No worries Ausie Nationalist, I was kidding too.

I believe the Qu'ran is very much open to interpretation, and it has been this way for many years. How much actual research have you put into the theory that Muslims are inherently violent? If you are going on your gut feeling, then this is a very worrying and dangerous sign of our times. Did you think that Muslims were inherently violent ten years ago?

The difference between now and then is the rise of extremism and it's perpetuation in the media to help justify our military actions. Please do not think that we are not subject to propaganda, we are, it's a fact. Just question then news stories on television and do your own research into that story and you might be suprised. A good area to start with is Isreal and Palestine. The media portrays the Palestinians as terrorists and Isrealis as a democratic country defending itself. This is a very serious breach of the truth in order to serve our country's means. I'm not going to get into that argument here but very closely related to the issue at hand.

One of the main reasons that Islam is so split at this time, is the rise of the Wahhabis within Islam since the 1800s.

Do you know the difference between the Sunni and the Shi'a Muslims? It is important to understand that there are differences within Islam that are also fought to the death. I don't believe this suggests that Muslims are inherently violent, but that there are major problems within Islam. Ironically since the invasion of Iraq, these two factions are uniting to fight a common cause, the US and British Army.

I think you'll find the argument 'Are American's inherently violent?' a far more interesting one, and the way American culture is dominating other Western countries, it might explain a lot.

"Ironically since the invasion of Iraq, these two factions are uniting to fight a common cause, the US and British Army."

i wouldn't say that, rather that the overthrow of Saddam Hussein created a power vacuum in Iraq so u have these two sides fighting for power, the Shi'tes are getting support from Iran and the Sunni's are getting support from Al-Qaeda.

Leon, let me put it this way.
The media portraying them as ''evil''?
If anything the media plays down the actions of muslims. imagine if the whole truth was given to the public,the stuff we dont hear about.......
About my research, i am an avid fan of history and whats more, they live all around me and ive even worked with them. they believe they are superior to us.
Have you ever heard of shiek el hilaly? listen to what he has said in the past.
On the street for example, i was on the path going to the shops as a muslim woman was walking in the opposite direction, she spat right at my feet- in their culture,this is a sign of utter contempt.
I wont tell of my retaliatory action (i did not hit IT if you are wondering)
Whilst i was working with some, i was always given the worst jobs, at lunch i was NOT PERMITTED to sit with them (not that i wanted to).
They burn our flag on a regular basis- i see them do it in their backyards.
I COULD GO ON.

Anyhow hows merry old england going?
How is LONDONSTAN?
Muslim pop still at 44% or is it higher now?
Are they still gonna build that mosque which holds 200,000 muslims?

i wouldn't use the actions of some muslims (like the woman walking down the street) to show islam is an intolerant or violent religion, since not all muslims are religious and some of them may not be following their faith properly.
 

i thought Hilaly got removed from his position as mufti and he has been prevented from giving sermons. i remembered hearing about it a few weeks back.

When the senior clerics voted if he should be expelled or if he should remain, they unanimously voted yes he shall remain as mufti.
He is still at large and may spew shite at any time.

I take the view of Bill Hicks where it come to flag burning. It's part of our right to free speech.

When it comes to speech however you have to look at the construct of an argument and the way to diffuse tension. School playground arguing where one person tries to shout down another person's viewpoint will never further humanity.

My earlier comment: Ironically since the invasion of Iraq, these two factions are uniting to fight a common cause:
guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1189295,00.html

For a view on how the public mood towards Muslims has been pushed into segregation, what a documentary by one of your own countrymen, John Pilger: Breaking the Silence: The Truth and Lies In the War on Terror

It's very sad to any racism, but reciprocated racism is hugely dangerous