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Reply #60 - Aug 21^st, 2007 at 9:41pm

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http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Holocaust-trauma-affects-descendants/2007/08/20/1187462144233.html

Descendants of Holocaust survivors have higher than average rates of depression, anxiety and trust problems three generations on, Australian research shows.

A new study from the Queensland University of Technology has highlighted the profound influence the Holocaust had both on its direct survivors and their relatives more than 60 year after the World II atrocity.

The researcher said the traumatic after-effects of the Holocaust flowed to subsequent generations through the way survivors interacted with their children.

"Survivors were either over-protective or clingy because they were fearful that something would happen to their children or they were dismissive and pushed their children away in an attempt to prevent any future hurt," Ms Beck said.

"These parenting patterns are highly likely to be repeated, so the cycle of trauma transmission continues."

The study showed that the most affected survivors - those who spent time in concentration camps or were the sole survivor in their family - had children who were the most affected.

The research has implications for many war-torn countries around the world such as Iraq where large groups of civilians were being traumatised, Ms Beck said.

Now thats just a load of steaming crap. My grandfather went through hell at the hands of the Bolsheviks yet my father and i are just fine.
And every other human on earth does not cop the punishments of their ancestors unless the situation still exists.
Its all bull, They only go on about it so we can keep feeling sorry for them and so the world can keep supporting Israel. Once this stops, Israel will crumble as they will go broke.

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Re: HITLER. WHY DID HE HATE THE JEWS.?
Reply #61 - Aug 21^st, 2007 at 10:48pm

Some people seem to WANT to cling to their past bad experiences.
To endlessly relive them and carry them with them wherever they go.

I have bad past experiences. Anyone else ?
As corny as it sounds, eventually I forgave them and myself.
Then I could move forward.

Mind you, if there was a big financial incentive to "pleading damage" .... maybe I'ld have holden onto the bad times for a bit longer .

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Chinese WWII slaves miss out on compo
Reply #62 - Aug 30^th, 2007 at 12:07pm

http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Chinese-WWII-slaves-miss-out-on-compo/2007/08/30/1188067198546.html

A Japanese court rejected a lawsuit filed by dozens of Chinese seeking compensation for being forced into slave labour during World War II, a court official and a lawyer for the group says.

Morita said the judgment appeared to take its cue from a Supreme Court decision in April that ruled individual Chinese citizens lost their right to seek redress from Japan following the 1972 signing of a Japan-China Joint Communique restoring bilateral ties.

Under the communique, Beijing abandoned its right to claim war reparations from Japan. Critics, however, argue the document only affects China's government, not individuals.

Japan's military shipped hundreds of thousands of men from China and other Asian countries to Japan to work in coal mines and factories during World War II to make up for domestic labour shortages. It also forced Asian women into sexual slavery for Japanese troops.

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Germany bans two extremist groups
Reply #66 - May 8^th, 2008 at 1:23pm

http://news.smh.com.au/germany-bans-two-extremist-groups/20080507-2bwt.html

German Interior Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble has banned two far-right organisations he described as "reservoirs of organised Holocaust deniers."

Schaeuble, Germany's top security official, said in a statement that the organisations' activities were in violation of the nation's constitution. Denying the Holocaust is a crime in Germany.

"The organisations are reservoirs of organised Holocaust deniers," Schaeuble said in a statement.

"Their activities include disseminating anti-Semitic propaganda and praising the tyranny of the Nazis" over the internet, as well as in printed leaflets, Schaeuble said.

The two groups were identified as Collegium Humanum and Bauernhilfe eV, with bases in the western German states of North Rhein-Westphalia, Lower Saxony and Hesse.

Authorities confiscated material through searches of 30 premises in the various states early Wednesday, the statement said.

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Reply #67 - May 8^th, 2008 at 5:47pm

Back to the original questions of why Hitler hates the Jews so much.....

It was said that Hitler was inspired or heavily influenced by a manuscript called The Protocols of the the Elders of Zion. He refered to it several times in his book Mein Kampf and has endorsed it a number of times in his many speeches. The Protocols were required reading by all in the Nazi Party and the Hitler Youths and was/is often time used as justification for the Holacaust.

