to 45 per cent in four months, outstripping opposition, which has plummeted 10 points to 40 per cent.

But a vast majority - 66 per cent - are against having a nuclear power station in their local area.

The key to the shift appears to have been Prime Minister John Howard's repeatedly linking nuclear power to strategies for the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions, the newspaper reports.

The survey asked whether respondents supported the development of nuclear power industry in Australia as one of a range of energy solutions to help reduce greenhouse gas emissions, and whether they would personally be in favour or against a nuclear power station being built in your local area.



Don't go nuclear, says nuke waste expert

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Dont-go-nuclear-says-nuke-waste-expert/2007/03/14/1173722540045.html

Australia could face serious environmental problems if it went ahead with a nuclear power industry, a visiting American expert has warned.

Kevin Kamps, a nuclear waste specialist at the Nuclear Information and Resource Service in Washington DC, said marine life would suffer if superheated water used to cool nuclear reactors built on the coast was released back into the sea.

Mr Kamps said there could be no safe disposal of nuclear waste.

In the US, the proposed nuclear waste dump at Yucca Mountain in Nevada, had so far cost $US9 billion ($A11.53 billion) and 25 years work to set up.

"The earliest they can open it is 2021, but it's looking more and more likely it may never open now, so it's back to square one with our dilemma," Mr Kamps said.

But the US experience had been that marine life was seriously affected by coast-based nuclear plants, Mr Kamps said.

"Even large animals like endangered sea turtles are sucked into these cooling systems," he said.

"In one year, 933 endangered sea turtles were sucked into a reactor in Florida.



http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Nuclear-bill-fails-to-pass-upper-house/2007/04/19/1176696996514.html

Nuclear bill fails to pass upper house

A bill that would have required a statewide voter plebiscite before a nuclear power plant could be built in Victoria has failed to pass through the upper house.

Energy Minister Peter Batchelor said he was outraged the upper house's three Greens members did not vote for the bill, ensuring it was lost 18 to 20 votes.

Liberal MPs plus members of the Nationals and the Democratic Labor Party also voted against the Nuclear Activities (Prohibitions) Amendment (Plebiscite) Bill 2007.

"As energy minister I am outraged at what the Greens have done in preventing the Victorian people from having a say on whether a nuclear power plant is built in this state," Mr Batchelor told AAP.

"This has made is easier for John Howard or Peter Costello to build a nuclear power plant or nuclear waste facility in Victoria."

But Greens upper house MP Greg Barber said the bill was deficient because it did not allow the parliament to set a plebiscite question.

He also pointed to next week's ALP national conference, where overturning Labor's no new uranium mine policy will be on the table.

"The most important vote is not the one we had in parliament today, it's the one (Premier) Steve Bracks will cast as a delegate to the ALP National Conference on uranium policy," Mr Barber said.



Nuclear is part of climate solution: PM

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Nuclear-is-part-of-climate-solution-PM/2007/04/22/1177180462297.html

The Labor Party needs to accept nuclear power is part of the solution to global warming, Prime Minister John Howard says.

His comments come after Labor's resources spokesman Anthony Albanese earlier said he would push for the ALP's no new mines policy to be retained.



ALP 'not damaged by nuclear debate'

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/ALP-not-damaged-by-nuclear-debate/2007/04/22/1177180462137.html

Labor's water spokesman Anthony Albanese denies he is being disloyal to party leader Kevin Rudd by opposing his stance on uranium mines.

Mr Albanese will push for the no new mines policy to be retained at the ALP's upcoming national conference in Sydney, putting him at odds with Mr Rudd.



Rann's opposition to nuclear 'ignorant'

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Ranns-opposition-to-nuclear-ignorant/2007/04/23/1177180522426.html

The South Australian opposition has branded Premier Mike Rann's opposition to nuclear power ignorant and short-sighted.

He said Mr Rann's stand on nuclear power was at odds with his lobbying for federal Labor to drop its long-standing no new uranium mines policy.

Mr Hamilton-Smith said the SA premier had instigated a scare campaign over nuclear power when his only argument against it appeared to be the lack of a business case.

But the Liberal leader said business was in the best position to make such judgments.
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Reply #67 - May 16th, 2007 at 10:17am
 
Uranium mining support growing: poll

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Uranium-mining-support-growing-poll/2007/05/16/1178995191121.html

Australians are adapting quickly to the age of uranium expansion, with almost 60 per cent of people now supporting yellowcake exports, says the head of a nationwide lobby group.

