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Is Garrett a sellout?
Dec 12th, 2006 at 10:16am
 
Peter Garrett, lead singer of midnight oil, outspoken critic of government policies on the environment, nuclear and social issues, and now an MP. Has he changed his tune in order to get into the Labor party?
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Reply #1 - Dec 12th, 2006 at 6:54pm
 
Well he was a green fighting against liberal and labor policy and then

He became a labor candidate

well as i have heard many people say that he betrayed the greens and the people of australia.

His motives were for himself
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Reply #2 - Dec 13th, 2006 at 9:32am
 
Is it true he used to be the leader of the nuclear disarmament party?
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Reply #3 - Dec 15th, 2006 at 11:56am
 
There come at time in every young boy's life when it just isn't enough to nag and the hands get sweaty to hold the leavers of power.

This time has come for Mr and Mrs Garrett's little boy and good on him.

As he heads towards the PMship he needs to be aware of the awful fate of the almost forgotten Cheryl Kernot consigned into well-deserved oblivion. And attractive and useful Democrat leader became a ALP has-been in record time. Of course her love affair with Gareth Evan (shudder) did not help her prospects either; that is one trap that PG will be able to easily avoid!  Wink

Given his experience in the Green Movement Peter Garret is an experienced politician and may well prove to be an effective minister. There is no reason to believe he does not have a fair share of ability.

It is sad that he has had to climb down before the might of Rio Tinto and the mining giants, but as they are the biggest bullies in the playground he had little choice.

There is some hope, though not much, given the hatred of the Greens exhibited by many Labor figures
(they hate them more than the Tories) that once in government he will be able to deliver some enlightened policy.

He would certainly be able to deliver more enlightened policy than the grey, used-up Trade Union apparatchik who'd be holding the position if he wasn't there. At least he knows something about the environment which is more than could be said for most of them.

He may end up as Prime Minister and I for one would applaud. The environmental crisis is not going to go away because a small clique of nasty ranting reactionaries and their 'bought and paid for' scientists screech and muddy the waters. It will be the biggest issue of our time. Forget about the "War on Terrorism", its nothing but a hysterical beat-up.

In any case Garrett couldn't be worse than the Lying Rodent and his gang of head-kicking liars. I think he deserves a go.

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Reply #4 - Dec 15th, 2006 at 12:02pm
 
What did you mean by this?

climb down before the might of Rio Tinto and the mining giants
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Reply #5 - Dec 15th, 2006 at 12:49pm
 
Given the vast wealth and influence of these large corporations and the overweening power of the mining industry (since the Hawke/Keating regime largely deindustrialised the place Australia is little more than a quarry these days) in general the ALP has, I expect, had to give them some sweeties in the run-up the next federal election, or at least appear to be doing so.

Not being a fly on the wall I don't know this for certain, but it is probably true. Large corporations have in the past been known to make political parties offers they can't refuse.

When Labor wins office it might be a different story. Let's hope the Three Mines Policy stays. One thing this world doesn't need is more nuclear power. If the Romans had used it we'd still be looking after their waste today. 

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Reply #6 - Dec 17th, 2006 at 6:14pm
 

I doubt many Australians do want nuclear power when with a little investment we could have other alternatives up and running.  Unfortunately the gas, coal and uranium multinationals have our politicians up against a wall and it would take a brave person to defy them.

We can only hope that Peter Garrett - now that he's finally been given a voice in the ALP, will stick to his beliefs and dissuade Rudd against changing his mind in regard to the 3 mines policy.

Our biggest fear though is that our Foreign Review Board seems to have lost it's power and one of our biggest uranium mines in SA, is being taken over by Chinese investors.  Who knows what under the table deals are being made - as the Chinese need our resources desparately and will go to any length to acquire them.

If the 3 mines policy is changed to increase uranium mines in Australia hence exporting more uranium - it means we will then be obligated to have the World's First Nuclear Waste Dump.  That's if legislation hasn't already been passed to make this a done deal.

