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Re: Why we should allow whaling
Reply #180 - Jan 15th, 2008 at 9:00pm
 
Don't knock it mate.  Those greenies are making lawyers rich.  I have to get a bucket of that money.

Meantime Kevvy's Navy will be at anchor hundreds of miles away from the action watching the cricket on TV and trying to get the dishwasher to work.
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Anti-whaling activists reject 'demands'
Reply #181 - Jan 16th, 2008 at 3:01pm
 
http://news.smh.com.au/antiwhaling-activists-reject-demands/20080116-1m6d.html

Activists in the Southern Ocean are refusing to abide by a list of demands issued for the return of two crew members detained aboard a Japanese whaling ship.

Australian Benjamin Potts, 28, and Briton Giles Lane, 35, crew members of the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society vessel Steve Irwin, boarded the Japanese harpoon vessel Yushin Maru No. 2 about 4pm (AEDT) on Tuesday to deliver a written plea to stop killing whales.

Sea Shepherd founder Paul Watson said he had received an email from Japan's Institute of Cetacean Research (ICR) that instructed his vessel to stop its protest activities as a condition of returning his crew.

"They are saying that we have to agree to not take any action against their whaling activities, not to video or photo their whaling activities and want us to send a boat - a small zodiac - 10 miles over the horizon to pick up my crew, which I am not going to do," Watson told AAP.

"It endangers the life of the crew, to put them out in these waters in a small boat, 10 miles out of view. So I am not going to meet these demands.

"When you hold hostages and make demands, that is the definition of a terrorist organisation, and that is the way they are acting."

ICR spokesman Glenn Inwood earlier said protest ship the Steve Irwin was deliberately avoiding Japanese attempts to hand over two detained crew members.

NZ concerned over detained anti-whalers

http://news.smh.com.au/nz-concerned-over-detained-antiwhalers/20080116-1ma4.html

New Zealand's government says it is concerned about the detention of anti-whaling protesters but has no plans to send defence ships to the Southern Ocean.



from crikey -  it looks like the table in my article needs some additions for missing countries. Maybe the missing countries are not IWC members.

Every year in the peaceful island cluster of the Faeroe Islands, a protectorate of Denmark, an event called the grindadráp takes place. The local fishermen herd a pod of pilot whales into harbour. Once there, they are driven into knee-deep water where men from the small Faeroese population kill them by cutting their spinal cords by hand. In 2006, they killed in excess of 800 whales.

Yet Greenpeace has never seriously campaigned against the whaling practices of the Faeroese. And it has never campaigned heavily against whaling nations Norway, Iceland or Russia. Greenpeace doesn’t send the Esperanza in pursuit of European vessels when other whale activists do. Instead, it concentrates its efforts away from Europe. Why?

It’s not because these European nations have a significantly smaller catch than the Japanese. Alongside the Faeroese, the Norwegians take roughly 600 whales per year, making a total of close to 1,400 whales compare to Japan’s average of roughly 750 since 2000.

No, the bias in Greenpeace’s Asia-centric whaling campaign is about headlines and fundraising rather than the whales themselves.

Anti-whaling is a cause celebre in Australia – particularly against the Japanese. Chasing a whaling ship out of neighbouring waters makes for good copy in a slow news period and contributes significantly to Greenpeace’s membership coffers. Yet if the same actions took place in Norway and Denmark there would be a considerable backlash that would erode Greenpeace’s supporter base.

As Sea Shepherd Captain and Greenpeace co-founder Paul Watson has stated, "when it comes to whaling, some nations are more tolerated than others by Greenpeace." For example, in 2005, during the northern hemisphere whaling season, the Esperanza was in Norway. According to Sea Shepherd Paul Watson, the ship was devoting its time to collecting water samples. But at the same time, Greenpeace was running an anti-whaling campaign in South Korea, where an International Whaling Commission was about to be held.

Campaigns by Greenpeace against companies like Apple and Shell have singled them out not because they were the worst offenders, but because they are the easiest targets for grabbing headlines in an increasingly crowded and sensitive environmental donations market. This was highlighted in 2006 when a draft press release from the Greenpeace USA office was accidentally sent to the media featuring the text "FILL IN ALARMIST AND ARMAGEDDONIST FACTOID HERE."