Mainstream Australia was turning to the nuclear fuel alternative, the executive director of the Australian Uranium Association, Michael Angwin, told the second Australia's Uranium Conference in Darwin.

People recognised its environmental credentials as an energy source, its economic benefits and the abundance of uranium in Australia, he told more than 300 delegates.

Quoting statistics from an ANOP opinion poll commissioned by the association, Mr Angwin said 50 per cent of Australians supported the uranium mining industry.



Nuclear 'cheaper' than fossil fuels

http://www.smh.com.au/news/breaking-news/nuclear-cheaper-than-fossil-fuels/2007/05/21/1179601321683.html

Pricing carbon through an eventual emissions trading scheme will raise the price of fossil fuels to make nuclear energy a cheaper and cleaner electricity alternative, says the government's nuclear expert Dr Ziggy Switkowski.

Dr Switkowski told a Committee for Economic Development of Australia (CEDA) function that nuclear energy for Australia was cheap when costs associated with greenhouse gas emissions were taken into account.

"If fossil fuels are properly costed for their emissions, pollution and particularly greenhouse gases, it doesn't take much of a cost for greenhouse gas ... to close the gap.

"It wouldn't take more than a few tens of dollars per tonne of carbon dioxide per year, which is in the range of what people are thinking, to make nuclear in Australia lower cost than fossil fuels and demonstrably cleaner."

"In the 2020s, nuclear energy will be the most cost effective and cleanest form of base-load electricity that Australia has on option to consider," Dr Switkowski said.

However, director of the West Australian Conservation Council Chris Tallentine said the cost of storing nuclear waste needed to be factored into the equation.

"We need to factor in those sorts of things, when we do the cost comparisons, and when that is done properly, we'll even actually see, even with the introduction of emissions trading ... the price differential between uranium and nuclear power will be much higher than renewables," he said.



Nuclear reactors possible in Vic: Bracks

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Nuclear-reactors-possible-in-Vic-Bracks/2007/05/30/1180205295801.html

Victoria would not be able to stop a nuclear reactor being built on commonwealth land whether the state wanted it or not, Premier Steve Bracks said.



Nuclear not the climate cure: US report

http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Nuclear-not-the-climate-cure-US-report/2007/06/15/1181414500963.html

Nuclear power would only curb climate change by expanding worldwide at the rate it grew from 1981 to 1990, its busiest decade, and keep up that rate for half a century, a report released in the US says.

While the report also supported storing US nuclear waste at power plants until the long-stalled Yucca Mountain repository opens, 10 dumps the size of Yucca Mountain would be needed to store the extra generated waste by the needed nuclear generation boom.

That outlook was too optimistic in light of how many new nuclear plants are currently on the drawing board, the report said.



Fed govt urged reveal more nuke details

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Fed-govt-urged-reveal-more-nuke-details/2007/06/14/1181414465439.html

The federal government is under pressure to reveal more details of its nuclear plans after admitting discussions are underway on building a uranium enrichment plant.

A company called Nuclear Fuel Australia is believed to be studying the feasibility of a $2.5 billion plant which could be operational by 2015.



Canada approves burying of nuclear waste

http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Canada-approves-burying-of-nuclear-waste/2007/06/15/1181414495801.html

Canada says it has approved the idea of burying nuclear waste deep in the ground at a single location, a proposal that green activists say would be unsafe.



MP ducks queries on Qld nuclear reactor

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/MP-ducks-queries-on-Qld-nuclear-reactor/2007/06/28/1182624066117.html

A senior federal minister has ducked questions regarding the location of a nuclear reactor in Queensland while talking up a federally-backed plan for the energy source.

Resources Minister Ian Macfarlane on Thursday told a Queensland Media Club luncheon nuclear energy was a key component of climate change technologies as the only zero emission baseload electricity source.
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Japan quake triggers nuclear plant leak
Reply #68 - Jul 18th, 2007 at 10:50am
 
http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Japan-quake-triggers-nuclear-plant-leak/2007/07/17/1184559782193.html

More than 12,000 people prepared for a second night in evacuation centres in northwest Japan on Tuesday after an earthquake the previous day killed nine people, injured more than 1,000 and triggered radioactive leaks from a nuclear plant.

A small fire and a leak of 1,200 litres of water containing radioactive materials at Tokyo Electric Power Co.'s (TEPCO) Kashiwazaki-Kariwa nuclear power plant - the world's largest - reignited fears about nuclear safety in a country reliant on atomic power for one-third of its electricity.

Hundreds of homes were damaged and water, gas and electricity supplies were cut by the 6.8 magnitude quake that hit Niigata prefecture on Monday morning.

