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AusNat Ex Member Gender:	Re: My proof for creation. Reply #180 - Jun 11^th, 2007 at 9:40pm How was GOD created.
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Classic Liberal Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 769 sydney Gender:	Re: My proof for creation. Reply #181 - Jun 11^th, 2007 at 9:42pm well god exists out of time and so he never was created. has always been.
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AusNat Ex Member Gender:	Re: My proof for creation. Reply #182 - Jun 11^th, 2007 at 9:44pm Classic Liberal wrote on Jun 11^th, 2007 at 9:42pm: well god exists out of time and so he never was created. has always been. So was life.
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Classic Liberal Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 769 sydney Gender:	Re: My proof for creation. Reply #183 - Jun 11^th, 2007 at 9:49pm life has always been? well evolution relies on the fact that it has not always been, rather that it was spurned many billiions of years after the earth came into existance.
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AusNat Ex Member Gender:	Re: My proof for creation. Reply #184 - Jun 11^th, 2007 at 9:54pm My belief is that the universe has always been around, no big bang or anything. The earth was formed 4 Billion years ago and life got here via a meteorite. Microorganisms. from a destroyed planet far away.
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Classic Liberal Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 769 sydney Gender:	Re: My proof for creation. Reply #185 - Jun 11^th, 2007 at 9:55pm and these organisms survived in the vacuum of space?
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AusNat Ex Member Gender:	Re: My proof for creation. Reply #186 - Jun 11^th, 2007 at 10:02pm Classic Liberal wrote on Jun 11^th, 2007 at 9:55pm: and these organisms survived in the vacuum of space? Yep, organisms of these sizes do not require oxygen to survive.
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Re: My proof for creation.
Reply #187 - Jun 11^th, 2007 at 10:05pm

your a funny bloke.

its not oxygen they would be concerned with.

also why would they suddenly then decide to throw away this great abiliity of being able to survive without oxygen? that goes against darwins theory of natural selection.

anway i hope you were taking the piss with that last comment.

i'm off to bed goodnight.

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Reply #188 - Jun 11^th, 2007 at 10:09pm

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also why would they suddenly then decide to throw away this great abiliity of being able to survive without oxygen? that goes against darwins theory of natural selection.

Read some scientific books pender. or is that forbidden by the church?

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anway i hope you were taking the piss with that last comment.

It is scientific fact.

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Reply #189 - Jun 11^th, 2007 at 10:13pm

Classic Liberal wrote on Jun 11^th, 2007 at 9:37pm:

to me the idea that a lifeform can create itself from nothing is as crazy as a life form being created by a god, perhaps more so.

Perhaps more so? How so?

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then this life form procreated itself?

After extensive studies, scientists have concluded that is what life tends to try and achieve

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and learnt how to survive?

That too

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and then it randomly mutated light senses?

Yes.

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the chances of this are unbelievably small

so unblievable they make a god look realistic.

My version of unbelievable and yours might be a applied a little bit different. Maybe you're looking in the wrong direction

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Reply #190 - Jun 11^th, 2007 at 10:16pm

yeah, there was a big bang alright. God spoke and BANG ! hahahhaha

He also started time. "In the beginning ..." The beginning of what ?

the ancestors of giraffes are now extinct ? And ALL that remains are the perfectly completed giraffes ??
There also are no fossils of the evolution from "something" to giraffes we have now.

maybe they was just always giraffes. KISS

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AusNat Ex Member Gender:	Re: My proof for creation. Reply #191 - Jun 11^th, 2007 at 10:23pm I looked it up, giraffes are related to the horse and their ancestors had short necks. A 15 million year old specimen was found in north africa.
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IQSRLOW Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 1618	Re: My proof for creation. Reply #192 - Jun 11^th, 2007 at 10:31pm Punctuated equilibrium.
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Reply #193 - Jun 11^th, 2007 at 10:36pm

giraffes came from horses. Does not sound unreasonable.

When did they start reaching up for higher leaves to grow longer necks ? Guessing that is how/why it happened .
Say 10 million years ago ?

So, how come some horses did not start to reach up higher 5 millions years ago too. And some only 2 million ?
We should have giraffes at all stages of evolution. All different length necks

Same as zebras, and my turtle.

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Reply #194 - Jun 11^th, 2007 at 10:45pm

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When did they start reaching up for higher leaves to grow longer necks ? Guessing that is how/why it happened .
Say 10 million years ago ?

15 Million years ago.

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So, how come some horses did not start to reach up higher 5 millions years ago too. And some only 2 million ?

Different diet i suppose.

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