This raises an ethical concern. In their campaigns and lobbying activity, Greenpeace constantly call on governments and the public to take an objective and scientific view in debates on issues like climate change, forestry in developing countries and nuclear power and set out priorities accordingly. The question is, does Greenpeace do the same, or are they simply staging a fundraiser?
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High-seas whaling standoff draws in Tokyo, Canberr
Reply #182 - Jan 16th, 2008 at 10:24pm
 
High-seas whaling standoff draws in Tokyo, Canberra

http://news.smh.com.au/highseas-whaling-standoff-draws-in-tokyo-canberra/20080116-1meg.html

A high-seas standoff between Japanese whalers and militant anti-whaling activists in the icy waters of the Antarctic drew the governments of Australia and Japan into the fray Wednesday.

At the centre of the row are two Sea Shepherd Conservation Society activists who were detained on one of the Japanese ships after boarding it Tuesday to demand an end to the annual slaughter of the giants of the seas.

Australian Foreign Minister Stephen Smith said Japan had agreed to release the men after being contacted by Australian officials.

Noting that the Steve Irwin is registered in the Netherlands, Smith said Australia had also contacted the Dutch authorities "about urging the vessel to act within its obligations," and the Dutch had agreed.

Sea Shepherd said the two captured activists were assaulted and tied to the radar mast of the harpoon ship Yushin Maru No 2 after they clambered over the rails and onto the Japanese vessel from an inflatable boat.

A spokesman for Japan's Institute of Cetacean Research denied the men had been mistreated, saying they had been given hot meals, a bath and had a good night's sleep.

"They were restrained for a short period (on deck) before being taken to an office," Glenn Inwood said. "It was the only way, you couldn't have them running around the deck not knowing what they're going to do."



Deadlock over anti-whaling activists

http://news.smh.com.au/deadlock-over-antiwhaling-activists/20080116-1m6d.html

Japanese whalers are refusing to unconditionally release two anti-whaling activists held at sea despite a diplomatic deal with Australia.

The conservation group Sea Shepherd says it won't meet the whalers' demands and has accused them of treating the activists harshly during their dramatic capture in the Southern Ocean.
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Re: Why we should allow whaling
Reply #183 - Jan 17th, 2008 at 7:36am
 
The federal Liebor Government have brought this upon themselves.  Little Bully Kevvy started the threatening behaviour with warnings of gun toting vessels trailing the Japs.  Greenpeace and others said Kevvy's Navy should be stopping the whalers and they have taken courage from Kevvy's empty rhetoric.

Now Kevvy's actions are haunting him.

Why should Japan believe or trust Kevvy?  No one in Australia does.  He speaks with forked tongue.
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Rudd calls for calm in whaling standoff
Reply #184 - Jan 17th, 2008 at 2:48pm
 
Rudd calls for calm in whaling standoff

http://news.smh.com.au/rudd-calls-for-calm-in-whaling-standoff/20080117-1mfc.html

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has called on the Japanese government and environmental activists to exercise restraint to allow the safe return of two men being detained on a Japanese whaling vessel.

Speaking in Brisbane, Mr Rudd said Foreign Minister Stephen Smith was in constant talks with Japanese Prime Minister Yasuo Fukuda to procure their immediate safe return.

Mr Rudd said the Australian government still remained committed to ending commercial whaling.

"The key challenge is how do we bring about the end of commercial whaling, period, into the future, that's what I'm concerned about," he said.

"And (that is) the reason I have foreshadowed, for some time now, the absolute importance of accumulating an evidence base which underpins a possible legal action (that) has that as its single objective.

"This is not scientific whaling - this is commercial whaling."

The federal opposition says using the Customs ship Oceanic Viking to effect the transfer of two anti-whaling activists held by Japanese whalers is the best way to resolve the stand-off.



Australia may intervene in Japanese whaling row: minister

http://news.smh.com.au/australia-may-intervene-in-japanese-whaling-row-minister/20080117-1ml9.html

Australia could send a customs ship to end a high-seas standoff in Antarctic waters by picking up two anti-whaling activists held on board a Japanese whaler, Foreign Minister Stephen Smith said Thursday.

http://news.smh.com.au/customs-ship-to-pick-up-activists-smith/20080117-1mfc.html



I would have given them nothing to eat but whale:

Anti-whaling pair return to Sea Shepherd

http://news.smh.com.au/antiwhaling-pair-return-to-sea-shepherd/20080118-1mnk.html

Two anti-whaling activists who were held aboard a Japanese whaling ship have been returned to the Sea Shepherd vessel, the Steve Irwin.

