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Reply #225 - Jun 15th, 2007 at 8:51pm
 
If it is evolution where are all the animals that are still evolving ?
there are only specific set breeds.

Did a group of horses start to "change" into giraffes at one set time, and none others did prior or since then ? There should be groups of 1/2 giraffes, and 3/4 ones, and 1 1/4 giraffes.
The same as "whatever" evolved into hippos ?  And leopards.
Not to mention my turtle.  Smiley
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Reply #226 - Jun 16th, 2007 at 2:24pm
 
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[quote author=freediver link=1181221460/75#81 date=1181896811]But according to Eugenics, westerners are now inferior.

You realise what this means don't you AN? You come from spoiled stock and your only chance of redemption lies in the arms of:


Alot of them are inferior due to race mixing.

I come from pure european stock, NO TURKISH, NO ASIAN. I have my family tree here which suprisingly, dates back 1100 years. We were aristocrats therefore thats the reason we kept a record.

What kind of twisted logic do you have? How could breeding with an ''Ape'' improve our genetic line?
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Reply #227 - Jun 16th, 2007 at 2:37pm
 
According to the theory of natural selection (and by implication eugenics), genetic diversity is the key to a strong, healthy population. This means ethnic diversity, not misguided notions of 'racial purity.' From a genetic perspective, race mixing is a good thing.

The European royal families mistook the inevitable result of their wealth, education, better food and better health care for inherent (ie genetic) superiority. So they only bred with other 'aristocrats.' The result was a weaker genetic makeup and diseases caused by inbreeding.
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Dinosaur mass grave discovered in Switzerland
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AdvertisementAn amateur paleontologist in Switzerland may have unearthed Europe's largest dinosaur mass grave after he dug up the remains of two Plateosaurus.

The dinosaurs' bones came to light during house-building in the village of Frick, near the German border.

"A hobby paleontologist looked at a construction site for a house and happened to discover the bones," said Monica Ruembeli from the Frick dinosaur museum.

The finds show that an area known for Plateosaurus finds for decades may be much larger than originally thought.

"It could be that the area extends for 1.5 kilometres and in that case, you could certainly say it's the biggest site in Europe," said Martin Sander, a dinosaur paleontologist at the university of Bonn in Germany.

The Frick area contained the bones of one animal per 100 square metres, Sander said, so the entire area might contain bones of 100 more Plateosaurus.

The peaceful herbivore - measuring up to 10 metres from head to tail - roamed river deltas in large herds some 210 million years ago, according to some scientists, when most of Switzerland was covered with desert and its landscape may have looked much like the estuary of the Nile now.

There are two other large Plateosaurus sites in Germany, Sander said. It is not known how big they are because one is covered by the town of Halberstadt and the other, near Trossingen, by a forest.

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http://www.smh.com.au/news/science/dinosaur-mass-grave-discovered-in-switzerland/2007/08/10/1186530565440.html
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Scientists discover purpose of appendix
Reply #229 - Oct 7th, 2007 at 5:47pm
 
http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Scientists-discover-purpose-of-appendix/2007/10/07/1191695716359.html

Some scientists think they have figured out the real job of the troublesome and seemingly useless appendix: It produces and protects good germs for the gut.

The function of the appendix seems related to the massive amount of bacteria that populates the human digestive system, according to the study in the Journal of Theoretical Biology. More bacteria inhabit the typical body than human cells. Most of the bacteria are good and help digest food.

But sometimes the flora of bacteria in the intestines die or are purged. Diseases such as cholera or amoebic dysentery would clear the gut of useful bacteria. The appendix's job is to reboot the digestive system in that case.

That use is not needed in a modern industrialised society, Parker said.

If the gut flora dies, they usually can be repopulated easily with germs picked up from other people, he said.

But before dense populations in modern times and during epidemics of cholera that affected a whole region, it was not as easy to grow back that bacteria, and the appendix came in handy.

In less developed countries, where the appendix may be still useful, the rate of appendicitis is lower than in the United States, other studies have shown, Parker said.

The appendix, which is about six to 10 centimetres long, may be another case of an overly hygienic society triggering an overreaction by the body's immune system, he said.

Even though the appendix seems to have a function, people should still have them removed when they are inflamed because it could turn deadly, Parker said.

About 300 to 400 Americans die of appendicitis each year, according to the CDC.

Five scientists not connected with the research said that the Duke theory makes sense and raises interesting questions.
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Reply #230 - Nov 26th, 2008 at 11:44am
 
What a heap of crap!