Nine elderly people were killed and one person was missing, a Niigata prefecture official said. In hard-hit Kashiwazaki City, a team of orange-clad rescue workers with five sniffer dogs said they were calling off operations for the day.
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Reply #69 - Jul 19th, 2007 at 11:43am
 
We are not geologically stable either - yet we can look forward to a couple of dozen nuclear reactors dotted along the east coast in the next decade.

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Japan nuclear plant 'to stay closed'
Reply #70 - Jul 19th, 2007 at 5:40pm
 
I think we're a lot more stable than japan.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/breaking-news/japan-nuclear-plant-to-stay-closed/2007/07/18/1184559862726.html

A quake-hit Japanese city insisted that the world's biggest nuclear power plant remain closed after a tremor caused radiation leaks, as the top UN nuclear watchdog said the utility had misjudged seismic risks.
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Reply #71 - Jul 19th, 2007 at 6:18pm
 
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Yes we are more stable than Japan, but we can still be called unstable.  Australia is not the right place for nuclear reactors, but politicians and businessmen tend to play it down.

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Australia is seismically active and earthquakes pose a substantial risk as demonstrated by the deadly magnitude 5.6 Newcastle earthquake of 1989 (click here for a list of some Australian earthquakes). When compared to plate margin regions such as California or Japan, the rate of earthquakes is lower, but relative to other intraplate regions, Australia's earthquake activity is moderate to high (click here to see the global seismicity map).

The level of the earthquake hazard of Australia's more active regions is roughly comparable to that of well known seismic zones in central USA. This is around 5 to 10 times lower than in California measured in engineering terms (horizontal ground acceleration with 10% probability of exceedance in 50 years). The largest earthquake that can occur in Australia is not yet known but is expected to be above Richter Magnitude 7, roughly similar to large Californian earthquakes. For example, the 1988 Tennant Creek earthquake had a Richter magnitude around 6.9, slightly larger than the 1994 Northridge earthquake near Los Angeles (Mw=6.7) that resulted in $US 15 billion and cost 57 lives. Earthquakes offshore southeastern Australia have exceeded ML=7 and different magnitudes calculations for the onshore Meeberrie WA earthquake in 1941 ranged from 6.9 to 7.2.


http://www.quakes.uq.edu.au/seis_maps/
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Reply #72 - Jul 21st, 2007 at 10:15am
 
Howard-Bush nuclear deal puts Australia at risk - Greens
20/07/07


The Prime Minister's plan to sign a nuclear pact with President Bush risks Australia's future security and environmental wellbeing, Greens Leader Bob Brown said today.

"A thirty percent reallocation of current electricity supplies through energy efficiency, to meet future industrial, retail and domestic needs is a much safer, cleaner, cheaper option to dangerous nuclear power," Senator Brown said.

"Mr Howard's proposed pact with President Bush will anger neighbours like Indonesia and Malaysia and foster nuclear installations in our neighbourhood. The massive radioactive leak in Tokyo Electrics' giant nuclear plant this week shows how dangerous nuclear power stations on Java could be."

"The Howard move will inevitably bring Australia under pressure to become a global nuclear waste dump. It will increase terrorists' focus on Australia and will create a direct incentive for nuclear power plants to be built near our major cities, like Sydney and Melbourne," Senator Brown said.

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Selling uranium to India is wrong: Rudd
Reply #73 - Aug 15th, 2007 at 7:08pm
 
http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Selling-uranium-to-India-is-wrong-Rudd/2007/08/15/1186857562643.html

The federal government's reported decision to sell uranium to India is wrong, Opposition Leader Kevin Rudd says.

The National Security Committee of federal cabinet on Tuesday decided to allow uranium shipments to India despite the fact that it is not a signatory to the international nuclear non-proliferation treaty (NPT), News Ltd reports.

Under the deal, Australian inspectors will be allowed to check that the uranium is not used for military purposes.
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Reply #74 - Aug 16th, 2007 at 3:47pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 15th, 2007 at 7:08pm:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Selling-uranium-to-India-is-wrong-Rudd/2007/08/15/1186857562643.html

The federal government's reported decision to sell uranium to India is wrong, Opposition Leader Kevin Rudd says.

The National Security Committee of federal cabinet on Tuesday decided to allow uranium shipments to India despite the fact that it is not a signatory to the international nuclear non-proliferation treaty (NPT), News Ltd reports.

Under the deal, Australian inspectors will be allowed to check that the uranium is not used for military purposes.


At this stage I think its a bad idea..who know if India can be trusted?
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