They were handed over to the Australian customs vessel Oceanic Viking early Friday morning by the Japanese.

Mr Potts said he feared for his life while he was being held by the Japanese.

"A number of them grabbed us and they attempted to throw me overboard. They were unsuccessful because I held onto a guard rail. One bloke picked up my shoulders and the gunner picked up my legs."

Mr Potts said both he and Mr Lane were denied access to most information about their plight.

The pair had warned they would start a hunger strike if they were not told what was going to happen to them, he said.

During the time were held by the Japanese it is understood they were fed rice and given green tea and water to drink.



Activists vow to carry on disrupting Japanese whaling

http://news.smh.com.au/activists-vow-to-carry-on-disrupting-japanese-whaling/20080118-1moi.html

A militant anti-whaling group said Friday it would immediately resume harassing Japanese whalers in Antarctic waters after detained activists freed by Tokyo are returned to their ship.

The confrontation with Sea Shepherd had forced the Japanese fleet to suspend whaling for several days, but a spokesman for Japan's Institute of Cetacean Research said the whalers would resume the hunt as soon as possible.
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Re: Why we should allow whaling
Reply #185 - Jan 18th, 2008 at 10:48pm
 
Little Kevvy has made Australia an embarrassment - this story is tearing through Asia who are delighted to see a berk like Kevvy fall over his own shoelaces.

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Australia's Rudd harpooned by Japanese whalers

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Incoming national leaders are defined by how well they deal with their first crisis. John Howard, Kevin Rudd's predecessor as Australian prime minister, won plaudits in 1996 for staring down opponents of gun control and ordering the world's biggest gun buy-back after the Port Arthur massacre claimed 35 lives.

In 1997, new Prime Minister Tony Blair deeply impressed the British public by the deft way he coaxed Queen Elizabeth into giving a state funeral to Lady Diana Spencer, whom he famously called 'The People's Princess'.

Howard and Blair both went on to stay in office for more than 10 years.

Rudd is a week away from his first appearance in the Canberra Parliament as prime minister and he risks falling at his very first hurdle.

The 50-year-old former diplomat who has never held ministerial office has been branded a weak leader by not speaking up about Japanese whaling in the Southern Ocean.

In fact, the normally irrepressible Rudd has failed to speak at all. Since Japanese whalers took two activists into custody, other ministers have had to do the talking.

Australian Benjamin Potts and Giles Lane from Britain are crewmembers of the Steve Irwin, owned by the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society, which sailed to the Southern Ocean in December to try and disrupt the harpooning.

They are being held incommunicado aboard the Yushin Maru 2, which along with four other vessels left Japan in November with the intention of returning with 935 minke whales and 50 fin whales.

The opposition was quick to pounce.

Its environment spokesman Greg Hunt said Rudd was too busy watching cricket and hobnobbing with actors Nicole Kidman and Hugh Jackman to address the crisis.

'There's no reason why Mr. Rudd shouldn't finally pick up the phone and call the Japanese prime minister and do what heads of government do, which is speak to each other,' Hunt said.

The risk for Rudd is appearing a hypocrite. Before the November general election that swept Howard from office, Labor had talked tough.

Labor castigated the conservatives for not sending warships to patrol the whale sanctuary it had declared in the Southern Ocean.

The government's environment spokesman Peter Garrett, who is now the minister, had claimed Howard was too fearful of risking relations with Japan.

Garrett, the former lead singer with Midnight Oil, was left to defend Hunt's charge that the dispatch of the nowhere-to-be-seen Oceanic Viking, armed and with 30 customs officers on board, was just 'domestic posturing' and that the unspoken hope was that it would fail to find the Japanese whalers.

'Our intention is to continue to have an overall holistic and fair-dinkum approach to opposing Japanese so-called scientific whaling,' Garrett waffled.

The hapless former rocker had no answer as to why the departure of the Oceanic Viking was delayed by over a week and why it had failed to find the Japanese when protesters aboard the Steve Irwin had been able to.

The Greens, Rudd's allies in his landslide election win, alleged the new prime minister was all huff and puff.

'They wanted to come out heavy, to be seen to be doing something, and they have not followed through,' Greens member of parliament Rachel Siewert said.

Greenpeace had called on the government to send up a plane to pinpoint the location of the fleet, so its ship, the Esperanza, could begin harassing the Japanese.