I deduced the theory of evolution by examining the real world. My theory can be falsified: just show it is the weak and unfit, Howard Huggers say, that pass on their genes.

Laws are summation of things that are observed, e.g. Boyles Law with volume & pressure of guesses.

One of my explanations, that of oceanic islands not having land dwelling life, just birds/fish/amphibians etc that could have been blown or carried by currents to oceanic islands. Some reptiles too.

These days the knowledge of the inheritance of genetic material makes my theory pretty much set in stone.

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Reply #231 - Nov 26th, 2008 at 11:51am
 
Welcome to OzPolitic Darwin.

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My theory can be falsified: just show it is the weak and unfit, Howard Huggers say, that pass on their genes.


That would falsify the theory of natural selection. This is about evolution.
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Reply #232 - Nov 26th, 2008 at 1:27pm
 
that is a good point why are animals not continuing to evolve, that is why dont we have half girrafe species or arrangutangs with more toes etc?
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Reply #233 - Nov 26th, 2008 at 2:03pm
 
Giraffe has full range already.

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Reply #234 - Nov 26th, 2008 at 2:06pm
 
The title is a fallacy. It implies that they are mutually exclusive. They are anything but.
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Reply #235 - Nov 26th, 2008 at 2:16pm
 
muso wrote on Nov 26th, 2008 at 2:06pm:
The title is a fallacy. It implies that they are mutually exclusive. They are anything but.


Yes, I agree it is like like apples vs fruits or rather like data vs process vs storage vs entities in system analyses.
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Reply #236 - Nov 26th, 2008 at 2:34pm
 
just to answer this statement from a long time ago

DILLIGAF wrote on Jun 13th, 2007 at 7:43pm:
Classic Liberal wrote on Jun 13th, 2007 at 6:52pm:
Cheesy i rest my case.

creation not scientific.

evolution is not scientific.

I do not disagree with natural selection, in fact i believe it to be very true, but evolution Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


You pender, are a MORON.  Evolution is fact. All is scientific. Do you seriously believe the human race started off with just two people?  of course you do. Because you adhere to an ''education  system'' which is over 1500 years old- when people believed in dragons and unicorns and were living in squalor.


Firstly i do not believe in the "theory" of creationism. As i said i reserve judgment as i do not know. to be perfectly honest the fact i believe in a God has no bearing on how the world came about in my oppinion. God may have instigated evolution for all i know.

Secondly which education sydnetm do you mean? I am a catholic so i guess you meant the catholic church which interestingly supports scientific theories of natual selection. whats more the church specifically states that it does not know the origin of life in scientific terms and it is happy to accept the scientific concencus of the time.

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Reply #237 - Nov 27th, 2008 at 3:17pm
 
Classic Liberal wrote on Nov 26th, 2008 at 1:27pm:
that is a good point why are animals not continuing to evolve, that is why dont we have half girrafe species or arrangutangs with more toes etc?

Do you have any idea of geologic time? But animals have evolved due to our exitence:

A moth in England was light colored but had a recessive gene for dark color. Two recessive gene carriers mated some of their offspring would be dark colored, easy to spot against light colored tree bark by predatory birds. However, as the Industrial Revolution spread and pollution started to cover trees etc the dark moths now were safer than their light colored siblings. Now, the dark gene is the dominant, not the recessive gene.

If antibiotics are injected into a patient or an insectide is sprayed most bacteria/insects die. But a few have a recessive gene that copes with that agent, these then breed and voila we have superbugs immune to our sprays and stuff.
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Reply #238 - Nov 27th, 2008 at 3:35pm
 
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Two recessive gene carriers mated some of their offspring would be dark colored, easy to spot against light colored tree bark by predatory birds. However, as the Industrial Revolution spread and pollution started to cover trees etc the dark moths now were safer than their light colored siblings. Now, the dark gene is the dominant, not the recessive gene.


That is like saying that if two blond people have a red headed kid it is evolution in action. It is just natural selection, for pre-existing characteristics.
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Reply #239 - Nov 29th, 2008 at 4:01pm
 
And that is how evolution works. genetic variation, acted on by natural selection. Those that are successful will be passed on, over geologic time (without out meddling) that is how new species evolve.

And you are an idiot freediver, did not get my point at all! What was a recessive gene is now the dominant, much more important than a sport like a redhead with no redheaded ancestors.

Mutation is not really needed to explain evolution. Genetic variability and natural selection are enough.
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