The Protocols was a literary hoax originally written (supposedly by the Mensheviks) to incite hatred against the Bolsheviks during the Russian revolution. It pretended to be minutes to a secret meeting of Jewish/Zionist elders. It noted plans for world domination via control of the banking and media institutions. They were supposedly a secret society akin to the Illuminati and the Freemasons.

Modern Nazis still quote from The Protocol and profess its authenticity despite being proven to be a hoax.

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Reply #68 - May 8^th, 2008 at 7:35pm

Many others seem to carry on the same theme, even if not specifically endorsing 'the protocols'. Like fretting about the number of Jews in Hollywood or something silly like that. Luckily for the Jews the Muslims have drawn those people's attention. It's much easier to construct a conspiracy around a religion if it proselytises.

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Reply #70 - May 10^th, 2008 at 10:58am

Fear and hatred of Jews has been entrenched in European history since not long after the dawn of the Christian era. Hitler didn't invent it. Every nation in Europe has had its period of virulent xenophobia aimed at people of Jewish descent. Even the great religious reformer and the instigator of the Protestant Reformation, Martin Luther, despised Jews and railed against them.

The holocaust was the last, the most deadly and many times over, the greatest evil ever committed against the Jews (or a people) and it had its roots in the unfounded belief held by many in Germany, including Hitler, that Germany lost the first world war because of an enemy within… The Jew. Even Kaiser Wilhelm II after he abdicated and exiled himself to the Netherlands blamed Jews for his and Germany’s downfall (although he reformed when he witnessed the horrors of Nazism). Europeans have had a pathological tendency to blame Jews for everything and this has been lampooned with the humorous punch line ‘The Jews did it’ (as in ‘Global warming?... the Jews did it).

Hitler didn’t invent European xenophobia towards Jews, he (and the German generals who ensured his rise to the Chancellory) evoked it to realise an innate European desire to inflict great suffering on the Jewish people.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49439 At my desk.	Re: HITLER. WHY DID HE HATE THE JEWS.? Reply #71 - May 10^th, 2008 at 3:29pm Do you think it's true that Hitler is largely responsible for a lot of the anti-Jewish sentiment across the middle east?
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Re: HITLER. WHY DID HE HATE THE JEWS.?
Reply #72 - May 10^th, 2008 at 9:53pm

freediver wrote on May 10^th, 2008 at 3:29pm:

Do you think it's true that Hitler is largely responsible for a lot of the anti-Jewish sentiment across the middle east?

While there has always been an ongoing dialectic between Islam and Judaism it seems that Nazi Germany was largely responsible for anti-Jewish sentiment in the Middle East. I guess it’s a bit like what happened with Hindus and Muslims during Partition in India. Having lived side by side for hundreds of years, the peace is destroyed in a bloodbath on a biblical scale after British involvement in their affairs.

The strangest place that anti-semitism can be found is in Japan despite the fact that there is virtually no Jewish presence in the country.

It appears that the European anti-Jewish pathology has found a home even in an Asian monoculture.

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Re: HITLER. WHY DID HE HATE THE JEWS.?
Reply #73 - May 16^th, 2008 at 5:53pm

There are claims that Hitler's paternal grandfather was Jewish, with the name Frankenberger. His stepfather's name was Alois Hikler or Heidler.

As an aside, Hitler blamed Bolshevism in the Soviet Union on the Jews, and also cited the influence of the Jews on Wall Street. He used this to justify why they 'must be stopped'.

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Reply #74 - May 16^th, 2008 at 6:44pm

The hatred of jews goes way back.
We have seen 'Pogroms" against jews as far back as you want to look.

As soon as they took up the role of money lending, often with, what many thought should be called, usury rates of interest.

The stereotypical figure of a conniving duplicitous miser, has been one which the jewish people have had great trouble ridding themselves of, despite some of the greatest philanthropists and humanitarians ever, being jewish.

Or alternately, they may just have a knack for really pissing people off:) Grin

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