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Reply #7 - Dec 18th, 2006 at 4:26pm
 
Is Garrett a sellout?
I can't believe that this is even a discussion point.  I can recall a lot of people who have spoken out against goventment policy.  Many use various forms of the media to express their views.  Peter Garret has thrown in his hat to try and put action to what hes spoken about for years.  He may find along the way that politics is all about compromise.  People will moan about how he became moderate once he got into power.  However, think about where that middle line would be without him there putting forward his case.  I applaud him for his move.  I wont be voting for him but at least the guy has convictions which is more than i can say for the rest of the snivelling sycophants in charge of the country at this time.  The greens will never win anything because they are left wing idealists with a one dimensional platform.  Peter Garrett couldnt affect  any change in the greens. The tree may have changed but hes wielding a bigger stick now.

As for nuclear power.  I think you all miss the point.  Do you see the burning of fossil fuels as not producing waste?  Proportionally, all the nuclear waste ever generated will not even come close to the waste generated by coal in a decade.  Is it less of a problem if its spread almost evenly over the entire globe?  Either find a way to make renewable energy a reality or go with what has the least impact.  Either coal or nuclear, if managed improperly will result in impact.  However, manage nuclear properly and store waste correctly and you have less impact than a similarly run coal station.  And if you want to tell me im wrong thats fine.  Dont come crying to me when global warming floods your place.
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Reply #8 - Dec 27th, 2006 at 10:53pm
 
NO!!!!
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Reply #9 - Jan 4th, 2007 at 10:55am
 
I don't believe Garret is a sellout just a shrewd businessman. He made Green issues commercial in Australia.

I am interested in peoples opinion of 'Hot Rocks' energy and what the faults are with it. It may be an alternative but as pointed out someone with power needs to see money involved to back it. This is the world we live in.

With 'Hot Rocks' their is no continuiing commercial production when compared with the scale of coal or uranium.

My biggest fear is that we become too reliant on nature.
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Reply #10 - Jan 4th, 2007 at 8:00pm
 
Giving Garrett the benefit of the doubt, and assuming that he only joined Labor because he felt he could make a difference, I believe he has been seriously naive. Labor wanted him for his environmental credentials so that could attempt to portray themselves as green, while they continue their love affair with the lucrative coal industry.

My prediction is that Garrett will carry on with his empty rhetoric about saving the planet, and then when the crunch comes he will shrug his shoulders and say "well at least I tried, but I have to go with the party's decision". He's already indicated as much.
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Reply #11 - Jan 11th, 2008 at 5:11pm
 
Peter Garrett hard at work... I can't think of a better way to keep him out of trouble than sending him to antarctica.

Flight to Antarctica wows Garrett

http://news.smh.com.au/flight-to-antarctica-wows-garrett/20080111-1lc8.html

The inaugural passenger flight from Australia to Antarctica has touched down, bridging aviation's final intercontinental link and opening a new era in polar research.

It occurred nearly 80 years after Sir Hubert Wilkins first flew over the icecap and half a century since the idea of a runway was raised.

Barely a month into his job as federal environment minister, Peter Garrett had the best seat in the house as the Airbus A319 pierced the crisp blue sky and headed toward its historic landing on the four kilometre long, 500 metre deep, blue ice Wilkins Runway.

"From the cockpit, the expanse of the continent took my breath away," Mr Garrett said.

"To see the icebergs, the small amount of settlement here and nothing as far as you could see in every direction and then this runway appears as if from out of nowhere.
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Reply #12 - Jan 11th, 2008 at 5:27pm
 
What I fund particularly amusing is a party which rode to power on the back of an environmental campaign have given the job to the lamest duck in the branch.

Come in suckers...
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Reply #13 - Jan 11th, 2008 at 5:30pm
 
Antarctica could use Garrett.  He could keep the base supplied with hot air for years.
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Reply #14 - Jan 11th, 2008 at 8:32pm
 
deepy - hahahha
I wonder how his trip there helped the planet ?
At our expense of course.

About as beneficial as banning plastic bags.
The well intentioned fool
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