ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Mar 14
th, 2007 at 7:45pm:
[quote]There are two ways of looking at this.
You're putting so much emphasis on the 'daevilwhiteaussieswhobeatuptrhepoorhelplesslebanesemen,' can you at the very least acknoledge the reasons I pointed out that this protest was justified?
Everyone has the right to protest. It's part of our democratic freedom. Nobody is suggesting that the protesting was wrong, but breaking the law is wrong. When a protest turns violent it's usually for one of two reasons: Firstly the authorities attack the protesters (the protest in Zimbabwe last week being the most recent example) or the feelings about that issue are so strong that people lose control of their normal values and start lashing out. And from the 'Nationalists' (and I do understand the meaning of the word) here on this blog, emotions are running very high.
I want to go back to the wider issue of propaganda. Propaganda has played a major in every war since Hitler invaded Poland. He even had German feature films made for his by the best film makers of their time - famously: Leni Riefenstahl. To help rally the population behind a political action, waring governments have become outwardly racist towards each other to incite hatred and therefore justification for attacking the 'enemy'.
During the cold war it was the Communists and in modern times it has fallen to the feet of the Muslims to be our enemy. The clever thing with propaganda, when both sides use it, you can use the other parties material for your own gains. DT has been doing this very successfully with the picture at the bottom of his posts, which goes to show that the propaganda against Muslims is working. Here in England we are only starting to get over the racism towards Germans, more than fifty years after WW2 . That's how it works. You have make the 'enemy' a single evil generic body - Germans, Communists, Muslims, in order to justify your military actions. Which is why the riots in Cronulla seem so acceptable to so many, it's just a mini version of what we are told is happening in Iraq. And if the might of the West is doing this in Iraq, it's seemingly justifiable to do so at home too.
Most people you meet stand up for what they believe in, and that's what is happening here. But here's the funny thing, we all tend to believe in the same thing: and end to violence and living in a peaceful society. The few who don't tend to be politicians trying to make a name for themselves to gain more power; or huge multinational corporations looking to do the same. Us, the people on the street don't generally give a damn if we invade Iraq for their oil fields, in fact we'd prefer cleaner energy. And the majority of us don't realise that Saddam Hussein was armed by Britain and America, fuelling his dictatorship. Something that America has done for years: Franklin D Roosevelt was confronted with the multiple cruelties of his ally, the Nicaraguan dictator Anastasio Somoza, he replied: "He may be a sonofabitch, but he's our sonofabitch." http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,5673,1486339,00.html
You might argue that September 11th changed all that, but the situation started with America in the first place:
"6 months before the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, Jimmy Carter paid Afghan Warlords $500 million to help set up the Mujaheddin, a terrorist organisation. The American people were completely unaware that their government, along with the British secret service: MI6, had begun training and funding Islamic extremists including Osama Bin Laden. Out of this came the Taliban, Al'Qaeda and September the 11th"
John Pilger (Australian) from his documentary: Breaking the Silence: The Truth and Lies in the war on Terror.
http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=1
The reason we went to war in Iraq was because of the weapons of mass destruction threat and the fear that Hussein was connected with Al'Qaeda. Andrew Wilkie, former head of the Australian Intelligence Agency resigned in the run up to the war because he knew this was not true. He of course, proved to be correct.
We have to ask ourselves why are we in this situation in the first place, why is there so much anger against Muslims? We need to listen to the news in a far more objectional way and do our own research to find the real truth and then look to those root causes to fix these problems. We need to stop fighting with each other, but fight the cause of the problem in the first place. And I guarantee, the cause is not the second largest religion in the World, it is the power hungry, money hungry individuals who run the World. The Politicians; the multi billion dollar corporations making huge profits from the war and the heads of news corporations who choose not to stand up to government propaganda (or indeed those who help to make it, Mr Murdoch)
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