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Reply #60 - Nov 8^th, 2008 at 8:56pm

Been spending too much time round the Muslims guys?

Tring to deflect and dissemble?

Mantra said Howard disarmed us. Those of us who know mantra well know she is obsessed with Howard. He is the root of all evil according to mantra...

I merely pointed out she was as usual wrong and Howard's government actually increased spending on defence.

She also had a shot at me the other week for picking her up on another topic doing the same thing... oh dear... I'm not going to look for it mantra and denial is your colour anyway so why should I bother.

When are you going to admit you were wrong on this one oh truth and light... after all that's what you said you do. Admit when you are wrong.

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Reply #61 - Nov 8^th, 2008 at 9:45pm

I said Howard disarmed us - meaning honest people handed in their guns and the criminals didn't when the gun laws were brought in. We have no way of defending ourselves against the common thug anymore. They can shoot us - we can't shoot them.

Of course Howard had to increase defence spending and I haven't said otherwise and this was because his "warm" relationship with Bush created so many more enemies thanks to our unsavoury and illegal invasion of Iraq and the "war on terror".

Howard is past history now thank God - but as Skippy said he left behind a huge mess to be cleaned up and he can rot in purgatory as far as I'm concerned. I don't even like thinking of him.

I don't remember having a shot at you and believe I have been quite agreeable recently. I was joking about being rarely wrong obviously. I am often wrong and will be the first to admit it.

I still don't understand this "denial" you accuse me of but as far as truth and light goes - I am telling the truth as I see it and as do others - perhaps you are the one who refuses to recognise it.

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Reply #62 - Nov 8^th, 2008 at 10:15pm

blah blah blah mantra blah blah blah...

even when you are vainly trying to wriggle out of it you still gt it wrong. there was a buy back and only certain weapons were required to be handed in. Other weapons could and were bought by owners to replace them.

Did you hand in your weapon?
I didn't hand in mine... Like the vast majority of Australians... I never owned one. Cheesy

ps. you weren't allowed to shoot 'em b4 either mantra.

Yes Howard left us in such a huge mess Rudd just used $10 billion of it to help stave off a recession... and the $96 billion in debt we don't have was also just a mess no intrinsic value whatsoever.

Oh and if you check your past posts I'm sure you'll find it.

The point you are still not facing up to is that you were wrong and failed to admit it. This is a defense topic mantra... no amount of changing the topic will save you.

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Reply #63 - Nov 8^th, 2008 at 10:31pm

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God you're a bore boofy," stop pickin on the rodent" as Mantra said if she blamed the rodent for somthing, he deserved it.
You can thank the little t urd for the economic crisis we're in, along with his bum chum george w.
As far as national service is concerned, I hate it, I dont see the point sending people off to train to be soldiers if they don't want to, I remember Vietnam, and it was ugly.

Do you have a thinning pony tail??

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Reply #64 - Nov 9^th, 2008 at 6:39am

You can only go back 25 posts Grendel and there is nothing I can see that resembles a lie.

Don't give us that crap about Howard and his surplus and paying off Government debt, because he did it at the expense of all public services - including public hospitals and schools. He creamed the economy for his demographic bribing and to ensure public servants would always have access to their superannuation. Too bad about the rest of Australia losing out to Howard's "free market" deregulated institutions.

Yes it is a defence topic and the coalition pumped billions into aiding and abetting the slaughter of innocent ME civilians. Where has it got us - nowhere apart from having blood on our hands.

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The point you are still not facing up to is that you were wrong and failed to admit it. This is a defense topic mantra... no amount of changing the topic will save you.

I'm sure you've got some little snippet hidden up your sleeve that in your mind proves I'm wrong - so - what is it? Before I make sweeping statements - I ensure there is some sort of reference handy for the cynics .......so what are these lies you keep accusing me of?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48842 At my desk.	Re: Our inadequate Armed forces Reply #65 - Nov 9^th, 2008 at 9:37am Actually Grendel a large part of this thread is about the defense value of armed civilians, so Mantra's comments are hardly out of place.
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Reply #66 - Nov 9^th, 2008 at 9:47am

Soren wrote on Nov 8^th, 2008 at 10:31pm:

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God you're a bore boofy," stop pickin on the rodent" as Mantra said if she blamed the rodent for somthing, he deserved it.
You can thank the little t urd for the economic crisis we're in, along with his bum chum george w.
As far as national service is concerned, I hate it, I dont see the point sending people off to train to be soldiers if they don't want to, I remember Vietnam, and it was ugly.

Do you have a thinning poly tail??

Say again in english?

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easel Gold Member Offline Posts: 3120	Re: Our inadequate Armed forces Reply #67 - Nov 9^th, 2008 at 10:08am bugger Howard. Took cash out of health, to take guns out of our hands, then bought more guns for the government. I hope he dies slowly and painfully.
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mantra Gold Member Offline ozpolitic.com Posts: 10750 Gender:	Re: Our inadequate Armed forces Reply #68 - Nov 9^th, 2008 at 10:10am Quote: Say again in english? I think Soren thinks you are some 60 ish Vietnam vet. You know how a lot of them wear their hair in pony tails....
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skippy Ex Member	Re: Our inadequate Armed forces Reply #69 - Nov 9^th, 2008 at 1:31pm mantra wrote on Nov 9^th, 2008 at 10:10am: Quote: Say again in english? I think Soren thinks you are some 60 ish Vietnam vet. You know how a lot of them wear their hair in pony tails.... Oh I see, an attempt at humour, ho hum.
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Reply #70 - Nov 9^th, 2008 at 2:09pm

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mantra wrote on Nov 9^th, 2008 at 10:10am:

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Say again in english?

I think Soren thinks you are some 60 ish Vietnam vet. You know how a lot of them wear their hair in pony tails.... Grin

Oh I see, an attempt at humour, ho hum.

not humour, characterisation. I am just trying to form a picture to go with the sentiments and tone.
Harking back to Vietnam a propos Howard and Dubya is a bit fixated, so characteristic of the generation that is not letting go of its faded youth - thinning pony tails. Thinking of national service as an individual choice is also a give-away. National service would not be about self-actualisation, not in the 60s sense anyway.

As the saying goes - you may not be interested in war but war is interested in you.
(or the 60s version: visit the soviet union before the soviet union visits you)

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Our inadequate Armed forces Reply #71 - Nov 9^th, 2008 at 3:48pm good grief.. So FD do you agree with mantra that Howard disarmed the country? Do you honestly think that a handful of civilians with automatics can defend Australia? Do you deny Howard increased defense spending?
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Our inadequate Armed forces Reply #72 - Nov 9^th, 2008 at 3:51pm oh and mantra... thats' right I checked 50 posts... yours and mine... you will have to go back further to find it. 25 posts is only a few days mantra.. try harder.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48842 At my desk.	Re: Our inadequate Armed forces Reply #73 - Nov 9^th, 2008 at 3:55pm Grendel you don't really expect anyone to play these silly games with you, do you?
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Our inadequate Armed forces Reply #74 - Nov 9^th, 2008 at 3:58pm What silly games... I wish she'd bugger off with her Howard obsession and stop asking me to reply to her crap. Is that what you are referring to fd... me replying to mantra? As for your crap... the topic is about our ARMED FORCES... not some rabble with a handgun.
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