The Sea Shepherd Conservation Society, which sent the Steve Irwin to find the Japanese fleet, was not only successful but also managed to put it to flight.

The hostage drama has provided further ammunition for an opposition that senses Rudd, like the Japanese whalers, is on the run. And this is even before his first formal day in office.

What a wanker is Kevvy



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Environmentalists fall out over anti-whaling tacti
Reply #186 - Jan 20th, 2008 at 9:39pm
 
LOL, the Australian government's 'anti whaling' ship has helped the Japanese to escape the hippies.

Environmentalists fall out over anti-whaling tactics

http://news.smh.com.au/environmentalists-fall-out-over-antiwhaling-tactics/20080120-1mzn.html

A militant anti-whaling group trying to stop Japanese hunters in the icy Southern Ocean on Sunday accused rival Greenpeace of "ocean posing" after it refused to hand over the coordinates of the fleet.

Sea Shepherd Conservation Society said it was forced to move away from the area by Australian officials aboard a customs vessel late last week when it made a rendezvous to pick up two of its activists rescued from a Japanese whaling ship.

As a result it lost track of the fleet, its chief Paul Watson told AFP from the society's ship the Steve Irwin.

"Greenpeace needs to get their footage of a whale being shot," Watson told AFP. "They do it every year. If you really look at it Greenpeace invests more money in advertising than they do in the actual campaign."

Greenpeace does not cooperate with Sea Shepherd on the grounds it promotes violent protest, she said. Sea Shepherd denies it promotes violence, although its tactics in the past have included ramming a vessel and Watson claims to have sunk whaling boats in the past.

Holden said Greenpeace still had the mother ship within its sights. However, she said the real battle was in Tokyo, where she said there were real signs of a shift in attitude, with even conservatives starting to question the value of the annual whale hunt.



Activists use 'stink bombs' to harass Japanese whalers

http://news.smh.com.au/activists-use-stink-bombs-to-harass-japanese-whalers/20080119-1mwt.html

A militant anti-whaling group on Saturday said it attacked a Japanese whaling vessel with "stink bombs", frustrating the hunt, only an hour after two of its activists were freed from the harpoon boat.

"One hour after our people were released we then went after the Yushin Maru No. 2 and hit them with our stink bombs," Paul Watson, told AFP via telephone.

"What that will do is it makes it impossible to work on the deck for two days."

The Japanese company which owns the whaling vessels, Kyodo Senpaku Kaisha Ltd, condemned the butyric acid attacks on its ships which it likened to the work of terrorists.

"We safely released to an Australian patrol boat the intruders without any harm, even though Sea Shepherd has long threatened our safety," the company's president Kazuo Yamamoto said in a statement.

"The night attack is nothing more than an inhumane act for which they deserve to be called terrorists as they show no sign of honour as human beings," he said.

"We are not down here hanging banners and taking pictures, we are down here to save whales," he said.

"We are going to keep hitting these guys... as long as we don't hurt anybody.

Watson said the Steve Irwin, which had to follow the Australian customs boat some 50 miles away from the Japanese ship to collect its detained crew, was now searching for the Japanese fleet.

Meanwhile, Japanese diplomats and government officials will hold an emergency meeting soon to discuss measures to prevent future attacks against whaling vessels, the online edition of the Yomiuri Shimbun newspaper reported.
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Reply #187 - Jan 20th, 2008 at 11:27pm
 
Another result in the score card of common sense.

After spending multi-millions of dollars sending a floating observatory I would hope that they would get a chance to exercise their law skills- but it turns out that they released the pirates back onto their boat to continue their high seas mayhem.

And the state Labor govt supports these idiots. Donation jockeys who flout the law should be outlawed and prosecuted- or perhaps I should gather together a gang of like minded idiots to forcibly protest what particularly annoys us about a lawful activity?

They are sickening in their acts, sickening in their flouting of the laws and worst of all, they are sickening in their propaganda display and the accompanying selling to the Australian stupid sector, which seems to grow bigger every year.

Harp seals and whales= emotional fodder for the uneducated masses.
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Australia backs eco-terrorism: whalers
Reply #188 - Jan 21st, 2008 at 7:27am
 
Perhaps it will hit home when they start throwing acid through the window of the local butcher or ramming cattle trucks off the road. For a lot of these people, 'meat is murder' is more than just a slogan. It's an ideology they are prepared to take all the way.



