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Reply #15 - Jan 9th, 2007 at 4:26am
 
Does knowing about an incident happening before it actually happens count? In this case I believe the CIA did know that something was going to happen but did not act on it. So I think they are partly responsible.
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Reply #16 - Jan 9th, 2007 at 8:52am
 
Smiley wrote on Jan 8th, 2007 at 11:23pm:
But I'm no supporter of the subsequent war on Iraq
The second invasion of Iraq has turned out to be an obscene disaster
Maybe even criminal
The abductions, torture and murder by all sides certainly are


If we were victorious in Iraq does this mean you would have supported it?

Nobody likes to support, or be seen supporting, a loser.
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Reply #17 - Jan 9th, 2007 at 9:04am
 
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Does knowing about an incident happening before it actually happens count? In this case I believe the CIA did know that something was going to happen but did not act on it. So I think they are partly responsible.


Obviously the CIA knew that something was amiss but they didn't know what. Who would have guessed that they were going to hijack planes and use them as guided missiles. This time the terrorist beat the CIA, doesn't happen very often.

Even if the CIA rounded all these people up and called them terrorists the people would have rejected it because there was no evidence to the fact.

Look what they are doing to David Hicks! People don't want to believe that he is a terrorist. David Hicks is a mercenary. If David Hicks was not arrested and later blew up Sydney Opera House the CIA would once again get the blame for not arresting him.

The CIA and Intelligence organisations can only work with the tools that we give them. Everytime we give them a tool we lose freedoms. This is why the CIA couldn't put a stop to 9/11.

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http://www.smh.com.au/news/breaking-news/computer-simulates-trade-centre-attack/2007/06/20/1182019190229.html

A computer simulation of the 2001 World Trade Centre (WTC) attack supports original findings that the initial impact from the hijacked airplanes stripped away crucial fireproofing material and that the weakened towers collapsed under their own weight.

"One thing it does point out ... is the absolute essential nature of fireproofing steel structures," Hoffmann told The Associated Press.

"This is something that wasn't done originally in the World Trade Centre when it was built. It wasn't code at that time."

Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering and a lead investigator on the simulation, said Purdue researchers hope their work leads to better structural design and building codes to prevent similar collapses.
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Reply #19 - Feb 3rd, 2014 at 9:39am
 
Whether the rate of collapse is millisecond accurate or not surely any sentient autonomous thinking person would raise questions as to why these are the only concrete/steel buildings in the history of man that have collapsed into their own footprint without assistance - two of a similar construction and one not only different but not impacted by the original collision and only had a fire - I have been unable to find information on any other buildings collapsing in a similar way from fire alone. I'm no conspiracy theorist but the laws of physics can't be put on hold due to some awkward questions.
The sad situation is that if you raise any questions you must be a nutter or a terrorist. Unfortunately this is the position America takes with any subject that drifts from the original official press release.
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Reply #20 - Mar 4th, 2014 at 8:48pm
 
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Reply #21 - Mar 5th, 2014 at 3:29am
 
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The rubble was 12 storeys high.  
The collapse was only from the point of impact.


That makes the distance fallen at 9.8m/s/s  a lot less than the total height.  The cpnspiraphiles are all loopy..

What does: "The collapse was only from the point of impact." mean exactly?  Roll Eyes
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Reply #22 - Mar 5th, 2014 at 3:34am
 
Circumspicio wrote on Feb 3rd, 2014 at 9:39am:
Whether the rate of collapse is millisecond accurate or not surely any sentient autonomous thinking person would raise questions as to why these are the only concrete/steel buildings in the history of man that have collapsed into their own footprint without assistance - two of a similar construction and one not only different but not impacted by the original collision and only had a fire - I have been unable to find information on any other buildings collapsing in a similar way
from fire alone.
I'm no conspiracy theorist but the laws of physics can't be put on hold due to some awkward questions.
The sad situation is that if you raise any questions you must be a nutter or a terrorist. Unfortunately this is the position America takes with any subject that drifts from the original official press release.

That was no ordinary 'fire' brutha!!  Shocked Shocked In normal 'fire' you make swords and stuff expecting them to eventually cool down!
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Reply #23 - Aug 27th, 2014 at 6:39pm
 
So 9/11 is "debunked" based on the science of how the buildings collapsed?