Australia backs eco-terrorism: whalers

http://news.smh.com.au/australia-backs-ecoterrorism-whalers/20080121-1n6o.html

Japanese whalers have accused the Australian government of supporting eco-terrorism by returning two Sea Shepherd activists to the protest group last week.

The Sea Shepherd society had a history of highly aggressive action - including fouling whaling boats' propellers with rope and hurling stink bombs onboard - that could only be viewed as eco-terrorism, he said.
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Reply #189 - Jan 21st, 2008 at 3:53pm
 
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Little Bully Kevvy started the threatening behaviour with warnings of gun toting vessels trailing the Japs.


Do Customs vessels 'tote guns?'  I mean something more than mere rifles/hand guns etc.  I mean deck mounted bungers.
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Reply #190 - Jan 21st, 2008 at 4:01pm
 
I expect they would. The footage I've seen of government vessels intercepting boats in our northern waters showed some respectable looking deck mounted weapons. You wouldn't want to do that work without them.

Not sure if it would be enough to cripple the whaling or hippy terrorist boats, but it would send them below deck anyway.

Apparently Aboriginies in Australia catch about 1600 dugongs every year. They really are an endangered species.
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Reply #191 - Jan 21st, 2008 at 8:20pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jan 21st, 2008 at 3:53pm:
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Do Customs vessels 'tote guns?'  I mean something more than mere rifles/hand guns etc.  I mean deck mounted bungers.


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Armed vessel to monitor whalers


December 18, 2007 09:52am


A CUSTOMS vessel armed with machine guns may be deployed to the Southern Ocean as part of beefed-up Federal Government monitoring of the Japanese whale hunt.

Customs said the Oceanic Viking is not a cruise ship, as reported today, but a "full-time contracted vessel".

"The 105-metre Oceanic Viking is fitted with two deck mounted 0.50 calibre machine guns, has a fully-equipped medical centre staffed by an Australian Antarctic Division doctor, and carries a full civilian crew and steaming party," the customs website said.

Oceanic Viking is also used to patrol Australia's northern waters.

Greenpeace has welcomed the reported plan to use the ship to monitor the hunt.

"We're certainly supporting the Australian Government's action that they're taking in sending a ship down," Greenpeace's Karli Thomas told Channel 9 today.

"The more scrutiny that we can have on the Japanese whaling operation the better."

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Greenpeace tries to hamper Nisshin Maru
Reply #192 - Jan 22nd, 2008 at 1:51pm
 
http://news.smh.com.au/greenpeace-tries-to-hamper-nisshin-maru/20080122-1ndr.html

Greenpeace activists on an inflatable boat are attempting to block the Japanese whaling factory ship from refuelling in Antarctic waters, the environment group says.

The protesters have been navigating their inflatable between the Nisshin Maru and fuel ship the Oriental Bluebird for about an hour, Dave Walsh, spokesman on board the Greenpeace ship Esperanza, said about midday (AEDT).

Greenpeace also says the Panamanian-registered Oriental Bluebird does not have a Japanese government permit to be a part of the whaling fleet.
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Reply #193 - Jan 22nd, 2008 at 5:19pm
 
Looks like Greenpeace is hankering for a bit of the donation pie
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Activists clash with Japanese whalers
Reply #194 - Jan 22nd, 2008 at 7:56pm
 
http://news.smh.com.au/activists-clash-with-japanese-whalers/20080122-1ndr.html

Environmentalists have again clashed with Japanese whalers in Antarctic waters, with Greenpeace activists failing to prevent the refuelling of the fleet's factory ship.

The protesters piloted an inflatable boat between the Nisshin Maru and supply ship the Oriental Bluebird during the operation, a spokesman on board the Greenpeace ship Esperanza said.

"They've gone ahead with refuelling now - it was too dangerous for us to continue blocking them because they were pushing their two ships together, which was quite a dangerous manoeuvre with people sitting between on a boat," Greenpeace spokesman Dave Walsh told the ABC.

Photos released by Greenpeace showed crew of the two whaling ships directing water hoses at the tiny inflatable as it navigated the narrow gap between them.

Mr Walsh said the refuelling was occurring south of the 60-degree line in the Southern Ocean in breach of the Antarctic Treaty, which contains a 1998 protocol to protect the environment.

The Japanese fleet is thought to have suspended whaling until the protest ships, which are unable to refuel, are forced to return to port.
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