It isn't even about *HOW* the building collapsed. The conspiracy can still exist and can still be true, it doesn't depend on how the building collapsed.

If you want to go all "scientific proof" then explain why there was very little *EVIDENCE* left behind in regard to the plane that crashed in Shanksville? How did a driver's licence, a passport and a bandana survive the crash intact but the plane exploded upon impact?
If you look at other documented plane crashes there is always a sh*t tonne of debris and human remains.

Then there is the fact that all American news media channels had their cameras ready to go before the plane even enters the frame and hits the WTC, and they sound oh-so-surprised when it happens. Days of Our Lives actors give a better performance.

Then there is also this: the Bin Laden family were allowed to leave the country that morning when every other plane was grounded. The Bin Ladens had close ties with Bush. An FBI agent spoke up and said in any other circumstance the Bin Ladens would be grounded as well, and questioned.

The Bush administration was quick to accuse Bin Laden, almost as if he had prior knowledge despite denying this.

But no, it's all about the scientific evidence. Because that is the absolution, right? Scientific evidence alone cannot prove whether the terrorist attacks were orchestrated or not. Keep that in mind.

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Reply #24 - Aug 27th, 2014 at 7:18pm
 
Freedumb wrote on Aug 27th, 2014 at 6:39pm:
So 9/11 is "debunked" based on the science of how the buildings collapsed?

It isn't even about *HOW* the building collapsed. The conspiracy can still exist and can still be true, it doesn't depend on how the building collapsed.

If you want to go all "scientific proof" then explain why there was very little *EVIDENCE* left behind in regard to the plane that crashed in Shanksville? How did a driver's licence, a passport and a bandana survive the crash intact but the plane exploded upon impact?
If you look at other documented plane crashes there is always a sh*t tonne of debris and human remains.

Then there is the fact that all American news media channels had their cameras ready to go before the plane even enters the frame and hits the WTC, and they sound oh-so-surprised when it happens. Days of Our Lives actors give a better performance.

Then there is also this: the Bin Laden family were allowed to leave the country that morning when every other plane was grounded. The Bin Ladens had close ties with Bush. An FBI agent spoke up and said in any other circumstance the Bin Ladens would be grounded as well, and questioned.

The Bush administration was quick to accuse Bin Laden, almost as if he had prior knowledge despite denying this.

But no, it's all about the scientific evidence. Because that is the absolution, right? Scientific evidence alone cannot prove whether the terrorist attacks were orchestrated or not. Keep that in mind.



Actually scientific evidence can prove it.

How the information gained from that scientific evidence
is disseminated
is the issue, I think is more to the point...

edit cause I left out some words...

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Reply #25 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 7:31pm
 
Phemanderac wrote on Aug 27th, 2014 at 7:18pm:
Freedumb wrote on Aug 27th, 2014 at 6:39pm:
So 9/11 is "debunked" based on the science of how the buildings collapsed?

It isn't even about *HOW* the building collapsed. The conspiracy can still exist and can still be true, it doesn't depend on how the building collapsed.

If you want to go all "scientific proof" then explain why there was very little *EVIDENCE* left behind in regard to the plane that crashed in Shanksville? How did a driver's licence, a passport and a bandana survive the crash intact but the plane exploded upon impact?
If you look at other documented plane crashes there is always a sh*t tonne of debris and human remains.

Then there is the fact that all American news media channels had their cameras ready to go before the plane even enters the frame and hits the WTC, and they sound oh-so-surprised when it happens. Days of Our Lives actors give a better performance.

Then there is also this: the Bin Laden family were allowed to leave the country that morning when every other plane was grounded. The Bin Ladens had close ties with Bush. An FBI agent spoke up and said in any other circumstance the Bin Ladens would be grounded as well, and questioned.

The Bush administration was quick to accuse Bin Laden, almost as if he had prior knowledge despite denying this.

But no, it's all about the scientific evidence. Because that is the absolution, right? Scientific evidence alone cannot prove whether the terrorist attacks were orchestrated or not. Keep that in mind.



Actually scientific evidence can prove it.

How the information gained from that scientific evidence
is disseminated
is the issue, I think is more to the point...

edit cause I left out some words...



That is absolutely correct.
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